Campus free speech realities and myths | Lee Rowland | TEDxUniversityofNevada
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0:14 - 0:182017 was a hell of a year
for the First Amendment. -
0:18 - 0:21Nowhere was more central
to this culture war -
0:21 - 0:24than the campuses
and universities across America, -
0:24 - 0:27including right here,
at the University of Nevada, Reno. -
0:28 - 0:33Two UNR students became infamous
for their speech in the past year, -
0:33 - 0:36found themselves embroiled in two
of the biggest free speech controversies -
0:36 - 0:39of the past couple of years.
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0:40 - 0:44Student Peter Cytanovic
became the face of white nationalism -
0:44 - 0:47when a picture of him snarling,
holding a tiki torch -
0:47 - 0:50at the Unite the Right Rally
in Charlottesville went viral. -
0:51 - 0:54On the complete opposite end
of the political spectrum, -
0:54 - 0:56if you can call it that,
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0:56 - 1:00graduate Colin Kaepernick
went on to the NFL -
1:00 - 1:04and used his position to highlight
police brutality and racial injustice, -
1:04 - 1:08by taking a knee
during the National Anthem. -
1:08 - 1:12Both men became incredibly
controversial for their speech. -
1:12 - 1:18There were calls and campaigns for both
men to be expelled for their opinions. -
1:19 - 1:24But regardless, whether you agree with one
of them, or both of them, or neither, -
1:24 - 1:29the First Amendment protects
both of those men and their opinions -
1:29 - 1:32from censorship and retaliation
by the government. -
1:32 - 1:35That's a good thing,
and I want to tell you why. -
1:36 - 1:38It's becoming more common for me to hear
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1:38 - 1:41that we should have
lower protections for speech, -
1:41 - 1:44that specifically, we should
criminalize hate speech. -
1:44 - 1:46I hear this from the left a lot.
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1:46 - 1:48I think a lot of progressives
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1:48 - 1:51envision a world where people
like Colin Kaepernick -
1:51 - 1:54can take a knee
and protest of racial injustice, -
1:54 - 1:56without fear of retaliation
from the government, -
1:56 - 2:00without fear that the President
will pressure the NFL to fire him. -
2:00 - 2:04But they also want to live in a world
where a government school like UNR -
2:04 - 2:08can expel a student like Peter Cytanovic
for his hateful views. -
2:10 - 2:11That is a fantasy.
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2:11 - 2:14And more than that, it's dangerous.
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2:15 - 2:16I'm a progressive,
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2:16 - 2:20it's not hard for me to pick between
white nationalism and racial justice. -
2:20 - 2:24One is abhorrent, one is an overdue
demand for equal rights. -
2:24 - 2:27But what would happen if I gave
a government the right to decide -
2:27 - 2:30which of those men
was too hateful to speak? -
2:30 - 2:33President Trump
is a pretty useful barometer. -
2:33 - 2:37He called the marchers
at Charlottesville "very fine people," -
2:37 - 2:40while reserving his ire
for black football players who take a knee -
2:40 - 2:42as "sons of bitches."
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2:42 - 2:46Your hate speech may not
be the government's idea of hate speech. -
2:46 - 2:50I sure as hell know, it's not mine.
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2:50 - 2:52But even if you happen
to agree with Trump, -
2:52 - 2:56can you be confident that
the next President, the next government, -
2:56 - 2:59will agree with your world view?
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2:59 - 3:01You shouldn't be.
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3:01 - 3:05That's why, above all,
I am an anti-authoritarian. -
3:05 - 3:07I know that the U.S. government
has a long history -
3:07 - 3:11of wielding its raw power
against the vulnerable communities -
3:11 - 3:13that speak truth to that power,
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3:13 - 3:16against those who seek
to change the status quo. -
3:16 - 3:21And because I want every student
to be able to take a knee -
3:21 - 3:24without fear of government censorship,
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3:24 - 3:27I am a true believer
in the First Amendment. -
3:27 - 3:30But even as a First Amendment attorney,
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3:30 - 3:35I find a lot of the common tropes
and myths about the First Amendment -
3:35 - 3:36really unsatisfying.
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3:37 - 3:40So, I wanna go through
three of these myths, dust them off, -
3:40 - 3:41and hopefully in the process,
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3:41 - 3:47we'll come up with three practical rules
for exercising your free speech rights, -
3:47 - 3:49powerfully and strategically.
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3:49 - 3:53So the first one is one I suspect
we all learned in Kindergarten - -
3:53 - 3:57if you remember your nursery rhymes,
please feel free to join me. -
3:57 - 4:02Sticks and stones may break my bones
but words will never hurt me. -
4:02 - 4:05Does anyone, as an adult,
actually believe this? -
4:05 - 4:08It's manifestly untrue.
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4:08 - 4:12I'm a free speech attorney precisely
because I believe that words matter; -
4:13 - 4:17it's ludicrous to protect free speech
by denying its very power. -
4:17 - 4:21So, why do we lie to kids, right?
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4:21 - 4:24Why do we fabricate this thing for them?
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4:24 - 4:29Well, it's because humans of all ages
can be vicious; it's just true. -
4:30 - 4:35And when a kid is at the receiving end
of injustice, a taunt, hateful language, -
4:36 - 4:39we want that kid
to be empowered, not diminished. -
4:41 - 4:46In February, notorious troll
Milo Yiannopoulos -
4:46 - 4:48had a planned speech at UC Berkeley.
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4:48 - 4:52Students and others
in the community went nuts. -
4:52 - 4:56There were protests, there were riots,
things were set on fire. -
4:56 - 4:59The administration cancelled his talk.
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4:59 - 5:03In April, there was a repeat, same thing,
except this time, it was Ann Coulter. -
5:03 - 5:05She was going to speak,
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5:05 - 5:07school officials said,
"There's going to be riots." -
5:07 - 5:09They cancelled her talk.
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5:09 - 5:11Those two individuals, Ann and Milo,
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5:12 - 5:14man, they became martyrs.
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5:14 - 5:18They got to take on the roll of victims
of liberal censorship. -
5:19 - 5:21They went on media tours,
the media ate it up. -
5:21 - 5:24They got more attention
for being silenced than they ever did -
5:24 - 5:27for trying to peddle
their actual substantive views. -
5:27 - 5:32So, I think it's helpful to think
of professional, provocateurs and trolls -
5:32 - 5:34as we would those schoolyard bullies.
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5:34 - 5:37Yeah, their words can hurt,
there's no point in denying that. -
5:38 - 5:41But the better question is,
how do we respond to that, right? -
5:42 - 5:48And a troll, a provocateur,
wants you to censor them. -
5:48 - 5:51That's part of the goal,
it feeds into their power, -
5:51 - 5:53it gives them something else to sell.
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5:53 - 5:56So, we don't have to march to that tune.
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5:56 - 5:58You don't have to play that role.
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5:58 - 6:01And we can think of them,
like these bullies, -
6:01 - 6:06yeah their words hurt,
but there's also power in sass. -
6:06 - 6:09There's power in refusing
to be goaded into a fight -
6:09 - 6:11or to play the role of censor.
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6:11 - 6:13So, don't do it.
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6:14 - 6:18But some words wound in ways
that are different from others. -
6:19 - 6:21Which brings us to myth number two.
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6:22 - 6:24I hear this one a lot,
particularly online. -
6:24 - 6:28We all know that hate speech
isn't protected by the First Amendment. -
6:29 - 6:31Not so.
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6:31 - 6:35As that anecdote about Trump
hopefully made you think, -
6:35 - 6:37hate speech can be
in the eye of the beholder, -
6:37 - 6:40ear of the behearer, I guess,
if that's a word. -
6:42 - 6:44Just this week in Spain,
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6:44 - 6:48a man was arrested
for the hate crime - this is real - -
6:48 - 6:51of calling cops "slackers" on Facebook.
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6:52 - 6:55Police are covered
under the Spanish Hate Crime Law. -
6:55 - 6:58That's what criticizing
your government looks like -
6:58 - 7:01in a country without a First Amendment.
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7:01 - 7:05But we don't have to protect speech
just out of paranoia -
7:05 - 7:10that our government will warp
what we think speech and hate speech are, -
7:11 - 7:13there's also an upshot.
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7:13 - 7:15In the late 1960's,
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7:15 - 7:21a KKK leader named Charles Brandenburg
was arrested on criminal charges -
7:22 - 7:25of incitement to violence
for holding a KKK rally. -
7:26 - 7:30The speech was as abhorrent,
as vicious, racist as you might imagine. -
7:31 - 7:35But the KKK's lawyers took it
all the way up to the Supreme Court. -
7:36 - 7:39And they challenged this crime,
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7:39 - 7:42said he had a free speech right
to be a KKK member, -
7:42 - 7:45and the Supreme Court thought about it
and said, "You're right." -
7:45 - 7:49Before we allow the government
to punish you for your speech, -
7:49 - 7:51it has to pass such a high bar,
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7:51 - 7:54there has to be an immediate
and specific risk -
7:54 - 7:57of actual physical violence
to a real person. -
7:57 - 8:01And this KKK rally, well,
it was a group of white racists, -
8:01 - 8:02but there wasn't anyone around
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8:02 - 8:06that they were intending
to actually engage in violence against. -
8:06 - 8:09That case, in a vacuum,
might be tough to swallow. -
8:09 - 8:11I think particularly
if you're a person of color. -
8:11 - 8:13But it's not the end of the story.
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8:13 - 8:15At about the same time,
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8:15 - 8:19a lion of the Civil Rights Movement
named Charles Evers -
8:19 - 8:24was giving a huge speech
to a gathering of NAACP supporters, -
8:25 - 8:29who had come together to boycott
white-owned racist businesses -
8:29 - 8:32that didn't allow black Americans
to come into their business. -
8:32 - 8:36And as he's giving his speech,
Evers gets worked up and really passionate -
8:36 - 8:40and he says, "I'll wring the damn neck
of anybody who breaks this boycott." -
8:40 - 8:42So, what's he done, right?
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8:42 - 8:45He's fantasized
about some future violence, -
8:45 - 8:49it's hypothetical,
he's not pointing at Bob there, right? -
8:49 - 8:53So, the Brandenburg case
has just come out of the Supreme Court, -
8:53 - 8:56and the NAACP's lawyers look at that
and they say, "Well, this can't be right. -
8:56 - 9:00How can a KKK leader get
a 'get out of jail' free card, -
9:00 - 9:05but our Civil Rights guy, Mr. Evers,
is being sued for incitement -
9:05 - 9:09by the same white-owned businesses
that he was protesting?" -
9:10 - 9:13Mr. Evers challenged these charges too.
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9:13 - 9:15And he went all the way up
to the Supreme Court. -
9:15 - 9:17And the Supreme Court said,
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9:17 - 9:21"Well, I guess we're constrained
by that Brandenburg case -
9:21 - 9:23to give you your free speech rights too."
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9:24 - 9:28I want to be clear, by the way,
that I don't see anything equivalent -
9:28 - 9:31between the KKK and the NAACP.
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9:33 - 9:37But the court is an odd place -
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9:37 - 9:41it's a bit stripped of context in history,
it's a kind of bastion of privilege - -
9:41 - 9:44and all they boiled it down to was,
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9:44 - 9:47"Is this theoretical future violence?
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9:47 - 9:50Or is there an immediate and specific
risk of harm to a real person?" -
9:50 - 9:51And they said,
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9:51 - 9:54"From that point of view,
these look the same." -
9:55 - 10:00Now, I know a lot of people
are skeptical that in practice, -
10:00 - 10:03the rights that are extended
to people like a KKK leader -
10:03 - 10:06actually trickle down to somebody
like an NAACP leader. -
10:06 - 10:08They're not wrong to be skeptical.
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10:08 - 10:12Our country has always taken a while
to distribute its rights equally -
10:12 - 10:13among its citizenry, right?
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10:13 - 10:15Think of the right to vote.
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10:15 - 10:18Did we all get it at the same time,
regardless of sex, regardless of race? -
10:18 - 10:19Absolutely not.
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10:19 - 10:20Or even in today's world,
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10:20 - 10:24do you think your constitutional rights
at arrest look the same -
10:24 - 10:25regardless of your race?
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10:25 - 10:27Your right to carry a gun?
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10:27 - 10:30Do you think that looks the same
whether you're black or you're white? -
10:30 - 10:31Again, no.
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10:31 - 10:37But is the answer to eliminate or lessen
the very constitutional protections -
10:37 - 10:40that allow us to hold the government
accountable when it violates our rights? -
10:40 - 10:42Hell no.
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10:43 - 10:47Instead, making sure that constitutional
rights are evenly distributed -
10:47 - 10:49is a process, right?
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10:49 - 10:53And it's our job,
the First Amendment is no different. -
10:53 - 10:55So, when the Supreme Court,
when the powers that be, -
10:55 - 10:59give that right to somebody
like Brandenburg, a KKK leader, -
10:59 - 11:03it's our job, Civil Rights leaders,
those who believe in equal rights, -
11:03 - 11:07in justice, to ratchet everybody up
to that same level of protection -
11:07 - 11:09for constitutional rights.
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11:09 - 11:12And that's precisely what the NAACP did.
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11:12 - 11:14And that's all of our job too.
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11:14 - 11:17That's what I do,
as a free speech attorney, -
11:17 - 11:19and that's what you
need to do as students. -
11:19 - 11:22You need to make sure
that these theoretical rules -
11:22 - 11:24filter down on the ground.
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11:25 - 11:27So are students up for it?
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11:27 - 11:30That brings us to our third
and final myth. -
11:30 - 11:33"Today's students are just snowflakes."
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11:35 - 11:36I hear it all the time.
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11:36 - 11:40Usually meant as an insult, by the way,
as beautiful as snowflakes are. -
11:42 - 11:45So, because of the First Amendment,
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11:45 - 11:52public schools and universities
can not ban people from campus, -
11:52 - 11:54simply because their views are hateful.
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11:55 - 11:58So that means that over the past year,
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11:58 - 12:01black and Jewish students
have had to leave their dorm rooms -
12:01 - 12:05and walk to class passing by people
who have called for their extermination. -
12:05 - 12:09It means that women students
have had to walk by speakers on campus -
12:09 - 12:11who call feminism a cancer.
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12:11 - 12:14LGBT students have had
to walk by people saying, -
12:14 - 12:17"Transgenderism is a medical disorder."
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12:17 - 12:19No adult has to go to work
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12:19 - 12:22and walk by people saying
they're less than human -
12:22 - 12:24or that they shouldn't exist.
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12:24 - 12:28I don't think students are snowflakes,
I think they're badasses. -
12:29 - 12:33Because they bear the brunt
of that First Amendment on campus, -
12:33 - 12:36where these professional
provocateurs come, right? -
12:36 - 12:40Now, when I say that silencing
your political opponents isn't the answer, -
12:40 - 12:44it's not because I think that's weak,
it's because I think that's unstrategic. -
12:44 - 12:48So, if silencing your enemies
isn't an answer, -
12:48 - 12:51what does empowerment look like
in the First Amendment? -
12:51 - 12:54Well sometimes, it's just sheer numbers.
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12:54 - 12:58The week after Charlottesville,
a group of people planned a rally -
12:58 - 13:02on Boston Common that they termed
"The Free Speech Rally." -
13:02 - 13:06They were alt-right folks,
and this is a week after Charlottesville. -
13:06 - 13:10Only a handful
of permit-holders showed up. -
13:10 - 13:14But 40,000+ members
of the Massachusetts community -
13:14 - 13:17and from across the country,
engaged in a counter protest -
13:17 - 13:21ringing Boston Common,
standing strong, right? -
13:21 - 13:24Sending a very powerful
message of resistance together. -
13:24 - 13:26That's a blizzard of snowflakes, right?
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13:26 - 13:28There's no weakness in that.
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13:28 - 13:31But sometimes, just a single person
will make a difference. -
13:31 - 13:34One of my favorite stories
from the last couple of years, -
13:34 - 13:38one of my favorite free speech victories
from the last few years, -
13:38 - 13:45is a musician who was really appalled
that the KKK was planning to march -
13:45 - 13:48in his hometown of Charleston.
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13:48 - 13:51And so, using the tools at his disposal,
he got out his sousaphone. -
13:51 - 13:55That's one of these big
brass instruments, BOM-BOM. -
13:55 - 13:58And he got out of the street
and he got next to the KKK, -
13:58 - 14:01and he just oompa, oompa,
oompa, oompa-ed along with them. -
14:01 - 14:02(Laughter)
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14:02 - 14:06It's amazing, you should look up
the video, it's worth watching. -
14:06 - 14:13And without saying a single word,
he stripped these fascists bare. -
14:13 - 14:16They couldn't even bear to go on
marching, they were so humiliated. -
14:16 - 14:18You can't keep up
a straight face of fascism -
14:18 - 14:22with a goofy tuba lined behind you,
it's just hard to do. -
14:23 - 14:27So look, I believe in the First Amendment
fundamentally, first and foremost -
14:27 - 14:29because I know
it's the greatest tool we have -
14:29 - 14:32to keep the government
out of regulating the conversations -
14:32 - 14:34that spark every change in the world.
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14:34 - 14:37If you want to keep having conversations
that change the world, -
14:37 - 14:40you should embrace
this First Amendment too, -
14:40 - 14:41messiness and all.
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14:41 - 14:45And even though those three myths
might not be true, -
14:45 - 14:49I hope they started to reveal
a few real nuggets of truth -
14:49 - 14:53about how we can strategically exercise
our powerful First Amendment rights. -
14:53 - 14:56Number one: Know your history.
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14:56 - 15:00Know that when rights are extended
to the powerful and privileged, -
15:00 - 15:04that it's our job to make sure
that everybody benefits from those rights. -
15:04 - 15:08Understand that the same First Amendment
that first extended to a KKK member -
15:08 - 15:10was used strategically
by Civil Rights leaders -
15:10 - 15:13to cover the NAACP leader as well.
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15:13 - 15:16That's a success story
and we have to keep doing it. -
15:16 - 15:20Number two: Don't try to silence
your way out of a debate. -
15:20 - 15:24As we've seen from Free Speech Week,
as we've seen from the Free Speech Rally, -
15:24 - 15:27people trying to co-op
the term Free Speech -
15:27 - 15:28just feeds them power.
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15:28 - 15:30We can't let them do that.
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15:30 - 15:34Free Speech as a concept,
its power is in its indivisibility, -
15:34 - 15:39its equal for the KKK leader
and the NAACP leader alike, right? -
15:39 - 15:41So don't dance to that tune.
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15:41 - 15:44You don't have to give
the provocateur the censorship -
15:44 - 15:46she's desperately hoping
that you give her. -
15:47 - 15:49So that brings us to number three.
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15:49 - 15:51Dance to your own tune.
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15:51 - 15:55Figure out for yourself
when you go to a counter protest, -
15:55 - 15:58in numbers or alone with your tuba.
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15:58 - 16:02Figure out when you hold an alternative
and more loving event across campus. -
16:02 - 16:04Figure out when you think there are ideas
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16:04 - 16:07that are just fundamentally
unworthy of debate. -
16:07 - 16:11And the way that you figure out
how to handle these conflicts, -
16:11 - 16:15how to handle speech that you abhor,
can be a great guideline -
16:15 - 16:19for how you handle conflict
throughout the rest of your life. -
16:19 - 16:20My name is Lee Rowland.
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16:20 - 16:25I'm an unabashed progressive,
I'm a skeptic, I'm an anti-authoritarian. -
16:25 - 16:27For all of those reasons,
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16:27 - 16:31I believe in a robust
and indivisible First Amendment. -
16:31 - 16:32Join me.
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16:32 - 16:33Thank you.
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16:33 - 16:35(Applause)
- Title:
- Campus free speech realities and myths | Lee Rowland | TEDxUniversityofNevada
- Speaker:
- Lee Rowland
- Description:
-
University of Nevada, Reno (UNR) students and graduates have been embroiled in two of the biggest free speech controversies in recent years. In 2016, UNR graduate and National Football League (NFL) player Colin Kaepernick protested before football games when he refused to stand for the national anthem. In the summer of 2017, UNR student Peter Cvjetanovic became the face of the white nationalist rally he attended in Charlottesville, Virginia. Reflecting on these examples, Lee Rowland discusses three myths about our First Amendment rights and then concludes with practical suggestions for exercising free speech rights powerfully and strategically. Lee Rowland is a senior staff attorney with the ACLU’s Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project. Lee has extensive experience as a litigator, lobbyist, and public speaker. She has served as lead counsel in federal First Amendment cases involving public employee speech rights, the First Amendment rights of community advocates, government regulation of digital speech, and state secrecy surrounding the lethal injection process. She also authors amicus briefs and blogs on topics including the intersection of speech and privacy, student and public employee speech, obscenity, and the Communications Decency Act. While at the ACLU, Lee has served as an adjunct clinical professor for NYU Law’s Technology Law and Policy Clinic, a member of the New York Bar Association’s Communications and Media Law Committee, and an adjunct faculty member in the Human Rights Program at the Roosevelt House Public Policy Institute at Hunter College.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
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