34C3 - “Nabovarme” opensource heating infrastructure in Christiania
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0:16 - 0:20Herald: Welcome everybody to our next
talk “Nabovarme open source heating -
0:20 - 0:24infrastructure in Christiania”. So I would
like to know who of you has already been -
0:24 - 0:29to Christiania, that little free state
in Copenhagen? -
0:29 - 0:33That looks like maybe 60%
or something like that. -
0:33 - 0:38Now, I have good or bad news for you,
depending on how you see it. -
0:38 - 0:43If you mainly associate Christiania with
weed, there will be no mention of weed -
0:43 - 0:48in this talk, whatsoever, after my
introduction, so tone down the expectations. -
0:48 - 0:52But we will have a very interesting talk
about neighborhood heating, -
0:52 - 0:57that’s what Nabovarme means,
I just learned it today. laughs -
0:57 - 1:00So I would like to introduce our speakers,
but they will introduce themselves -
1:00 - 1:03in a moment, too. We have
Emmerik, Johannes and Kristoffer. -
1:03 - 1:06And I would like you to give them
a warm round of applause! -
1:06 - 1:12applause
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1:12 - 1:16Emmerik: Okay. Thank you very much
for coming here today and -
1:16 - 1:20listening to us. I’m Emmerik.
Kristoffer: I’m Kristoffer. -
1:20 - 1:23Johannes: And I’m Johannes.
Emmerik: And I will do the talking; -
1:23 - 1:28I was elected to do the talking
by these good guys, and -
1:28 - 1:33Kristoffer and Johannes will answer
questions afterwards and I ask you, please -
1:33 - 1:37ask a lot of questions, because I think
we have a little extra spare time. -
1:37 - 1:43Thank you!
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1:43 - 1:50So what is Nabovarme? It’s actually
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1:50 - 1:56a distributed central heating
system organization thing. -
1:56 - 2:01And Nabovarme is a word
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2:01 - 2:07for community heating. We have
several heating systems developed -
2:07 - 2:13by the 14 local areas in Christiania.
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2:13 - 2:18The basic of Christiania heating
has been pellets -
2:18 - 2:25for the last 5 or 10 years. Pellets is
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2:25 - 2:30these small things that you saw in the
beginning, that you had in the hands, -
2:30 - 2:36let’s go back to this, see the pellets,
wooden pellets that you burn. -
2:36 - 2:41We have a lot of common pellet
heating systems inside Christiania, -
2:41 - 2:46those are the red dots, the large
red dots. And the small orange dots -
2:46 - 2:53is local heaters in just one family.
And we have lots more -
2:53 - 2:57small orange systems than you have
seen here, but we didn’t have time -
2:57 - 3:03to put them in.
The history of heaters. -
3:03 - 3:08We tried to find some good pictures
of the original Christiania -
3:08 - 3:14oil barrel stove. But we couldn’t.
It’s difficult, -
3:14 - 3:20they’re all gone. They burned through
back in the ’70s. So all we have -
3:20 - 3:25are these on the left,
a very common old stove -
3:25 - 3:30from the ’80s. Then we have
of course the oil heating system, -
3:30 - 3:36number 2 from left, which was
common in the ’90s, and still is common -
3:36 - 3:42somewhere in Christiania. Then
we have the Bekkasin oven, which is -
3:42 - 3:48a popular oven in Denmark
for wood, for logs, and -
3:48 - 3:53you see to the right a typical
Christiania installation, which is -
3:53 - 3:59just a tube going through the side
of the building, and, -
3:59 - 4:05you know, burning pellets inside and
smoke outside. Not very modern, -
4:05 - 4:14not very efficient, and coming to its end.
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4:14 - 4:20What we have done is we have
taken some very old meters -
4:20 - 4:26when we installed… those meters,
when we installed some surveillance -
4:26 - 4:31and monitoring on the pellet systems
that we have. -
4:31 - 4:36Now we’re in the phase of combining
the users that had these oil heaters, -
4:36 - 4:42the wood stoves, the small pellet heaters
into larger systems that perform better. -
4:42 - 4:47And the central role for improvement is
logging the heat usage, and finding ways -
4:47 - 4:54of making everyone pay the necessary
amount and pay it in time. -
4:54 - 5:01The logging system consists
of these Multical 602, -
5:01 - 5:07that was first. They were very old
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5:07 - 5:12when we found them second hand, and
then we have improved them with the -
5:12 - 5:18switch-mode power supply to the right,
in the right picture, and -
5:18 - 5:25with a WiFi gadget in connection,
so making it into a smart meter. -
5:25 - 5:31The billing and the heating on/off is
done through our custom made database. -
5:31 - 5:38So remote logging makes maintenance much
easier and can over time improve the efficiency -
5:38 - 5:44of the heating system. That can help the
users being more interested in taking part -
5:44 - 5:50of the heating consumption problems
which is one of our time’s main -
5:50 - 5:58global warming issues, you know.
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5:58 - 6:04Well, our Nabovarme organizations
are organized into the communities. -
6:04 - 6:09And in our most modern system every
user is using our newly developed -
6:09 - 6:15prepaid consumption. You know,
before people would go down and buy -
6:15 - 6:21some logs of wood. And then would go home
and burn them. When the burning ended -
6:21 - 6:26they were cold. They felt the cool and
they went back, buy more logs, and -
6:26 - 6:32heating it, again. So first you buy, then
you have the heat. The same model goes -
6:32 - 6:39into our prepaid consumption: first you
pay for the heat and then you consumpt. -
6:39 - 6:46And then when your use is over the valve
turns off. That is a very simple model -
6:46 - 6:52and it means that there is no deficit
nowhere. That means organizing -
6:52 - 6:57the receiving money in advance for heat
and inserting the equivalent amount -
6:57 - 7:03of energy into the system database. When
the user has consumed what he’s paid for -
7:03 - 7:11the module automatically turns off
the valve to the user. -
7:11 - 7:18The thing is that Christiania was founded
as on top of an old military base -
7:18 - 7:23which is actually coming back to 1680s,
-
7:23 - 7:29when the city of Copenhagen was defending
itself against the Swedes, the German -
7:29 - 7:36and the English. That data base
was left in the 1960s, -
7:36 - 7:42and was just empty as you
see it on this old photo. -
7:42 - 7:47In 2011 the government of Denmark
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7:47 - 7:53won a lawsuit against Christiania.
That means that the free town was forced -
7:53 - 7:59to follow the regulations of Denmark.
At the same time Christiania was declared -
7:59 - 8:05legal, and that resulted in that
the local people in Christiania -
8:05 - 8:10wanted to improve their
house standards much more -
8:10 - 8:15than was used to before. So they put in
investments in our infrastructure -
8:15 - 8:21and in our houses on a longer
time horizon; now we invest up to -
8:21 - 8:2630 years in advance, and that’s the whole
difference than before, when it was just -
8:26 - 8:32for 1 or 2 years people would
climb up something. -
8:32 - 8:41The whole infrastructure
is changing in these years. -
8:41 - 8:46Christiania is quite large.
It’s 46 years old, -
8:46 - 8:52and it has almost 1.000 inhabitants.
Actually the 900 that you see here -
8:52 - 8:58are the inhabitants that we know of.
But there are many people that just live -
8:58 - 9:04there, without having a place to stay.
That means that they change rooms, -
9:04 - 9:09they sleep on sofas, they kind of
roam around within the community. -
9:09 - 9:15So there may well be a thousand, I don’t
know. There are at least 265 houses -
9:15 - 9:22and 24 hectares of land.
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9:22 - 9:28There is a heating construction.
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9:28 - 9:32It’s a very easy kind of.
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9:32 - 9:36You burn pellets. That’s it.
But when you extend this -
9:36 - 9:42to larger systems it can be quite complex.
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9:42 - 9:47The pellet burners are difficult to keep
in steady production. But they’re cheap -
9:47 - 9:52and can be handled by the local users.
Special effort has been done -
9:52 - 9:57to ensure that the heating system
keeps running smoothly all the time by -
9:57 - 10:04constantly improving the heaters and the
steering units, that’s the left picture. -
10:04 - 10:08You see: there are some yellow
add-ons on top and bottom -
10:08 - 10:16and those are added-on to an existing
heating system that we have bought. -
10:16 - 10:21We have added air pressure to ensure that
the ashes are blown away from the heaters’ -
10:21 - 10:25surface at regular intervals.
And that you can see on the left picture -
10:25 - 10:32on the blue tubes. And we’re planning to
add scrubbers to clean the flue gas. -
10:32 - 10:38That means you have…
when the smoke comes out of the chimney -
10:38 - 10:43you have a problem with pollution, and we
want to take the pollution out of the gas. -
10:43 - 10:49And this is yet to come but we’re
in the process of doing that as well. -
10:49 - 10:53We’re now engaged in improving the
logging by the use of the Kamstrup meters -
10:53 - 10:58you see in the center top picture
and use Raspberry Pi’s as well -
10:58 - 11:03to monitor the steering units.
That’s the bottom picture. -
11:03 - 11:08That’s coming out of a Raspberry
Pi. We are fortunate to have -
11:08 - 11:14several LANs running inside
Christiania. Those we can use -
11:14 - 11:19for propagating the samples and monitor
them, that’s the right picture here. -
11:19 - 11:27So you see all these green points
are actually WiFi spots. -
11:27 - 11:32A typical Nabovarme installation consists
of a heating production center, -
11:32 - 11:37some heating consumers, some WiFi
infrastructure and a web portal used -
11:37 - 11:44for plotting consumption and accounting.
Well, the back… -
11:44 - 11:49when we started off the Kamstrup
solution meters, they were -
11:49 - 11:55not very smart, they could
actually take care -
11:55 - 12:00of the metering of consumers
but we in the city lack the ability -
12:00 - 12:05to gather these samples for later
accounting. So the Kamstrup company -
12:05 - 12:10had some solutions for smart metering
which supports multiple protocols: -
12:10 - 12:17we have the Wireless M-Bus, the Zigbee
and many more protocols, -
12:17 - 12:23but there was no WiFi.
That meant to us that investing -
12:23 - 12:29in a new infrastructure for just metering
was very costly and unnecessary. -
12:29 - 12:34Their solutions required a new
infrastructure for propagation and -
12:34 - 12:39data gathering and the need for
certified electricians to install it. -
12:39 - 12:44The Kamstrup solutions also required a
subscription plan in order to gain access -
12:44 - 12:51to our own data and we
did not like that. So, -
12:51 - 12:58nowadays, many people in Christiania
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12:58 - 13:03have their own WiFi hotspots. Christiania
users are willing to open theirs -
13:03 - 13:07to the heating meters and that is
a way to reduce the costs of having -
13:07 - 13:12to manually read the meter, and
it’s a way to get through the WiFi -
13:12 - 13:17up to our servers.
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13:17 - 13:23When researching the existing open source
options from the Kamstrup to create -
13:23 - 13:28a meter logger we ran across the ESP8266.
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13:28 - 13:33That’s a microcontroller and when it first
came out it was small and cost effective -
13:33 - 13:40enough to be inserted into the meters
and it had the WiFi capabilities -
13:40 - 13:44to transmit the samples
over the existing infrastructure, -
13:44 - 13:49that means all the WiFis
that you saw, the green points. -
13:49 - 13:55Later, thanks to martin-ger’s ESP library
we were able to extend the coverage -
13:55 - 14:01to places that lacked their own hot spots.
That means that we could hop in… -
14:01 - 14:09that our meter solution could be like an
extra hot spot and transmit all the data -
14:09 - 14:18through some of the heaters to the
next hot spot, and on to the servers. -
14:18 - 14:25We created a daughter board
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14:25 - 14:31to be inserted in the Kamstrup meters
consisting of the ESP8266 -
14:31 - 14:36with its flash and WiFi capabilities,
some triacs for controlling -
14:36 - 14:43the external valve, you know, the valve
that can turn off and on for the consumers -
14:43 - 14:50and a separate power supply unit to power
everything. And this picture that you see -
14:50 - 14:56here is put into the living space of
the people that are attached to the -
14:56 - 15:06Nabovarme system.
So everyone has one like this. -
15:06 - 15:12We had a problem. Because Kamstrup
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15:12 - 15:19had an open source protocol, KMP, but
it was very difficult to read it and to -
15:19 - 15:25read about it. It didn’t kind of work out,
and we had to spend a few months to -
15:25 - 15:30reverse-engineer a range of their devices
and they are now supported in our meter -
15:30 - 15:36logger firmware. And
the meter logger firmware -
15:36 - 15:41takes care of the net translations
for extending the WiFi, -
15:41 - 15:45and through a grace period
during boot you’re able to set up -
15:45 - 15:51a target access point to connect to.
That means that -
15:51 - 15:57when you first set it up you find the WiFi
spots around, and you find the best one, -
15:57 - 16:03and you log it into that one.
If you later need to change that -
16:03 - 16:07you pass along with your own telephone
a special code, and then you can change -
16:07 - 16:12that point again. That’s
a grace period, that’s just -
16:12 - 16:17a minute or two, and that’s it.
So after that grace period it goes over -
16:17 - 16:24to sample mode. The scheduler
asks the meter for a sample -
16:24 - 16:31every minute. And the KMP
– the Kamstrup – requests -
16:31 - 16:37talks to the meter over serial, and
the KMP receives the data and does -
16:37 - 16:42checksum before all
floating it to the MQTT. -
16:42 - 16:49The MQTT dispatcher takes care of
transmitting the sample to the server. -
16:49 - 16:54And then other part of the firmware closes
the hot water valve if the last sample -
16:54 - 17:00resolves in excessive consumption based on
the readings from the user’s account. -
17:00 - 17:07So this is how we can actually turn off
the user, or actually the thing does it -
17:07 - 17:13automatically. If there’s no more
money on that account -
17:13 - 17:18it automatically switches off. Like when
you go down and buy the log and put it -
17:18 - 17:25into your existing old heater
it burns down. It’s cold. -
17:25 - 17:30Same system. And that transparency
makes it easy for people -
17:30 - 17:37to understand some of the…
Well, that’s it. -
17:37 - 17:43Well.
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17:43 - 17:48From the client side you have
the overview of a client. This is -
17:48 - 17:54what the client sees of the production
and the use of Nabovarme. -
17:54 - 18:00We have the propagation temperature
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18:00 - 18:05and you have the return temperature,
you have the temperature difference -
18:05 - 18:10and you have the flow
and you have the consumption. -
18:10 - 18:16These five graphs you can zoom in
and just have it at 1 or 2 minutes -
18:16 - 18:20or you can have it for a period like
you have from, here, 1st of January -
18:20 - 18:24to the 5th of March. But you can
also have it for 2 years, 3 years -
18:24 - 18:30or just 1 minute, 2 minutes.
So this is very easy for people -
18:30 - 18:36to see how is there a usage,
when and how much -
18:36 - 18:42do they actually spend.
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18:42 - 18:44Now the accounting system.
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18:44 - 18:49That’s one of the headaches for
everybody: how to get the money in. -
18:49 - 18:54We want to supply, we want to share
but we need some money for the pellets. -
18:54 - 19:00How do you do it? And first, of course,
you would just put it on a document -
19:00 - 19:05on your computer,
“my neighbor has given me five crowns” -
19:05 - 19:10– as we’d use in Denmark – or 10 Euros,
“this for the heating of the pellet -
19:10 - 19:15from that day to that day”. Ok. And
when you have a lot of documents -
19:15 - 19:21it makes it very difficult, of course.
So you would start with using Excel -
19:21 - 19:26spreadsheets or, you know, Opendocs
spreadsheets, or whatever, -
19:26 - 19:32you know. And in due time you find out
that’s complex too, it makes it difficult. -
19:32 - 19:37So, then some good guys started making
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19:37 - 19:42custom made applications. And this
is one of them, this is actually the -
19:42 - 19:47latest application called CA
(means Christiania, -
19:47 - 19:53FORBRUG means expenditure).
We’ve developed that -
19:53 - 19:57over time and this is for electricity,
this is a red one, -
19:57 - 20:03you see, and that means that it’s
electricity expenditure, and there is -
20:03 - 20:10every year one, usually the consumer,
but also maybe the area cashier -
20:10 - 20:15goes from house to house, takes the
number, and puts it into this accounting -
20:15 - 20:21system. So you see there, some of them
are from 2006, some are from 2015 -
20:21 - 20:28– one is from ’15 and two is from 2017.
This is the expenditure of electricity. -
20:28 - 20:34We want of course to do that
also for heat. -
20:34 - 20:39And this is maybe possible but we
need some more people to help us -
20:39 - 20:46doing that. So, all this require,
of course, individual consumption, -
20:46 - 20:51total consumption and production
expenses to make this all work. -
20:51 - 20:56And that is increasingly difficult to
handle. And, on top of that, users are -
20:56 - 21:02more demanding. They want to know “how
much do I have in our little bank”, or -
21:02 - 21:09“how much do I owe the little bank” or
“how can we actually balance things up”. -
21:09 - 21:14And these data are of course very precious
to us, and we do not want to share them -
21:14 - 21:19with large companies for anti-surveillance
reasons, and this is why we built up -
21:19 - 21:24this whole infrastructure, to keep the
knowledge inside and to gain total access -
21:24 - 21:29of it; but it’s a lot of work, I tell you.
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21:29 - 21:33The last thing is, we need your help!
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21:33 - 21:39We would love to get some
more help on how to improve -
21:39 - 21:44things in our systems, and how to
cooperate with making the systems -
21:44 - 21:49talk together. And we have,
on the left side of the stage, -
21:49 - 21:54we have ‘Stoffer’ here, he’s our
busfactor, you know? If somebody -
21:54 - 22:00from bus runs him down, the knowledge is
gone. What can we do, we need some more -
22:00 - 22:06people knowing what is going on. Our
society is so small that we do not know -
22:06 - 22:12what to do. If one person
disappears a lot of knowledge -
22:12 - 22:17disappears with him. So this is
a serious problem for us. And then -
22:17 - 22:22along, as well, is the demand for
the people that we are serving, -
22:22 - 22:28they want to know more and more
specific details on the consumption, -
22:28 - 22:34the production, the energy, the economy.
It’s very difficult. -
22:34 - 22:39On top of all these things we have installed
a lot of solar panels inside Christiania, -
22:39 - 22:45to stop using so much of electricity
that we buy, and getting down -
22:45 - 22:51on buying the pellets. So all these
different consumption models, -
22:51 - 22:56they coincide, and they need to
be balanced out, and we need -
22:56 - 23:02to monitor them, to see how much do we
actually gain, how much do we lose. -
23:02 - 23:08So please, if you have questions
– we have the problems -
23:08 - 23:14and you can apply if you want to come work
with us at the ‘Christiania Researcher in -
23:14 - 23:19Residence’ that is the house that we have
in Christiania, designed for people that -
23:19 - 23:25want to know about Christiania, are going to
read or do something, some active sessions -
23:25 - 23:30in Christiania. They can come and stay
with us for a month, or come back even, -
23:30 - 23:37and get some interaction with Christiania.
So, thank you for your time, -
23:37 - 23:44and I hope you have a lot of questions
that we will be glad to answer. Thank you. -
23:44 - 23:51applause
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23:51 - 23:55Herald: Thank you very much for the
presentation, Emmerik! So, as you have -
23:55 - 23:59heard, we have around 5 minutes for
questions, and you have heard, they are -
23:59 - 24:05in dire need of ideas, inspirations,
support and help. So -
24:05 - 24:08line up at the microphones if you have
questions. I will start with the internet -
24:08 - 24:13if there is a question from the internet.
Is that the case? -
24:13 - 24:15Signal Angel: No questions yet.
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24:15 - 24:18Herald: Alright, then we start
with microphone no. 6. -
24:18 - 24:21Mic 6: Have you given any…
Herald: Please, yeah, perfect. -
24:21 - 24:24Mic 6: Have you given any…
great talk by the way, thank you, -
24:24 - 24:29is there any facts for the distribution
of pellets to be more efficient within, -
24:29 - 24:33not just like the heating, and how does
the actual physical distribution of the -
24:33 - 24:37pellets work, and is there any
automation ideas around that? -
24:37 - 24:40Johannes: Right, …
Kristoffer: You got it? -
24:40 - 24:42Johannes: We don’t have any sound
right now… -
24:42 - 24:47Emmerik: I think we lack some sound
on Stoffer and on Johannes. -
24:47 - 24:52Here is Stoffer. Could you say hello?
Kristoffer: Yes, I’m trying to! Hello? -
24:52 - 24:58Herald: I think it’s on now!
Emmerik: It’s on, it just needs louder! -
24:58 - 25:01Johannes: Yes, so right now we have…
Emmerik: Could you have the question again? -
25:01 - 25:05Johannes: Yes, the question was if we are
using any automation for the pellet -
25:05 - 25:10systems and the distribution of them.
Right now we have huge silos at each -
25:10 - 25:14distribution center. So we kind of
just get a truck that comes in and, -
25:14 - 25:19with pressured air, it just blows all the
pellets into these giant silos. Usually -
25:19 - 25:25at these productions centers we then have
redundant heating production units, -
25:25 - 25:29so if one of them goes down we
can switch to the other one. -
25:29 - 25:34But when it comes to distribution
of costs then it is -
25:34 - 25:39still small isolated communities that
consume their own pellets systems, -
25:39 - 25:43so the budget of one small community
doesn’t go into the budget of another -
25:43 - 25:48community. I hope that was
answering the question. -
25:48 - 25:51Herald: Alright, microphone no. 1, please.
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25:51 - 25:56Mic 1: Hi, thanks for the talk, from me
as well. I was wondering if, like… -
25:56 - 26:01usually you say, first you do isolation
on the buildings and then -
26:01 - 26:06you renew the heating systems. Did you do
that, because I… like from the photos, -
26:06 - 26:11it seems like there’s a lot of old buildings,
and stuff. So that would be my first idea -
26:11 - 26:17to lower the energy consumption
and then putting your system on. -
26:17 - 26:24Emmerik: Thank you for… your question
looks like this, in here: -
26:24 - 26:29first you should insulate your buildings,
and then you could add the heating system -
26:29 - 26:34instead of the other way round.
Is that your question? -
26:34 - 26:38Mic 1: Well, I was just wondering if
you, like just said, okay, we’re putting -
26:38 - 26:42new heating systems, or we first try
to lower the consumption and -
26:42 - 26:46then look for a new system
that, yeah, comes… -
26:46 - 26:54Emmerik: The thing is that once you’re
poor, first you want to heat to survive. -
26:54 - 26:59And then, when you survive, you just
suddenly find out there are ways that are -
26:59 - 27:04smarter than the ones you thought of
before. So you find a house, you stay -
27:04 - 27:08there, and you heat it. You don’t find
a house insulated and start heating, -
27:08 - 27:15no. It’s the other way around. And this
tends to extend into many decades. -
27:15 - 27:20So that we have a number of very, very old
houses, and they’re… some of them are -
27:20 - 27:26heritage-restricted, and some of
them are just in very bad shape, and -
27:26 - 27:31many squatters have been living there
before us, and they have not contributed -
27:31 - 27:38to the betterment of the houses.
Right now, as in a new situation, as we -
27:38 - 27:45are looking into eternity, I mean, we’re
staying here, we’re not being forced out -
27:45 - 27:51by the police or anybody. So, we think
longer terms, we say, maybe people live -
27:51 - 27:57for 5 years here, but they should
contribute to the roof that lasts 30 years -
27:57 - 28:01and they should contribute to the
insulation that we need to have a better -
28:01 - 28:07house in all thirty years. And this is a
plan that takes time and effort. -
28:07 - 28:13And also needs to be propagated into
the mindset of people in Christiania. -
28:13 - 28:20And not easy. So first you deliver
pellets, you give them heat, you find out -
28:20 - 28:25how to avoid the pellets; and you give
them insulation to avoid the heat. -
28:25 - 28:27This is the way it has been.
-
28:27 - 28:28Herald: All right think now…
-
28:28 - 28:32Emmerik: I think you have an
extra question? No, is that? -
28:32 - 28:36Herald: Maybe you can just find the other
people who still have questions, we don’t -
28:36 - 28:40have time for all the questions, and you
can just talk to them. Now I think it’s -
28:40 - 28:45the internet’s turn to ask a question,
because they cannot find you afterwards. -
28:45 - 28:49Signal Angel: Yes, the internet has some
questions. First question is: would it be -
28:49 - 28:54possible to have some holiday
in Christiania and -
28:54 - 28:56help you with your project?
-
28:56 - 29:01Johannes: Yes, yes, it would be
possible, very possible. So please -
29:01 - 29:07come join us! You can apply through
this web address up here, crir.net. -
29:07 - 29:12And you can stay there up to one month,
free of charge, of course while contributing. -
29:12 - 29:18And we have a very low level of
documentation so a lot of human -
29:18 - 29:22communication is needed, so you’re very
much welcome. Come and join us, and -
29:22 - 29:26help us reduce the bus factor – he’s taking
the bus every day, we are just waiting -
29:26 - 29:30for him to die! So come and
join us and help us! -
29:30 - 29:34Herald: And I think on that note of the
extension of a very kind invitation to -
29:34 - 29:37all of you to come and join them and
work with them, we have to close the talk. -
29:37 - 29:41I saw you all people at microphones 1, 2
and 8 but unfortunately we don’t have -
29:41 - 29:45any more time. But just come and find the
speakers after the talk, and discuss with -
29:45 - 29:48them all the open questions you still
have. So please give another warm -
29:48 - 29:52round of applause to Johannes,
Kristoffer and Emmerik! -
29:52 - 29:55applause
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29:55 - 30:10postroll music
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in the year 2018
- Title:
- 34C3 - “Nabovarme” opensource heating infrastructure in Christiania
- Description:
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https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-8989-nabovarme_opensource_heating_infrastructure_in_christiania
Freetown Christiania´s digitally controlled/surveyed heating system. 350 users
Project “Nabovarme” (meaning “neighbour heating”) has transformed private heating necessity into a social experiment build on OpenSource software/hardware and social empowerment by transforming heat consumers into Nabovarme Users and letting them take ownership to infrastructure and consumption.
Christiania - a child of hippie thinking and direct democracy, est. 1971
900 inhabitants, 210 houses, 24 hectares land, 1 km from the danish parliament and the royal palace
Local common ownership to ALL infrastructure:
houses, roads, electricity, water, sewers, fiber LAN, park and lakes
Nabovarme (started 2001) has connected more than half of Christiania
Previously heating was based on private wood burning stoves, coal burning stoves and oilheaters, Nabovarme has created a transition towards common heating systems based on burning wood pellets.
Nabovarme has transformed the heating infrastructure into a social experiment built on OpenSource software/hardware and social empowerment and is transforming passive heat consumers into active Nabovarme Users -making everyone take ownership of the infrastructure and a goal of optimizing usage for economic and climate reasons.
Current technologies for heating systems are proprietary and full of protocols hidden behind NDA's.
Our project has unlocked a broad range of devices so data and control now is in the hands of the users - and not sent out of the community.
The project is a cross competence endeavor where equal amounts of plumbing, infrastructure building and digging, electronics and software has been needed to fulfill the task.
The project tells the story about:
A society embracing OpenSource before the term was declared
Communities going together and creating a common heating solution to lower the environmental impact and risk of fire and increase the level of autonomy.
The creation of a custom fitted, self administered payment model.We have liberated devices controlling the production of heat (NBE Pellet system, Kamstrup meter systems) and made devices (MeterLogger) used for metering heat and electricity consumption using open source. We are in the process of bringing easy readable consumption data to the focus of christiania citizens - for all of us to take climate action.
Johannes Valbjorn Emmerik
https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/events/8989.html
- Video Language:
- English
- Duration:
- 30:16
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