12 Angry Men (1957)
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1:16 - 1:19Thank you very much, sir.
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1:19 - 1:21You did a wonderful job. Wonderful.
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1:21 - 1:23Shh. Shh.
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1:23 - 1:27We did it, Pete. We did it.
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1:27 - 1:29- For a moment, we had our doubts.
- Shh. -
1:29 - 1:32To continue, you've listened
to a long and complex case... -
1:32 - 1:34murder in the first degree.
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1:34 - 1:39A premeditated murder is the most serious
charge tried in our criminal courts. -
1:39 - 1:41You've listened to the testimony.
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1:41 - 1:44You've had the law read to you
and interpreted as it applies in this case. -
1:44 - 1:49It's now your duty to sit down and try
and separate the facts from the fancy. -
1:49 - 1:53One man is dead.
Another man's life is at stake. -
1:53 - 1:57If there's a reasonable doubt in your minds
as to the guilt of the accused... -
1:57 - 1:59a reasonable doubt...
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1:59 - 2:02then you must bring me
a verdict of not guilty. -
2:02 - 2:04Now if, however,
there's no reasonable doubt... -
2:04 - 2:09then you must in good conscience
find the accused guilty. -
2:09 - 2:13However you decide,
your verdict must be unanimous. -
2:13 - 2:17In the event
that you find the accused guilty... -
2:17 - 2:20the bench will not entertain
a recommendation for mercy. -
2:20 - 2:24The death sentence
is mandatory in this case. -
2:24 - 2:29You're faced with a grave responsibility.
Thank you, gentlemen. -
2:29 - 2:37The alternate jurors are excused.
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2:37 - 4:37The jury will now retire.
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4:37 - 4:41Try this one. See if I can get it...
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4:41 - 4:46It's a muggy day.
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4:46 - 5:00Hey. Oh, oh.
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5:00 - 5:02- Piece of gum?
- No, thanks. -
5:02 - 5:04This thing is...
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5:04 - 5:08- Huh?
- ...move it. -
5:08 - 5:10- Come on, I'll give you a hand.
- Give me a hand with that. -
5:10 - 5:17That's it.
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5:17 - 5:19- You know something?
- Yeah? -
5:19 - 5:20I called the weather bureau this morning.
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5:20 - 5:22This is gonna be
the hottest day of the year. -
5:22 - 5:24Could be.
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5:24 - 5:26Boy, you'd think they'd at least
air-condition these places. -
5:26 - 5:30- What is your name, sir?
- Oh, it's, uh - That one, yeah. -
5:30 - 5:31Thank you very much.
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5:31 - 5:34Okay, gentlemen, everybody's here.
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5:34 - 5:37Now, if there's anything you want,
I'll be right outside the door. -
5:37 - 5:52- Just knock.
- Okay, thanks. We will. -
5:52 - 5:53Good morning.
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5:53 - 5:54I never knew they locked the door.
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5:54 - 5:58Sure they lock the door.
What'd you think? -
5:58 - 6:02I don't know.
It just never occurred to me. -
6:02 - 6:04What's that for?
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6:04 - 6:06Oh, I thought we might want
to vote by ballot. -
6:06 - 6:10Great idea. Maybe we can
get him elected senator. -
6:10 - 6:16Just in case, you know.
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6:16 - 6:18- Ηow'd you like it?
- Oh, I don't know. -
6:18 - 6:20It was pretty interesting.
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6:20 - 6:22Yeah? I almost fell asleep.
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6:22 - 6:24I mean, I've never been
on a jury before. -
6:24 - 6:28No? I've sat on many juries.
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6:28 - 6:31What gets me is the way
those lawyers talk and talk and talk... -
6:31 - 6:33even when it's an open-and-shut case
like this one. -
6:33 - 6:35Did you ever hear
so much talk about nothin'? -
6:35 - 6:37Well, I guess they're entitled.
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6:37 - 6:41Yeah. They're entitled.
It's the system, but... -
6:41 - 6:45If you ask me, I'd slap those tough kids
down before they start any trouble. -
6:45 - 6:47It would save us a lot of time and money.
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6:47 - 6:48- Hey, let's get started, huh?
- That's a good idea. -
6:48 - 6:52- Yeah, let's get goin', huh?
- We probably all got things to do here. -
6:52 - 6:54I figured we'd start out with a five-minute break.
There's one gentleman in the bathroom. -
6:54 - 6:56- Mr. Foreman.
- Huh? -
6:56 - 6:58- Are, uh - Are we gonna sit in order?
- Gee, I don't know. -
6:58 - 7:05I, uh - Well, I guess so.
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7:05 - 7:07Uh, you're in my seat.
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7:07 - 7:12- Oh. Excuse me.
- That's all right. -
7:12 - 7:17Hey, that's not a bad view, huh?
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7:17 - 7:19What did you think of the case?
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7:19 - 7:22I mean, it had a lot of interest for me.
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7:22 - 7:26No real... dead spots.
You know what I mean? -
7:26 - 7:28I tell you, we were lucky
to get a murder case. -
7:28 - 7:30I figured us for an assault or burglary.
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7:30 - 7:34Boy, they can be the dullest.
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7:34 - 7:35Hey.
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7:35 - 7:37That the Woolworth Building?
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7:37 - 7:39That's right.
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7:39 - 7:41Isn't that funny?
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7:41 - 7:43You know, I've lived here all my life.
I've never been inside that. -
7:43 - 7:45If you had to sort out all that junk...
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7:45 - 7:48Like that thing with the movies.
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7:48 - 7:51- Yeah. You can say that again.
- And what about that business with the knife? -
7:51 - 7:54I mean, asking grown-up people
to believe that kind of jazz, huh? -
7:54 - 7:56Well, I expected that.
You know what we're dealing with. -
7:56 - 7:59Yeah, I guess so.
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7:59 - 8:02Well, your horn works.
Now try your lights. -
8:02 - 8:04- What do you got, a cold?
- And how. -
8:04 - 8:06These hot-weather colds can kill you.
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8:06 - 8:08I can hardly touch my nose.
You know what I mean? -
8:08 - 8:12I sure do. I just got over one.
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8:12 - 8:14Aw, come on. Mr.
Foreman, let's go here, huh? -
8:14 - 8:16Well, that guy's still in the bathroom.
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8:16 - 8:19Hey, what's new? I didn't get a chance
to see a paper this morning. -
8:19 - 8:21Hmm?
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8:21 - 8:23I was only wondering
how the market closed. -
8:23 - 8:26You got a seat on the Exchange?
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8:26 - 8:28I'm a broker.
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8:28 - 8:32I run a messenger service -
the Beck and Call Company. -
8:32 - 8:34The name is my wife's idea.
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8:34 - 8:38Got 37 men working.
Started with nothing. -
8:38 - 8:45Okay, men, let's take our seats, huh?
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8:45 - 8:46Yeah, we can all get outta here
pretty quick, huh? -
8:46 - 8:50I don't know about the rest of you, but I happen
to have tickets to that ball game tonight. -
8:50 - 8:52Yanks and Cleveland.
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8:52 - 8:54Yeah, we got this kid,
Modjelewski, in there. -
8:54 - 8:55Ooh, he's a real bull, this kid.
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8:55 - 8:57You know - Phoom!
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8:57 - 9:00A real jug handle. You know?
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9:00 - 9:02Phoom!
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9:02 - 9:05You're a real baseball fan, aren't you?
Huh? Yeah. -
9:05 - 9:06Where do we sit here?
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9:06 - 9:09Well, I thought we'd sit in order,
you know, by jury numbers. -
9:09 - 9:12One, two, three, four, five -
so on, around the table. -
9:12 - 9:13If that's okay with you gentlemen.
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9:13 - 9:14- Sure.
- What's the difference? -
9:14 - 9:17- I think it's reasonable to sit in order.
- Let it be. -
9:17 - 9:20- Number 12. Do I sit down here?
- Yeah. That's 12. We go around... -
9:20 - 9:23- We start with you. One, right?
- One, yeah. Two, three, four, five, six. -
9:23 - 9:26What was your impression
of the prosecuting attorney? -
9:26 - 9:27Okay. Two. You're two.
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9:27 - 9:29I beg pardon?
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9:29 - 9:33I thought he was really sharp, the way
he handled all those points one by one. -
9:33 - 9:36Logical sequence.
I was very impressed. -
9:36 - 9:39I think he - he did an expert job.
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9:39 - 9:42A lot of drive too, you know?
Real drive. -
9:42 - 9:44- Okay, fellas, can we hold it down a minute?
- Sure. -
9:44 - 9:46Uh, fellas.
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9:46 - 9:51Say, we'd like to get started.
Gentleman at the window. -
9:51 - 9:53- We'd like to get started.
- Oh, I'm sorry. -
9:53 - 9:57Pretty tough to figure, isn't it?
Kid kills his father - bing, just like that. -
9:57 - 10:00Aw, listen, you analyze the figures,
you'll see it happens all the time. -
10:00 - 10:02They let those kids
run wild up there. -
10:02 - 10:05Well, maybe it serves 'em right.
You know what I mean? -
10:05 - 10:06Is - Is everyone here?
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10:06 - 10:08The old man is inside.
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10:08 - 10:11Oh. Would you, uh,
knock on the door for him? -
10:11 - 10:13You a Yankee fan?
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10:13 - 10:15No. Baltimore.
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10:15 - 10:18- Baltimore?
- Yeah. -
10:18 - 10:23That's like being hit in the head
with a crowbar once a day. -
10:23 - 10:24Who have they got?
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10:24 - 10:26No, I mean, who have they got
besides good groundskeepers? -
10:26 - 10:28Say, uh, we'd like to get started.
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10:28 - 10:31Oh, forgive me, gentlemen.
I - I didn't mean to keep you waiting. -
10:31 - 10:34Baltimore?
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10:34 - 10:37Okay, gentlemen,
if I can have your attention. -
10:37 - 10:40You fellas can handle this thing
any way that you want to. -
10:40 - 10:42I'm, um - You know,
I'm not gonna make any rules. -
10:42 - 10:46Uh, we can, well, discuss it first
and, uh, then vote on it. -
10:46 - 10:48That's, of course, uh -
That's, uh, one way. -
10:48 - 10:51And, uh, well, we can
vote on it right now, and... -
10:51 - 10:54I think it's customary
to take a preliminary vote. -
10:54 - 10:58Yeah, let's - Let's vote. Who knows?
Maybe we all can get outta here, huh? -
10:58 - 10:59Uh-huh.
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10:59 - 11:02Okay, then I think that, uh...
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11:02 - 11:06Of course you know that we have
a first-degree murder charge here... -
11:06 - 11:08and if we vote the accused guilty...
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11:08 - 11:11uh, we've got to send him
to the chair. -
11:11 - 11:15- Um, that's mandatory.
- I think we know that. -
11:15 - 11:16- Let's see who's where.
- We might as well. -
11:16 - 11:22- Okay. Uh, anyone doesn't want to vote?
- All right with me. -
11:22 - 11:26Okay. Then, uh, just remember that this
has to be 12 to nothing either way. -
11:26 - 11:28Um, that's the law.
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11:28 - 11:30Okay, are we ready?
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11:30 - 11:37Now, all those voting guilty,
please raise your hands. -
11:37 - 11:42One, two, three, four,
five, six, seven... -
11:42 - 11:45eight, nine, 10, 11.
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11:45 - 11:48Okay. That's 11 guilty.
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11:48 - 11:50Those voting not guilty.
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11:50 - 11:52One. Right.
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11:52 - 11:56That's 11 guilty. One not guilty.
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11:56 - 11:57Well, now we know where we are.
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11:57 - 12:02Boy, oh, boy. There's always one.
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12:02 - 12:04So, what do we do now?
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12:04 - 12:06Well, I guess we talk.
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12:06 - 12:08Boy, oh, boy.
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12:08 - 12:13You really think he's innocent?
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12:13 - 12:15I don't know.
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12:15 - 12:18I mean, you sat in court with the rest of us.
You heard what we did. -
12:18 - 12:20The kid's a dangerous killer.
You could see it. -
12:20 - 12:22He's 18 years old.
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12:22 - 12:24Well, that's old enough. Ηe...
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12:24 - 12:26He stabbed his own father
four inches into the chest. -
12:26 - 12:29They proved it
a dozen different ways in court. -
12:29 - 12:31Would you like me to list them for you?
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12:31 - 12:33No.
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12:33 - 12:35Then what do you want?
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12:35 - 12:38- I just want to talk.
- What's there to talk about? -
12:38 - 12:39Eleven men in here think he's guilty.
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12:39 - 12:42No one had to think about it twice
except you. -
12:42 - 12:45I want to ask you something.
Do you believe his story? -
12:45 - 12:48I don't know whether I believe it or not.
Maybe I don't. -
12:48 - 12:50So how come you vote not guilty?
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12:50 - 12:52Well, there were 11 votes for guilty.
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12:52 - 12:54It's not easy to raise my hand
and send a boy off to die... -
12:54 - 12:57without talking about it first.
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12:57 - 13:00- Well, now, who says it's easy?
- No one. -
13:00 - 13:02What, just because I voted fast?
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13:02 - 13:05I honestly think the guy's guilty.
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13:05 - 13:08You couldn't change my mind
if you talked for a hundred years. -
13:08 - 13:10I'm not trying to change your mind.
It's just that... -
13:10 - 13:13We're talking about somebody's life here.
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13:13 - 13:15We can't decide it in five minutes.
Supposing we're wrong. -
13:15 - 13:16"Supposing we're wrong."
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13:16 - 13:19Supposing this whole building
should fall down on my head. -
13:19 - 13:21- You can suppose anything.
- That's right. -
13:21 - 13:23Look, what's the difference
how long it takes? -
13:23 - 13:26Suppose we do it in five minutes.
So what? -
13:26 - 13:28Let's take an hour.
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13:28 - 13:33The ball game doesn't start till 8:00.
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13:33 - 13:36Hmm?
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13:36 - 13:38Who's got something to say?
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13:38 - 13:39I'm willing to sit for an hour.
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13:39 - 13:42Great. I heard
a pretty good story last night. -
13:42 - 13:45That's not why we're sitting here.
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13:45 - 13:50All right, then you tell me.
What are we sitting here for? -
13:50 - 13:53I don't know. Maybe no reason.
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13:53 - 13:56Look, this kid's been kicked around
all of his life... -
13:56 - 14:00you know, born in a slum,
mother dead since he was nine. -
14:00 - 14:02He lived for a year and a half
in an orphanage when his... -
14:02 - 14:06his father was serving a jail term
for forgery. -
14:06 - 14:08It's not a very happy beginning.
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14:08 - 14:10He's a - a wild, angry kid.
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14:10 - 14:12That's all he's ever been.
And you know why? -
14:12 - 14:16'Cause he's been hit on the head
by somebody once a day every day. -
14:16 - 14:18He's had a -
He's had a pretty miserable 18 years. -
14:18 - 14:21I - I just think we owe him a few words.
That's all. -
14:21 - 14:25I don't mind telling you this, mister.
We don't owe him a thing. -
14:25 - 14:28He got a fair trial, didn't he?
What do you think that trial cost? -
14:28 - 14:31- He's lucky he got it. You know what I mean?
- You know it. -
14:31 - 14:33Now, look, we're all grown-ups in here.
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14:33 - 14:35We heard the facts, didn't we?
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14:35 - 14:39You're not gonna tell me that we're supposed
to believe this kid, knowing what he is. -
14:39 - 14:42Listen, I've lived among them
all my life. -
14:42 - 14:45You can't believe a word they say.
You know that. -
14:45 - 14:47I mean, they're born liars.
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14:47 - 14:51- Only an ignorant man can believe that.
- Now listen... -
14:51 - 14:53Do you think you were born
with a monopoly on the truth? -
14:53 - 14:56I think certain things should be
pointed out to this man. -
14:56 - 14:58- Come on. This isn't Sunday.
- We don't need a sermon. -
14:58 - 15:02- Come on.
- We have a job to do. Now let's do it. -
15:02 - 15:05Rice Pops.
It's a product I work on at the agency. -
15:05 - 15:08"The breakfast with the built-in bounce."
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15:08 - 15:10- I wrote that line.
- Very catchy. -
15:10 - 15:12- Yeah.
- Say, do you mind? -
15:12 - 15:14Oh, I'm sorry.
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15:14 - 15:16I have this habit of doodling.
Keeps me thinking clearly. -
15:16 - 15:18Yeah, we have all this work to do.
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15:18 - 15:20- There's no point staying here forever.
- Sorry. -
15:20 - 15:22Okay. Um...
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15:22 - 15:26perhaps if the gentleman down there
who's disagreeing with us... -
15:26 - 15:30Well, perhaps you could tell us why.
You know, let us know what you're thinking. -
15:30 - 15:32And we might be able to show you
where you're mixed up. -
15:32 - 15:33Well, look, maybe -
Maybe this is an idea. -
15:33 - 15:36Now, I haven't given it much thought,
but it seems to me... -
15:36 - 15:41that it's up to the group of us to convince
this gentleman that he's wrong and we're right. -
15:41 - 15:45Now, maybe if we each took
a couple of minutes just to... -
15:45 - 15:46Well, it was just a quick idea.
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15:46 - 15:48No, no, no. That's a good one.
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15:48 - 15:51Uh, suppose we go
once around the table. -
15:51 - 15:54- I guess you're first.
- Oh. -
15:54 - 15:57Well, uh...
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15:57 - 16:00Well, it-it's hard to put into words.
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16:00 - 16:02I just think he's guilty.
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16:02 - 16:05I thought it was obvious
from the word "go." -
16:05 - 16:07I mean, nobody proved otherwise.
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16:07 - 16:08Nobody has to prove otherwise.
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16:08 - 16:11The burden of proof's on the prosecution.
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16:11 - 16:13The defendant doesn't even
have to open his mouth. -
16:13 - 16:16- That's in the Constitution.
- Oh, well, sure, I know that. -
16:16 - 16:20Uh, what I meant was, is...
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16:20 - 16:22Well, I just think he's guilty.
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16:22 - 16:24I-I mean, somebody saw him do it.
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16:24 - 16:29Okay. Uh, here's what I think,
and I have no personal feelings about this. -
16:29 - 16:32I just want to talk about facts.
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16:32 - 16:35Number one.
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16:35 - 16:39The old man lived downstairs under the room
where the killing took place. -
16:39 - 16:41At 10 minutes after 12:00
on the night of the killing... -
16:41 - 16:45he heard loud noises,
said it sounded like a fight. -
16:45 - 16:48And he heard the kid yell out,
"I'm gonna kill ya." -
16:48 - 16:50A second later,
he heard a body hit the floor. -
16:50 - 16:52Ran to the door, opened it up...
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16:52 - 16:55saw the kid running down the stairs
and out of the house. -
16:55 - 16:56Called the police.
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16:56 - 16:59They came in, found the old man
with a knife in his chest. -
16:59 - 17:02The coroner fixed the time of death
around midnight. -
17:02 - 17:05Now these are facts.
You can't refute facts. -
17:05 - 17:07The kid is guilty.
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17:07 - 17:10I'm just as sentimental as the next fella.
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17:10 - 17:14I know he's only 18, but he's still
gotta pay for what he did. -
17:14 - 17:15I'm with you.
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17:15 - 17:18Okay. Are you finished?
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17:18 - 17:19- Yeah.
- Right. Next. -
17:19 - 17:23It is obvious, to me anyway,
that the boy's entire story was flimsy. -
17:23 - 17:25He claimed he was at the movies
during the time of the killing... -
17:25 - 17:28and yet, one hour later, he couldn't
remember the names of the films he saw... -
17:28 - 17:30- or who played in them.
- That's right. -
17:30 - 17:32And no one saw him going in
or out of the theater. -
17:32 - 17:34Listen, what about the woman
across the street? -
17:34 - 17:36If her testimony don't prove it,
nothing does. -
17:36 - 17:38That's right. She was the one
who actually saw the killing. -
17:38 - 17:41- Now, fellas, please.
- Let's go in order here, huh? -
17:41 - 17:44Just a minute. Here's a woman...
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17:44 - 17:47Here's a woman who was lying in bed.
She can't sleep. -
17:47 - 17:49She's dying with the heat.
You know what I mean? -
17:49 - 17:51Anyway, she looks out the window...
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17:51 - 17:54and right across the street she sees
the kid stick the knife into his father. -
17:54 - 17:57The time is 12:10 on the nose.
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17:57 - 17:59Everything fits.
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17:59 - 18:01Look, she's known the kid all his life.
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18:01 - 18:03His window is right opposite hers
across the el tracks... -
18:03 - 18:05and she swore she saw him do it.
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18:05 - 18:07- Through the windows of the passing el train.
- Right. -
18:07 - 18:12This el train had no passengers on it.
It was just being moved downtown. -
18:12 - 18:15The lights were out, remember?
And they proved in court that, at night... -
18:15 - 18:17you can look through the windows
of an el train when the lights are out... -
18:17 - 18:20and see what's happening
on the other side. -
18:20 - 18:23- They proved it.
- I'd like to ask you something. -
18:23 - 18:26You don't believe the boy's story.
How come you believe the woman's? -
18:26 - 18:30She's one of them too, isn't she?
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18:30 - 18:32You're a pretty smart fella, aren't you?
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18:32 - 18:33- Okay, gentlemen.
- Now, now. -
18:33 - 18:36- Now, gentlemen.
- Come on. Sit down. Sit down. -
18:36 - 18:39Oh, what's he so wise about?
I'm telling you. -
18:39 - 18:42- Okay, now come on.
- Now we're not gonna get anywhere fighting. -
18:42 - 18:43Whose turn is it next?
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18:43 - 18:48Oh, uh, his. Number five.
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18:48 - 18:52Okay, may I - Can I pass? It...
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18:52 - 18:54Well, uh, that's your privilege.
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18:54 - 18:57Uh, how about the next gentleman?
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18:57 - 19:00Oh. Well, uh, I don't know.
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19:00 - 19:05I started to be convinced, you know,
very early in the case. -
19:05 - 19:09You see, I was looking for a motive.
That's very important. -
19:09 - 19:13Because if you don't have a motive,
where's your case, right? -
19:13 - 19:17Anyway, that, uh, testimony
from those people... -
19:17 - 19:19in the apartment across the hall
from the kid's apartment... -
19:19 - 19:22that was very powerful.
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19:22 - 19:25Didn't they say something about a -
a fight and an argument... -
19:25 - 19:29between the old man and his son
around about, uh, 7:00 that night? -
19:29 - 19:32- I mean, I could be wrong, but I -
- It was 8:00. -
19:32 - 19:34It was 8:00. That's right.
They heard an argument. -
19:34 - 19:36They couldn't hear what it was about.
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19:36 - 19:38Then they heard
the father hit the boy twice. -
19:38 - 19:41Finally they saw the boy
run angrily out of the house. -
19:41 - 19:43What does that prove?
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19:43 - 19:46Well, it don't exactly prove anything.
It's just part of the picture. -
19:46 - 19:49Well, you said it provided a motive.
The prosecuting attorney said the same thing. -
19:49 - 19:52I don't think
that was a very strong motive. -
19:52 - 19:55This boy's been hit so many times in his
life that violence is practically a... -
19:55 - 19:58It's a normal state of affairs with him.
-
19:58 - 20:02I just - I can't see two slaps in the face
provoking him into committing murder. -
20:02 - 20:08It may have been two too many.
Everyone has a breaking point. -
20:08 - 20:11Anything else?
-
20:11 - 20:13- No.
- Okay. -
20:13 - 20:17Uh, how about you?
-
20:17 - 20:20I don't know. It's all been said.
-
20:20 - 20:24You can talk here forever.
It's still the same thing. -
20:24 - 20:27This kid is five for 0.
-
20:27 - 20:29Well, look at his record.
-
20:29 - 20:31When he was 10,
he was in children's court. -
20:31 - 20:33He threw a rock at a teacher.
-
20:33 - 20:36When he was 15, he was in reform school.
-
20:36 - 20:37He stole a car.
-
20:37 - 20:40He's been arrested for mugging.
-
20:40 - 20:42He was picked up twice for knife fighting.
-
20:42 - 20:44Oh, yeah, they say
he's real handy with a knife. -
20:44 - 20:47Oh, this is a very fine boy.
-
20:47 - 20:50Ever since he was five years old,
his father beat him up regularly. -
20:50 - 20:53- He used his fists.
- Well, so would I. -
20:53 - 20:54A kid like that?
-
20:54 - 21:00It's these kids, the way they are nowadays.
-
21:00 - 21:03When I was a kid,
I used to call my father "sir." -
21:03 - 21:05That's right. "Sir."
-
21:05 - 21:07Do you ever hear a kid
call his father that any more? -
21:07 - 21:11Fathers don't seem to think
it's important any more. -
21:11 - 21:14- You got any kids?
- Three. -
21:14 - 21:17I got one.
-
21:17 - 21:25Twenty-two years old.
-
21:25 - 21:29When he was nine years old,
he ran away from a fight. -
21:29 - 21:34I saw it. I was so embarrassed
I almost threw up. -
21:34 - 21:41I said, "I'm gonna make a man out of you
if I have to break you in two trying." -
21:41 - 21:44Well, I made a man out of him.
-
21:44 - 21:47When he was 16, we had a fight.
-
21:47 - 21:54Hit me in the jaw.
He was a big kid. -
21:54 - 21:58Haven't seen him for two years.
-
21:58 - 22:02Kids.
-
22:02 - 22:06Work your heart out.
-
22:06 - 22:08Well, let's get going.
-
22:08 - 22:10I think we're missing the point here.
-
22:10 - 22:13This boy, let's say he's the product
of a broken home and a filthy neighborhood. -
22:13 - 22:17We can't help that. We're here to decide
whether he's innocent or guilty... -
22:17 - 22:20not to go into the reasons
why he grew up the way he did. -
22:20 - 22:23He was born in a slum.
Slums are breeding grounds for criminals. -
22:23 - 22:25I know it, and so do you.
-
22:25 - 22:30It's no secret children from slum backgrounds
are potential menaces to society. -
22:30 - 22:32- Now I think -
- Brother, you can say that again. -
22:32 - 22:35The kids who crawl out of these places
are real trash. -
22:35 - 22:37- I don't want any part of them. I'm telling you.
- Listen, mister. Listen. -
22:37 - 22:41- I, uh - I've lived in a slum all my life.
- Wait a minute. -
22:41 - 22:44Please, I - I played in backyards
that were filled with garbage. -
22:44 - 22:46I mean, maybe you can still
smell it on me. -
22:46 - 22:48Now, listen, sonny.
-
22:48 - 22:49- Come on now.
- There's nothing personal about this. -
22:49 - 22:52- No, there was something personal.
- Aw, come on, fella. He didn't mean you. -
22:52 - 22:54Let's not be so sensitive.
-
22:54 - 22:56This sensitivity I can understand.
-
22:56 - 23:02Okay, look, let's stop the arguing.
We're only wasting time, and... -
23:02 - 23:05Look, your turn down there.
Let's go. -
23:05 - 23:08Oh, I didn't expect a turn. I thought
you were all gonna try to convince me. -
23:08 - 23:10- Wasn't that the idea?
- Check. That was the idea. -
23:10 - 23:12- Oh, I forgot about that. He's right.
- What difference does it make? -
23:12 - 23:15He's the one who's keeping us in here.
Let's hear what he's got to say. -
23:15 - 23:18Oh, now wait a minute.
We decided to do this a certain way. -
23:18 - 23:19I think we ought to stick to that way.
-
23:19 - 23:21Oh, stop being a kid, will you?
-
23:21 - 23:24- What do you mean "a kid"?
- What do you think I mean? -
23:24 - 23:28K-I-D. Kid.
-
23:28 - 23:32What? Listen, just because I'm trying
to keep this thing organized? -
23:32 - 23:34Here, you take it.
You take on the responsibility. -
23:34 - 23:36I'll just - I'll keep my mouth shut.
That's all. -
23:36 - 23:38What are you getting so hot about?
Calm down, will you? -
23:38 - 23:39Don't tell me to calm down.
-
23:39 - 23:41Here. You wanna take the chair,
just take the chair. That's all. -
23:41 - 23:44- Did you ever see such a thing?
- See if you can keep it running. -
23:44 - 23:46- Listen, you think it's funny or something?
- Hey, forget it, fella. -
23:46 - 23:48The whole thing's unimportant.
Come on. -
23:48 - 23:51- Unimportant? Oh, here, you try it.
- No, nobody wants to change. -
23:51 - 23:53You're doing a beautiful job.
Sit down. -
23:53 - 23:56Yeah, you're doing great.
Just great, fella. -
23:56 - 23:58You stay in there and pitch. You know?
-
23:58 - 24:02All right. Let's hear from somebody.
-
24:02 - 24:06Well, if you want me to tell you how I
feel about it, it's all right with me. -
24:06 - 24:09Boy, I don't care what you do.
-
24:09 - 24:12All right, I don't have anything brilliant.
-
24:12 - 24:14I only know as much as you do.
-
24:14 - 24:18According to the testimony,
the boy looks guilty. Maybe he is. -
24:18 - 24:22I sat there in court for six days
listening while the evidence built up. -
24:22 - 24:24Everybody sounded so positive, you know?
-
24:24 - 24:27I-I began to get a peculiar feeling
about this trial. -
24:27 - 24:29I mean, nothing is that positive.
-
24:29 - 24:31There are a lot of questions
I'd have liked to ask. -
24:31 - 24:34I don't know. Maybe they wouldn't
have meant anything, but... -
24:34 - 24:36I began to get the feeling
that the defense counsel... -
24:36 - 24:39wasn't conducting a thorough-enough
cross-examination. -
24:39 - 24:42I mean, he - he let too many things go by,
little things that... -
24:42 - 24:45What little things? Listen,
when these fellas don't ask questions... -
24:45 - 24:47it's because they know the answers already
and they figure they'll be hurt. -
24:47 - 24:51Maybe it's also possible for a lawyer
to be just plain stupid, isn't it? -
24:51 - 24:53I mean it's possible.
-
24:53 - 24:58You sound like you met
my brother-in-law once. -
24:58 - 25:02I - I kept putting myself
in the kid's place. -
25:02 - 25:04I'd have asked for another lawyer, I think.
-
25:04 - 25:07I mean, if I was on trial for my life...
-
25:07 - 25:12I'd want my lawyer to tear the prosecution
witnesses to shreds, or at least try to. -
25:12 - 25:16Look, there was one alleged eyewitness
to this killing. -
25:16 - 25:20Someone else claims he heard the killing,
saw the boy run out afterwards. -
25:20 - 25:22And there was a lot
of circumstantial evidence. -
25:22 - 25:26But actually, those two witnesses
were the entire case for the prosecution. -
25:26 - 25:27Supposing they're wrong.
-
25:27 - 25:29What do you mean
supposing they're wrong? -
25:29 - 25:31What's the point
of having witnesses at all? -
25:31 - 25:34- Could they be wrong?
- What are you trying to say? -
25:34 - 25:36Those people sat on the stand under oath.
-
25:36 - 25:37They're only people.
People make mistakes. -
25:37 - 25:40Could they be wrong?
-
25:40 - 25:42- Well, no, I don't think so.
- Do you know so? -
25:42 - 25:45Oh, come on.
Nobody can know a thing like that. -
25:45 - 25:46This isn't an exact science.
-
25:46 - 25:53That's right. It isn't.
-
25:53 - 25:56Okay, let - Let's get to the point.
-
25:56 - 25:58What about the switch knife
they found in the old man's chest? -
25:58 - 26:01Uh, wait-wait a minute.
There's some people who haven't talked yet. -
26:01 - 26:03- Shouldn't we go in order?
- They'll get a chance to talk. -
26:03 - 26:05Be quiet a second, will you?
-
26:05 - 26:07What about it, this...
-
26:07 - 26:10the knife this fine upright boy
admitted buying the night of the killing? -
26:10 - 26:11Let's talk about it.
-
26:11 - 26:14All right, let's talk about it.
Let's get it in here and look at it. -
26:14 - 26:16I'd like to see it again.
Mr. Foreman? -
26:16 - 26:19- We all saw what it looks like.
- Why do we have to see it again? -
26:19 - 26:23The gentleman has a right
to see exhibits in evidence. -
26:23 - 26:25Say, could you bring us the knife?
-
26:25 - 26:28- Knife?
- Yeah. Thank you. -
26:28 - 26:32The knife and the way it was bought
is pretty strong evidence, don't you think? -
26:32 - 26:33- I do.
- Good. -
26:33 - 26:36Now, suppose we take these facts
one at a time. -
26:36 - 26:39One. The boy admitted going out of the house
at 8:00 on the night of the murder... -
26:39 - 26:41after being slapped several times
by his father. -
26:41 - 26:44No, no. No, he didn't say "slapped."
He said "punched." -
26:44 - 26:47There's a difference
between a slap and a punch. -
26:47 - 26:49After being hit several times
by his father. -
26:49 - 26:52Two. He went directly
to a neighborhood junk shop... -
26:52 - 26:54- where he bought one of those -
- Switch knives. -
26:54 - 26:55Switchblade knives.
-
26:55 - 26:58This wasn't what you'd call
an ordinary knife. -
26:58 - 27:00It had a very unusual carved handle
and blade. -
27:00 - 27:02The storekeeper who sold it to him...
-
27:02 - 27:05said it was the only one of its kind
he had ever had in stock. -
27:05 - 27:09Three. He met some friends of his
in front of a tavern about 8:45. -
27:09 - 27:11Am I right so far?
-
27:11 - 27:13- Yes, you are.
- You bet he is. -
27:13 - 27:16He talked with his friends for about
an hour, leaving them at 9:45. -
27:16 - 27:19During this time,
they saw the switch knife. -
27:19 - 27:21Four.
-
27:21 - 27:24They identified the death weapon
in court... -
27:24 - 27:26as that very same knife.
-
27:26 - 27:29Five. Ηe arrived home at about 10:00.
-
27:29 - 27:31Now this is where the stories
offered by the State and the boy... -
27:31 - 27:33begin to diverge slightly.
-
27:33 - 27:36He claims that he went to a movie
at about 11:30... -
27:36 - 27:40returning home at 3:10 to find his
father dead and himself arrested. -
27:40 - 27:42He also claims that
the two detectives who arrested him... -
27:42 - 27:45threw him down a half a flight of stairs.
-
27:45 - 27:47Now, what happened to the switch knife?
-
27:47 - 27:49He claims that it fell through a hole
in his pocket on the way to the movies... -
27:49 - 27:54sometime between 11:30 and 3:10
and that he never saw it again. -
27:54 - 27:56Now there's a tale, gentlemen.
-
27:56 - 28:00I think it's quite clear that the boy
never went to the movies that night. -
28:00 - 28:02No one in the house
saw him go out at 11:30. -
28:02 - 28:03No one at the theater identified him.
-
28:03 - 28:09He couldn't even remember
the names of the pictures he saw. -
28:09 - 28:10- What actually happened is this.
- Thank you. -
28:10 - 28:13The boy stayed home,
had another fight with his father... -
28:13 - 28:17stabbed him to death and left the
house at 10 minutes after 12:00. -
28:17 - 28:20He even remembered to wipe the knife
clean of fingerprints. -
28:20 - 28:23Now are you trying to tell me
that this knife... -
28:23 - 28:25really fell through a hole
in the boy's pocket... -
28:25 - 28:27someone picked it up off the street,
went to the boy's house... -
28:27 - 28:30and stabbed his father with it
just to test its sharpness? -
28:30 - 28:32No. I'm just saying it's possible
the boy lost his knife... -
28:32 - 28:35and that somebody else stabbed his father
with a similar knife. -
28:35 - 28:36It's just possible.
-
28:36 - 28:39Take a look at this knife.
-
28:39 - 28:42It's a very unusual knife.
-
28:42 - 28:43I've never seen one like it.
-
28:43 - 28:46Neither had the storekeeper
who sold it to the boy. -
28:46 - 28:49Aren't you asking us to accept
a pretty incredible coincidence? -
28:49 - 28:52I'm just saying a coincidence is possible.
-
28:52 - 28:59And I say it's not possible.
-
28:59 - 29:02Where did that come from?
-
29:02 - 29:03- Where'd you get that?
- It's the same knife. -
29:03 - 29:05What do you think you're doing?
-
29:05 - 29:06Where did you get it?
-
29:06 - 29:09I went out walking
for a couple of hours last night. -
29:09 - 29:11I walked through the boy's neighborhood.
-
29:11 - 29:14I bought that at a little pawnshop
just two blocks from the boy's house. -
29:14 - 29:15It cost six dollars.
-
29:15 - 29:18It's against the law
to buy or sell switchblade knives. -
29:18 - 29:21That's right. I broke the law.
-
29:21 - 29:25Listen, you pulled a real bright trick.
Now, supposing you tell me what it proves. -
29:25 - 29:27Maybe there are 10 knives like that.
So what? -
29:27 - 29:30- Maybe there are.
- Well, what does it mean? -
29:30 - 29:33You found another knife like it.
What's that, the discovery of the age or something? -
29:33 - 29:36You mean you're asking us to believe
that somebody else did the stabbing... -
29:36 - 29:38with exactly the same kind of knife?
-
29:38 - 29:39The odds are a million-to-one.
-
29:39 - 29:42- It's possible.
- But not very probable. -
29:42 - 29:45Okay, fellas, let's take our seats.
-
29:45 - 29:49There's no point in standing around
all over the place. -
29:49 - 29:52You know, it's interesting that he'd find a
knife exactly like the one the boy bought. -
29:52 - 29:55What's interesting about it?
"Interesting." -
29:55 - 29:57Well, I don't know.
I just thought it was interesting. -
29:57 - 29:59There are still 11 of us here
who think he's guilty. -
29:59 - 30:01- Right.
- What do you think you're gonna accomplish? -
30:01 - 30:03You're not gonna change anybody's mind.
-
30:03 - 30:06So if you wanna be stubborn
and hang this jury, go ahead. -
30:06 - 30:10The kid will be tried again
and found guilty sure as he's born. -
30:10 - 30:12That's probably right.
-
30:12 - 30:16So what are you gonna do?
You know, we could be here all night. -
30:16 - 30:19It's only one night. A boy may die.
-
30:19 - 30:21Well, why don't we just
set up house here, huh? -
30:21 - 30:24Someone send for Potsy the policeman
and get a pinochle deck... -
30:24 - 30:28and, uh, we'll just
sweat the whole thing out right here. -
30:28 - 30:31- I don't think he ought to joke about it.
- What do you want me to do about it? -
30:31 - 30:35Oh, listen! I don't see what all this stuff
about the knife's got to do with anything. -
30:35 - 30:37Somebody saw the kid stab his father.
What more do we need? -
30:37 - 30:41You guys can talk the ears right off my head.
You know what I mean? -
30:41 - 30:44I got three garages of mine goin' to pot
while you're talking. -
30:44 - 30:45So let's get done and get outta here.
-
30:45 - 30:49The knife was very important to the
district attorney. He spent a whole day... -
30:49 - 30:51He's a 15th assistant or something.
What does he know about it? -
30:51 - 30:53Hey, let's hold it down.
-
30:53 - 30:58These side arguments
are only slowing us up. -
30:58 - 31:00Well, what about it?
-
31:00 - 31:09You're the only one.
-
31:09 - 31:12I have a proposition
to make to all of you. -
31:12 - 31:15I'm gonna call for another vote.
-
31:15 - 31:21I want you 11 men to vote
by secret written ballot. -
31:21 - 31:23I'll abstain.
-
31:23 - 31:26If there are 11 votes for guilty,
I won't stand alone. -
31:26 - 31:31We'll take in a guilty verdict
to the judge right now. -
31:31 - 31:37But if anyone votes not guilty,
we stay here and talk it out. -
31:37 - 31:41Well, that's it.
If you want to try it, I'm ready. -
31:41 - 31:43All right. Let's do it the hard way.
-
31:43 - 31:45Okay, that sounds fair.
Everyone agreed? -
31:45 - 31:47- Anyone doesn't agree?
- Fine, fine. Let's go. -
31:47 - 31:48Here, pass these along.
-
31:48 - 32:22Is that the right time?
-
32:22 - 32:52"Guilty."
-
32:52 - 32:54"Not guilty."
-
32:54 - 32:56"Guilty."
-
32:56 - 32:58Boy, how do you like that?
-
32:58 - 33:00Oh, and another chap flaps his wings.
-
33:00 - 33:03All right, who was it?
Come on. I want to know. -
33:03 - 33:05Excuse me. This was a secret ballot.
-
33:05 - 33:06We all agreed on that, no?
-
33:06 - 33:09If the gentleman wanted
to remain secret... -
33:09 - 33:11Secret? What do you mean secret?
-
33:11 - 33:15There are no secrets in a jury room.
I know who it was. -
33:15 - 33:17Brother, you really are something.
-
33:17 - 33:19You sit here, vote guilty
like the rest of us... -
33:19 - 33:22and then some golden-voiced preacher
starts tearin' your poor heart out... -
33:22 - 33:26about some underprivileged kid
just couldn't help becomin' a murderer... -
33:26 - 33:27and you change your vote.
-
33:27 - 33:30If that isn't the most sick...
-
33:30 - 33:33Why don't you drop a quarter
in his collection box? -
33:33 - 33:35Oh, now just wait a minute.
-
33:35 - 33:37Listen, you can't talk to me like that.
-
33:37 - 33:39- No. Who do you think you are?
- Calm down. Calm down. -
33:39 - 33:41No. Who does he think he is?
Did you hear him? -
33:41 - 33:45- It doesn't matter. He's very excitable. Sit down.
- Excitable? You bet I'm excitable! -
33:45 - 33:48We're trying to put a guilty man
in the chair where he belongs! -
33:48 - 33:51Someone starts telling us fairy tales,
and we're listenin'! -
33:51 - 33:52Hey, uh, come on, huh?
-
33:52 - 33:54What made you change your vote?
-
33:54 - 33:56He didn't change his vote.
-
33:56 - 33:57I did.
-
33:57 - 33:59- Oh, fine.
- I knew it. -
33:59 - 34:01Would you like me to tell you why?
-
34:01 - 34:03No, I wouldn't like you to tell me why.
-
34:03 - 34:06I'd like to make it clear anyway,
if you don't mind. -
34:06 - 34:08Do we have to listen to this?
-
34:08 - 34:10The man wants to talk.
-
34:10 - 34:11Thank you.
-
34:11 - 34:15This gentleman has been
standing alone against us. -
34:15 - 34:17Now, he doesn't say
the boy is not guilty. -
34:17 - 34:19He just isn't sure.
-
34:19 - 34:22Well, it's not easy to stand alone
against the ridicule of others. -
34:22 - 34:25So he gambled for support,
and I gave it to him. -
34:25 - 34:26I respect his motives.
-
34:26 - 34:31The boy on trial is probably guilty,
but, uh, I want to hear more. -
34:31 - 34:33Right now, the vote is 10 to two.
-
34:33 - 34:36I'm talking here!
You have no right to leave this room! -
34:36 - 34:38He can't hear you. He never will.
-
34:38 - 34:43Let's sit down.
-
34:43 - 34:46Shall we continue?
-
34:46 - 34:48Well, I - I think we ought
to take a break. -
34:48 - 34:52You know, one man's inside,
and I think we ought to wait for him. -
34:52 - 34:55Okay.
-
34:55 - 34:58Looks like we're really
hung up here, huh? -
34:58 - 35:03And that thing with the old man,
that was pretty unexpected. -
35:03 - 35:08I wish I could figure out some way
we could break it up. -
35:08 - 35:12You know, in advertising -
I told you I worked in an agency. -
35:12 - 35:13Mm-hmm.
-
35:13 - 35:15Well, there's some pretty strange people
working there. -
35:15 - 35:17Well, they're not strange really, I guess.
-
35:17 - 35:20It's just that they have peculiar ways
of expressing themselves. -
35:20 - 35:21You know what I mean.
-
35:21 - 35:24Of course, I suppose it's the same
in your business too, huh? -
35:24 - 35:26What do you do?
-
35:26 - 35:28- I'm a watchmaker.
- Oh, really? -
35:28 - 35:32Well, I imagine the finest watchmakers
in the world come from Europe, huh? -
35:32 - 35:35Anyway, as I was telling you, in an
agency, when we reach a point like this... -
35:35 - 35:38I'm telling him about, in an ad agency, when
a point like this is reached in a meeting... -
35:38 - 35:41there's always some character
ready with an idea, see. -
35:41 - 35:43And it kills me.
-
35:43 - 35:45It's the weirdest thing in the world...
-
35:45 - 35:48the way they sometimes precede their idea
with a little phrase, see, like... -
35:48 - 35:51Some account exec will get up,
and he'll say, uh... -
35:51 - 35:53"Okay, here's an idea.
-
35:53 - 35:57Let's, uh, run it up the flagpole
and see if anyone salutes it." -
35:57 - 36:00I mean, it's idiotic, but it's funny, huh?
-
36:00 - 36:05I, uh
- I got a little excited back there. I... -
36:05 - 36:08didn't mean to get nasty.
-
36:08 - 36:13I'm glad you're not one of those
lets these emotional appeals influence him. -
36:13 - 36:28Uh...
-
36:28 - 36:32I don't know what's the matter with that fan.
Can't seem to get it to start. -
36:32 - 36:35♪ Be, be, be ♪
-
36:35 - 36:38♪ Ba, ba, ba, ba, bum ♪♪
-
36:38 - 36:41Eh!
-
36:41 - 36:43Hey, you a salesman?
-
36:43 - 36:45I'm an architect.
-
36:45 - 36:47Hmm.
-
36:47 - 36:52You know what the soft sell is?
-
36:52 - 36:55Boy, you got it. Believe me.
-
36:55 - 36:58I got a different technique.
-
36:58 - 37:00Laughs, drinks, jokes.
-
37:00 - 37:03Tricks. You know?
-
37:03 - 37:06Yeah.
-
37:06 - 37:09"Hit 'em where they live."
That's my motto. -
37:09 - 37:13I made 27 grand last year
sellin' marmalade. -
37:13 - 37:19That's not bad. I mean,
you know, considering marmalade. -
37:19 - 37:23Hey, what are you
gettin' outta this - kicks? -
37:23 - 37:25Or did somebody bump you on the head
one time and you haven't gotten over it? -
37:25 - 37:28Maybe.
-
37:28 - 37:31You know, you do-gooders are all alike.
-
37:31 - 37:36You're always blowing your stacks
over some guy that fanned. -
37:36 - 37:39But what are you wasting our time for?
-
37:39 - 37:46Why don't you donate five dollars to the
cause, and maybe it'll make you feel better. -
37:46 - 37:49This kid is guilty, pal.
-
37:49 - 37:51It's as plain as the nose on your face.
-
37:51 - 37:54So why don't we stop
wasting our time here? -
37:54 - 37:57We're gonna all get sore throats
if we keep it up, you know? -
37:57 - 38:00What difference does it make
if you get it here or at the ball game? -
38:00 - 38:03Oh, no difference, pal.
-
38:03 - 38:17No difference at all.
-
38:17 - 38:19Nice bunch of guys, huh?
-
38:19 - 38:21Oh, they're about the same
as anyone else. -
38:21 - 38:25Phew! Boy, what a murderous day.
-
38:25 - 38:27You think we'll be much longer?
-
38:27 - 38:29I don't know.
-
38:29 - 38:31Aw, he's guilty for sure.
-
38:31 - 38:32Not a doubt in the whole world.
-
38:32 - 38:37We should -
Should've been done already. -
38:37 - 38:38Oh, I don't mind, you know.
-
38:38 - 38:44Hmm. Beats workin'.
-
38:44 - 38:48Uh...
-
38:48 - 38:50You think he's not guilty, huh?
-
38:50 - 38:53I don't know. It's possible.
-
38:53 - 38:57Well, I don't know you, but I'm bettin'
you never been wronger in your life. -
38:57 - 38:59You're wasting your time.
You ought to wrap it up. -
38:59 - 39:02Supposing you were the one
who was on trial. -
39:02 - 39:04Well, I'm not used to supposing.
-
39:04 - 39:09I'm just a workingman.
My boss does the supposing. But... -
39:09 - 39:11Well, I'll try one.
-
39:11 - 39:26Supposing you talk us all out of this, and,
uh, the kid really did knife his father. Huh? -
39:26 - 39:27Are you ready?
-
39:27 - 39:29Hup.
-
39:29 - 39:30That one.
-
39:30 - 39:32Sorry, blue eyes.
-
39:32 - 39:36- Well, where else -
- Okay, fellas, let's take our seats. -
39:36 - 39:38Looks like we'll be here
for dinner, huh? -
39:38 - 39:40Okay, now let's -
Let's get down to business. -
39:40 - 39:42Now, who wants to start it off?
-
39:42 - 39:43- I would.
- Okay, go. -
39:43 - 39:45You down there.
-
39:45 - 39:49The old man who lived downstairs says he
heard the kid yell out, "I'm gonna kill ya." -
39:49 - 39:52A second later,
he heard the body hit the floor. -
39:52 - 39:56Now, he ran to the door and he saw the kid
running down the stairs and out of the house. -
39:56 - 39:57What does that mean to you?
-
39:57 - 40:01I was wondering how clearly the old man could
have heard the boy's voice through the ceiling. -
40:01 - 40:03He didn't hear it through the ceiling.
The window was open. -
40:03 - 40:05So was the one upstairs.
It was a hot night, remember? -
40:05 - 40:06Well, it was another apartment.
-
40:06 - 40:08It's not that easy to identify a voice,
particularly a shouting voice. -
40:08 - 40:11- He identified it in court.
- That's right. -
40:11 - 40:12And don't forget the lady
across the street. -
40:12 - 40:15She looked right in the open window
and saw the boy stab his father. -
40:15 - 40:18- Now, I mean, isn't that enough for you?
- No, it isn't. -
40:18 - 40:20Boy, how do you like this guy, huh?
-
40:20 - 40:22It's like talking into a dead phone.
-
40:22 - 40:25She said she saw the killing through the
windows of a moving elevated train. -
40:25 - 40:28There were six cars on the train.
She saw the killing through the last two cars. -
40:28 - 40:30She remembered
the most insignificant details. -
40:30 - 40:32I don't see how you can argue with that.
-
40:32 - 40:46Has anybody here any idea
how long it would take an el... -
40:46 - 40:47Hey!
-
40:47 - 40:53This isn't a game.
-
40:53 - 40:55- Did you see him?
- Hey. -
40:55 - 40:57- The nerve.
- All right, listen... -
40:57 - 41:01- The absolute nerve.
- Forget it. It's not important. -
41:01 - 41:02- "This isn't a game"?
- Calm down. -
41:02 - 41:06- Who does he think he is?
- I'm telling you, forget it now. -
41:06 - 41:10Has anybody any idea how long
it takes an elevated train... -
41:10 - 41:11going at medium speed
to pass a given point? -
41:11 - 41:13- What has that to do with anything?
- How long? Take a guess. -
41:13 - 41:16- I wouldn't have the slightest idea.
- What do you think? -
41:16 - 41:19I don't know. Maybe 10, 12 seconds?
-
41:19 - 41:21I think that's a pretty good guess.
Anyone else? -
41:21 - 41:23- That sounds right to me.
- Come on. What's the guessing game for? -
41:23 - 41:26- What do you say?
- Ten seconds is about right. -
41:26 - 41:27All right. Say 10 seconds.
What are you getting at? -
41:27 - 41:32This. It takes a six-car el train
10 seconds to pass a given point. -
41:32 - 41:37Now let's say the given point is the open window
of the room where the killing took place. -
41:37 - 41:40You can reach out of that window
and almost touch the el tracks, right? -
41:40 - 41:42Now let me ask you this.
-
41:42 - 41:44Has anyone here
ever lived near the el tracks? -
41:44 - 41:48Well, uh, I just finished painting an
apartment that overlooked an el line. -
41:48 - 41:50- I was there for three days.
- What was it like? -
41:50 - 41:51- What do you mean?
- Noisy? -
41:51 - 41:53Oh, brother. Don't matter though.
We were all punchy. -
41:53 - 41:56I lived in a second-floor apartment
near the el line once. -
41:56 - 42:00When the window was open and the train
goes by, the noise is almost unbearable. -
42:00 - 42:02- You can hardly hear yourself think.
- All right, you can't hear yourself think. -
42:02 - 42:05- Will you get to the point?
- I will. Now just a minute. -
42:05 - 42:09Let's take two pieces of testimony
and try to put them together. -
42:09 - 42:13First. The old man in the
apartment downstairs. -
42:13 - 42:15He says he heard the boy say
"I'm gonna kill you"... -
42:15 - 42:18and a split second later
heard a body hit the floor. -
42:18 - 42:20- One second later, right?
- That's right. -
42:20 - 42:26Second. The woman across the street swore
positively she looked out of the window... -
42:26 - 42:30and saw the killing through the last two
cars of the passing elevated train, right? -
42:30 - 42:32- The last two cars.
- What are you giving us here? -
42:32 - 42:33Now, just a minute.
-
42:33 - 42:39We've agreed that it takes 10 seconds
for a train to pass a given point. -
42:39 - 42:42Since the woman saw the killing
through the last two cars... -
42:42 - 42:47we can assume that the body
hit the floor just as the train went by. -
42:47 - 42:52Therefore, the train had been roaring
by the old man's window... -
42:52 - 42:55a full 10 seconds
before the body hit the floor. -
42:55 - 42:57The old man,
according to his own testimony... -
42:57 - 43:00"I'm gonna kill you," body hitting
the floor a split second later... -
43:00 - 43:03would have had to hear the boy
make this statement... -
43:03 - 43:05with the el roaring past his nose.
-
43:05 - 43:07It's not possible he could've heard it.
-
43:07 - 43:09- That's idiotic. Of course he heard it.
- Do you think he could've heard it? -
43:09 - 43:11He said he yelled at the top of his voice.
That's good enough for me. -
43:11 - 43:14Even if he heard something, he still
couldn't have identified the voice. -
43:14 - 43:15With the el roaring by?
-
43:15 - 43:17You're talking about a matter of seconds!
Nobody can be that accurate. -
43:17 - 43:24I think testimony that could put a boy into
the electric chair should be that accurate. -
43:24 - 43:26You know something?
I don't think he could've heard it. -
43:26 - 43:29Maybe he didn't hear it.
I mean, with all that el noise. -
43:29 - 43:31Oh, what are you people talking about?
-
43:31 - 43:33Well, it stands to reason
he couldn't have heard it. -
43:33 - 43:35Why should he lie?
What's he got to gain? -
43:35 - 43:36Attention maybe.
-
43:36 - 43:39You keep coming in
with these bright sayings! -
43:39 - 43:42Why don't you send 'em in to a paper?
They pay three dollars apiece. -
43:42 - 43:45What are you talking to him
like that for? -
43:45 - 43:49Guy talks like that to an old man
really ought to get stepped on, you know? -
43:49 - 43:52You ought to have more respect, mister.
-
43:52 - 44:06If you say stuff like that to him again,
I'm gonna lay you out. -
44:06 - 44:09Now you go ahead.
You - You say anything you like. -
44:09 - 44:13Why do you think
the old man might lie? -
44:13 - 44:17It was just that I looked at him
for a very long time. -
44:17 - 44:21The seams of his jacket was split,
under the shoulder. -
44:21 - 44:22Or did you notice that?
-
44:22 - 44:25I mean, to come to court like that.
-
44:25 - 44:27Why...
-
44:27 - 44:32He was a very old man
in a torn jacket. -
44:32 - 44:35And he walked very slowly
to the stand. -
44:35 - 44:39He was dragging his left leg
and trying to hide it... -
44:39 - 44:42because he was ashamed.
-
44:42 - 44:47I think I know this man
better than anyone here. -
44:47 - 44:52This is a quiet, frightened,
insignificant old man who... -
44:52 - 44:55who has been nothing all his life...
-
44:55 - 44:57who has never had recognition...
-
44:57 - 45:00or his name in the newspapers.
-
45:00 - 45:02Nobody knows him.
-
45:02 - 45:04Nobody quotes him.
-
45:04 - 45:09Nobody seeks his advice after 75 years.
-
45:09 - 45:14Gentlemen, that's a very sad thing -
to be nothing. -
45:14 - 45:19A man like this needs to be quoted,
to be listened to. -
45:19 - 45:21To be quoted just once.
-
45:21 - 45:23Very important to him.
-
45:23 - 45:26It would be so hard for him
to recede into the background... -
45:26 - 45:27- Wait a minute.
- When there was a chance... -
45:27 - 45:30What are you trying to do - tell us he'd
lie just so he could be important once? -
45:30 - 45:32No. He wouldn't really lie.
-
45:32 - 45:37But perhaps he made himself believe
he heard those words... -
45:37 - 45:38and recognized the boy's face.
-
45:38 - 45:41That's the most fantastic story
I've ever heard. -
45:41 - 45:53How can you make up a thing like that?
What do you know about it? -
45:53 - 45:55Oh, uh, does anybody
want a cough drop? -
45:55 - 45:58- No, thanks.
- I'll take one. -
45:58 - 46:01You can say what you like. I still don't
see how anybody can think he's not guilty. -
46:01 - 46:04There's something else
I'd like to talk about for a minute. -
46:04 - 46:06Thanks.
-
46:06 - 46:09I think we've proved that the old man couldn't
have heard the boy say "I'm gonna kill you." -
46:09 - 46:11- But supposing -
- You didn't prove it at all. -
46:11 - 46:14- What are you talking about?
- Supposing he really did hear it. -
46:14 - 46:16This phrase, how many times
have all of us used it? -
46:16 - 46:17Probably thousands.
-
46:17 - 46:19"I could kill you for that, darling."
-
46:19 - 46:21"Junior, you do that once more,
and I'm gonna kill you." -
46:21 - 46:23"Get in there, Rocky, and kill him."
-
46:23 - 46:25We say it every day. That doesn't mean
we're really gonna kill anybody. -
46:25 - 46:27Wait a minute.
What are you trying to give us here? -
46:27 - 46:30The phrase was "I'm gonna kill you."
The kid yelled it at the top of his lungs. -
46:30 - 46:32Don't tell me he didn't mean it.
-
46:32 - 46:34Anybody says a thing like that
the way he said it, they mean it. -
46:34 - 46:35Well, gee, now I don't know.
-
46:35 - 46:41I remember I was arguing with a guy I work
next to at the bank a couple weeks ago. -
46:41 - 46:42He called me an idiot, so I yelled at him.
-
46:42 - 46:45Now listen! This guy's trying to make you
believe things that aren't so. -
46:45 - 46:48The kid said he was gonna kill him,
and he did kill him. -
46:48 - 46:50Let me ask you this. Do you really think the
boy would shout out a thing like that... -
46:50 - 46:52so the whole neighborhood could hear him?
-
46:52 - 46:54I don't think so.
He's much too bright for that. -
46:54 - 46:59Bright? He's a common ignorant slob.
He don't even speak good English. -
46:59 - 47:04"He doesn't even speak good English."
-
47:04 - 47:08Mr. Foreman, I'd like
to change my vote to not guilty. -
47:08 - 47:10You what?
-
47:10 - 47:13- You heard me.
- Are you sure? -
47:13 - 47:15Yeah, I'm sure.
-
47:15 - 47:17The vote is nine to three,
favor of guilty. -
47:17 - 47:24Well, if this isn't the living end. Huh?
-
47:24 - 47:28What are you basing it on -
the stories this guy made up? -
47:28 - 47:30You ought to write for one of those
kooky detective magazines. -
47:30 - 47:32You'd make a fortune.
-
47:32 - 47:35For crying out loud. The kid's own lawyer
knew he didn't stand a chance. -
47:35 - 47:37Right from the beginning,
his own lawyer knew it. -
47:37 - 47:39You could see it.
-
47:39 - 47:44Boy, oh, boy. I'm tellin' you,
this guy here is really something. -
47:44 - 47:46Look, the kid had a lawyer, didn't he?
-
47:46 - 47:49He presented his case, not you.
How come you got so much to say? -
47:49 - 47:51- Look, lawyers aren't infallible, you know.
- Baltimore, please. Huh? -
47:51 - 47:53He was court-appointed.
-
47:53 - 47:55- What's that supposed to mean?
- It could mean a lot of things. -
47:55 - 47:59It could mean he didn't want the case,
or he resented being appointed. -
47:59 - 48:00It's the kind of case
that brings him nothing... -
48:00 - 48:03no money, no glory,
not even much chance of winning. -
48:03 - 48:06That's not a very promising situation
for a young lawyer. -
48:06 - 48:09He'd really have to believe in his client
to put up any kind of a good case... -
48:09 - 48:12and, as you pointed out a minute ago,
obviously he didn't. -
48:12 - 48:14Of course he didn't. Huh.
-
48:14 - 48:17Who the heck could?
-
48:17 - 48:20Except maybe
some guy's mother or somebody. I... -
48:20 - 48:22Ah, look.
Will you look at the time, huh? -
48:22 - 48:25- Come on. For crying out -
- Pardon me. -
48:25 - 48:27- I have made some notes here -
- Notes. -
48:27 - 48:30And I would like to -
please, to say something. -
48:30 - 48:32- Yeah.
- I have been listening very carefully. -
48:32 - 48:37And, uh, it seems to me that this man
has some very good points to make. -
48:37 - 48:42From what was presented at the trial,
the boy looks guilty on the surface. -
48:42 - 48:46- But maybe if we go deeper?
- Oh, come on, will ya? -
48:46 - 48:48There is a question I would like to ask.
-
48:48 - 48:51Let us assume that the boy
really did commit the murder. -
48:51 - 48:55Now, this happened
at 10 minutes after 12:00. -
48:55 - 48:57Now, how was he caught by the police?
-
48:57 - 49:02He came back home, uh, at 3:00 or so...
-
49:02 - 49:06and he was captured by two detectives
in the hallway of his house. -
49:06 - 49:10Now, my question is,
if he really had killed his father... -
49:10 - 49:14why would he come back home
three hours later? -
49:14 - 49:17Wouldn't he be afraid of being caught?
-
49:17 - 49:19He came home to get his knife.
-
49:19 - 49:21It's not nice to go around leaving knives
sticking in people's chests. -
49:21 - 49:24- Yeah, especially relatives.
- Yeah. -
49:24 - 49:26I don't see anything funny about it.
-
49:26 - 49:30The boy knew the knife could be identified
as the one he had just bought. -
49:30 - 49:32He had to get it before the police did.
-
49:32 - 49:37But if he knew the knife could be identified,
why did he leave it there in the first place? -
49:37 - 49:40Well, I think we can assume
the boy ran out in a state of panic... -
49:40 - 49:43after having just killed his father.
-
49:43 - 49:46When he finally calmed down,
he realized he had left his knife there. -
49:46 - 49:49Ah. This then depends
on your definition of panic. -
49:49 - 49:51He would have had to be
calm enough to see to it... -
49:51 - 49:54that there were no fingerprints
left on the knife. -
49:54 - 49:58Now, where did this panic start
and where did it end? -
49:58 - 50:00Look, you voted guilty.
What side are ya on? -
50:00 - 50:04I don't believe I have to be loyal
to one side or the other. -
50:04 - 50:06I'm simply asking questions.
-
50:06 - 50:09Well, this is just off the top of my head,
but, uh... -
50:09 - 50:12well, if I were the boy
and I'd done the stabbing and everything... -
50:12 - 50:14I'd take a chance
and go back for the knife. -
50:14 - 50:16I'll bet he figured that nobody
had seen him running out... -
50:16 - 50:19and that the body wouldn't be discovered
till the next day. -
50:19 - 50:21Well, after all,
it was the middle of the night. -
50:21 - 50:24I'll bet he'd figured nobody
would find the body till the next day. -
50:24 - 50:26Pardon. This is my whole point.
-
50:26 - 50:29The woman across the street testified that
the moment after she saw the killing... -
50:29 - 50:32that is, a moment
after the train went by... -
50:32 - 50:35she screamed
and then went to telephone the police. -
50:35 - 50:39Now, the boy certainly
must have heard the scream... -
50:39 - 50:42so he knew
that somebody saw something. -
50:42 - 50:45I just don't think
that he would have gone back. -
50:45 - 50:48Two things. One, in his state of panic,
he may not have heard the scream. -
50:48 - 50:49Perhaps it wasn't very loud.
-
50:49 - 50:53Two, if he did hear it, he may not
have connected it with his own act. -
50:53 - 50:56Remember, he lived in a neighborhood
where screams were fairly commonplace. -
50:56 - 50:59- There's your answer.
- Maybe. -
50:59 - 51:02Maybe the boy did kill his father,
didn't hear the scream... -
51:02 - 51:06did run out in a panic,
did calm down three hours later... -
51:06 - 51:08and come back to get the knife,
risking being caught by the police. -
51:08 - 51:11Maybe all of those things happened,
but maybe they didn't. -
51:11 - 51:14I think there's enough doubt that we can
wonder whether he was there at all... -
51:14 - 51:16during the time the killing took place.
-
51:16 - 51:18What do you mean doubt?
What are you talking about? -
51:18 - 51:20Didn't the old man see him
running out of the house? -
51:20 - 51:22He's twisting the facts, I'm telling you.
-
51:22 - 51:25Did or didn't the old man see the kid
running out of the house at 12:10? -
51:25 - 51:27Well, did or didn't he?
-
51:27 - 51:30- He says he did.
- "Says he did"? Boy! How do you like that? -
51:30 - 51:33- Now, look, witnesses can make mistakes.
- Sure, when you want them to, they do. -
51:33 - 51:36Or when he wants them to, they do.
You know what I mean? -
51:36 - 51:38- Keep the yelling down!
- Oh, you keep saying that. -
51:38 - 51:39Maybe what we need
is a little yelling in here. -
51:39 - 51:41These guys
keep going off every which way. -
51:41 - 51:43Did hear the scream.
Didn't hear the scream. -
51:43 - 51:46What difference does it make? You people
are talking only about the little details. -
51:46 - 51:49You're forgetting the important stuff.
I mean, all of a sudden, everybody here... -
51:49 - 51:51- I want to call for another vote.
- I'm talking here! -
51:51 - 51:59There's another vote called for.
Now let's take our seats. -
51:59 - 52:01I never saw so much time
spent on nothing. -
52:01 - 52:04It only takes a second.
-
52:04 - 52:08Okay. I guess the fastest way
is to find out who's voting not guilty. -
52:08 - 52:12Now, all those voting not guilty,
please raise your hands. -
52:12 - 52:16Still the same.
One, two, three not guilty. Nine guilty. -
52:16 - 52:17So, now where are we?
-
52:17 - 52:21I'm telling you, we can yackety-yack until
next Tuesday. Where's it all getting us? -
52:21 - 52:24Pardon. I vote not guilty.
-
52:24 - 52:27Oh!
-
52:27 - 52:30What are ya talking about? I mean,
we're all going crazy in here or something. -
52:30 - 52:34The kid is guilty.
Why don't you listen to the facts? -
52:34 - 52:36Tell him, will ya?
Now this is getting to be a joke. -
52:36 - 52:40The vote is eight to four,
favor of guilty. -
52:40 - 52:43What is this, love your underprivileged
brother week or something? -
52:43 - 52:46I want you to get up and tell me
why you changed your vote. -
52:46 - 52:50- Come on. Give me your reasons.
- I don't have to defend my decision to you. -
52:50 - 52:52There is a reasonable doubt in my mind.
-
52:52 - 52:55What reasonable doubt? That's nothing but words.
Here, look at this. -
52:55 - 53:00The kid you just decided isn't guilty
was seen ramming this into his father. -
53:00 - 53:02Now, what about this,
Mr. Reasonable Doubt? -
53:02 - 53:05That's not the knife.
Don't you remember? -
53:05 - 53:07Oh, brilliant.
-
53:07 - 53:10I'm telling ya, this is the craziest.
-
53:10 - 53:12I mean, what are we supposed to believe?
-
53:12 - 53:15I mean, you're sittin' here, you're pulling
stories out of thin air, you know? -
53:15 - 53:19A guy like this, if he's, uh, sitting
ringside at the Dempsey-Firpo fight... -
53:19 - 53:21he'd be trying to tell you that, uh...
-
53:21 - 53:24Look. Now, what about the old man?
-
53:24 - 53:26Are we supposed to believe that he
didn't get up and run to his door... -
53:26 - 53:29and see the kid tearing down the steps
15 seconds after the killing? -
53:29 - 53:32He's just saying so to be important, right?
-
53:32 - 53:35- I mean, what's the point of the whole thing?
- Wait. Hold it a second, will you? -
53:35 - 53:37Oh, and the Baltimore rooter
is heard from again now... -
53:37 - 53:39and pop-ups are fallin' for base hits
wherever we look. -
53:39 - 53:43Hold it a second. Now, look -
Did the old man say he ran to the door? -
53:43 - 53:46Ran, walked. What's the difference? He got on, didn't he?
I mean, he got there, didn't he? -
53:46 - 53:48- No, now wait a second.
- He said he ran. At least I think he did. -
53:48 - 53:52Look, I don't remember what he said, but I
don't see how he could have run to the door. -
53:52 - 53:54Ηe said he went
from his bedroom to the front door. -
53:54 - 53:56- Now, isn't that enough?
- Where was the bedroom? -
53:56 - 53:58- It was down the hall somewhere.
- I thought you remembered everything. -
53:58 - 54:01- Don't you remember that?
- No. -
54:01 - 54:02Mr. Foreman, I'd like to see
a diagram of the apartment. -
54:02 - 54:06- Why don't we just have 'em run the trial all over again
so you can get everything straight? - Mr. Foreman. -
54:06 - 54:09How come you're the only one in this room
wants to see exhibits all the time? -
54:09 - 54:11- I want to see this one too.
- And I'd like to stop wasting time. -
54:11 - 54:14If we're gonna start wading through all that
nonsense about where the body was found... -
54:14 - 54:17We're not,
not unless somebody else wants to. -
54:17 - 54:19But I'd like to find out if an old man...
-
54:19 - 54:21who drags one foot when he walks
'cause he had a stroke last year... -
54:21 - 54:23can get from his bedroom
to his front door in 15 seconds. -
54:23 - 54:25- He said 20 seconds.
- Ηe said 15. -
54:25 - 54:28He said 20 seconds.
What are you trying to distort... -
54:28 - 54:31- He said 15.
- How does he know how long 15 seconds is? -
54:31 - 54:33You can't judge a thing like that.
-
54:33 - 54:35- He said 15 seconds.
- He was very positive about it. -
54:35 - 54:37He was an old man.
Half the time he was confused. -
54:37 - 54:47How could he be positive about anything?
-
54:47 - 54:52I don't see what you're going to prove here.
The man said he saw the boy running out. -
54:52 - 54:54Well, let's see
if the details bear him out. -
54:54 - 54:57As soon as the body hit the floor,
he said he heard footsteps upstairs... -
54:57 - 54:59running toward the front door...
-
54:59 - 55:02heard the upstairs door open,
the footsteps start down the stairs. -
55:02 - 55:04He said he got to his own front door
as fast as he could... -
55:04 - 55:06and he swore it couldn't have been
more than 15 seconds. -
55:06 - 55:08Now, if the killer
began running immediately... -
55:08 - 55:10- Maybe he didn't.
- The old man said he did. -
55:10 - 55:14You ought to be at Atlantic City
at that hairsplitters convention. -
55:14 - 55:16Hey, why don't you stop makin'
smart remarks all the time, huh? -
55:16 - 55:20My friend, for your three dollars a day,
you have to listen to everything, you know? -
55:20 - 55:21Now that you've got that thing in here,
what about it? -
55:21 - 55:23All right. Here's the apartment
where the killing took place. -
55:23 - 55:27The old man's apartment
was directly beneath and exactly the same. -
55:27 - 55:30Here are the el tracks, the bedroom,
living room, kitchen, bathroom. -
55:30 - 55:32Here's the hall. Here are the stairs.
-
55:32 - 55:34Now, the old man
was in this bedroom right here. -
55:34 - 55:37He says he crossed to the door
and walked down the hall... -
55:37 - 55:40opened the front door just in time
to see the boy running down the stairs. -
55:40 - 55:44- Am I right so far?
- That's the story, for the 19th time. -
55:44 - 55:47- Fifteen seconds after the body hit the floor.
- Correct. -
55:47 - 55:49Now, let's see. It was...
-
55:49 - 55:53It's 12 feet from the bed to the door.
The hall is 43 feet. -
55:53 - 55:56He would have had to walk 12 feet,
open the bedroom door... -
55:56 - 56:00walk 43 feet down and open the front door
all in 15 seconds. -
56:00 - 56:03- Do you think he could have done it?
- Sure he could have done it. -
56:03 - 56:06He can walk only very slowly.
They had to help him into the witness chair. -
56:06 - 56:08You make it sound like a long walk.
-
56:08 - 56:10For an old man who had a stroke,
it is a long walk. -
56:10 - 56:14- Oh! What are you doing?
- I'm gonna try it, see how long it took him. -
56:14 - 56:17What do you mean, you want to try it?
Why didn't his lawyer bring it up if it's so important? -
56:17 - 56:21- Maybe he just didn't think about it, huh?
- What do you mean, didn't think of it? You think the man's an idiot or something? -
56:21 - 56:22- It's an obvious thing.
- Did you think of it? -
56:22 - 56:24Listen, smart guy.
Don't matter whether I thought of it. -
56:24 - 56:26He didn't bring it up because he knew it would
hurt his case. What do you think of that? -
56:26 - 56:30Maybe he didn't bring it up because it would have
meant bullying and badgering a helpless old man. -
56:30 - 56:34You know that doesn't sit very well with a jury.
Most lawyers avoid it if they can. -
56:34 - 56:37- So, what kind of a bum is he then?
- That's what I've been asking, buddy. -
56:37 - 56:40Pass me that chair, will you?
Those two chairs are the old man's bed. -
56:40 - 56:43I just paced off 12 feet across the room.
This will be the bedroom door. -
56:43 - 56:45Oh, that's crazy.
You can't recreate a thing like that. -
56:45 - 56:47- I'd like to see it.
- The hall was 43 feet. -
56:47 - 56:51I'll pace from that wall and back again.
-
56:51 - 56:55Look, this is absolutely insane.
What are you wasting everybody's time in here for? -
56:55 - 57:02According to you, it'll only take 15 seconds.
Now, we can spare that, see. -
57:02 - 57:04Come on. Knock it off.
-
57:04 - 57:05Okay.
-
57:05 - 57:07Okay. Okay, killer.
-
57:07 - 57:11Yeah.
-
57:11 - 57:13Will you stand right there
and mark the front door? -
57:13 - 57:16It was chain-locked according
to the testimony, remember? -
57:16 - 57:18- Has anybody got a watch with a second hand?
- I have. -
57:18 - 57:21When you want me to start, stamp your foot.
That'll be the body falling. -
57:21 - 57:23You can time me from there.
-
57:23 - 57:25What are we gonna do, play charades now?
-
57:25 - 57:27- Come on! What are we waiting for?
- Okay, I'm ready. -
57:27 - 57:29Well, I want to wait
till the second hand reaches 60. -
57:29 - 57:38Oh, come on.
-
57:38 - 57:42Come on. Speed it up.
He could walk twice as fast as that. -
57:42 - 58:01You want me to walk faster than that,
I will. -
58:01 - 58:04Lock. Door. Stop.
-
58:04 - 58:06- Right.
- What's the time? -
58:06 - 58:09Uh, exactly 41 seconds.
-
58:09 - 58:12This is what I think happened.
-
58:12 - 58:15The old man heard the fight between the boy
and his father a few hours earlier. -
58:15 - 58:18Then when he's lying in bed, he heard the
body hit the floor in the boy's apartment... -
58:18 - 58:21heard the woman scream from across the street,
got to his front door as fast as he could... -
58:21 - 58:24heard somebody racing down the stairs
and assumed it was the boy. -
58:24 - 58:26- I think that's possible.
- Assumed? -
58:26 - 58:28Oh.
-
58:28 - 58:34Brother, I've seen all kinds of dishonesty in
my day, but this little display takes the cake. -
58:34 - 58:39You all come in here with your hearts bleeding all
over the floor about slum kids and injustice. -
58:39 - 58:41You listen to some fairy tales.
-
58:41 - 58:44Suddenly you start getting through
to some of these old ladies. -
58:44 - 58:46Well, you're not getting through to me.
I've had enough. -
58:46 - 58:49What's the matter with you guys?
-
58:49 - 58:52You all know he's guilty!
He's got to burn! -
58:52 - 58:53You're letting him slip
through our fingers. -
58:53 - 58:56"Slip through our fingers"?
Are you his executioner? -
58:56 - 58:59I'm one of 'em!
-
58:59 - 59:01Perhaps you'd like to pull the switch.
-
59:01 - 59:03For this kid, you bet I would.
-
59:03 - 59:07I feel sorry for you. What it must
feel like to want to pull the switch. -
59:07 - 59:11Ever since you walked into this room, you've been
acting like a self-appointed public avenger. -
59:11 - 59:15You want to see this boy die because you
personally want it, not because of the facts. -
59:15 - 59:17- You're a sadist.
- You... -
59:17 - 59:21Let me go!
I'll kill him. I'll kill him! -
59:21 - 59:31You don't really mean
you'll kill me, do you? -
59:31 - 59:33Is there anything wrong, gentlemen?
I heard some noise. -
59:33 - 59:38Oh, no. Everything's all right. We're just
- You know, friendly little argument. It's... -
59:38 - 59:42Um, listen, we're through with that diagram.
You can take it if you want. -
59:42 - 59:49Here you are. Thank you.
-
59:49 - 60:12What are you lookin' at?
-
60:12 - 60:14I suppose somebody
has to start it off again. -
60:14 - 60:18- I beg pardon.
- "I beg pardon." What are you so polite about? -
60:18 - 60:20For the same reason you're not.
-
60:20 - 60:24It's the way I was brought up.
-
60:24 - 60:26This fighting...
-
60:26 - 60:28That's not why we are here, to fight.
-
60:28 - 60:32We have a responsibility.
-
60:32 - 60:37This, I have always thought,
is a remarkable thing about democracy... -
60:37 - 60:39that we are...
-
60:39 - 60:42Uh, what is the word?
-
60:42 - 60:46Notified.
That we are notified by mail... -
60:46 - 60:49to come down to this place
to decide on the guilt or innocence... -
60:49 - 60:54of a man we have never heard of before.
-
60:54 - 61:00We have nothing to gain or lose
by - by our verdict. -
61:00 - 61:04This is one of the reasons
why we are strong. -
61:04 - 61:08We should not make it a personal thing.
-
61:08 - 61:11Thank you.
-
61:11 - 61:13If nobody else has an idea,
I may have a cutie here. -
61:13 - 61:16I mean, I haven't given it much thought,
but let's throw it out on the stoop... -
61:16 - 61:18and see if the cat licks it up.
-
61:18 - 61:25- The cat licks it up?
- Yeah. If the boy... -
61:25 - 61:27Look how dark it's getting out there.
-
61:27 - 61:31I'll bet we're gonna have a storm now.
-
61:31 - 61:35Boy, oh, boy. It's really hot, huh?
-
61:35 - 61:39Pardon me, but don't you ever sweat?
-
61:39 - 61:42No, I don't.
-
61:42 - 61:44Well, listen. I, uh...
-
61:44 - 61:47I was wondering if, uh, maybe...
-
61:47 - 61:49maybe we should take another vote.
-
61:49 - 61:54Oh, great. Maybe we can follow this one up
with a little dancing and refreshments, huh? -
61:54 - 61:56- Hmm.
- Mr. Foreman? -
61:56 - 62:00Well, that's okay with me.
Anyone doesn't want to vote? -
62:00 - 62:03- Hey, come on. Come on.
- I'm sorry. -
62:03 - 62:06I think we ought to have an open ballot -
call out our votes, you know. -
62:06 - 62:09Let's see who stands where.
-
62:09 - 62:14That sounds fair to me.
Anyone object? -
62:14 - 62:18Okay. I'll call off your jury numbers.
One. -
62:18 - 62:21Oh, that's me. I vote guilty.
-
62:21 - 62:23Two?
-
62:23 - 62:24Not guilty.
-
62:24 - 62:29- Number three?
- Guilty. -
62:29 - 62:32Number four?
-
62:32 - 62:34Guilty.
-
62:34 - 62:38- Number five?
- Not guilty. -
62:38 - 62:42- Number six?
- Not guilty. -
62:42 - 62:44Number seven?
-
62:44 - 62:45Guilty.
-
62:45 - 62:48Number eight?
-
62:48 - 62:51Not guilty.
-
62:51 - 62:53- Number nine?
- Not guilty. -
62:53 - 62:57- Number 10?
- Guilty. -
62:57 - 63:00Number 11?
-
63:00 - 63:02Not guilty.
-
63:02 - 63:04Number 12?
-
63:04 - 63:06Number 12.
-
63:06 - 63:13Guilty.
-
63:13 - 63:16The vote is now six to six.
-
63:16 - 63:22Yeah, right.
And we go into extra innings here, huh? -
63:22 - 63:26Six to six. I'm telling you, some of you
people in here must be out of your minds. -
63:26 - 63:28A kid like that.
-
63:28 - 63:31I don't think the kind of boy he is
has anything to do with it. -
63:31 - 63:33The facts are supposed
to determine the case. -
63:33 - 63:36Don't give me that!
I'm sick and tired of facts! -
63:36 - 63:38You can twist them any way you like.
You know what I mean? -
63:38 - 63:41That's exactly the point
this gentleman has been making. -
63:41 - 63:45- Oh!
- I mean, you keep shouting at the top of your lungs. -
63:45 - 63:47I'd like to be a few years younger.
-
63:47 - 63:52That man gets on my...
-
63:52 - 63:55- My, it's hot in here, isn't it?
- Do you want a drink of water? -
63:55 - 64:07No. No, thanks. Thanks.
-
64:07 - 64:09It's gonna rain.
-
64:09 - 64:12Well, how'd you figure that out, killer?
-
64:12 - 64:14How come you changed your vote?
-
64:14 - 64:16Well, it just seemed to me
there was room for doubt. -
64:16 - 64:19You haven't got a leg to stand on.
You know that, I hope. -
64:19 - 64:22I don't feel that way.
There were a lot of details that never came out. -
64:22 - 64:26- Yeah. Well, good luck.
- Oh, come on. You're like everybody else. -
64:26 - 64:29You think too much.
You get mixed up. -
64:29 - 64:33- You know what I mean?
- Now, listen. I don't think you have any right... -
64:33 - 65:29Loudmouth.
-
65:29 - 65:32Look at that come down, will you?
-
65:32 - 65:34You know...
-
65:34 - 65:37this reminds me of a storm we had last...
-
65:37 - 65:40Oh, when was that? November...
-
65:40 - 65:44I don't know. Something.
It was quite a storm we had there. -
65:44 - 65:46It was right in the middle of a game.
-
65:46 - 65:49Uh, we were behind 7-6...
-
65:49 - 65:51but we just started to move the ball,
right off the tackle. -
65:51 - 65:54Started cutting right -
slash here and slash right in... -
65:54 - 65:56cut right through.
-
65:56 - 65:59And, uh...
-
65:59 - 66:02We had this kid Slattery, you know?
-
66:02 - 66:06A real - He was an ox.
You know, a real ox. -
66:06 - 66:08I wish I had another one just like him.
-
66:08 - 66:13I forgot to tell you. I'm the assistant head
coach at the Andrew J. McCorkle High School. -
66:13 - 66:15- Oh, yeah?
- That's out in Queens. -
66:15 - 66:18And, uh, anyway...
-
66:18 - 66:20we're starting to move along real nice.
-
66:20 - 66:24Their whole line is just -
they're just coming apart. -
66:24 - 66:28And it starts to come down
cats and dogs, just like this. -
66:28 - 66:32Just whoosh - you know, right down.
-
66:32 - 66:36Well, that was murder, you know?
-
66:36 - 66:38I swear, I - I nearly bawled.
-
66:38 - 66:42You just - You couldn't go nowhere.
-
66:42 - 66:59Well.
-
66:59 - 67:09Hey, what is it with this fan here?
How come... -
67:09 - 67:11Hey! Ηuh?
-
67:11 - 67:15Must have been
on the same switch with the lights. -
67:15 - 67:19Well, things are looking up here, huh?
-
67:19 - 67:25Yeah, huh?
-
67:25 - 67:34Boy. That's better.
-
67:34 - 67:36Hey!
-
67:36 - 67:41Two points.
-
67:41 - 67:46Any of you guys ever go to the Garden?
-
67:46 - 67:49That's a damn stupid thing to do.
-
67:49 - 67:52Oh, I'm sorry. I, uh...
-
67:52 - 67:55You know?
-
67:55 - 67:57Pardon me.
-
67:57 - 68:00Well, how do you like it?
Even Steven. -
68:00 - 68:02Pretty surprising, isn't it?
-
68:02 - 68:06Yes.
-
68:06 - 68:09Say, that business before,
when that tall guy - what's-his-name... -
68:09 - 68:12was trying to bait me -
That doesn't prove anything. -
68:12 - 68:15I'm a pretty excitable person.
-
68:15 - 68:19I mean, where does he come off calling me
a public avenger, sadist and everything? -
68:19 - 68:22Anyone in his right mind
would blow his stack, huh? -
68:22 - 68:25He was just trying to bait me.
-
68:25 - 68:29He did an excellent job.
-
68:29 - 68:32I'll tell you what I think.
We're going nowhere here. -
68:32 - 68:34I'm ready to walk into court right now
and declare a hung jury. -
68:34 - 68:36There's no point in this thing
going on any more. -
68:36 - 68:38Yeah. I go for that too.
-
68:38 - 68:41Listen, let's take it in to the judge and let
the kid take his chances with 12 other guys. -
68:41 - 68:43I don't think the judge will accept a hung jury.
We haven't been in here very long. -
68:43 - 68:45Well, let's find out.
-
68:45 - 68:47I'm not in favor of that.
-
68:47 - 68:50Listen. This kid wouldn't stand a chance
with another jury, and you know it. -
68:50 - 68:53Come on! We're hung. Nobody's gonna
change his vote. Let's take it inside. -
68:53 - 68:56You still don't think there's room
for reasonable doubt? -
68:56 - 68:57No, I don't.
-
68:57 - 68:58Pardon.
-
68:58 - 69:02Maybe you don't fully understand
the term "reasonable doubt." -
69:02 - 69:05What do you mean I don't understand?
-
69:05 - 69:07Boy, how do ya like this guy?
-
69:07 - 69:09I'm tellin' ya, they're all alike.
-
69:09 - 69:11They come over here, running for their life,
and before they can take a deep breath... -
69:11 - 69:14they're telling us how
to run the show, huh? -
69:14 - 69:16Boy, the arrogance of this guy.
-
69:16 - 69:21Hey, all right. Let's stop
the arguing for about two minutes in here. -
69:21 - 69:23Now, who's got something
constructive to say? -
69:23 - 69:27I'd like to go over something,
if you gentlemen don't mind. -
69:27 - 69:30An important point for the prosecution
was the fact... -
69:30 - 69:33that after the boy claimed
he'd been at the movies... -
69:33 - 69:35during the hours
that the killing took place... -
69:35 - 69:39couldn't remember the names of the movies
or the stars who appeared in them. -
69:39 - 69:41This gentleman here has put up that point
in here several times. -
69:41 - 69:43That's correct.
-
69:43 - 69:45It was the only alibi the boy offered...
-
69:45 - 69:47and he himself couldn't back it up
with any details at all. -
69:47 - 69:51Putting yourself in the boy's place,
do you think you could remember details... -
69:51 - 69:54after an upsetting experience such as
being slapped in the face by your father? -
69:54 - 69:58I think so, if there were
any special details to remember. -
69:58 - 70:00The boy couldn't remember the names of the movies
he saw because be wasn't there that night. -
70:00 - 70:03According to
the police testimony in court... -
70:03 - 70:06the boy was questioned by the detectives
in the kitchen of his apartment... -
70:06 - 70:09while the body of his father
was lying on the floor in the bedroom. -
70:09 - 70:12Do you think you could remember details
under those circumstances? -
70:12 - 70:14- I do.
- Under great emotional stress? -
70:14 - 70:16- Under great emotional stress.
- He remembered them correctly in court. -
70:16 - 70:19He named the pictures
and the stars who played in them. -
70:19 - 70:22Yes. His lawyer took great pains
to bring that out. -
70:22 - 70:24He had three months from the night
of the murder to the day of the trial... -
70:24 - 70:26in which to memorize them.
-
70:26 - 70:28It's not difficult for a lawyer to find out
what played at a particular theater... -
70:28 - 70:31on a particular night.
-
70:31 - 70:34I'll take the testimony of the policemen who
interrogated the boy right after the murder... -
70:34 - 70:37when he couldn't remember
a thing about the movies... -
70:37 - 70:39great emotional stress or not.
-
70:39 - 70:42- I'd like to ask you a personal question.
- Go ahead. -
70:42 - 70:46- Where were you last night?
- I was home. -
70:46 - 70:48- How about the night before that?
- Come on! What is this? -
70:48 - 70:50No, it's all right.
-
70:50 - 70:52I left the office at 8:30
and went straight home and to bed. -
70:52 - 70:54And the night before that?
-
70:54 - 70:56That was, uh, Tuesday night?
-
70:56 - 70:59The night of the bridge tournament.
I played bridge. -
70:59 - 71:00Monday night?
-
71:00 - 71:05When you get down
to New Year's Eve, 1954, let me know, huh? -
71:05 - 71:08Monday night?
-
71:08 - 71:11Monday night, uh,
my wife and I went to the movies. -
71:11 - 71:13- What did you see?
- The Scarlet Circle. -
71:13 - 71:17- It was a clever whodunit.
- What was the second feature? -
71:17 - 71:19The, um...
-
71:19 - 71:22I'll tell you in a minute. The, uh...
-
71:22 - 71:26Remarkable Mrs., uh, something...
-
71:26 - 71:29The...
-
71:29 - 71:32Mrs. Bainbridge.
The Remarkable Mrs. Bainbridge. -
71:32 - 71:36I saw that.
It's called The Amazing Mrs. Bainbridge. -
71:36 - 71:38Uh, yes. The Amazing Mrs. Bainbridge.
I think that's right. -
71:38 - 71:40Who was in The Amazing Mrs. Bainbridge?
-
71:40 - 71:44Barbara... Long, I think it was.
-
71:44 - 71:47A dark, very pretty girl.
-
71:47 - 71:50Ling or Long - something like that.
-
71:50 - 71:54- Who else?
- I'd never heard of them before. -
71:54 - 71:58It was a very inexpensive second feature
with, uh, unknown... -
71:58 - 72:04And you weren't under
an emotional stress, were you? -
72:04 - 72:06No.
-
72:06 - 72:10I wasn't.
-
72:10 - 72:12I think the point is made.
-
72:12 - 72:14Big point!
-
72:14 - 72:17You can talk till your tongue
is draggin' on the floor. -
72:17 - 72:21The boy is guilty, period.
You know what I mean, my friend? -
72:21 - 72:26- Who's got those cough drops?
- They're all gone, my friend. -
72:26 - 72:29Oh, boy. Look at that rain.
-
72:29 - 72:31There goes your ball game.
-
72:31 - 72:34It's only a shower.
-
72:34 - 72:35Besides, they got the infield covered.
-
72:35 - 72:42Right. Say, could I see that knife
a second, please? -
72:42 - 72:44Well, we're still tied up six to six.
-
72:44 - 72:46Who's got a suggestion?
-
72:46 - 72:48It's five after 6:00.
Let's get some dinner. -
72:48 - 72:51Why don't we wait till 7:00,
give it another hour, huh? -
72:51 - 72:53Okay with me.
-
72:53 - 72:55Uh, there's something I'd like to say.
-
72:55 - 72:59I mean, it's been bothering me a little,
and as long as we're stuck. -
72:59 - 73:03Well, there was this whole business
about the stab wound and how it was made... -
73:03 - 73:05the downward angle of it, you know?
-
73:05 - 73:07Don't tell me we're gonna
start with that again. -
73:07 - 73:08They've been over it and over it.
-
73:08 - 73:11Well, I know they did,
but I don't go along with it. -
73:11 - 73:15Now, the boy was 5 feet 7 inches tall.
His father was 6'2... -
73:15 - 73:17That's a difference of seven inches.
-
73:17 - 73:20It's a very awkward thing to stab down
into the chest of someone... -
73:20 - 73:22who's more than half a foot
taller than you are. -
73:22 - 73:24Give me that.
-
73:24 - 73:28I'll give you a demonstration.
Somebody get up. -
73:28 - 73:35You...
-
73:35 - 73:38I want you to watch this 'cause
I don't want to have to do it again. -
73:38 - 73:40I'll make myself about six
or seven inches shorter, okay? -
73:40 - 73:51- It's about right. Maybe a little more.
- Okay. A little more. -
73:51 - 73:55That's not funny.
-
73:55 - 74:00Now, nobody's hurt. Right?
-
74:00 - 74:05Right. Nobody hurt.
-
74:05 - 74:10Now, this is the way I'd stab a man
who was taller than I was. -
74:10 - 74:13Look at the angle - down and in.
-
74:13 - 74:15And this is the way it was done.
-
74:15 - 74:20Now tell me I'm wrong.
-
74:20 - 74:23- Down and in. I guess there's no argument.
- Hold it a minute, will ya? -
74:23 - 74:26Can you give me that?
-
74:26 - 74:28Boy, I hate these things.
-
74:28 - 74:30- Did you ever see a knife fight?
- No. -
74:30 - 74:31- You?
- No. -
74:31 - 74:34Anybody here ever see a knife fight?
-
74:34 - 74:37Well, I have.
You know, on my back stoop... -
74:37 - 74:40the lot across the street, backyard.
-
74:40 - 74:42Switchblades came
with the neighborhood where I lived. -
74:42 - 74:45It's funny I never thought of it before.
I guess you try to forget those things. -
74:45 - 74:51- How do you use a switchblade?
- Well, you'd never use it like this. -
74:51 - 74:55See, you use too much time
switching hands. -
74:55 - 75:00Here's how - underhanded.
-
75:00 - 75:03Anyone who's ever used a switch knife
wouldn't handle it any other way. -
75:03 - 75:06- Are you sure?
- I'm sure. -
75:06 - 75:08That's why they're made to open like that.
-
75:08 - 75:10- You'd say the boy was pretty handy with a knife?
- Mm-hmm. -
75:10 - 75:14You think he could have made
the kind of wound that killed his father? -
75:14 - 75:18No. Not with the experience he'd had
all his life handling these things. -
75:18 - 75:20I feel he'd have gone for him underhanded.
-
75:20 - 75:23How do you know? Were you
in the room when the father was killed? -
75:23 - 75:25No. Neither was anybody else.
-
75:25 - 75:28So what are you giving us all this
mumbo jumbo for? I don't believe it. -
75:28 - 75:31I don't think you can determine what type of
wound the boy might or might not have made... -
75:31 - 75:34simply because he knew
how to handle a knife. -
75:34 - 75:37What do you think?
-
75:37 - 75:39- I don't know.
- What do you mean you don't know? -
75:39 - 75:44I don't know.
-
75:44 - 75:47How about you?
-
75:47 - 75:51I don't know about the rest of them, but I'm getting a
little tired of this yackety-yackin' back and forth. -
75:51 - 75:54It's gettin' us nowhere.
So I guess I'll have to break it up. -
75:54 - 75:57I change my vote to not guilty.
-
75:57 - 76:00- You what?
- You heard me. I've had enough. -
76:00 - 76:02What do you mean you've had enough?
That's no answer! -
76:02 - 76:07Hey, listen. You just take care
of yourself, huh? You know? -
76:07 - 76:11He's right. That's not an answer.
-
76:11 - 76:14What kind of a man are you?
-
76:14 - 76:17You have sat here and voted guilty
with everyone else... -
76:17 - 76:22because there are some baseball tickets
burning a hole in your pocket. -
76:22 - 76:27And now you've changed your vote because you
say you're sick of all the talking here? -
76:27 - 76:28Now listen, buddy!
-
76:28 - 76:33Who tells you that you have the right
to play like this with a man's life? -
76:33 - 76:36- Don't you care -
- Now wait a minute! -
76:36 - 76:40- You can't talk like that to me!
- I can talk like that to you. -
76:40 - 76:42If you want to vote not guilty...
-
76:42 - 76:44then do it because you are convinced
the man is not guilty... -
76:44 - 76:46not because you've had enough.
-
76:46 - 76:49And if you think he is guilty,
then vote that way. -
76:49 - 76:52Or don't you have the guts
to do what you think is right? -
76:52 - 76:55- Now listen.
- Guilty or not guilty? -
76:55 - 77:00- I told you, not guilty.
- Why? -
77:00 - 77:02Look, I don't have to...
-
77:02 - 77:05You do have to! Say it! Why?
-
77:05 - 77:17All right. I don't, uh, think he's guilty.
-
77:17 - 77:19I want another vote.
-
77:19 - 77:22Okay. There's another vote called for.
-
77:22 - 77:24I guess the quickest way is a show of hands.
Anyone object? -
77:24 - 77:28Okay. All those voting not guilty,
raise your hands. -
77:28 - 77:36One, two, three, four,
five, six, seven... -
77:36 - 77:42eight.
-
77:42 - 77:45Um, nine.
-
77:45 - 77:50Um, all those voting guilty,
raise your hands. -
77:50 - 77:53One, two, three.
-
77:53 - 77:56Well, the vote's nine to three
in favor of acquittal. -
77:56 - 77:58I don't understand you people!
-
77:58 - 78:01I mean, all these picky little points
you keep bringing up. -
78:01 - 78:04They don't mean nothing!
You saw this kid just like I did. -
78:04 - 78:07You're not gonna tell me you believe
that phony story about losing the knife... -
78:07 - 78:10and that business
about being at the movies. -
78:10 - 78:13Look, you know how these people lie.
It's born in them. -
78:13 - 78:15I mean, what the heck.
I don't have to tell you. -
78:15 - 78:17They don't know what the truth is.
-
78:17 - 78:21And let me tell you, they don't need
any real big reason to kill someone either. -
78:21 - 78:23No, sir.
-
78:23 - 78:26They get drunk!
Oh, they're real big drinkers, all of 'em. -
78:26 - 78:29You know that.
And bang - someone's lying in the gutter. -
78:29 - 78:32Well, nobody's blaming them for it.
That's the way they are, by nature. -
78:32 - 78:34You know what I mean? Violent!
-
78:34 - 78:36Where are you going?
-
78:36 - 78:40Ηuman life don't mean
as much to them as it does to us. -
78:40 - 78:43Look! They're lushing it up
and fighting all the time... -
78:43 - 78:44and if somebody gets killed,
so somebody gets killed! -
78:44 - 78:46They don't care!
-
78:46 - 78:49Oh, sure, there's some good things
about 'em too. -
78:49 - 78:51Look, I'm the first one to say that.
-
78:51 - 78:54I've known a couple who were okay, but
that's the exception, you know what I mean? -
78:54 - 78:58Most of 'em, it's like they have no feelings.
They can do anything. -
78:58 - 79:01What's going on here?
-
79:01 - 79:02I'm - I'm trying to tell ya...
-
79:02 - 79:05you're making a big mistake, you people.
-
79:05 - 79:10This kid is a liar!
I know it. I know all about them. -
79:10 - 79:12Listen to me.
They're no good. -
79:12 - 79:16There's not a one of 'em who's any good.
-
79:16 - 79:19I mean, what -
What's happening in here? -
79:19 - 79:22I'm speaking my piece, and you...
-
79:22 - 79:25Listen to me.
-
79:25 - 79:27I...
-
79:27 - 79:29We're - This kid on trial here, his type...
-
79:29 - 79:33Well, don't you know about them?
-
79:33 - 79:37Th-There's - There's a danger here.
-
79:37 - 79:39These people are dangerous.
-
79:39 - 79:42They're... wild.
-
79:42 - 79:44Listen to me.
-
79:44 - 79:46- Listen.
- I have. -
79:46 - 79:53Now sit down
and don't open your mouth again. -
79:53 - 80:32I was only trying to... tell you.
-
80:32 - 80:38It's always difficult to keep personal
prejudice out of a thing like this. -
80:38 - 80:43Wherever you run into it,
prejudice always obscures the truth. -
80:43 - 80:46I don't really know what the truth is.
-
80:46 - 80:50I don't suppose anybody
will ever really know. -
80:50 - 80:54Nine of us now seem to feel
that the defendant is innocent. -
80:54 - 80:57But we're just gambling on probabilities.
-
80:57 - 80:59We may be wrong.
-
80:59 - 81:02We may be trying to let
a guilty man go free. -
81:02 - 81:03I don't know.
-
81:03 - 81:05Nobody really can.
-
81:05 - 81:08But we have a reasonable doubt...
-
81:08 - 81:11and that's something
that's very valuable in our system. -
81:11 - 81:17No jury can declare a man guilty
unless it's sure. -
81:17 - 81:20We nine can't understand...
-
81:20 - 81:23how you three are still so sure.
-
81:23 - 81:26- Maybe you can tell us.
- I'll try. -
81:26 - 81:30You've made some excellent points, but I
still believe the boy is guilty of murder... -
81:30 - 81:32and I have two reasons.
-
81:32 - 81:35One, the evidence
given by the woman across the street... -
81:35 - 81:38who actually saw the murder committed.
-
81:38 - 81:41As far as I'm concerned,
that's the most important testimony. -
81:41 - 81:44And two, the fact that she
described the stabbing by saying... -
81:44 - 81:50she saw the boy raise his arm over his head
and stab down into the father's chest. -
81:50 - 81:52She saw him do it the wrong way.
-
81:52 - 81:54That's absolutely right.
-
81:54 - 81:57Let's talk about this woman for a moment.
-
81:57 - 82:00She said she went to bed
about 11:00 that night. -
82:00 - 82:04Her bed was next to the window,
and she could look out while lying down... -
82:04 - 82:08and see directly into the boy's room
across the street. -
82:08 - 82:10She tossed and turned for over an hour,
unable to sleep. -
82:10 - 82:15Finally, she turned toward the window
at about 10 minutes after 12:00... -
82:15 - 82:20and, as she looked out, she saw the killing
through the windows of a passing el train. -
82:20 - 82:23She said the lights went out
immediately after the killing... -
82:23 - 82:28but that she got a good look at the boy
in the act of stabbing his father. -
82:28 - 82:33As far as I can see it,
this is unshakable testimony. -
82:33 - 82:41- Well, that's the whole case.
- What do you think? -
82:41 - 82:44How about you?
-
82:44 - 82:46I-I don't know.
-
82:46 - 82:49So much evidence to sift.
-
82:49 - 82:51This is a pretty complicated business.
-
82:51 - 82:55Frankly, I don't see
how you can vote for acquittal. -
82:55 - 82:57It's not so easy to arrange
all the evidence in order. -
82:57 - 82:59You can throw out
all the other evidence! -
82:59 - 83:03The woman saw him do it!
What else do you want? -
83:03 - 83:05- Yeah, well, maybe -
- Let's vote on it. -
83:05 - 83:07Okay. There's another vote called for.
-
83:07 - 83:09Anybody object?
-
83:09 - 83:12All right. I'm changing my vote.
He's guilty. -
83:12 - 83:15Anybody else?
The vote is eight to four. -
83:15 - 83:19Why is this such a personal triumph
for you - this one vote? -
83:19 - 83:22Okay. I say we're a hung jury.
I say we take it in to the judge. -
83:22 - 83:25Ηow about it?
I want to hear arguments. -
83:25 - 83:30You, you're the leader of the cause.
What about it? -
83:30 - 83:31Let's go over it again.
-
83:31 - 83:34We've been over it again!
-
83:34 - 83:38The boy in the gray flannel suit here is bouncin'
backwards and forwards like a tennis ball. -
83:38 - 83:44No point in getting nasty
and trying to turn this into a contest. -
83:44 - 83:46Okay.
-
83:46 - 83:49Maybe we can talk about
setting some kind of time limit. -
83:49 - 83:52Yeah, once around for the deal, huh?
-
83:52 - 83:56It's a quarter after 6:00.
-
83:56 - 83:58Someone before mentioned 7:00.
-
83:58 - 84:00I think that's a point at which
we might begin to discuss... -
84:00 - 84:03the question of whether
we're a hung jury or not. -
84:03 - 84:06Don't you feel well?
-
84:06 - 84:09I feel perfectly well, thank you.
-
84:09 - 84:11I was saying that 7:00
would be a reasonable time. -
84:11 - 84:14Uh, the reason I asked about that
was because, uh... -
84:14 - 84:16you were rubbing your nose like...
-
84:16 - 84:19Oh, I'm sorry for interrupting...
-
84:19 - 84:22but you made a gesture
that reminded me of something. -
84:22 - 84:24I'm trying to settle something here.
Do you mind? -
84:24 - 84:27Well, I think this is important.
-
84:27 - 84:29Thank you.
-
84:29 - 84:32Now then,
I'm sure you'll pardon me for this... -
84:32 - 84:34but I was wondering why
you were rubbing your nose like that. -
84:34 - 84:37Oh, come on, will ya?
-
84:37 - 84:41At this point, I happen to be talking
to the gentleman sitting next to you! -
84:41 - 84:44Now, why were you rubbing
your nose like that? -
84:44 - 84:48Well, if it's any of your business, I was
rubbing it because it bothers me a little. -
84:48 - 84:50Oh. I'm sorry.
-
84:50 - 84:54- Is it - Is it because of your eyeglasses?
- It is. -
84:54 - 84:56Now can we get on to something else?
-
84:56 - 85:01Your eyeglasses made those two
deep impressions on the sides of your nose. -
85:01 - 85:03I hadn't noticed that before.
-
85:03 - 85:06- That must be annoying.
- It is very annoying. -
85:06 - 85:08Well, I wouldn't know about that.
-
85:08 - 85:12I've never worn eyeglasses.
Twenty-twenty. -
85:12 - 85:16Listen, will you come on already
with the optometrist bit? -
85:16 - 85:20The woman who testified
that she saw the killing... -
85:20 - 85:24had those same marks
on the sides of her nose. -
85:24 - 85:27Holy smokes! You know, he's right.
-
85:27 - 85:28Please.
-
85:28 - 85:32Just give me a minute,
and I'll be finished. -
85:32 - 85:35I don't know if anyone else
noticed that about her. -
85:35 - 85:40I didn't think of it then,
but I've been going over her face... -
85:40 - 85:42in my mind.
-
85:42 - 85:45She had those same marks.
-
85:45 - 85:51- She kept rubbing them in court.
- He's right. She did do that a lot. -
85:51 - 85:55This woman was about, uh -
about 45 years old. -
85:55 - 85:59She was making a tremendous effort
to look 35... -
85:59 - 86:02for her first public appearance.
-
86:02 - 86:05Heavy makeup, dyed hair...
-
86:05 - 86:09brand-new clothes that should have
been worn by a younger woman. -
86:09 - 86:11No glasses.
-
86:11 - 86:12No, women do that.
-
86:12 - 86:15See if you can get the
mental picture of it. -
86:15 - 86:16What do you mean, no glasses?
-
86:16 - 86:20How do you know whether she wore glasses?
Just 'cause she was rubbing her nose? -
86:20 - 86:22Now, she had those marks. I saw 'em.
-
86:22 - 86:24So what?
What do ya think that means? -
86:24 - 86:27- Listen, I'm getting so sick of your yelling in here!
- Come on. Forget it. -
86:27 - 86:30Hey, listen. Listen, he's right.
I saw them too. -
86:30 - 86:34I was the closest one to her. She had these,
uh - these things on the side of her nose. -
86:34 - 86:37- What do you call those on the side?
- Well, what point are you making here? -
86:37 - 86:41She had dyed hair, marks on her nose.
Well, what does that mean? -
86:41 - 86:49Could those marks be made
by anything other than eyeglasses? -
86:49 - 86:51No, they couldn't.
-
86:51 - 86:55I didn't see any marks!
-
86:55 - 86:57I did.
-
86:57 - 86:59Strange, but I didn't
think about it before. -
86:59 - 87:01Well, what about the lawyer?
Why didn't he say something? -
87:01 - 87:04There are 12 people in here
concentrating on this case. -
87:04 - 87:07Eleven of us didn't think of it either.
-
87:07 - 87:10Well, what about the district attorney?
Do you think he'd pull a trick like that? -
87:10 - 87:11Have her testify without her glasses?
-
87:11 - 87:16Did you ever see a woman who had to wear glasses and
didn't want to because she thinks they spoil her looks? -
87:16 - 87:19Okay. She had marks on her nose.
-
87:19 - 87:23I'm giving you that.
From glasses, right? -
87:23 - 87:27She didn't want to wear 'em out of the house
so people would think she's gorgeous. -
87:27 - 87:32But when she saw this kid killing his
father, she was in the house alone. -
87:32 - 87:34That's all.
-
87:34 - 87:40- Do you wear glasses when you go to bed?
- No, I don't. -
87:40 - 87:42No one wears eyeglasses to bed.
-
87:42 - 87:45It's logical to assume that she wasn't
wearing them when she was in bed... -
87:45 - 87:47tossing and turning, trying to fall asleep.
-
87:47 - 87:49- How do you know?
- I don't know! I'm guessing. -
87:49 - 87:52I'm also guessing that she probably
didn't put her glasses on... -
87:52 - 87:54when she turned
to look casually out of the window. -
87:54 - 87:57And she herself testified the killing
took place just as she looked out. -
87:57 - 88:00The lights went off a split second later.
She couldn't have had time to put them on then. -
88:00 - 88:01- Wait a second.
- Here's another guess. -
88:01 - 88:06Maybe she honestly thought she saw the boy
kill his father. I say she only saw a blur. -
88:06 - 88:10How do you know what she saw?
How does he know all that? -
88:10 - 88:13How do you know what kind of glasses she wore?
Maybe they were sunglasses. -
88:13 - 88:15Maybe she was farsighted.
What do you know about it? -
88:15 - 88:19I only know the woman's eyesight
is in question now. -
88:19 - 88:24She had to be able to identify a person
60 feet away, at night, without glasses. -
88:24 - 88:27You can't send someone off to die
on evidence like that. -
88:27 - 88:29Oh, don't give me that.
-
88:29 - 88:32Don't you think the woman
might have made a mistake? -
88:32 - 88:34- No.
- It's not possible? -
88:34 - 88:39No, it's not possible.
-
88:39 - 88:42Is it possible?
-
88:42 - 88:48Not guilty.
-
88:48 - 88:50Do you think he's guilty?
-
88:50 - 88:55I think he's guilty.
-
88:55 - 89:00Do you?
-
89:00 - 89:03No. I'm convinced.
-
89:03 - 89:04Not guilty.
-
89:04 - 89:06What's the matter with you?
-
89:06 - 89:08I have a reasonable doubt now.
-
89:08 - 89:10Eleven to one.
-
89:10 - 89:13Well, what about all the other evidence?
What about all that stuff? -
89:13 - 89:15The knife, the whole business!
-
89:15 - 89:24Well, you said we could throw out
all the other evidence. -
89:24 - 89:29Well, what do we do now?
-
89:29 - 89:31You're alone.
-
89:31 - 89:38I don't care whether I'm alone or not!
It's my right. -
89:38 - 89:49It's your right.
-
89:49 - 89:53Well, what do you want?
I say he's guilty. -
89:53 - 89:57- We want to hear your arguments.
- I gave you my arguments. -
89:57 - 90:00We're not convinced.
-
90:00 - 90:02We want to hear them again.
-
90:02 - 90:10We have as much time as it takes.
-
90:10 - 90:15Everything - Every single thing
that took place in that courtroom... -
90:15 - 90:17but I mean everything -
says he's guilty. -
90:17 - 90:21What do you think,
I'm an idiot or something? -
90:21 - 90:23Why don't you take that stuff
about the old man? -
90:23 - 90:28The old man who lived there
and heard everything. -
90:28 - 90:30Or this business about the knife.
-
90:30 - 90:32What? 'Cause he found another one
exactly like it? -
90:32 - 90:35The old man saw him
right there on the stairs! -
90:35 - 90:39What's the difference
how many seconds it was? -
90:39 - 90:43Every single thing.
-
90:43 - 90:46The knife falling through
a hole in his pocket. -
90:46 - 90:49You can't prove he didn't get to the door.
-
90:49 - 90:52Sure, you can take all the time,
hobble around the room. -
90:52 - 90:56But you can't prove it!
-
90:56 - 91:00And what about this business
of the el and the movies? -
91:00 - 91:03There's a phony deal
if I ever heard one. -
91:03 - 91:07I'll bet ya $5,000
I'd remember the movies I saw. -
91:07 - 91:10I'm telling ya,
everything that's gone on... -
91:10 - 91:14has been twisted and turned!
-
91:14 - 91:16This business with the glasses?
-
91:16 - 91:21How do you know she didn't have them on?
This woman testified in open court! -
91:21 - 91:25And what about hearing the kid yell, huh?
-
91:25 - 91:29I'm telling ya, I've got
all the facts here. -
91:29 - 91:34Here. Ah...
-
91:34 - 91:44Well, that's it!
That's the whole case. -
91:44 - 91:48Well?
-
91:48 - 91:55Say something!
-
91:55 - 91:59You lousy bunch of bleeding hearts.
-
91:59 - 92:01You're not gonna intimidate me.
-
92:01 - 92:06I'm entitled to my opinion.
-
92:06 - 92:16Rotten kids.
You work your life out! -
92:16 - 92:23I can't keep...
-
92:23 - 92:28No.
-
92:28 - 92:34Not guilty.
-
92:34 - 92:38Not guilty.
-
92:38 - 92:50Not...
-
92:50 - 94:46Um, we're ready now.
-
94:46 - 94:52Hey!
-
94:52 - 94:54What's your name?
-
94:54 - 94:56Davis.
-
94:56 - 95:00My name's McCardle.
-
95:00 - 95:02Well, so long.
-
95:02 -So long.
- Title:
- 12 Angry Men (1957)
- Description:
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12 Angry Men is a 1957 American drama film adapted from a teleplay of the same name by Reginald Rose. Directed by Sidney Lumet, the film tells the story of a jury made up of 12 men as they deliberate the guilt or acquittal of a defendant on the basis of reasonable doubt. In the United States (both then and now), the verdict in most criminal trials by jury must be unanimous one way or the other. The film is notable for its almost exclusive use of one set: with the exception of the film's opening, which begins outside on the steps of the courthouse and ends with the jury's final instructions before retiring, a brief final scene on the courthouse steps and two short scenes in an adjoining washroom, the entire movie takes place in the jury room. The total time spent outside of the jury room is three minutes out of the full 96 minutes of the movie.
12 Angry Men explores many techniques of consensus-building, and the difficulties encountered in the process, among a group of men whose range of personalities adds intensity and conflict. Apart from two of the jurors swapping names while leaving the courthouse, no names are used in the film: the defendant is referred to as "the boy" and the witnesses as the "old man" and "the lady across the street".
In 2007, 12 Angry Men was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_Angry_Men_%281957_film%29
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1000013-12_angry_men/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050083/ - Duration:
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