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[EN] sport he is very bothered when tiger
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[EN] also he is very vigilant that
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[EN] I also saw that you like each other
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[EN] astrology you like the full ones
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[EN] Dad very well but I know all that
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[EN] I use it like opal and at best I
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[EN] all these disciplines also have as it
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[EN] There is one thing that always strikes me
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[EN] little is that on the genre the
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[EN] progressive that with their call to
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[EN] always reconnect with your feminine side
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[EN] inside his film in sacred years are
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[EN] on energies it is something that
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[EN] female who was really grateful for the prize
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[EN] but it is the exercise of the women of the
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[EN] discipline is also still today
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[EN] it does stuff all this stuff there it's a
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[EN] moment I imagine we will make a donation
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[EN] feminist appropriation of all these
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[EN] I like to draw the ming by
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[EN] example but it's with the viking on
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[EN] People, we are not always happy
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[EN] no we are not always comfortable mans
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[EN] should be able to write at some point
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[EN] the book of transformations in a way
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[EN] which educates especially contemporary what
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[EN] It's the same on tarot cards
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[EN] would at some point be able to
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[EN] less strict on at least fixed on the
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[EN] like what you want to transform like
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[EN] that when you pull the state to the Pacini
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[EN] designed on the tarots I never use
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[EN] demos as feminine and masculine
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[EN] I can't tell anyone
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[EN] reconciling with your masculine side doesn't
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[EN] will not come that I do à la carte but
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[EN] when I look at the hard cards well
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[EN] that there are men and women is
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[EN] a person to moan origin what
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[EN] devil but otherwise is also one but
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[EN] otherwise I see that it lacks a little
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[EN] salt which will therefore run the ball to
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[EN] resort I saw on the internet to Georges
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[EN] thurston of a small toulouse there is a
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[EN] queer feminist who works very well
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[EN] on the cartels the mixtures
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[EN] she works very well that it will come
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[EN] to give me we will have our game we will have it
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[EN] the third character I would like
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[EN] that we are talking about is that of Patrice that we are talking about
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[EN] mentioned in the first episode
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[EN] Patrice is therefore a very violent guy
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[EN] violent
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[EN] he is a father who adores his children
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[EN] says it's not the apple of his eye
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[EN] eyes but it's the seasonal marrow so
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[EN] it is also a great example of
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[EN] even except that at the same time past what
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[EN] says yes in his case that's what he tells us
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[EN] said but after in the parties we
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[EN] meals are either a surplus came it is
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[EN] true, we can't, however, what we
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[EN] knows right away it lasts for twenty
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[EN] pages is that he is a violent guy
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[EN] with the mother of his children who
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[EN] beaten up and he beats her up and who
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[EN] is the non-stop typing you write
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[EN] that he always raised his hand to his
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[EN] girlfriends all he can pull a chick a
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[EN] evening without hitting him but
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[EN] as soon as it becomes a story there is
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[EN] first slap and during this
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[EN] twenty pages described you in
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[EN] detail the star mechanism that we are in
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[EN] his head we see everything that is happening
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[EN] passes these incendiary monologues because
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[EN] that his girlfriend didn't buy what they
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[EN] wanted to eat and then after the
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[EN] cries and then apologizes he thinks
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[EN] really that he will stop but in fact
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[EN] they're starting again what he beat her up
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[EN] over and over again and then I wonder
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[EN] we have already produced a reader
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[EN] funny fact one to read for twenty
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[EN] pages this interior monologue because in
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[EN] in fact in the end we feel sorry for him we
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[EN] is in full empathy in fact with this
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[EN] super violent guy and I was wondering
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[EN] how did you actually do for
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[EN] come closer to this to look at this in
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[EN] face to face to know what it looked like
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[EN] actually a violent guy from the inside
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[EN] because there are violent guys
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[EN] enormously there are 225 thousand women every
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[EN] year who are victims of violence
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[EN] conjugal in France to say that there is at
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[EN] minus 225 a guy who hits them
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[EN] so it is very common, very widespread
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[EN] and at the same time we have never heard
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[EN] finally I have no memory of being
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[EN] a writer or a text that does everything to me
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[EN] to arrive at the cypress what of what
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[EN] it's actually inside the DRC
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[EN] It's not clear how you did it already
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[EN] because I have friends that his friend
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[EN] violent
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[EN] some followed them others the outcome
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[EN] very late because sometimes you can
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[EN] to be very close to someone you
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[EN] understands very late what he is in his
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[EN] private life really and others I them
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[EN] am fast for other reasons and
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[EN] some of them are really
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[EN] close
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[EN] so when it's someone you
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[EN] know very very well it's not the same
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[EN] it's not a thing because you're looking
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[EN] in any case to understand what can happen
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[EN] pass between the person you know
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[EN] the person he is going to pray that you
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[EN] you also realize when you know
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[EN] violent people who have conscience
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[EN] being violent is super complicated
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[EN] changed I guess when you are
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[EN] pedophiles must be a bit the same
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[EN] thing to say that there are things too
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[EN] when it is your character of peace too
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[EN] something you understand when you
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[EN] know the guys who are violent and who are
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[EN] always victims in their heads at
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[EN] moment they are giving a slap they are
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[EN] devices psychopaths and that that
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[EN] exists is not about psychopathic friends
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[EN] at this level what but people that
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[EN] me and who I was able to speak to they have
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[EN] the impression that he had an affront
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[EN] fact that it is so serious that they are
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[EN] no need to type what it is think
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[EN] not that it is at the level of
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[EN] the intelligence that it is happening but that
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[EN] it is triggered and who are these municipalities
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[EN] defense in their heads when they
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[EN] defend from something having done
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[EN] that the aggressor is still you
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[EN] it's you who types so it's a
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[EN] opponent and the second thing that makes
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[EN] I think I know people who
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[IN] this point is that I am not
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[EN] very strong verbal violence
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[EN] besides you don't have the languages but I
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[EN] can get into violence no
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[EN] insult but of crisis of races such
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[EN] that even if this insult to the pad way
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[EN] It's like I'm tearing you down and
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[EN] suddenly it's like I'm someone
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[EN] violent
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[EN] even if I don't know well with blows
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[EN] but at the moment it's going better
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[EN] it was to be specified but not in
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[EN] several stories I know it is
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[EN] my attitude is unbearable because
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[EN] it's too much pain and even if it is
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[EN] of pain what it does to the other
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[EN] it's like if you tobacco it's when
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[EN] even if it's not a breakage nothing
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[EN] hit no one but so much pain
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[EN] kills words neither the other and suddenly I
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[EN] knows what it's like in relation to guys
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[EN] violent when you react she goes
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[EN] faster than in so much intelligence you
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[EN] don't know how to change it you don't want to
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[EN] for example your Wednesday distress
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[EN] morning because you know that the person
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[EN] in front of a little more the distress of the
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[EN] Monday morning and Wednesday morning of Thursday
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[EN] evening of
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[EN] but you turn it on anyway
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[EN] and you know that it's destructive and so
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[EN] So it's Patrice who is both
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[EN] people who were very close to me
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[EN] and in the end it's me in some
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[EN] aspects of my anger I tell you my
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[EN] anger she does not exercise at all that does not
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[EN] shouldn't be seconds but you see it
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[EN] someone in the context of a report
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[EN] friendly to lovers but my violence I
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[EN] know that she is she is much more
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[EN] stronger than I can control and
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[EN] tell me today because I believe
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[EN] that with age you get tired so that
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[EN] down so there you can control yourself
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[EN] better but when we talk about the stuff of
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[EN] Angry is so much you have no tools
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[EN] to control it for me it's like
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[EN] that's what the Vicois is and that's how it is
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[EN] I visualize it and then in people
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[EN] that I know who are violent for
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[IN] me the ability to recognize that you
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[EN] make the decisive ones because from the moment when
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[EN] maybe you found a solution
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[EN] for Laos is unbearable it is
506
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[EN] guys you know are violent
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p.m.
[EN] that you will never be able to speak with them this
508
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[EN] which is very common they will stay
509
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[EN] friend with that not what you can
510
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[EN] no longer be with someone you
511
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[EN] can't talk about something so
512
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[EN] huge and you see that you have someone in
513
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[EN] face that will die rather than talk about it
514
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[EN] with you but you can't not
515
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[EN] speak
516
00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,000
[EN] so that that but on the other hand yes to be
517
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[EN] frankly, I knew how to remain good friends
518
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[EN] close with people I know that
519
00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,000
[EN] our traces of violence but with
520
00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,000
[EN] it was voice struggling like Patrice
521
00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,000
[EN] eyes because Patrice they don't arrive
522
00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,000
[EN] not to improve either, beautiful galley
523
00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000
[EN] a little conscious he goes to these of
524
00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,000
[EN] group ii is that there is little very little
525
00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,000
[EN] to be thrown pedophiles it must
526
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[EN] being the same is a violent guy where you
527
00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,000
[EN] goes the quantity in value he finally has
528
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[EN] use pedophiles or you have because
529
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[EN] that in some lessons of spaces
530
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[EN] in which you can expose what is
531
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p.m.
[EN] your mechanisms and hope that someone
532
00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,000
[EN] will be learning to outsmart him
533
00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000
[EN] Charles work or do you have to
534
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[EN] to work on that the prison is not going to TV
535
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[EN] It's certainly not in prison that you
536
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p.m.
[EN] will be less violent or a rapist or
537
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[EN] less pedophiles who are the shrinks who
538
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[EN] are able to accompany you I am
539
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[EN] not sure if it's the ones for now
540
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[EN] talents that she is
541
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[EN] psychoanalysis I'm not sure that the
542
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[EN] guys are rare but for that because
543
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[EN] it's pure laziness as if that
544
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[EN] didn't exist or you built groups
545
00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,000
[EN] of speech there goes group therapies
546
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[EN] and he says it's some of
547
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[EN] Aromatic speaking groups months
548
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[EN] balls in the lettuce he hates these
549
00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:06,000
[EN] support groups
550
00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,000
[EN] he says that there are only guys who
551
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[EN] seek excuses and
552
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[EN] explanations they make like they are
553
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[EN] relieved to be able to express their
554
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[EN] emotions etc but that in fact the only one
555
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[EN] moment when these scrapers cry with
556
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[EN] sincerity is by feeling sorry for their
557
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[EN] own fate and take risks
558
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[EN] group therapy a yes is already in
559
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[EN] violence that people violence like the
560
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[EN] alcoholics way on everything while
561
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[EN] complain
562
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[EN] that's where there are too many people who
563
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[EN] do not arrive at what we know less
564
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[EN] first if I tell you about my anger I
565
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[EN] followed crying all the time
566
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[EN] travel and Kenya undeniable what
567
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[EN] would be what you do as an alcoholic
568
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[EN] it's the same as people
569
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[EN] drugged it's true talent t-shirts
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p.m.
[EN] profiles we are hot but
571
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[EN] nevertheless we must improve and
572
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[EN] this with the speaking groups like
573
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p.m.
[EN] often the guys who are free to
574
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[EN] speech are obliged by injunction or
575
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[EN] where will not pass by blackmail but
576
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[EN] because they are hired during the summer
577
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[EN] are they not really helping them
578
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[EN] speaking is really complicated
579
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[EN] trash but you have to start
580
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[EN] over there if you want eventually if
581
00:19:04,000 --> 00:07:05,000
[EN] we had something happened there
582
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p.m.
[EN] maybe you won't succeed changed into
583
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[EN] passing by but you won't be able to
584
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[EN] changed without going through their meaning therefore
585
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[EN] without recognizing his own
586
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[EN] responsibility and that you can change
587
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[EN] something in strategies
588
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[EN] of interaction between behavior and in
589
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[EN] your character
590
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[EN] you can but but but but anger
591
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[EN] these intrusions in particular I
592
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[EN] I know this from experience and it's fine
593
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[EN] so fast
594
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[EN] it's like you have it's not a
595
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[EN] excuse me but I know it's true that
596
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[EN] that anger is the principle of the
597
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[EN] anger is that you are already angry
598
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[EN] before you thought you had
599
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p.m.
[EN] maybe it makes you angry it's it's more
600
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[EN] faster than you it exceeds and it must not
601
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p.m.
[EN] not to exceed finally today must
602
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[EN] find out how but we must act
603
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[EN] very far upstream I have the impression
604
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[EN] It's super complicated what you need
605
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[EN] go back to go back to what these forms
606
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[EN] hears well before the time when dad at
607
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p.m.
[EN] time level not at the level of the
608
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[IN] memory but
609
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[EN] in your behavior you have to go back to
610
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p.m.
[EN] finding what is it is super annoying in
611
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[EN] more because it is not interesting to
612
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[EN] think all I want to say is
613
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[EN] not interesting to think about yourself
614
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[EN] in this way and at the same time if you
615
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[EN] don't do it you can't change a time
616
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p.m.
[EN] Patrice doesn't really want to change
617
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[EN] but Patrice is not only
618
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[EN] that is also a character because
619
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[EN] what really struck me is practice
620
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p.m.
[EN] we met quite a few people and speaking
621
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[EN] no majority nothing but still
622
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p.m.
[EN] quite a few people from the far left who
623
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[EN] were violent people from the start who
624
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[EN] was not at all known for that and who
625
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[EN] was not at all ready to do it
626
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[EN] recognize and that interests me
627
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[EN] really what you can be
628
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[EN] politically to the ultra-left to have this
629
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[EN] behavior that's ok because ok it's your
630
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[EN] shit you are like that but don't
631
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[EN] recognize and not understand that there
632
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[EN] what are you doing there
633
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[EN] Politics is super interesting to me
634
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,000
[EN] because if you at home your fortune
635
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000
[EN] like that what is it how do you know
636
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[EN] in relation to your political speech
637
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[EN] global to calm down now at what
638
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p.m.
[EN] moment but you can't do both
639
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000
[EN] It can happen to both but not if you
640
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[EN] you know it's not about reconciling the two
641
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p.m.
[EN] in your in your conscience in your
642
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[EN] speech what it was not capable of
643
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[EN] take the floor here we are again on
644
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[EN] with a big problem of violence but
645
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,000
[EN] and that interests me, it's one of the points
646
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[EN] that towards our goal is that it turns
647
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,000
[EN] a lot about what is it
648
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[EN] radical left and in Kehl the world has
649
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[EN] lost the file temporarily maybe
650
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,000
[EN] but still there really had points
651
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,000
[EN] lost worldwide and in particular on these
652
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,000
[EN] stuff inside the ultra-left how
653
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000
[EN] were we able to get to this point?
654
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,000
[EN] aside from gender issues during
655
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[EN] so long at this point not to
656
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,000
[EN] questioning our own practices
657
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,000
[EN] domestic for so long but we
658
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,000
[EN] was also said that psychology
659
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,000
[EN] individual and it's a little thing
660
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,000
[EN] bourgeois that it was not what by
661
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000
[EN] It's recent that it didn't make sense
662
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,000
[EN] really political while what we
663
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,000
[EN] learned feminism is that in
664
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,000
[EN] all policies in private tired
665
00:21:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000
[EN] what is intimate is also political
666
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p.m.
[EN] and also I think that on that so
667
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[EN] as we were educated for the weight of
668
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[EN] education as people of
669
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,000
[EN] women, that's what we're used to
670
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,000
[EN] all the time working on us
671
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,000
[EN] same all the time especially is always
672
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000
[EN] healthy and suddenly but that's the good side
673
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,000
[EN] it's that we are actually used to it
674
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000
[EN] this habit of sarko we evolve we
675
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000
[EN] change and by will one can change
676
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,000
[EN] because things may not be all
677
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,000
[EN] change
678
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,000
[EN] the auto mark the will is not enough
679
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,000
[EN] but we can transform a lot and
680
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,000
[EN] I think that's one of the things that
681
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,000
[EN] In fact, it seems to me that women
682
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000
[EN] payments better than men to
683
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000
[EN] because of this idea of all the time
684
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,000
[EN] questions wanting to evolve with
685
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,000
[EN] who was talking about it, finally, it's still
686
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000
[EN] but by the nature of the pylons it is
687
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,000
[EN] also being able to admit I'm kidding is
688
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,000
[EN] something as me it's very
689
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,000
[EN] easy to do to say ok I marked I
690
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,000
[EN] kidding it's not something that it isn't
691
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,000
[EN] not very easy to do but it is
692
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,000
[EN] much easier to do what we have
693
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000
[EN] we are not the type to rld is
694
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000
[EN] precisely of a heart all the time of
695
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,000
[EN] dominants so say I have a problem
696
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,000
[EN] we need a solution' we seem to think
697
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,000
[EN] less difficult than for one of
698
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,000
[EN] what does Patrice recognize that
699
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,000
[EN] it's still a problem towards that
700
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,000
[EN] woman leaves him and quietly it's there
701
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,000
[EN] that it is not in the meantime what it is not
702
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,000
[EN] not very clear
703
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,000
[EN] because it is not very realistic
704
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,000
[EN] as a male character he could
705
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000
[EN] maybe a trans at half in the
706
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,000
[EN] male character but you want
707
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000
[EN] to do it because if he recognizes him
708
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,000
[EN] no, on the other hand it becomes too complicated
709
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,000
[EN] for me speak therefore I spoke it is necessary
710
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,000
[EN] that Vernon was simpler but
711
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,000
[EN] It's not very realistic in general
712
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,000
[EN] mazures renwez the past like the
713
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,000
[EN] rapists I think that often they have
714
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,000
[EN] still tend to change words
715
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,000
[EN] yes to say I got angry she told me
716
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000
[EN] drunk game stage and fake shy
717
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000
[EN] she is crazy she is violent
718
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000
[EN] she is dangerous when I see the
719
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,000
[EN] guys still step on their fashion /
720
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,000
[EN] Morocco nine times out of ten he finds
721
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,000
[EN] that she is violent
722
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000
[EN] they are afraid to sleep from the noise of
723
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000
[EN] lettuce at night ends and in general there is
724
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,000
[EN] a real turnaround of the situation
725
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000
[EN] Lensoise
726
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,000
[EN] yes but at the same time there is also a
727
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,000
[EN] something we hear a lot and it's a
728
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,000
[EN] it makes me think a little about what
729
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,000
[EN] you were saying there about verbal violence
730
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000
[EN] and psychological that turns and I know
731
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000
[EN] not sure what to say to this kind of speech
732
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,000
[EN] but when I talk about violence
733
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000
[EN] conjugal
734
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,000
[EN] the argument I get given all the time
735
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000
[EN] it's ah yes but women too
736
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000
[EN] are violent it's just that she has you
737
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,000
[EN] not but they are violent with
738
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,000
[EN] words so in the end it does the same thing
739
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,000
[EN] and so in fact it is equivalent but
740
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,000
[EN] it's not true when it's not true
741
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,000
[EN] we don't know when you're alive when
742
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,000
[EN] you are not alive there is a real
743
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,000
[EN] difference
744
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,000
[EN] all three are dead or alive there is no
745
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,000
[EN] there is no difference between the two so
746
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,000
[EN] if you are you have been insulted was still
747
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,000
[EN] alive is still not at all
748
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000
[EN] same as dead
749
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,000
[EN] these requests
750
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,000
[EN] after that it's true anyway when we
751
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000
[EN] we are here too, yes
752
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,000
[EN] francs is negative of the batches
753
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,000
[EN] manipulative awarding people
754
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:06,000
[EN] current as long as there are mavs cdc of a
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[EN] mayor of chemistry or even chicks who
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[EN] are destructive quite obviously there
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[EN] above it is but empty but
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[EN] actually no then we have a lot
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[EN] less used to saying to oneself, hey, I
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[EN] I'll put you in a corner I'll put you
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[EN] beat your ass until you calm down
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[EN] pride at sea but who make it late it is
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[EN] much rarer than the mini skirt
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[EN] was your mouth at würth spoke to some
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[EN] nine in bars is rarer it is
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[EN] everything and it's not physical because
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[EN] that if we let you watch with
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[EN] little biker we are doing very well
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[EN] tap on it too
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[EN] so yes it is a cultural permission
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[EN] it's a but also way patrice he says
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[EN] that he does not want to give up his
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[EN] violence because in fact it is true that
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[EN] what will he actually have left if he
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[EN] has more of its violence than in fact there are
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[EN] situations where people are well
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[EN] glad that he is violent only when he
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[EN] There's a guy who's training in R&D in the subway
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[EN] and that he will make sure that it happens
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[EN] respect is low people are very
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[EN] actually happy that they don't intervene
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[EN] yeah the cedr neither our reflections
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[EN] on violence in general because
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[EN] it's true that it's really it's
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[EN]valuing everyone respects the
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[EN] violence not the Arabic will not be there
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[EN] domestic violence but violence in
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[EN] everyone respects him on the street, there is no
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[EN] that's all that makes us not take
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[EN] seriously if the yellow vests don't break
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[EN] everything is not skimped yellow we them
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[EN] don't listen to what, finally you really have to
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[EN] otherwise it's Catalans, Catalans
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[EN] Tong Sang make their fight he is
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[EN] pacifist you there was no one and of the
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[EN] big mess, nobody cares
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[EN] so it's super complicated and also I
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[EN] I know it while I can do it
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[EN] spectacular anger people
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[EN] love it huh it works really well and
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[EN] if you throw a real big tantrum but
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[EN] there is a good chance that you
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[EN] get what you want and more
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[EN] people around you I use them
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[EN] stuff
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[EN] finally I noticed it from the doctor
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[EN] since I was a child it's this title
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[EN] is valued good for a girl it is a
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[EN] a bit cheap but still
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[EN] enhance the date site to collar
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[EN] spectacular leap it will go over
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[EN] of your kind because it is said m
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[EN] there is a respect for the strength you are
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[EN] on me I have the impression that when we
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[EN] is a woman and we get angry
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[EN] we are just hysterical that it is useful for
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[EN] nothing, we are not listened to more in fact
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[EN] It depends on your level of anger if you
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[EN] have a question before a show there
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[EN] something that is like enjoyable
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[EN] for waters
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[EN] I know from experience not for everyone
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[EN] world ten years ago still past g
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[EN] it is very well received and but pasqua
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[EN] we did what we prefer, force
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[EN] it's my language I'm not saying it's good
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[EN] but there is a real respect for strength
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[EN] and ultra brutality let us all reflect
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[EN] The winners are the most brutal in
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[EN] all the countries that were winners all
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[EN] what we determined was like this
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[EN] who is the most murderous who has the
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[EN] more violent who is the most brutal
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[EN] all all all all is determined as
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[EN] that in the war but also in the
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[EN] market at the most brutal therefore brutality
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[EN] and indeed it is something that
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[EN] Patrice asks this is a question
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[EN] politics
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[EN] how do we even do it is a
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[EN] real question like that it's exactly
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[EN] like I crack and the thing I
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[EN] will say right away but how is it
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[EN] that we do what we cannot oppose
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[EN] to the system by force because it is
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[EN] their language
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[EN] but how do we do it for a
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[EN] passion to oppose it at 30 by the
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[EN] strong and it is made by life entirely
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[EN] given that everything will be fine to find
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[EN] because in any case the force is that
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[EN] it's their language for every time
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[EN] when he speaks he will speak in rendering
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[EN] on their territory in their language and
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[EN] I'm not talking about masculine language here.
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[EN] but of the language of the system in which
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[EN] we are and if we think that it is not
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[EN] we just don't see how to change it
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[EN] other than by violence if we see
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[EN] not either how what we could
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[EN] to be successful through violence as long as
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[EN] it's with his kidneys and someone
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[EN] someone tracked down the thing to do
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[EN] find some where some
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[EN] young people found me neither two
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[EN] in the third episode of this great
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[EN] Interview with Virginie Despentes
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[EN] it will be about cinema and more
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[EN] precisely what feminism
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[EN] changes in our relationship with cinema
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[EN] from a feminist point of view almost
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[EN] cinema we can throw everything in the trash
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[EN] and also literature you can't
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[EN] having a webdoc are put in its hold
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[EN] already has the switch will never recognize
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[EN] in France to an intelligent woman this
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[EN] that we can recognize in Bolbec and
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[EN] two because indeed if she
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[EN] arrives with such a difficult physique
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[EN] that southwest as soon as we speak of that
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[EN] saints
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