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12 Angry Men (1957)

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    Thank you very much, sir.
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    You did a wonderful job. Wonderful.
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    Shh. Shh.
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    We did it, Pete. We did it.
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    - For a moment, we had our doubts.
    - Shh.
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    To continue, you've listened
    to a long and complex case...
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    murder in the first degree.
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    A premeditated murder is the most serious
    charge tried in our criminal courts.
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    You've listened to the testimony.
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    You've had the law read to you
    and interpreted as it applies in this case.
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    It's now your duty to sit down and try
    and separate the facts from the fancy.
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    One man is dead.
    Another man's life is at stake.
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    If there's a reasonable doubt in your minds
    as to the guilt of the accused...
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    a reasonable doubt...
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    then you must bring me
    a verdict of not guilty.
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    Now if, however,
    there's no reasonable doubt...
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    then you must in good conscience
    find the accused guilty.
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    However you decide,
    your verdict must be unanimous.
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    In the event
    that you find the accused guilty...
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    the bench will not entertain
    a recommendation for mercy.
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    The death sentence
    is mandatory in this case.
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    You're faced with a grave responsibility.
    Thank you, gentlemen.
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    The alternate jurors are excused.
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    The jury will now retire.
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    Try this one. See if I can get it...
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    It's a muggy day.
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    Hey. Oh, oh.
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    - Piece of gum?
    - No, thanks.
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    This thing is...
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    - Huh?
    - ...move it.
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    - Come on, I'll give you a hand.
    - Give me a hand with that.
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    That's it.
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    - You know something?
    - Yeah?
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    I called the weather bureau this morning.
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    This is gonna be
    the hottest day of the year.
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    Could be.
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    Boy, you'd think they'd at least
    air-condition these places.
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    - What is your name, sir?
    - Oh, it's, uh - That one, yeah.
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    Thank you very much.
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    Okay, gentlemen, everybody's here.
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    Now, if there's anything you want,
    I'll be right outside the door.
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    - Just knock.
    - Okay, thanks. We will.
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    Good morning.
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    I never knew they locked the door.
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    Sure they lock the door.
    What'd you think?
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    I don't know.
    It just never occurred to me.
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    What's that for?
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    Oh, I thought we might want
    to vote by ballot.
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    Great idea. Maybe we can
    get him elected senator.
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    Just in case, you know.
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    - Ηow'd you like it?
    - Oh, I don't know.
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    It was pretty interesting.
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    Yeah? I almost fell asleep.
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    I mean, I've never been
    on a jury before.
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    No? I've sat on many juries.
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    What gets me is the way
    those lawyers talk and talk and talk...
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    even when it's an open-and-shut case
    like this one.
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    Did you ever hear
    so much talk about nothin'?
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    Well, I guess they're entitled.
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    Yeah. They're entitled.
    It's the system, but...
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    If you ask me, I'd slap those tough kids
    down before they start any trouble.
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    It would save us a lot of time and money.
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    - Hey, let's get started, huh?
    - That's a good idea.
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    - Yeah, let's get goin', huh?
    - We probably all got things to do here.
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    I figured we'd start out with a five-minute break.
    There's one gentleman in the bathroom.
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    - Mr. Foreman.
    - Huh?
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    - Are, uh - Are we gonna sit in order?
    - Gee, I don't know.
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    I, uh - Well, I guess so.
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    Uh, you're in my seat.
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    - Oh. Excuse me.
    - That's all right.
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    Hey, that's not a bad view, huh?
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    What did you think of the case?
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    I mean, it had a lot of interest for me.
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    No real... dead spots.
    You know what I mean?
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    I tell you, we were lucky
    to get a murder case.
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    I figured us for an assault or burglary.
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    Boy, they can be the dullest.
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    Hey.
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    That the Woolworth Building?
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    That's right.
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    Isn't that funny?
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    You know, I've lived here all my life.
    I've never been inside that.
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    If you had to sort out all that junk...
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    Like that thing with the movies.
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    - Yeah. You can say that again.
    - And what about that business with the knife?
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    I mean, asking grown-up people
    to believe that kind of jazz, huh?
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    Well, I expected that.
    You know what we're dealing with.
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    Yeah, I guess so.
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    Well, your horn works.
    Now try your lights.
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    - What do you got, a cold?
    - And how.
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    These hot-weather colds can kill you.
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    I can hardly touch my nose.
    You know what I mean?
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    I sure do. I just got over one.
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    Aw, come on. Mr.
    Foreman, let's go here, huh?
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    Well, that guy's still in the bathroom.
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    Hey, what's new? I didn't get a chance
    to see a paper this morning.
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    Hmm?
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    I was only wondering
    how the market closed.
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    You got a seat on the Exchange?
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    I'm a broker.
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    I run a messenger service -
    the Beck and Call Company.
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    The name is my wife's idea.
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    Got 37 men working.
    Started with nothing.
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    Okay, men, let's take our seats, huh?
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    Yeah, we can all get outta here
    pretty quick, huh?
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    I don't know about the rest of you, but I happen
    to have tickets to that ball game tonight.
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    Yanks and Cleveland.
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    Yeah, we got this kid,
    Modjelewski, in there.
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    Ooh, he's a real bull, this kid.
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    You know - Phoom!
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    A real jug handle. You know?
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    Phoom!
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    You're a real baseball fan, aren't you?
    Huh? Yeah.
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    Where do we sit here?
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    Well, I thought we'd sit in order,
    you know, by jury numbers.
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    One, two, three, four, five -
    so on, around the table.
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    If that's okay with you gentlemen.
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    - Sure.
    - What's the difference?
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    - I think it's reasonable to sit in order.
    - Let it be.
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    - Number 12. Do I sit down here?
    - Yeah. That's 12. We go around...
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    - We start with you. One, right?
    - One, yeah. Two, three, four, five, six.
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    What was your impression
    of the prosecuting attorney?
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    Okay. Two. You're two.
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    I beg pardon?
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    I thought he was really sharp, the way
    he handled all those points one by one.
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    Logical sequence.
    I was very impressed.
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    I think he - he did an expert job.
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    A lot of drive too, you know?
    Real drive.
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    - Okay, fellas, can we hold it down a minute?
    - Sure.
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    Uh, fellas.
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    Say, we'd like to get started.
    Gentleman at the window.
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    - We'd like to get started.
    - Oh, I'm sorry.
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    Pretty tough to figure, isn't it?
    Kid kills his father - bing, just like that.
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    Aw, listen, you analyze the figures,
    you'll see it happens all the time.
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    They let those kids
    run wild up there.
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    Well, maybe it serves 'em right.
    You know what I mean?
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    Is - Is everyone here?
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    The old man is inside.
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    Oh. Would you, uh,
    knock on the door for him?
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    You a Yankee fan?
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    No. Baltimore.
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    - Baltimore?
    - Yeah.
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    That's like being hit in the head
    with a crowbar once a day.
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    Who have they got?
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    No, I mean, who have they got
    besides good groundskeepers?
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    Say, uh, we'd like to get started.
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    Oh, forgive me, gentlemen.
    I - I didn't mean to keep you waiting.
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    Baltimore?
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    Okay, gentlemen,
    if I can have your attention.
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    You fellas can handle this thing
    any way that you want to.
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    I'm, um - You know,
    I'm not gonna make any rules.
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    Uh, we can, well, discuss it first
    and, uh, then vote on it.
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    That's, of course, uh -
    That's, uh, one way.
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    And, uh, well, we can
    vote on it right now, and...
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    I think it's customary
    to take a preliminary vote.
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    Yeah, let's - Let's vote. Who knows?
    Maybe we all can get outta here, huh?
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    Uh-huh.
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    Okay, then I think that, uh...
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    Of course you know that we have
    a first-degree murder charge here...
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    and if we vote the accused guilty...
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    uh, we've got to send him
    to the chair.
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    - Um, that's mandatory.
    - I think we know that.
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    - Let's see who's where.
    - We might as well.
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    - Okay. Uh, anyone doesn't want to vote?
    - All right with me.
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    Okay. Then, uh, just remember that this
    has to be 12 to nothing either way.
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    Um, that's the law.
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    Okay, are we ready?
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    Now, all those voting guilty,
    please raise your hands.
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    One, two, three, four,
    five, six, seven...
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    eight, nine, 10, 11.
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    Okay. That's 11 guilty.
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    Those voting not guilty.
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    One. Right.
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    That's 11 guilty. One not guilty.
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    Well, now we know where we are.
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    Boy, oh, boy. There's always one.
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    So, what do we do now?
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    Well, I guess we talk.
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    Boy, oh, boy.
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    You really think he's innocent?
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    I don't know.
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    I mean, you sat in court with the rest of us.
    You heard what we did.
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    The kid's a dangerous killer.
    You could see it.
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    He's 18 years old.
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    Well, that's old enough. Ηe...
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    He stabbed his own father
    four inches into the chest.
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    They proved it
    a dozen different ways in court.
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    Would you like me to list them for you?
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    No.
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    Then what do you want?
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    - I just want to talk.
    - What's there to talk about?
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    Eleven men in here think he's guilty.
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    No one had to think about it twice
    except you.
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    I want to ask you something.
    Do you believe his story?
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    I don't know whether I believe it or not.
    Maybe I don't.
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    So how come you vote not guilty?
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    Well, there were 11 votes for guilty.
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    It's not easy to raise my hand
    and send a boy off to die...
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    without talking about it first.
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    - Well, now, who says it's easy?
    - No one.
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    What, just because I voted fast?
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    I honestly think the guy's guilty.
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    You couldn't change my mind
    if you talked for a hundred years.
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    I'm not trying to change your mind.
    It's just that...
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    We're talking about somebody's life here.
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    We can't decide it in five minutes.
    Supposing we're wrong.
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    "Supposing we're wrong."
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    Supposing this whole building
    should fall down on my head.
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    - You can suppose anything.
    - That's right.
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    Look, what's the difference
    how long it takes?
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    Suppose we do it in five minutes.
    So what?
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    Let's take an hour.
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    The ball game doesn't start till 8:00.
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    Hmm?
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    Who's got something to say?
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    I'm willing to sit for an hour.
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    Great. I heard
    a pretty good story last night.
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    That's not why we're sitting here.
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    All right, then you tell me.
    What are we sitting here for?
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    I don't know. Maybe no reason.
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    Look, this kid's been kicked around
    all of his life...
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    you know, born in a slum,
    mother dead since he was nine.
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    He lived for a year and a half
    in an orphanage when his...
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    his father was serving a jail term
    for forgery.
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    It's not a very happy beginning.
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    He's a - a wild, angry kid.
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    That's all he's ever been.
    And you know why?
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    'Cause he's been hit on the head
    by somebody once a day every day.
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    He's had a -
    He's had a pretty miserable 18 years.
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    I - I just think we owe him a few words.
    That's all.
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    I don't mind telling you this, mister.
    We don't owe him a thing.
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    He got a fair trial, didn't he?
    What do you think that trial cost?
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    - He's lucky he got it. You know what I mean?
    - You know it.
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    Now, look, we're all grown-ups in here.
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    We heard the facts, didn't we?
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    You're not gonna tell me that we're supposed
    to believe this kid, knowing what he is.
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    Listen, I've lived among them
    all my life.
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    You can't believe a word they say.
    You know that.
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    I mean, they're born liars.
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    - Only an ignorant man can believe that.
    - Now listen...
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    Do you think you were born
    with a monopoly on the truth?
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    I think certain things should be
    pointed out to this man.
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    - Come on. This isn't Sunday.
    - We don't need a sermon.
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    - Come on.
    - We have a job to do. Now let's do it.
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    Rice Pops.
    It's a product I work on at the agency.
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    "The breakfast with the built-in bounce."
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    - I wrote that line.
    - Very catchy.
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    - Yeah.
    - Say, do you mind?
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    Oh, I'm sorry.
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    I have this habit of doodling.
    Keeps me thinking clearly.
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    Yeah, we have all this work to do.
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    - There's no point staying here forever.
    - Sorry.
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    Okay. Um...
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    perhaps if the gentleman down there
    who's disagreeing with us...
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    Well, perhaps you could tell us why.
    You know, let us know what you're thinking.
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    And we might be able to show you
    where you're mixed up.
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    Well, look, maybe -
    Maybe this is an idea.
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    Now, I haven't given it much thought,
    but it seems to me...
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    that it's up to the group of us to convince
    this gentleman that he's wrong and we're right.
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    Now, maybe if we each took
    a couple of minutes just to...
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    Well, it was just a quick idea.
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    No, no, no. That's a good one.
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    Uh, suppose we go
    once around the table.
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    - I guess you're first.
    - Oh.
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    Well, uh...
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    Well, it-it's hard to put into words.
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    I just think he's guilty.
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    I thought it was obvious
    from the word "go."
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    I mean, nobody proved otherwise.
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    Nobody has to prove otherwise.
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    The burden of proof's on the prosecution.
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    The defendant doesn't even
    have to open his mouth.
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    - That's in the Constitution.
    - Oh, well, sure, I know that.
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    Uh, what I meant was, is...
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    Well, I just think he's guilty.
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    I-I mean, somebody saw him do it.
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    Okay. Uh, here's what I think,
    and I have no personal feelings about this.
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    I just want to talk about facts.
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    Number one.
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    The old man lived downstairs under the room
    where the killing took place.
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    At 10 minutes after 12:00
    on the night of the killing...
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    he heard loud noises,
    said it sounded like a fight.
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    And he heard the kid yell out,
    "I'm gonna kill ya."
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    A second later,
    he heard a body hit the floor.
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    Ran to the door, opened it up...
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    saw the kid running down the stairs
    and out of the house.
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    Called the police.
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    They came in, found the old man
    with a knife in his chest.
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    The coroner fixed the time of death
    around midnight.
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    Now these are facts.
    You can't refute facts.
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    The kid is guilty.
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    I'm just as sentimental as the next fella.
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    I know he's only 18, but he's still
    gotta pay for what he did.
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    I'm with you.
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    Okay. Are you finished?
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    - Yeah.
    - Right. Next.
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    It is obvious, to me anyway,
    that the boy's entire story was flimsy.
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    He claimed he was at the movies
    during the time of the killing...
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    and yet, one hour later, he couldn't
    remember the names of the films he saw...
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    - or who played in them.
    - That's right.
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    And no one saw him going in
    or out of the theater.
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    Listen, what about the woman
    across the street?
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    If her testimony don't prove it,
    nothing does.
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    That's right. She was the one
    who actually saw the killing.
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    - Now, fellas, please.
    - Let's go in order here, huh?
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    Just a minute. Here's a woman...
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    Here's a woman who was lying in bed.
    She can't sleep.
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    She's dying with the heat.
    You know what I mean?
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    Anyway, she looks out the window...
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    and right across the street she sees
    the kid stick the knife into his father.
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    The time is 12:10 on the nose.
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    Everything fits.
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    Look, she's known the kid all his life.
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    His window is right opposite hers
    across the el tracks...
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    and she swore she saw him do it.
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    - Through the windows of the passing el train.
    - Right.
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    This el train had no passengers on it.
    It was just being moved downtown.
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    The lights were out, remember?
    And they proved in court that, at night...
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    you can look through the windows
    of an el train when the lights are out...
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    and see what's happening
    on the other side.
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    - They proved it.
    - I'd like to ask you something.
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    You don't believe the boy's story.
    How come you believe the woman's?
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    She's one of them too, isn't she?
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    You're a pretty smart fella, aren't you?
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    - Okay, gentlemen.
    - Now, now.
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    - Now, gentlemen.
    - Come on. Sit down. Sit down.
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    Oh, what's he so wise about?
    I'm telling you.
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    - Okay, now come on.
    - Now we're not gonna get anywhere fighting.
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    Whose turn is it next?
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    Oh, uh, his. Number five.
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    Okay, may I - Can I pass? It...
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    Well, uh, that's your privilege.
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    Uh, how about the next gentleman?
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    Oh. Well, uh, I don't know.
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    I started to be convinced, you know,
    very early in the case.
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    You see, I was looking for a motive.
    That's very important.
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    Because if you don't have a motive,
    where's your case, right?
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    Anyway, that, uh, testimony
    from those people...
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    in the apartment across the hall
    from the kid's apartment...
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    that was very powerful.
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    Didn't they say something about a -
    a fight and an argument...
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    between the old man and his son
    around about, uh, 7:00 that night?
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    - I mean, I could be wrong, but I -
    - It was 8:00.
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    It was 8:00. That's right.
    They heard an argument.
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    They couldn't hear what it was about.
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    Then they heard
    the father hit the boy twice.
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    Finally they saw the boy
    run angrily out of the house.
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    What does that prove?
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    Well, it don't exactly prove anything.
    It's just part of the picture.
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    Well, you said it provided a motive.
    The prosecuting attorney said the same thing.
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    I don't think
    that was a very strong motive.
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    This boy's been hit so many times in his
    life that violence is practically a...
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    It's a normal state of affairs with him.
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    I just - I can't see two slaps in the face
    provoking him into committing murder.
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    It may have been two too many.
    Everyone has a breaking point.
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    Anything else?
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    - No.
    - Okay.
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    Uh, how about you?
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    I don't know. It's all been said.
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    You can talk here forever.
    It's still the same thing.
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    This kid is five for 0.
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    Well, look at his record.
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    When he was 10,
    he was in children's court.
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    He threw a rock at a teacher.
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    When he was 15, he was in reform school.
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    He stole a car.
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    He's been arrested for mugging.
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    He was picked up twice for knife fighting.
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    Oh, yeah, they say
    he's real handy with a knife.
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    Oh, this is a very fine boy.
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    Ever since he was five years old,
    his father beat him up regularly.
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    - He used his fists.
    - Well, so would I.
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    A kid like that?
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    It's these kids, the way they are nowadays.
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    When I was a kid,
    I used to call my father "sir."
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    That's right. "Sir."
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    Do you ever hear a kid
    call his father that any more?
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    Fathers don't seem to think
    it's important any more.
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    - You got any kids?
    - Three.
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    I got one.
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    Twenty-two years old.
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    When he was nine years old,
    he ran away from a fight.
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    I saw it. I was so embarrassed
    I almost threw up.
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    I said, "I'm gonna make a man out of you
    if I have to break you in two trying."
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    Well, I made a man out of him.
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    When he was 16, we had a fight.
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    Hit me in the jaw.
    He was a big kid.
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    Haven't seen him for two years.
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    Kids.
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    Work your heart out.
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    Well, let's get going.
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    I think we're missing the point here.
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    This boy, let's say he's the product
    of a broken home and a filthy neighborhood.
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    We can't help that. We're here to decide
    whether he's innocent or guilty...
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    not to go into the reasons
    why he grew up the way he did.
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    He was born in a slum.
    Slums are breeding grounds for criminals.
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    I know it, and so do you.
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    It's no secret children from slum backgrounds
    are potential menaces to society.
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    - Now I think -
    - Brother, you can say that again.
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    The kids who crawl out of these places
    are real trash.
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    - I don't want any part of them. I'm telling you.
    - Listen, mister. Listen.
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    - I, uh - I've lived in a slum all my life.
    - Wait a minute.
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    Please, I - I played in backyards
    that were filled with garbage.
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    I mean, maybe you can still
    smell it on me.
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    Now, listen, sonny.
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    - Come on now.
    - There's nothing personal about this.
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    - No, there was something personal.
    - Aw, come on, fella. He didn't mean you.
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    Let's not be so sensitive.
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    This sensitivity I can understand.
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    Okay, look, let's stop the arguing.
    We're only wasting time, and...
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    Look, your turn down there.
    Let's go.
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    Oh, I didn't expect a turn. I thought
    you were all gonna try to convince me.
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    - Wasn't that the idea?
    - Check. That was the idea.
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    - Oh, I forgot about that. He's right.
    - What difference does it make?
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    He's the one who's keeping us in here.
    Let's hear what he's got to say.
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    Oh, now wait a minute.
    We decided to do this a certain way.
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    I think we ought to stick to that way.
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    Oh, stop being a kid, will you?
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    - What do you mean "a kid"?
    - What do you think I mean?
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    K-I-D. Kid.
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    What? Listen, just because I'm trying
    to keep this thing organized?
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    Here, you take it.
    You take on the responsibility.
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    I'll just - I'll keep my mouth shut.
    That's all.
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    What are you getting so hot about?
    Calm down, will you?
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    Don't tell me to calm down.
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    Here. You wanna take the chair,
    just take the chair. That's all.
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    - Did you ever see such a thing?
    - See if you can keep it running.
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    - Listen, you think it's funny or something?
    - Hey, forget it, fella.
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    The whole thing's unimportant.
    Come on.
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    - Unimportant? Oh, here, you try it.
    - No, nobody wants to change.
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    You're doing a beautiful job.
    Sit down.
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    Yeah, you're doing great.
    Just great, fella.
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    You stay in there and pitch. You know?
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    All right. Let's hear from somebody.
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    Well, if you want me to tell you how I
    feel about it, it's all right with me.
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    Boy, I don't care what you do.
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    All right, I don't have anything brilliant.
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    I only know as much as you do.
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    According to the testimony,
    the boy looks guilty. Maybe he is.
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    I sat there in court for six days
    listening while the evidence built up.
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    Everybody sounded so positive, you know?
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    I-I began to get a peculiar feeling
    about this trial.
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    I mean, nothing is that positive.
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    There are a lot of questions
    I'd have liked to ask.
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    I don't know. Maybe they wouldn't
    have meant anything, but...
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    I began to get the feeling
    that the defense counsel...
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    wasn't conducting a thorough-enough
    cross-examination.
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    I mean, he - he let too many things go by,
    little things that...
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    What little things? Listen,
    when these fellas don't ask questions...
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    it's because they know the answers already
    and they figure they'll be hurt.
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    Maybe it's also possible for a lawyer
    to be just plain stupid, isn't it?
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    I mean it's possible.
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    You sound like you met
    my brother-in-law once.
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    I - I kept putting myself
    in the kid's place.
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    I'd have asked for another lawyer, I think.
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    I mean, if I was on trial for my life...
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    I'd want my lawyer to tear the prosecution
    witnesses to shreds, or at least try to.
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    Look, there was one alleged eyewitness
    to this killing.
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    Someone else claims he heard the killing,
    saw the boy run out afterwards.
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    And there was a lot
    of circumstantial evidence.
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    But actually, those two witnesses
    were the entire case for the prosecution.
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    Supposing they're wrong.
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    What do you mean
    supposing they're wrong?
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    What's the point
    of having witnesses at all?
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    - Could they be wrong?
    - What are you trying to say?
  • 25:34 - 25:36
    Those people sat on the stand under oath.
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    They're only people.
    People make mistakes.
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    Could they be wrong?
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    - Well, no, I don't think so.
    - Do you know so?
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    Oh, come on.
    Nobody can know a thing like that.
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    This isn't an exact science.
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    That's right. It isn't.
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    Okay, let - Let's get to the point.
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    What about the switch knife
    they found in the old man's chest?
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    Uh, wait-wait a minute.
    There's some people who haven't talked yet.
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    - Shouldn't we go in order?
    - They'll get a chance to talk.
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    Be quiet a second, will you?
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    What about it, this...
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    the knife this fine upright boy
    admitted buying the night of the killing?
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    Let's talk about it.
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    All right, let's talk about it.
    Let's get it in here and look at it.
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    I'd like to see it again.
    Mr. Foreman?
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    - We all saw what it looks like.
    - Why do we have to see it again?
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    The gentleman has a right
    to see exhibits in evidence.
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    Say, could you bring us the knife?
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    - Knife?
    - Yeah. Thank you.
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    The knife and the way it was bought
    is pretty strong evidence, don't you think?
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    - I do.
    - Good.
  • 26:33 - 26:36
    Now, suppose we take these facts
    one at a time.
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    One. The boy admitted going out of the house
    at 8:00 on the night of the murder...
  • 26:39 - 26:41
    after being slapped several times
    by his father.
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    No, no. No, he didn't say "slapped."
    He said "punched."
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    There's a difference
    between a slap and a punch.
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    After being hit several times
    by his father.
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    Two. He went directly
    to a neighborhood junk shop...
  • 26:52 - 26:54
    - where he bought one of those -
    - Switch knives.
  • 26:54 - 26:55
    Switchblade knives.
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    This wasn't what you'd call
    an ordinary knife.
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    It had a very unusual carved handle
    and blade.
  • 27:00 - 27:02
    The storekeeper who sold it to him...
  • 27:02 - 27:05
    said it was the only one of its kind
    he had ever had in stock.
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    Three. He met some friends of his
    in front of a tavern about 8:45.
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    Am I right so far?
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    - Yes, you are.
    - You bet he is.
  • 27:13 - 27:16
    He talked with his friends for about
    an hour, leaving them at 9:45.
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    During this time,
    they saw the switch knife.
  • 27:19 - 27:21
    Four.
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    They identified the death weapon
    in court...
  • 27:24 - 27:26
    as that very same knife.
  • 27:26 - 27:29
    Five. Ηe arrived home at about 10:00.
  • 27:29 - 27:31
    Now this is where the stories
    offered by the State and the boy...
  • 27:31 - 27:33
    begin to diverge slightly.
  • 27:33 - 27:36
    He claims that he went to a movie
    at about 11:30...
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    returning home at 3:10 to find his
    father dead and himself arrested.
  • 27:40 - 27:42
    He also claims that
    the two detectives who arrested him...
  • 27:42 - 27:45
    threw him down a half a flight of stairs.
  • 27:45 - 27:47
    Now, what happened to the switch knife?
  • 27:47 - 27:49
    He claims that it fell through a hole
    in his pocket on the way to the movies...
  • 27:49 - 27:54
    sometime between 11:30 and 3:10
    and that he never saw it again.
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    Now there's a tale, gentlemen.
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    I think it's quite clear that the boy
    never went to the movies that night.
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    No one in the house
    saw him go out at 11:30.
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    No one at the theater identified him.
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    He couldn't even remember
    the names of the pictures he saw.
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    - What actually happened is this.
    - Thank you.
  • 28:10 - 28:13
    The boy stayed home,
    had another fight with his father...
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    stabbed him to death and left the
    house at 10 minutes after 12:00.
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    He even remembered to wipe the knife
    clean of fingerprints.
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    Now are you trying to tell me
    that this knife...
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    really fell through a hole
    in the boy's pocket...
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    someone picked it up off the street,
    went to the boy's house...
  • 28:27 - 28:30
    and stabbed his father with it
    just to test its sharpness?
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    No. I'm just saying it's possible
    the boy lost his knife...
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    and that somebody else stabbed his father
    with a similar knife.
  • 28:35 - 28:36
    It's just possible.
  • 28:36 - 28:39
    Take a look at this knife.
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    It's a very unusual knife.
  • 28:42 - 28:43
    I've never seen one like it.
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    Neither had the storekeeper
    who sold it to the boy.
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    Aren't you asking us to accept
    a pretty incredible coincidence?
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    I'm just saying a coincidence is possible.
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    And I say it's not possible.
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    Where did that come from?
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    - Where'd you get that?
    - It's the same knife.
  • 29:03 - 29:05
    What do you think you're doing?
  • 29:05 - 29:06
    Where did you get it?
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    I went out walking
    for a couple of hours last night.
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    I walked through the boy's neighborhood.
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    I bought that at a little pawnshop
    just two blocks from the boy's house.
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    It cost six dollars.
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    It's against the law
    to buy or sell switchblade knives.
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    That's right. I broke the law.
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    Listen, you pulled a real bright trick.
    Now, supposing you tell me what it proves.
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    Maybe there are 10 knives like that.
    So what?
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    - Maybe there are.
    - Well, what does it mean?
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    You found another knife like it.
    What's that, the discovery of the age or something?
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    You mean you're asking us to believe
    that somebody else did the stabbing...
  • 29:36 - 29:38
    with exactly the same kind of knife?
  • 29:38 - 29:39
    The odds are a million-to-one.
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    - It's possible.
    - But not very probable.
  • 29:42 - 29:45
    Okay, fellas, let's take our seats.
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    There's no point in standing around
    all over the place.
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    You know, it's interesting that he'd find a
    knife exactly like the one the boy bought.
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    What's interesting about it?
    "Interesting."
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    Well, I don't know.
    I just thought it was interesting.
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    There are still 11 of us here
    who think he's guilty.
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    - Right.
    - What do you think you're gonna accomplish?
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    You're not gonna change anybody's mind.
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    So if you wanna be stubborn
    and hang this jury, go ahead.
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    The kid will be tried again
    and found guilty sure as he's born.
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    That's probably right.
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    So what are you gonna do?
    You know, we could be here all night.
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    It's only one night. A boy may die.
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    Well, why don't we just
    set up house here, huh?
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    Someone send for Potsy the policeman
    and get a pinochle deck...
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    and, uh, we'll just
    sweat the whole thing out right here.
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    - I don't think he ought to joke about it.
    - What do you want me to do about it?
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    Oh, listen! I don't see what all this stuff
    about the knife's got to do with anything.
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    Somebody saw the kid stab his father.
    What more do we need?
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    You guys can talk the ears right off my head.
    You know what I mean?
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    I got three garages of mine goin' to pot
    while you're talking.
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    So let's get done and get outta here.
  • 30:45 - 30:49
    The knife was very important to the
    district attorney. He spent a whole day...
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    He's a 15th assistant or something.
    What does he know about it?
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    Hey, let's hold it down.
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    These side arguments
    are only slowing us up.
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    Well, what about it?
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    You're the only one.
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    I have a proposition
    to make to all of you.
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    I'm gonna call for another vote.
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    I want you 11 men to vote
    by secret written ballot.
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    I'll abstain.
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    If there are 11 votes for guilty,
    I won't stand alone.
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    We'll take in a guilty verdict
    to the judge right now.
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    But if anyone votes not guilty,
    we stay here and talk it out.
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    Well, that's it.
    If you want to try it, I'm ready.
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    All right. Let's do it the hard way.
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    Okay, that sounds fair.
    Everyone agreed?
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    - Anyone doesn't agree?
    - Fine, fine. Let's go.
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    Here, pass these along.
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    Is that the right time?
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    "Guilty."
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    "Not guilty."
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    "Guilty."
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    Boy, how do you like that?
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    Oh, and another chap flaps his wings.
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    All right, who was it?
    Come on. I want to know.
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    Excuse me. This was a secret ballot.
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    We all agreed on that, no?
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    If the gentleman wanted
    to remain secret...
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    Secret? What do you mean secret?
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    There are no secrets in a jury room.
    I know who it was.
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    Brother, you really are something.
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    You sit here, vote guilty
    like the rest of us...
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    and then some golden-voiced preacher
    starts tearin' your poor heart out...
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    about some underprivileged kid
    just couldn't help becomin' a murderer...
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    and you change your vote.
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    If that isn't the most sick...
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    Why don't you drop a quarter
    in his collection box?
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    Oh, now just wait a minute.
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    Listen, you can't talk to me like that.
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    - No. Who do you think you are?
    - Calm down. Calm down.
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    No. Who does he think he is?
    Did you hear him?
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    - It doesn't matter. He's very excitable. Sit down.
    - Excitable? You bet I'm excitable!
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    We're trying to put a guilty man
    in the chair where he belongs!
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    Someone starts telling us fairy tales,
    and we're listenin'!
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    Hey, uh, come on, huh?
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    What made you change your vote?
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    He didn't change his vote.
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    I did.
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    - Oh, fine.
    - I knew it.
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    Would you like me to tell you why?
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    No, I wouldn't like you to tell me why.
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    I'd like to make it clear anyway,
    if you don't mind.
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    Do we have to listen to this?
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    The man wants to talk.
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    Thank you.
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    This gentleman has been
    standing alone against us.
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    Now, he doesn't say
    the boy is not guilty.
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    He just isn't sure.
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    Well, it's not easy to stand alone
    against the ridicule of others.
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    So he gambled for support,
    and I gave it to him.
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    I respect his motives.
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    The boy on trial is probably guilty,
    but, uh, I want to hear more.
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    Right now, the vote is 10 to two.
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    I'm talking here!
    You have no right to leave this room!
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    He can't hear you. He never will.
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    Let's sit down.
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    Shall we continue?
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    Well, I - I think we ought
    to take a break.
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    You know, one man's inside,
    and I think we ought to wait for him.
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    Okay.
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    Looks like we're really
    hung up here, huh?
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    And that thing with the old man,
    that was pretty unexpected.
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    I wish I could figure out some way
    we could break it up.
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    You know, in advertising -
    I told you I worked in an agency.
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    Mm-hmm.
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    Well, there's some pretty strange people
    working there.
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    Well, they're not strange really, I guess.
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    It's just that they have peculiar ways
    of expressing themselves.
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    You know what I mean.
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    Of course, I suppose it's the same
    in your business too, huh?
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    What do you do?
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    - I'm a watchmaker.
    - Oh, really?
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    Well, I imagine the finest watchmakers
    in the world come from Europe, huh?
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    Anyway, as I was telling you, in an
    agency, when we reach a point like this...
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    I'm telling him about, in an ad agency, when
    a point like this is reached in a meeting...
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    there's always some character
    ready with an idea, see.
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    And it kills me.
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    It's the weirdest thing in the world...
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    the way they sometimes precede their idea
    with a little phrase, see, like...
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    Some account exec will get up,
    and he'll say, uh...
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    "Okay, here's an idea.
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    Let's, uh, run it up the flagpole
    and see if anyone salutes it."
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    I mean, it's idiotic, but it's funny, huh?
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    I, uh
    - I got a little excited back there. I...
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    didn't mean to get nasty.
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    I'm glad you're not one of those
    lets these emotional appeals influence him.
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    Uh...
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    I don't know what's the matter with that fan.
    Can't seem to get it to start.
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    ♪ Be, be, be ♪
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    ♪ Ba, ba, ba, ba, bum ♪♪
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    Eh!
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    Hey, you a salesman?
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    I'm an architect.
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    Hmm.
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    You know what the soft sell is?
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    Boy, you got it. Believe me.
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    I got a different technique.
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    Laughs, drinks, jokes.
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    Tricks. You know?
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    Yeah.
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    "Hit 'em where they live."
    That's my motto.
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    I made 27 grand last year
    sellin' marmalade.
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    That's not bad. I mean,
    you know, considering marmalade.
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    Hey, what are you
    gettin' outta this - kicks?
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    Or did somebody bump you on the head
    one time and you haven't gotten over it?
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    Maybe.
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    You know, you do-gooders are all alike.
  • 37:31 - 37:36
    You're always blowing your stacks
    over some guy that fanned.
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    But what are you wasting our time for?
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    Why don't you donate five dollars to the
    cause, and maybe it'll make you feel better.
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    This kid is guilty, pal.
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    It's as plain as the nose on your face.
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    So why don't we stop
    wasting our time here?
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    We're gonna all get sore throats
    if we keep it up, you know?
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    What difference does it make
    if you get it here or at the ball game?
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    Oh, no difference, pal.
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    No difference at all.
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    Nice bunch of guys, huh?
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    Oh, they're about the same
    as anyone else.
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    Phew! Boy, what a murderous day.
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    You think we'll be much longer?
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    I don't know.
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    Aw, he's guilty for sure.
  • 38:31 - 38:32
    Not a doubt in the whole world.
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    We should -
    Should've been done already.
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    Oh, I don't mind, you know.
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    Hmm. Beats workin'.
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    Uh...
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    You think he's not guilty, huh?
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    I don't know. It's possible.
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    Well, I don't know you, but I'm bettin'
    you never been wronger in your life.
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    You're wasting your time.
    You ought to wrap it up.
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    Supposing you were the one
    who was on trial.
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    Well, I'm not used to supposing.
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    I'm just a workingman.
    My boss does the supposing. But...
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    Well, I'll try one.
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    Supposing you talk us all out of this, and,
    uh, the kid really did knife his father. Huh?
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    Are you ready?
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    Hup.
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    That one.
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    Sorry, blue eyes.
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    - Well, where else -
    - Okay, fellas, let's take our seats.
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    Looks like we'll be here
    for dinner, huh?
  • 39:38 - 39:40
    Okay, now let's -
    Let's get down to business.
  • 39:40 - 39:42
    Now, who wants to start it off?
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    - I would.
    - Okay, go.
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    You down there.
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    The old man who lived downstairs says he
    heard the kid yell out, "I'm gonna kill ya."
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    A second later,
    he heard the body hit the floor.
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    Now, he ran to the door and he saw the kid
    running down the stairs and out of the house.
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    What does that mean to you?
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    I was wondering how clearly the old man could
    have heard the boy's voice through the ceiling.
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    He didn't hear it through the ceiling.
    The window was open.
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    So was the one upstairs.
    It was a hot night, remember?
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    Well, it was another apartment.
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    It's not that easy to identify a voice,
    particularly a shouting voice.
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    - He identified it in court.
    - That's right.
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    And don't forget the lady
    across the street.
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    She looked right in the open window
    and saw the boy stab his father.
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    - Now, I mean, isn't that enough for you?
    - No, it isn't.
  • 40:18 - 40:20
    Boy, how do you like this guy, huh?
  • 40:20 - 40:22
    It's like talking into a dead phone.
  • 40:22 - 40:25
    She said she saw the killing through the
    windows of a moving elevated train.
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    There were six cars on the train.
    She saw the killing through the last two cars.
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    She remembered
    the most insignificant details.
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    I don't see how you can argue with that.
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    Has anybody here any idea
    how long it would take an el...
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    Hey!
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    This isn't a game.
  • 40:53 - 40:55
    - Did you see him?
    - Hey.
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    - The nerve.
    - All right, listen...
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    - The absolute nerve.
    - Forget it. It's not important.
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    - "This isn't a game"?
    - Calm down.
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    - Who does he think he is?
    - I'm telling you, forget it now.
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    Has anybody any idea how long
    it takes an elevated train...
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    going at medium speed
    to pass a given point?
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    - What has that to do with anything?
    - How long? Take a guess.
  • 41:13 - 41:16
    - I wouldn't have the slightest idea.
    - What do you think?
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    I don't know. Maybe 10, 12 seconds?
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    I think that's a pretty good guess.
    Anyone else?
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    - That sounds right to me.
    - Come on. What's the guessing game for?
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    - What do you say?
    - Ten seconds is about right.
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    All right. Say 10 seconds.
    What are you getting at?
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    This. It takes a six-car el train
    10 seconds to pass a given point.
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    Now let's say the given point is the open window
    of the room where the killing took place.
  • 41:37 - 41:40
    You can reach out of that window
    and almost touch the el tracks, right?
  • 41:40 - 41:42
    Now let me ask you this.
  • 41:42 - 41:44
    Has anyone here
    ever lived near the el tracks?
  • 41:44 - 41:48
    Well, uh, I just finished painting an
    apartment that overlooked an el line.
  • 41:48 - 41:50
    - I was there for three days.
    - What was it like?
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    - What do you mean?
    - Noisy?
  • 41:51 - 41:53
    Oh, brother. Don't matter though.
    We were all punchy.
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    I lived in a second-floor apartment
    near the el line once.
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    When the window was open and the train
    goes by, the noise is almost unbearable.
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    - You can hardly hear yourself think.
    - All right, you can't hear yourself think.
  • 42:02 - 42:05
    - Will you get to the point?
    - I will. Now just a minute.
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    Let's take two pieces of testimony
    and try to put them together.
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    First. The old man in the
    apartment downstairs.
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    He says he heard the boy say
    "I'm gonna kill you"...
  • 42:15 - 42:18
    and a split second later
    heard a body hit the floor.
  • 42:18 - 42:20
    - One second later, right?
    - That's right.
  • 42:20 - 42:26
    Second. The woman across the street swore
    positively she looked out of the window...
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    and saw the killing through the last two
    cars of the passing elevated train, right?
  • 42:30 - 42:32
    - The last two cars.
    - What are you giving us here?
  • 42:32 - 42:33
    Now, just a minute.
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    We've agreed that it takes 10 seconds
    for a train to pass a given point.
  • 42:39 - 42:42
    Since the woman saw the killing
    through the last two cars...
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    we can assume that the body
    hit the floor just as the train went by.
  • 42:47 - 42:52
    Therefore, the train had been roaring
    by the old man's window...
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    a full 10 seconds
    before the body hit the floor.
  • 42:55 - 42:57
    The old man,
    according to his own testimony...
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    "I'm gonna kill you," body hitting
    the floor a split second later...
  • 43:00 - 43:03
    would have had to hear the boy
    make this statement...
  • 43:03 - 43:05
    with the el roaring past his nose.
  • 43:05 - 43:07
    It's not possible he could've heard it.
  • 43:07 - 43:09
    - That's idiotic. Of course he heard it.
    - Do you think he could've heard it?
  • 43:09 - 43:11
    He said he yelled at the top of his voice.
    That's good enough for me.
  • 43:11 - 43:14
    Even if he heard something, he still
    couldn't have identified the voice.
  • 43:14 - 43:15
    With the el roaring by?
  • 43:15 - 43:17
    You're talking about a matter of seconds!
    Nobody can be that accurate.
  • 43:17 - 43:24
    I think testimony that could put a boy into
    the electric chair should be that accurate.
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    You know something?
    I don't think he could've heard it.
  • 43:26 - 43:29
    Maybe he didn't hear it.
    I mean, with all that el noise.
  • 43:29 - 43:31
    Oh, what are you people talking about?
  • 43:31 - 43:33
    Well, it stands to reason
    he couldn't have heard it.
  • 43:33 - 43:35
    Why should he lie?
    What's he got to gain?
  • 43:35 - 43:36
    Attention maybe.
  • 43:36 - 43:39
    You keep coming in
    with these bright sayings!
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    Why don't you send 'em in to a paper?
    They pay three dollars apiece.
  • 43:42 - 43:45
    What are you talking to him
    like that for?
  • 43:45 - 43:49
    Guy talks like that to an old man
    really ought to get stepped on, you know?
  • 43:49 - 43:52
    You ought to have more respect, mister.
  • 43:52 - 44:06
    If you say stuff like that to him again,
    I'm gonna lay you out.
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    Now you go ahead.
    You - You say anything you like.
  • 44:09 - 44:13
    Why do you think
    the old man might lie?
  • 44:13 - 44:17
    It was just that I looked at him
    for a very long time.
  • 44:17 - 44:21
    The seams of his jacket was split,
    under the shoulder.
  • 44:21 - 44:22
    Or did you notice that?
  • 44:22 - 44:25
    I mean, to come to court like that.
  • 44:25 - 44:27
    Why...
  • 44:27 - 44:32
    He was a very old man
    in a torn jacket.
  • 44:32 - 44:35
    And he walked very slowly
    to the stand.
  • 44:35 - 44:39
    He was dragging his left leg
    and trying to hide it...
  • 44:39 - 44:42
    because he was ashamed.
  • 44:42 - 44:47
    I think I know this man
    better than anyone here.
  • 44:47 - 44:52
    This is a quiet, frightened,
    insignificant old man who...
  • 44:52 - 44:55
    who has been nothing all his life...
  • 44:55 - 44:57
    who has never had recognition...
  • 44:57 - 45:00
    or his name in the newspapers.
  • 45:00 - 45:02
    Nobody knows him.
  • 45:02 - 45:04
    Nobody quotes him.
  • 45:04 - 45:09
    Nobody seeks his advice after 75 years.
  • 45:09 - 45:14
    Gentlemen, that's a very sad thing -
    to be nothing.
  • 45:14 - 45:19
    A man like this needs to be quoted,
    to be listened to.
  • 45:19 - 45:21
    To be quoted just once.
  • 45:21 - 45:23
    Very important to him.
  • 45:23 - 45:26
    It would be so hard for him
    to recede into the background...
  • 45:26 - 45:27
    - Wait a minute.
    - When there was a chance...
  • 45:27 - 45:30
    What are you trying to do - tell us he'd
    lie just so he could be important once?
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    No. He wouldn't really lie.
  • 45:32 - 45:37
    But perhaps he made himself believe
    he heard those words...
  • 45:37 - 45:38
    and recognized the boy's face.
  • 45:38 - 45:41
    That's the most fantastic story
    I've ever heard.
  • 45:41 - 45:53
    How can you make up a thing like that?
    What do you know about it?
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    Oh, uh, does anybody
    want a cough drop?
  • 45:55 - 45:58
    - No, thanks.
    - I'll take one.
  • 45:58 - 46:01
    You can say what you like. I still don't
    see how anybody can think he's not guilty.
  • 46:01 - 46:04
    There's something else
    I'd like to talk about for a minute.
  • 46:04 - 46:06
    Thanks.
  • 46:06 - 46:09
    I think we've proved that the old man couldn't
    have heard the boy say "I'm gonna kill you."
  • 46:09 - 46:11
    - But supposing -
    - You didn't prove it at all.
  • 46:11 - 46:14
    - What are you talking about?
    - Supposing he really did hear it.
  • 46:14 - 46:16
    This phrase, how many times
    have all of us used it?
  • 46:16 - 46:17
    Probably thousands.
  • 46:17 - 46:19
    "I could kill you for that, darling."
  • 46:19 - 46:21
    "Junior, you do that once more,
    and I'm gonna kill you."
  • 46:21 - 46:23
    "Get in there, Rocky, and kill him."
  • 46:23 - 46:25
    We say it every day. That doesn't mean
    we're really gonna kill anybody.
  • 46:25 - 46:27
    Wait a minute.
    What are you trying to give us here?
  • 46:27 - 46:30
    The phrase was "I'm gonna kill you."
    The kid yelled it at the top of his lungs.
  • 46:30 - 46:32
    Don't tell me he didn't mean it.
  • 46:32 - 46:34
    Anybody says a thing like that
    the way he said it, they mean it.
  • 46:34 - 46:35
    Well, gee, now I don't know.
  • 46:35 - 46:41
    I remember I was arguing with a guy I work
    next to at the bank a couple weeks ago.
  • 46:41 - 46:42
    He called me an idiot, so I yelled at him.
  • 46:42 - 46:45
    Now listen! This guy's trying to make you
    believe things that aren't so.
  • 46:45 - 46:48
    The kid said he was gonna kill him,
    and he did kill him.
  • 46:48 - 46:50
    Let me ask you this. Do you really think the
    boy would shout out a thing like that...
  • 46:50 - 46:52
    so the whole neighborhood could hear him?
  • 46:52 - 46:54
    I don't think so.
    He's much too bright for that.
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    Bright? He's a common ignorant slob.
    He don't even speak good English.
  • 46:59 - 47:04
    "He doesn't even speak good English."
  • 47:04 - 47:08
    Mr. Foreman, I'd like
    to change my vote to not guilty.
  • 47:08 - 47:10
    You what?
  • 47:10 - 47:13
    - You heard me.
    - Are you sure?
  • 47:13 - 47:15
    Yeah, I'm sure.
  • 47:15 - 47:17
    The vote is nine to three,
    favor of guilty.
  • 47:17 - 47:24
    Well, if this isn't the living end. Huh?
  • 47:24 - 47:28
    What are you basing it on -
    the stories this guy made up?
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    You ought to write for one of those
    kooky detective magazines.
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    You'd make a fortune.
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    For crying out loud. The kid's own lawyer
    knew he didn't stand a chance.
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    Right from the beginning,
    his own lawyer knew it.
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    You could see it.
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    Boy, oh, boy. I'm tellin' you,
    this guy here is really something.
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    Look, the kid had a lawyer, didn't he?
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    He presented his case, not you.
    How come you got so much to say?
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    - Look, lawyers aren't infallible, you know.
    - Baltimore, please. Huh?
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    He was court-appointed.
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    - What's that supposed to mean?
    - It could mean a lot of things.
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    It could mean he didn't want the case,
    or he resented being appointed.
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    It's the kind of case
    that brings him nothing...
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    no money, no glory,
    not even much chance of winning.
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    That's not a very promising situation
    for a young lawyer.
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    He'd really have to believe in his client
    to put up any kind of a good case...
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    and, as you pointed out a minute ago,
    obviously he didn't.
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    Of course he didn't. Huh.
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    Who the heck could?
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    Except maybe
    some guy's mother or somebody. I...
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    Ah, look.
    Will you look at the time, huh?
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    - Come on. For crying out -
    - Pardon me.
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    - I have made some notes here -
    - Notes.
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    And I would like to -
    please, to say something.
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    - Yeah.
    - I have been listening very carefully.
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    And, uh, it seems to me that this man
    has some very good points to make.
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    From what was presented at the trial,
    the boy looks guilty on the surface.
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    - But maybe if we go deeper?
    - Oh, come on, will ya?
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    There is a question I would like to ask.
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    Let us assume that the boy
    really did commit the murder.
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    Now, this happened
    at 10 minutes after 12:00.
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    Now, how was he caught by the police?
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    He came back home, uh, at 3:00 or so...
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    and he was captured by two detectives
    in the hallway of his house.
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    Now, my question is,
    if he really had killed his father...
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    why would he come back home
    three hours later?
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    Wouldn't he be afraid of being caught?
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    He came home to get his knife.
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    It's not nice to go around leaving knives
    sticking in people's chests.
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    - Yeah, especially relatives.
    - Yeah.
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    I don't see anything funny about it.
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    The boy knew the knife could be identified
    as the one he had just bought.
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    He had to get it before the police did.
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    But if he knew the knife could be identified,
    why did he leave it there in the first place?
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    Well, I think we can assume
    the boy ran out in a state of panic...
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    after having just killed his father.
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    When he finally calmed down,
    he realized he had left his knife there.
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    Ah. This then depends
    on your definition of panic.
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    He would have had to be
    calm enough to see to it...
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    that there were no fingerprints
    left on the knife.
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    Now, where did this panic start
    and where did it end?
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    Look, you voted guilty.
    What side are ya on?
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    I don't believe I have to be loyal
    to one side or the other.
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    I'm simply asking questions.
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    Well, this is just off the top of my head,
    but, uh...
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    well, if I were the boy
    and I'd done the stabbing and everything...
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    I'd take a chance
    and go back for the knife.
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    I'll bet he figured that nobody
    had seen him running out...
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    and that the body wouldn't be discovered
    till the next day.
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    Well, after all,
    it was the middle of the night.
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    I'll bet he'd figured nobody
    would find the body till the next day.
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    Pardon. This is my whole point.
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    The woman across the street testified that
    the moment after she saw the killing...
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    that is, a moment
    after the train went by...
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    she screamed
    and then went to telephone the police.
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    Now, the boy certainly
    must have heard the scream...
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    so he knew
    that somebody saw something.
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    I just don't think
    that he would have gone back.
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    Two things. One, in his state of panic,
    he may not have heard the scream.
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    Perhaps it wasn't very loud.
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    Two, if he did hear it, he may not
    have connected it with his own act.
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    Remember, he lived in a neighborhood
    where screams were fairly commonplace.
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    - There's your answer.
    - Maybe.
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    Maybe the boy did kill his father,
    didn't hear the scream...
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    did run out in a panic,
    did calm down three hours later...
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    and come back to get the knife,
    risking being caught by the police.
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    Maybe all of those things happened,
    but maybe they didn't.
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    I think there's enough doubt that we can
    wonder whether he was there at all...
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    during the time the killing took place.
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    What do you mean doubt?
    What are you talking about?
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    Didn't the old man see him
    running out of the house?
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    He's twisting the facts, I'm telling you.
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    Did or didn't the old man see the kid
    running out of the house at 12:10?
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    Well, did or didn't he?
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    - He says he did.
    - "Says he did"? Boy! How do you like that?
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    - Now, look, witnesses can make mistakes.
    - Sure, when you want them to, they do.
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    Or when he wants them to, they do.
    You know what I mean?
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    - Keep the yelling down!
    - Oh, you keep saying that.
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    Maybe what we need
    is a little yelling in here.
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    These guys
    keep going off every which way.
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    Did hear the scream.
    Didn't hear the scream.
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    What difference does it make? You people
    are talking only about the little details.
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    You're forgetting the important stuff.
    I mean, all of a sudden, everybody here...
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    - I want to call for another vote.
    - I'm talking here!
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    There's another vote called for.
    Now let's take our seats.
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    I never saw so much time
    spent on nothing.
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    It only takes a second.
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    Okay. I guess the fastest way
    is to find out who's voting not guilty.
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    Now, all those voting not guilty,
    please raise your hands.
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    Still the same.
    One, two, three not guilty. Nine guilty.
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    So, now where are we?
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    I'm telling you, we can yackety-yack until
    next Tuesday. Where's it all getting us?
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    Pardon. I vote not guilty.
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    Oh!
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    What are ya talking about? I mean,
    we're all going crazy in here or something.
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    The kid is guilty.
    Why don't you listen to the facts?
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    Tell him, will ya?
    Now this is getting to be a joke.
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    The vote is eight to four,
    favor of guilty.
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    What is this, love your underprivileged
    brother week or something?
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    I want you to get up and tell me
    why you changed your vote.
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    - Come on. Give me your reasons.
    - I don't have to defend my decision to you.
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    There is a reasonable doubt in my mind.
  • 52:52 - 52:55
    What reasonable doubt? That's nothing but words.
    Here, look at this.
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    The kid you just decided isn't guilty
    was seen ramming this into his father.
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    Now, what about this,
    Mr. Reasonable Doubt?
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    That's not the knife.
    Don't you remember?
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    Oh, brilliant.
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    I'm telling ya, this is the craziest.
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    I mean, what are we supposed to believe?
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    I mean, you're sittin' here, you're pulling
    stories out of thin air, you know?
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    A guy like this, if he's, uh, sitting
    ringside at the Dempsey-Firpo fight...
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    he'd be trying to tell you that, uh...
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    Look. Now, what about the old man?
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    Are we supposed to believe that he
    didn't get up and run to his door...
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    and see the kid tearing down the steps
    15 seconds after the killing?
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    He's just saying so to be important, right?
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    - I mean, what's the point of the whole thing?
    - Wait. Hold it a second, will you?
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    Oh, and the Baltimore rooter
    is heard from again now...
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    and pop-ups are fallin' for base hits
    wherever we look.
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    Hold it a second. Now, look -
    Did the old man say he ran to the door?
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    Ran, walked. What's the difference? He got on, didn't he?
    I mean, he got there, didn't he?
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    - No, now wait a second.
    - He said he ran. At least I think he did.
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    Look, I don't remember what he said, but I
    don't see how he could have run to the door.
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    Ηe said he went
    from his bedroom to the front door.
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    - Now, isn't that enough?
    - Where was the bedroom?
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    - It was down the hall somewhere.
    - I thought you remembered everything.
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    - Don't you remember that?
    - No.
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    Mr. Foreman, I'd like to see
    a diagram of the apartment.
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    - Why don't we just have 'em run the trial all over again
    so you can get everything straight? - Mr. Foreman.
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    How come you're the only one in this room
    wants to see exhibits all the time?
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    - I want to see this one too.
    - And I'd like to stop wasting time.
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    If we're gonna start wading through all that
    nonsense about where the body was found...
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    We're not,
    not unless somebody else wants to.
  • 54:17 - 54:19
    But I'd like to find out if an old man...
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    who drags one foot when he walks
    'cause he had a stroke last year...
  • 54:21 - 54:23
    can get from his bedroom
    to his front door in 15 seconds.
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    - He said 20 seconds.
    - Ηe said 15.
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    He said 20 seconds.
    What are you trying to distort...
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    - He said 15.
    - How does he know how long 15 seconds is?
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    You can't judge a thing like that.
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    - He said 15 seconds.
    - He was very positive about it.
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    He was an old man.
    Half the time he was confused.
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    How could he be positive about anything?
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    I don't see what you're going to prove here.
    The man said he saw the boy running out.
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    Well, let's see
    if the details bear him out.
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    As soon as the body hit the floor,
    he said he heard footsteps upstairs...
  • 54:57 - 54:59
    running toward the front door...
  • 54:59 - 55:02
    heard the upstairs door open,
    the footsteps start down the stairs.
  • 55:02 - 55:04
    He said he got to his own front door
    as fast as he could...
  • 55:04 - 55:06
    and he swore it couldn't have been
    more than 15 seconds.
  • 55:06 - 55:08
    Now, if the killer
    began running immediately...
  • 55:08 - 55:10
    - Maybe he didn't.
    - The old man said he did.
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    You ought to be at Atlantic City
    at that hairsplitters convention.
  • 55:14 - 55:16
    Hey, why don't you stop makin'
    smart remarks all the time, huh?
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    My friend, for your three dollars a day,
    you have to listen to everything, you know?
  • 55:20 - 55:21
    Now that you've got that thing in here,
    what about it?
  • 55:21 - 55:23
    All right. Here's the apartment
    where the killing took place.
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    The old man's apartment
    was directly beneath and exactly the same.
  • 55:27 - 55:30
    Here are the el tracks, the bedroom,
    living room, kitchen, bathroom.
  • 55:30 - 55:32
    Here's the hall. Here are the stairs.
  • 55:32 - 55:34
    Now, the old man
    was in this bedroom right here.
  • 55:34 - 55:37
    He says he crossed to the door
    and walked down the hall...
  • 55:37 - 55:40
    opened the front door just in time
    to see the boy running down the stairs.
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    - Am I right so far?
    - That's the story, for the 19th time.
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    - Fifteen seconds after the body hit the floor.
    - Correct.
  • 55:47 - 55:49
    Now, let's see. It was...
  • 55:49 - 55:53
    It's 12 feet from the bed to the door.
    The hall is 43 feet.
  • 55:53 - 55:56
    He would have had to walk 12 feet,
    open the bedroom door...
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    walk 43 feet down and open the front door
    all in 15 seconds.
  • 56:00 - 56:03
    - Do you think he could have done it?
    - Sure he could have done it.
  • 56:03 - 56:06
    He can walk only very slowly.
    They had to help him into the witness chair.
  • 56:06 - 56:08
    You make it sound like a long walk.
  • 56:08 - 56:10
    For an old man who had a stroke,
    it is a long walk.
  • 56:10 - 56:14
    - Oh! What are you doing?
    - I'm gonna try it, see how long it took him.
  • 56:14 - 56:17
    What do you mean, you want to try it?
    Why didn't his lawyer bring it up if it's so important?
  • 56:17 - 56:21
    - Maybe he just didn't think about it, huh?
    - What do you mean, didn't think of it? You think the man's an idiot or something?
  • 56:21 - 56:22
    - It's an obvious thing.
    - Did you think of it?
  • 56:22 - 56:24
    Listen, smart guy.
    Don't matter whether I thought of it.
  • 56:24 - 56:26
    He didn't bring it up because he knew it would
    hurt his case. What do you think of that?
  • 56:26 - 56:30
    Maybe he didn't bring it up because it would have
    meant bullying and badgering a helpless old man.
  • 56:30 - 56:34
    You know that doesn't sit very well with a jury.
    Most lawyers avoid it if they can.
  • 56:34 - 56:37
    - So, what kind of a bum is he then?
    - That's what I've been asking, buddy.
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    Pass me that chair, will you?
    Those two chairs are the old man's bed.
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    I just paced off 12 feet across the room.
    This will be the bedroom door.
  • 56:43 - 56:45
    Oh, that's crazy.
    You can't recreate a thing like that.
  • 56:45 - 56:47
    - I'd like to see it.
    - The hall was 43 feet.
  • 56:47 - 56:51
    I'll pace from that wall and back again.
  • 56:51 - 56:55
    Look, this is absolutely insane.
    What are you wasting everybody's time in here for?
  • 56:55 - 57:02
    According to you, it'll only take 15 seconds.
    Now, we can spare that, see.
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    Come on. Knock it off.
  • 57:04 - 57:05
    Okay.
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    Okay. Okay, killer.
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    Yeah.
  • 57:11 - 57:13
    Will you stand right there
    and mark the front door?
  • 57:13 - 57:16
    It was chain-locked according
    to the testimony, remember?
  • 57:16 - 57:18
    - Has anybody got a watch with a second hand?
    - I have.
  • 57:18 - 57:21
    When you want me to start, stamp your foot.
    That'll be the body falling.
  • 57:21 - 57:23
    You can time me from there.
  • 57:23 - 57:25
    What are we gonna do, play charades now?
  • 57:25 - 57:27
    - Come on! What are we waiting for?
    - Okay, I'm ready.
  • 57:27 - 57:29
    Well, I want to wait
    till the second hand reaches 60.
  • 57:29 - 57:38
    Oh, come on.
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    Come on. Speed it up.
    He could walk twice as fast as that.
  • 57:42 - 58:01
    You want me to walk faster than that,
    I will.
  • 58:01 - 58:04
    Lock. Door. Stop.
  • 58:04 - 58:06
    - Right.
    - What's the time?
  • 58:06 - 58:09
    Uh, exactly 41 seconds.
  • 58:09 - 58:12
    This is what I think happened.
  • 58:12 - 58:15
    The old man heard the fight between the boy
    and his father a few hours earlier.
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    Then when he's lying in bed, he heard the
    body hit the floor in the boy's apartment...
  • 58:18 - 58:21
    heard the woman scream from across the street,
    got to his front door as fast as he could...
  • 58:21 - 58:24
    heard somebody racing down the stairs
    and assumed it was the boy.
  • 58:24 - 58:26
    - I think that's possible.
    - Assumed?
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    Oh.
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    Brother, I've seen all kinds of dishonesty in
    my day, but this little display takes the cake.
  • 58:34 - 58:39
    You all come in here with your hearts bleeding all
    over the floor about slum kids and injustice.
  • 58:39 - 58:41
    You listen to some fairy tales.
  • 58:41 - 58:44
    Suddenly you start getting through
    to some of these old ladies.
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    Well, you're not getting through to me.
    I've had enough.
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    What's the matter with you guys?
  • 58:49 - 58:52
    You all know he's guilty!
    He's got to burn!
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    You're letting him slip
    through our fingers.
  • 58:53 - 58:56
    "Slip through our fingers"?
    Are you his executioner?
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    I'm one of 'em!
  • 58:59 - 59:01
    Perhaps you'd like to pull the switch.
  • 59:01 - 59:03
    For this kid, you bet I would.
  • 59:03 - 59:07
    I feel sorry for you. What it must
    feel like to want to pull the switch.
  • 59:07 - 59:11
    Ever since you walked into this room, you've been
    acting like a self-appointed public avenger.
  • 59:11 - 59:15
    You want to see this boy die because you
    personally want it, not because of the facts.
  • 59:15 - 59:17
    - You're a sadist.
    - You...
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    Let me go!
    I'll kill him. I'll kill him!
  • 59:21 - 59:31
    You don't really mean
    you'll kill me, do you?
  • 59:31 - 59:33
    Is there anything wrong, gentlemen?
    I heard some noise.
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    Oh, no. Everything's all right. We're just
    - You know, friendly little argument. It's...
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    Um, listen, we're through with that diagram.
    You can take it if you want.
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    Here you are. Thank you.
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    What are you lookin' at?
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    I suppose somebody
    has to start it off again.
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    - I beg pardon.
    - "I beg pardon." What are you so polite about?
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    For the same reason you're not.
  • 60:20 - 60:24
    It's the way I was brought up.
  • 60:24 - 60:26
    This fighting...
  • 60:26 - 60:28
    That's not why we are here, to fight.
  • 60:28 - 60:32
    We have a responsibility.
  • 60:32 - 60:37
    This, I have always thought,
    is a remarkable thing about democracy...
  • 60:37 - 60:39
    that we are...
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    Uh, what is the word?
  • 60:42 - 60:46
    Notified.
    That we are notified by mail...
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    to come down to this place
    to decide on the guilt or innocence...
  • 60:49 - 60:54
    of a man we have never heard of before.
  • 60:54 - 61:00
    We have nothing to gain or lose
    by - by our verdict.
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    This is one of the reasons
    why we are strong.
  • 61:04 - 61:08
    We should not make it a personal thing.
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    Thank you.
  • 61:11 - 61:13
    If nobody else has an idea,
    I may have a cutie here.
  • 61:13 - 61:16
    I mean, I haven't given it much thought,
    but let's throw it out on the stoop...
  • 61:16 - 61:18
    and see if the cat licks it up.
  • 61:18 - 61:25
    - The cat licks it up?
    - Yeah. If the boy...
  • 61:25 - 61:27
    Look how dark it's getting out there.
  • 61:27 - 61:31
    I'll bet we're gonna have a storm now.
  • 61:31 - 61:35
    Boy, oh, boy. It's really hot, huh?
  • 61:35 - 61:39
    Pardon me, but don't you ever sweat?
  • 61:39 - 61:42
    No, I don't.
  • 61:42 - 61:44
    Well, listen. I, uh...
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    I was wondering if, uh, maybe...
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    maybe we should take another vote.
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    Oh, great. Maybe we can follow this one up
    with a little dancing and refreshments, huh?
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    - Hmm.
    - Mr. Foreman?
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    Well, that's okay with me.
    Anyone doesn't want to vote?
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    - Hey, come on. Come on.
    - I'm sorry.
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    I think we ought to have an open ballot -
    call out our votes, you know.
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    Let's see who stands where.
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    That sounds fair to me.
    Anyone object?
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    Okay. I'll call off your jury numbers.
    One.
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    Oh, that's me. I vote guilty.
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    Two?
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    Not guilty.
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    - Number three?
    - Guilty.
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    Number four?
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    Guilty.
  • 62:34 - 62:38
    - Number five?
    - Not guilty.
  • 62:38 - 62:42
    - Number six?
    - Not guilty.
  • 62:42 - 62:44
    Number seven?
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    Guilty.
  • 62:45 - 62:48
    Number eight?
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    Not guilty.
  • 62:51 - 62:53
    - Number nine?
    - Not guilty.
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    - Number 10?
    - Guilty.
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    Number 11?
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    Not guilty.
  • 63:02 - 63:04
    Number 12?
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    Number 12.
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    Guilty.
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    The vote is now six to six.
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    Yeah, right.
    And we go into extra innings here, huh?
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    Six to six. I'm telling you, some of you
    people in here must be out of your minds.
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    A kid like that.
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    I don't think the kind of boy he is
    has anything to do with it.
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    The facts are supposed
    to determine the case.
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    Don't give me that!
    I'm sick and tired of facts!
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    You can twist them any way you like.
    You know what I mean?
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    That's exactly the point
    this gentleman has been making.
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    - Oh!
    - I mean, you keep shouting at the top of your lungs.
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    I'd like to be a few years younger.
  • 63:47 - 63:52
    That man gets on my...
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    - My, it's hot in here, isn't it?
    - Do you want a drink of water?
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    No. No, thanks. Thanks.
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    It's gonna rain.
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    Well, how'd you figure that out, killer?
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    How come you changed your vote?
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    Well, it just seemed to me
    there was room for doubt.
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    You haven't got a leg to stand on.
    You know that, I hope.
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    I don't feel that way.
    There were a lot of details that never came out.
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    - Yeah. Well, good luck.
    - Oh, come on. You're like everybody else.
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    You think too much.
    You get mixed up.
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    - You know what I mean?
    - Now, listen. I don't think you have any right...
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    Loudmouth.
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    Look at that come down, will you?
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    You know...
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    this reminds me of a storm we had last...
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    Oh, when was that? November...
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    I don't know. Something.
    It was quite a storm we had there.
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    It was right in the middle of a game.
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    Uh, we were behind 7-6...
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    but we just started to move the ball,
    right off the tackle.
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    Started cutting right -
    slash here and slash right in...
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    cut right through.
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    And, uh...
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    We had this kid Slattery, you know?
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    A real - He was an ox.
    You know, a real ox.
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    I wish I had another one just like him.
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    I forgot to tell you. I'm the assistant head
    coach at the Andrew J. McCorkle High School.
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    - Oh, yeah?
    - That's out in Queens.
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    And, uh, anyway...
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    we're starting to move along real nice.
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    Their whole line is just -
    they're just coming apart.
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    And it starts to come down
    cats and dogs, just like this.
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    Just whoosh - you know, right down.
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    Well, that was murder, you know?
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    I swear, I - I nearly bawled.
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    You just - You couldn't go nowhere.
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    Well.
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    Hey, what is it with this fan here?
    How come...
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    Hey! Ηuh?
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    Must have been
    on the same switch with the lights.
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    Well, things are looking up here, huh?
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    Yeah, huh?
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    Boy. That's better.
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    Hey!
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    Two points.
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    Any of you guys ever go to the Garden?
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    That's a damn stupid thing to do.
  • 67:49 - 67:52
    Oh, I'm sorry. I, uh...
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    You know?
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    Pardon me.
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    Well, how do you like it?
    Even Steven.
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    Pretty surprising, isn't it?
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    Yes.
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    Say, that business before,
    when that tall guy - what's-his-name...
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    was trying to bait me -
    That doesn't prove anything.
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    I'm a pretty excitable person.
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    I mean, where does he come off calling me
    a public avenger, sadist and everything?
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    Anyone in his right mind
    would blow his stack, huh?
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    He was just trying to bait me.
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    He did an excellent job.
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    I'll tell you what I think.
    We're going nowhere here.
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    I'm ready to walk into court right now
    and declare a hung jury.
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    There's no point in this thing
    going on any more.
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    Yeah. I go for that too.
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    Listen, let's take it in to the judge and let
    the kid take his chances with 12 other guys.
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    I don't think the judge will accept a hung jury.
    We haven't been in here very long.
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    Well, let's find out.
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    I'm not in favor of that.
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    Listen. This kid wouldn't stand a chance
    with another jury, and you know it.
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    Come on! We're hung. Nobody's gonna
    change his vote. Let's take it inside.
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    You still don't think there's room
    for reasonable doubt?
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    No, I don't.
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    Pardon.
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    Maybe you don't fully understand
    the term "reasonable doubt."
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    What do you mean I don't understand?
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    Boy, how do ya like this guy?
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    I'm tellin' ya, they're all alike.
  • 69:09 - 69:11
    They come over here, running for their life,
    and before they can take a deep breath...
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    they're telling us how
    to run the show, huh?
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    Boy, the arrogance of this guy.
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    Hey, all right. Let's stop
    the arguing for about two minutes in here.
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    Now, who's got something
    constructive to say?
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    I'd like to go over something,
    if you gentlemen don't mind.
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    An important point for the prosecution
    was the fact...
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    that after the boy claimed
    he'd been at the movies...
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    during the hours
    that the killing took place...
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    couldn't remember the names of the movies
    or the stars who appeared in them.
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    This gentleman here has put up that point
    in here several times.
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    That's correct.
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    It was the only alibi the boy offered...
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    and he himself couldn't back it up
    with any details at all.
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    Putting yourself in the boy's place,
    do you think you could remember details...
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    after an upsetting experience such as
    being slapped in the face by your father?
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    I think so, if there were
    any special details to remember.
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    The boy couldn't remember the names of the movies
    he saw because be wasn't there that night.
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    According to
    the police testimony in court...
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    the boy was questioned by the detectives
    in the kitchen of his apartment...
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    while the body of his father
    was lying on the floor in the bedroom.
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    Do you think you could remember details
    under those circumstances?
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    - I do.
    - Under great emotional stress?
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    - Under great emotional stress.
    - He remembered them correctly in court.
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    He named the pictures
    and the stars who played in them.
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    Yes. His lawyer took great pains
    to bring that out.
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    He had three months from the night
    of the murder to the day of the trial...
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    in which to memorize them.
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    It's not difficult for a lawyer to find out
    what played at a particular theater...
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    on a particular night.
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    I'll take the testimony of the policemen who
    interrogated the boy right after the murder...
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    when he couldn't remember
    a thing about the movies...
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    great emotional stress or not.
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    - I'd like to ask you a personal question.
    - Go ahead.
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    - Where were you last night?
    - I was home.
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    - How about the night before that?
    - Come on! What is this?
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    No, it's all right.
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    I left the office at 8:30
    and went straight home and to bed.
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    And the night before that?
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    That was, uh, Tuesday night?
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    The night of the bridge tournament.
    I played bridge.
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    Monday night?
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    When you get down
    to New Year's Eve, 1954, let me know, huh?
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    Monday night?
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    Monday night, uh,
    my wife and I went to the movies.
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    - What did you see?
    - The Scarlet Circle.
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    - It was a clever whodunit.
    - What was the second feature?
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    The, um...
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    I'll tell you in a minute. The, uh...
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    Remarkable Mrs., uh, something...
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    The...
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    Mrs. Bainbridge.
    The Remarkable Mrs. Bainbridge.
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    I saw that.
    It's called The Amazing Mrs. Bainbridge.
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    Uh, yes. The Amazing Mrs. Bainbridge.
    I think that's right.
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    Who was in The Amazing Mrs. Bainbridge?
  • 71:40 - 71:44
    Barbara... Long, I think it was.
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    A dark, very pretty girl.
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    Ling or Long - something like that.
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    - Who else?
    - I'd never heard of them before.
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    It was a very inexpensive second feature
    with, uh, unknown...
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    And you weren't under
    an emotional stress, were you?
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    No.
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    I wasn't.
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    I think the point is made.
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    Big point!
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    You can talk till your tongue
    is draggin' on the floor.
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    The boy is guilty, period.
    You know what I mean, my friend?
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    - Who's got those cough drops?
    - They're all gone, my friend.
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    Oh, boy. Look at that rain.
  • 72:29 - 72:31
    There goes your ball game.
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    It's only a shower.
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    Besides, they got the infield covered.
  • 72:35 - 72:42
    Right. Say, could I see that knife
    a second, please?
  • 72:42 - 72:44
    Well, we're still tied up six to six.
  • 72:44 - 72:46
    Who's got a suggestion?
  • 72:46 - 72:48
    It's five after 6:00.
    Let's get some dinner.
  • 72:48 - 72:51
    Why don't we wait till 7:00,
    give it another hour, huh?
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    Okay with me.
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    Uh, there's something I'd like to say.
  • 72:55 - 72:59
    I mean, it's been bothering me a little,
    and as long as we're stuck.
  • 72:59 - 73:03
    Well, there was this whole business
    about the stab wound and how it was made...
  • 73:03 - 73:05
    the downward angle of it, you know?
  • 73:05 - 73:07
    Don't tell me we're gonna
    start with that again.
  • 73:07 - 73:08
    They've been over it and over it.
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    Well, I know they did,
    but I don't go along with it.
  • 73:11 - 73:15
    Now, the boy was 5 feet 7 inches tall.
    His father was 6'2...
  • 73:15 - 73:17
    That's a difference of seven inches.
  • 73:17 - 73:20
    It's a very awkward thing to stab down
    into the chest of someone...
  • 73:20 - 73:22
    who's more than half a foot
    taller than you are.
  • 73:22 - 73:24
    Give me that.
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    I'll give you a demonstration.
    Somebody get up.
  • 73:28 - 73:35
    You...
  • 73:35 - 73:38
    I want you to watch this 'cause
    I don't want to have to do it again.
  • 73:38 - 73:40
    I'll make myself about six
    or seven inches shorter, okay?
  • 73:40 - 73:51
    - It's about right. Maybe a little more.
    - Okay. A little more.
  • 73:51 - 73:55
    That's not funny.
  • 73:55 - 74:00
    Now, nobody's hurt. Right?
  • 74:00 - 74:05
    Right. Nobody hurt.
  • 74:05 - 74:10
    Now, this is the way I'd stab a man
    who was taller than I was.
  • 74:10 - 74:13
    Look at the angle - down and in.
  • 74:13 - 74:15
    And this is the way it was done.
  • 74:15 - 74:20
    Now tell me I'm wrong.
  • 74:20 - 74:23
    - Down and in. I guess there's no argument.
    - Hold it a minute, will ya?
  • 74:23 - 74:26
    Can you give me that?
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    Boy, I hate these things.
  • 74:28 - 74:30
    - Did you ever see a knife fight?
    - No.
  • 74:30 - 74:31
    - You?
    - No.
  • 74:31 - 74:34
    Anybody here ever see a knife fight?
  • 74:34 - 74:37
    Well, I have.
    You know, on my back stoop...
  • 74:37 - 74:40
    the lot across the street, backyard.
  • 74:40 - 74:42
    Switchblades came
    with the neighborhood where I lived.
  • 74:42 - 74:45
    It's funny I never thought of it before.
    I guess you try to forget those things.
  • 74:45 - 74:51
    - How do you use a switchblade?
    - Well, you'd never use it like this.
  • 74:51 - 74:55
    See, you use too much time
    switching hands.
  • 74:55 - 75:00
    Here's how - underhanded.
  • 75:00 - 75:03
    Anyone who's ever used a switch knife
    wouldn't handle it any other way.
  • 75:03 - 75:06
    - Are you sure?
    - I'm sure.
  • 75:06 - 75:08
    That's why they're made to open like that.
  • 75:08 - 75:10
    - You'd say the boy was pretty handy with a knife?
    - Mm-hmm.
  • 75:10 - 75:14
    You think he could have made
    the kind of wound that killed his father?
  • 75:14 - 75:18
    No. Not with the experience he'd had
    all his life handling these things.
  • 75:18 - 75:20
    I feel he'd have gone for him underhanded.
  • 75:20 - 75:23
    How do you know? Were you
    in the room when the father was killed?
  • 75:23 - 75:25
    No. Neither was anybody else.
  • 75:25 - 75:28
    So what are you giving us all this
    mumbo jumbo for? I don't believe it.
  • 75:28 - 75:31
    I don't think you can determine what type of
    wound the boy might or might not have made...
  • 75:31 - 75:34
    simply because he knew
    how to handle a knife.
  • 75:34 - 75:37
    What do you think?
  • 75:37 - 75:39
    - I don't know.
    - What do you mean you don't know?
  • 75:39 - 75:44
    I don't know.
  • 75:44 - 75:47
    How about you?
  • 75:47 - 75:51
    I don't know about the rest of them, but I'm getting a
    little tired of this yackety-yackin' back and forth.
  • 75:51 - 75:54
    It's gettin' us nowhere.
    So I guess I'll have to break it up.
  • 75:54 - 75:57
    I change my vote to not guilty.
  • 75:57 - 76:00
    - You what?
    - You heard me. I've had enough.
  • 76:00 - 76:02
    What do you mean you've had enough?
    That's no answer!
  • 76:02 - 76:07
    Hey, listen. You just take care
    of yourself, huh? You know?
  • 76:07 - 76:11
    He's right. That's not an answer.
  • 76:11 - 76:14
    What kind of a man are you?
  • 76:14 - 76:17
    You have sat here and voted guilty
    with everyone else...
  • 76:17 - 76:22
    because there are some baseball tickets
    burning a hole in your pocket.
  • 76:22 - 76:27
    And now you've changed your vote because you
    say you're sick of all the talking here?
  • 76:27 - 76:28
    Now listen, buddy!
  • 76:28 - 76:33
    Who tells you that you have the right
    to play like this with a man's life?
  • 76:33 - 76:36
    - Don't you care -
    - Now wait a minute!
  • 76:36 - 76:40
    - You can't talk like that to me!
    - I can talk like that to you.
  • 76:40 - 76:42
    If you want to vote not guilty...
  • 76:42 - 76:44
    then do it because you are convinced
    the man is not guilty...
  • 76:44 - 76:46
    not because you've had enough.
  • 76:46 - 76:49
    And if you think he is guilty,
    then vote that way.
  • 76:49 - 76:52
    Or don't you have the guts
    to do what you think is right?
  • 76:52 - 76:55
    - Now listen.
    - Guilty or not guilty?
  • 76:55 - 77:00
    - I told you, not guilty.
    - Why?
  • 77:00 - 77:02
    Look, I don't have to...
  • 77:02 - 77:05
    You do have to! Say it! Why?
  • 77:05 - 77:17
    All right. I don't, uh, think he's guilty.
  • 77:17 - 77:19
    I want another vote.
  • 77:19 - 77:22
    Okay. There's another vote called for.
  • 77:22 - 77:24
    I guess the quickest way is a show of hands.
    Anyone object?
  • 77:24 - 77:28
    Okay. All those voting not guilty,
    raise your hands.
  • 77:28 - 77:36
    One, two, three, four,
    five, six, seven...
  • 77:36 - 77:42
    eight.
  • 77:42 - 77:45
    Um, nine.
  • 77:45 - 77:50
    Um, all those voting guilty,
    raise your hands.
  • 77:50 - 77:53
    One, two, three.
  • 77:53 - 77:56
    Well, the vote's nine to three
    in favor of acquittal.
  • 77:56 - 77:58
    I don't understand you people!
  • 77:58 - 78:01
    I mean, all these picky little points
    you keep bringing up.
  • 78:01 - 78:04
    They don't mean nothing!
    You saw this kid just like I did.
  • 78:04 - 78:07
    You're not gonna tell me you believe
    that phony story about losing the knife...
  • 78:07 - 78:10
    and that business
    about being at the movies.
  • 78:10 - 78:13
    Look, you know how these people lie.
    It's born in them.
  • 78:13 - 78:15
    I mean, what the heck.
    I don't have to tell you.
  • 78:15 - 78:17
    They don't know what the truth is.
  • 78:17 - 78:21
    And let me tell you, they don't need
    any real big reason to kill someone either.
  • 78:21 - 78:23
    No, sir.
  • 78:23 - 78:26
    They get drunk!
    Oh, they're real big drinkers, all of 'em.
  • 78:26 - 78:29
    You know that.
    And bang - someone's lying in the gutter.
  • 78:29 - 78:32
    Well, nobody's blaming them for it.
    That's the way they are, by nature.
  • 78:32 - 78:34
    You know what I mean? Violent!
  • 78:34 - 78:36
    Where are you going?
  • 78:36 - 78:40
    Ηuman life don't mean
    as much to them as it does to us.
  • 78:40 - 78:43
    Look! They're lushing it up
    and fighting all the time...
  • 78:43 - 78:44
    and if somebody gets killed,
    so somebody gets killed!
  • 78:44 - 78:46
    They don't care!
  • 78:46 - 78:49
    Oh, sure, there's some good things
    about 'em too.
  • 78:49 - 78:51
    Look, I'm the first one to say that.
  • 78:51 - 78:54
    I've known a couple who were okay, but
    that's the exception, you know what I mean?
  • 78:54 - 78:58
    Most of 'em, it's like they have no feelings.
    They can do anything.
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    What's going on here?
  • 79:01 - 79:02
    I'm - I'm trying to tell ya...
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    you're making a big mistake, you people.
  • 79:05 - 79:10
    This kid is a liar!
    I know it. I know all about them.
  • 79:10 - 79:12
    Listen to me.
    They're no good.
  • 79:12 - 79:16
    There's not a one of 'em who's any good.
  • 79:16 - 79:19
    I mean, what -
    What's happening in here?
  • 79:19 - 79:22
    I'm speaking my piece, and you...
  • 79:22 - 79:25
    Listen to me.
  • 79:25 - 79:27
    I...
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    We're - This kid on trial here, his type...
  • 79:29 - 79:33
    Well, don't you know about them?
  • 79:33 - 79:37
    Th-There's - There's a danger here.
  • 79:37 - 79:39
    These people are dangerous.
  • 79:39 - 79:42
    They're... wild.
  • 79:42 - 79:44
    Listen to me.
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    - Listen.
    - I have.
  • 79:46 - 79:53
    Now sit down
    and don't open your mouth again.
  • 79:53 - 80:32
    I was only trying to... tell you.
  • 80:32 - 80:38
    It's always difficult to keep personal
    prejudice out of a thing like this.
  • 80:38 - 80:43
    Wherever you run into it,
    prejudice always obscures the truth.
  • 80:43 - 80:46
    I don't really know what the truth is.
  • 80:46 - 80:50
    I don't suppose anybody
    will ever really know.
  • 80:50 - 80:54
    Nine of us now seem to feel
    that the defendant is innocent.
  • 80:54 - 80:57
    But we're just gambling on probabilities.
  • 80:57 - 80:59
    We may be wrong.
  • 80:59 - 81:02
    We may be trying to let
    a guilty man go free.
  • 81:02 - 81:03
    I don't know.
  • 81:03 - 81:05
    Nobody really can.
  • 81:05 - 81:08
    But we have a reasonable doubt...
  • 81:08 - 81:11
    and that's something
    that's very valuable in our system.
  • 81:11 - 81:17
    No jury can declare a man guilty
    unless it's sure.
  • 81:17 - 81:20
    We nine can't understand...
  • 81:20 - 81:23
    how you three are still so sure.
  • 81:23 - 81:26
    - Maybe you can tell us.
    - I'll try.
  • 81:26 - 81:30
    You've made some excellent points, but I
    still believe the boy is guilty of murder...
  • 81:30 - 81:32
    and I have two reasons.
  • 81:32 - 81:35
    One, the evidence
    given by the woman across the street...
  • 81:35 - 81:38
    who actually saw the murder committed.
  • 81:38 - 81:41
    As far as I'm concerned,
    that's the most important testimony.
  • 81:41 - 81:44
    And two, the fact that she
    described the stabbing by saying...
  • 81:44 - 81:50
    she saw the boy raise his arm over his head
    and stab down into the father's chest.
  • 81:50 - 81:52
    She saw him do it the wrong way.
  • 81:52 - 81:54
    That's absolutely right.
  • 81:54 - 81:57
    Let's talk about this woman for a moment.
  • 81:57 - 82:00
    She said she went to bed
    about 11:00 that night.
  • 82:00 - 82:04
    Her bed was next to the window,
    and she could look out while lying down...
  • 82:04 - 82:08
    and see directly into the boy's room
    across the street.
  • 82:08 - 82:10
    She tossed and turned for over an hour,
    unable to sleep.
  • 82:10 - 82:15
    Finally, she turned toward the window
    at about 10 minutes after 12:00...
  • 82:15 - 82:20
    and, as she looked out, she saw the killing
    through the windows of a passing el train.
  • 82:20 - 82:23
    She said the lights went out
    immediately after the killing...
  • 82:23 - 82:28
    but that she got a good look at the boy
    in the act of stabbing his father.
  • 82:28 - 82:33
    As far as I can see it,
    this is unshakable testimony.
  • 82:33 - 82:41
    - Well, that's the whole case.
    - What do you think?
  • 82:41 - 82:44
    How about you?
  • 82:44 - 82:46
    I-I don't know.
  • 82:46 - 82:49
    So much evidence to sift.
  • 82:49 - 82:51
    This is a pretty complicated business.
  • 82:51 - 82:55
    Frankly, I don't see
    how you can vote for acquittal.
  • 82:55 - 82:57
    It's not so easy to arrange
    all the evidence in order.
  • 82:57 - 82:59
    You can throw out
    all the other evidence!
  • 82:59 - 83:03
    The woman saw him do it!
    What else do you want?
  • 83:03 - 83:05
    - Yeah, well, maybe -
    - Let's vote on it.
  • 83:05 - 83:07
    Okay. There's another vote called for.
  • 83:07 - 83:09
    Anybody object?
  • 83:09 - 83:12
    All right. I'm changing my vote.
    He's guilty.
  • 83:12 - 83:15
    Anybody else?
    The vote is eight to four.
  • 83:15 - 83:19
    Why is this such a personal triumph
    for you - this one vote?
  • 83:19 - 83:22
    Okay. I say we're a hung jury.
    I say we take it in to the judge.
  • 83:22 - 83:25
    Ηow about it?
    I want to hear arguments.
  • 83:25 - 83:30
    You, you're the leader of the cause.
    What about it?
  • 83:30 - 83:31
    Let's go over it again.
  • 83:31 - 83:34
    We've been over it again!
  • 83:34 - 83:38
    The boy in the gray flannel suit here is bouncin'
    backwards and forwards like a tennis ball.
  • 83:38 - 83:44
    No point in getting nasty
    and trying to turn this into a contest.
  • 83:44 - 83:46
    Okay.
  • 83:46 - 83:49
    Maybe we can talk about
    setting some kind of time limit.
  • 83:49 - 83:52
    Yeah, once around for the deal, huh?
  • 83:52 - 83:56
    It's a quarter after 6:00.
  • 83:56 - 83:58
    Someone before mentioned 7:00.
  • 83:58 - 84:00
    I think that's a point at which
    we might begin to discuss...
  • 84:00 - 84:03
    the question of whether
    we're a hung jury or not.
  • 84:03 - 84:06
    Don't you feel well?
  • 84:06 - 84:09
    I feel perfectly well, thank you.
  • 84:09 - 84:11
    I was saying that 7:00
    would be a reasonable time.
  • 84:11 - 84:14
    Uh, the reason I asked about that
    was because, uh...
  • 84:14 - 84:16
    you were rubbing your nose like...
  • 84:16 - 84:19
    Oh, I'm sorry for interrupting...
  • 84:19 - 84:22
    but you made a gesture
    that reminded me of something.
  • 84:22 - 84:24
    I'm trying to settle something here.
    Do you mind?
  • 84:24 - 84:27
    Well, I think this is important.
  • 84:27 - 84:29
    Thank you.
  • 84:29 - 84:32
    Now then,
    I'm sure you'll pardon me for this...
  • 84:32 - 84:34
    but I was wondering why
    you were rubbing your nose like that.
  • 84:34 - 84:37
    Oh, come on, will ya?
  • 84:37 - 84:41
    At this point, I happen to be talking
    to the gentleman sitting next to you!
  • 84:41 - 84:44
    Now, why were you rubbing
    your nose like that?
  • 84:44 - 84:48
    Well, if it's any of your business, I was
    rubbing it because it bothers me a little.
  • 84:48 - 84:50
    Oh. I'm sorry.
  • 84:50 - 84:54
    - Is it - Is it because of your eyeglasses?
    - It is.
  • 84:54 - 84:56
    Now can we get on to something else?
  • 84:56 - 85:01
    Your eyeglasses made those two
    deep impressions on the sides of your nose.
  • 85:01 - 85:03
    I hadn't noticed that before.
  • 85:03 - 85:06
    - That must be annoying.
    - It is very annoying.
  • 85:06 - 85:08
    Well, I wouldn't know about that.
  • 85:08 - 85:12
    I've never worn eyeglasses.
    Twenty-twenty.
  • 85:12 - 85:16
    Listen, will you come on already
    with the optometrist bit?
  • 85:16 - 85:20
    The woman who testified
    that she saw the killing...
  • 85:20 - 85:24
    had those same marks
    on the sides of her nose.
  • 85:24 - 85:27
    Holy smokes! You know, he's right.
  • 85:27 - 85:28
    Please.
  • 85:28 - 85:32
    Just give me a minute,
    and I'll be finished.
  • 85:32 - 85:35
    I don't know if anyone else
    noticed that about her.
  • 85:35 - 85:40
    I didn't think of it then,
    but I've been going over her face...
  • 85:40 - 85:42
    in my mind.
  • 85:42 - 85:45
    She had those same marks.
  • 85:45 - 85:51
    - She kept rubbing them in court.
    - He's right. She did do that a lot.
  • 85:51 - 85:55
    This woman was about, uh -
    about 45 years old.
  • 85:55 - 85:59
    She was making a tremendous effort
    to look 35...
  • 85:59 - 86:02
    for her first public appearance.
  • 86:02 - 86:05
    Heavy makeup, dyed hair...
  • 86:05 - 86:09
    brand-new clothes that should have
    been worn by a younger woman.
  • 86:09 - 86:11
    No glasses.
  • 86:11 - 86:12
    No, women do that.
  • 86:12 - 86:15
    See if you can get the
    mental picture of it.
  • 86:15 - 86:16
    What do you mean, no glasses?
  • 86:16 - 86:20
    How do you know whether she wore glasses?
    Just 'cause she was rubbing her nose?
  • 86:20 - 86:22
    Now, she had those marks. I saw 'em.
  • 86:22 - 86:24
    So what?
    What do ya think that means?
  • 86:24 - 86:27
    - Listen, I'm getting so sick of your yelling in here!
    - Come on. Forget it.
  • 86:27 - 86:30
    Hey, listen. Listen, he's right.
    I saw them too.
  • 86:30 - 86:34
    I was the closest one to her. She had these,
    uh - these things on the side of her nose.
  • 86:34 - 86:37
    - What do you call those on the side?
    - Well, what point are you making here?
  • 86:37 - 86:41
    She had dyed hair, marks on her nose.
    Well, what does that mean?
  • 86:41 - 86:49
    Could those marks be made
    by anything other than eyeglasses?
  • 86:49 - 86:51
    No, they couldn't.
  • 86:51 - 86:55
    I didn't see any marks!
  • 86:55 - 86:57
    I did.
  • 86:57 - 86:59
    Strange, but I didn't
    think about it before.
  • 86:59 - 87:01
    Well, what about the lawyer?
    Why didn't he say something?
  • 87:01 - 87:04
    There are 12 people in here
    concentrating on this case.
  • 87:04 - 87:07
    Eleven of us didn't think of it either.
  • 87:07 - 87:10
    Well, what about the district attorney?
    Do you think he'd pull a trick like that?
  • 87:10 - 87:11
    Have her testify without her glasses?
  • 87:11 - 87:16
    Did you ever see a woman who had to wear glasses and
    didn't want to because she thinks they spoil her looks?
  • 87:16 - 87:19
    Okay. She had marks on her nose.
  • 87:19 - 87:23
    I'm giving you that.
    From glasses, right?
  • 87:23 - 87:27
    She didn't want to wear 'em out of the house
    so people would think she's gorgeous.
  • 87:27 - 87:32
    But when she saw this kid killing his
    father, she was in the house alone.
  • 87:32 - 87:34
    That's all.
  • 87:34 - 87:40
    - Do you wear glasses when you go to bed?
    - No, I don't.
  • 87:40 - 87:42
    No one wears eyeglasses to bed.
  • 87:42 - 87:45
    It's logical to assume that she wasn't
    wearing them when she was in bed...
  • 87:45 - 87:47
    tossing and turning, trying to fall asleep.
  • 87:47 - 87:49
    - How do you know?
    - I don't know! I'm guessing.
  • 87:49 - 87:52
    I'm also guessing that she probably
    didn't put her glasses on...
  • 87:52 - 87:54
    when she turned
    to look casually out of the window.
  • 87:54 - 87:57
    And she herself testified the killing
    took place just as she looked out.
  • 87:57 - 88:00
    The lights went off a split second later.
    She couldn't have had time to put them on then.
  • 88:00 - 88:01
    - Wait a second.
    - Here's another guess.
  • 88:01 - 88:06
    Maybe she honestly thought she saw the boy
    kill his father. I say she only saw a blur.
  • 88:06 - 88:10
    How do you know what she saw?
    How does he know all that?
  • 88:10 - 88:13
    How do you know what kind of glasses she wore?
    Maybe they were sunglasses.
  • 88:13 - 88:15
    Maybe she was farsighted.
    What do you know about it?
  • 88:15 - 88:19
    I only know the woman's eyesight
    is in question now.
  • 88:19 - 88:24
    She had to be able to identify a person
    60 feet away, at night, without glasses.
  • 88:24 - 88:27
    You can't send someone off to die
    on evidence like that.
  • 88:27 - 88:29
    Oh, don't give me that.
  • 88:29 - 88:32
    Don't you think the woman
    might have made a mistake?
  • 88:32 - 88:34
    - No.
    - It's not possible?
  • 88:34 - 88:39
    No, it's not possible.
  • 88:39 - 88:42
    Is it possible?
  • 88:42 - 88:48
    Not guilty.
  • 88:48 - 88:50
    Do you think he's guilty?
  • 88:50 - 88:55
    I think he's guilty.
  • 88:55 - 89:00
    Do you?
  • 89:00 - 89:03
    No. I'm convinced.
  • 89:03 - 89:04
    Not guilty.
  • 89:04 - 89:06
    What's the matter with you?
  • 89:06 - 89:08
    I have a reasonable doubt now.
  • 89:08 - 89:10
    Eleven to one.
  • 89:10 - 89:13
    Well, what about all the other evidence?
    What about all that stuff?
  • 89:13 - 89:15
    The knife, the whole business!
  • 89:15 - 89:24
    Well, you said we could throw out
    all the other evidence.
  • 89:24 - 89:29
    Well, what do we do now?
  • 89:29 - 89:31
    You're alone.
  • 89:31 - 89:38
    I don't care whether I'm alone or not!
    It's my right.
  • 89:38 - 89:49
    It's your right.
  • 89:49 - 89:53
    Well, what do you want?
    I say he's guilty.
  • 89:53 - 89:57
    - We want to hear your arguments.
    - I gave you my arguments.
  • 89:57 - 90:00
    We're not convinced.
  • 90:00 - 90:02
    We want to hear them again.
  • 90:02 - 90:10
    We have as much time as it takes.
  • 90:10 - 90:15
    Everything - Every single thing
    that took place in that courtroom...
  • 90:15 - 90:17
    but I mean everything -
    says he's guilty.
  • 90:17 - 90:21
    What do you think,
    I'm an idiot or something?
  • 90:21 - 90:23
    Why don't you take that stuff
    about the old man?
  • 90:23 - 90:28
    The old man who lived there
    and heard everything.
  • 90:28 - 90:30
    Or this business about the knife.
  • 90:30 - 90:32
    What? 'Cause he found another one
    exactly like it?
  • 90:32 - 90:35
    The old man saw him
    right there on the stairs!
  • 90:35 - 90:39
    What's the difference
    how many seconds it was?
  • 90:39 - 90:43
    Every single thing.
  • 90:43 - 90:46
    The knife falling through
    a hole in his pocket.
  • 90:46 - 90:49
    You can't prove he didn't get to the door.
  • 90:49 - 90:52
    Sure, you can take all the time,
    hobble around the room.
  • 90:52 - 90:56
    But you can't prove it!
  • 90:56 - 91:00
    And what about this business
    of the el and the movies?
  • 91:00 - 91:03
    There's a phony deal
    if I ever heard one.
  • 91:03 - 91:07
    I'll bet ya $5,000
    I'd remember the movies I saw.
  • 91:07 - 91:10
    I'm telling ya,
    everything that's gone on...
  • 91:10 - 91:14
    has been twisted and turned!
  • 91:14 - 91:16
    This business with the glasses?
  • 91:16 - 91:21
    How do you know she didn't have them on?
    This woman testified in open court!
  • 91:21 - 91:25
    And what about hearing the kid yell, huh?
  • 91:25 - 91:29
    I'm telling ya, I've got
    all the facts here.
  • 91:29 - 91:34
    Here. Ah...
  • 91:34 - 91:44
    Well, that's it!
    That's the whole case.
  • 91:44 - 91:48
    Well?
  • 91:48 - 91:55
    Say something!
  • 91:55 - 91:59
    You lousy bunch of bleeding hearts.
  • 91:59 - 92:01
    You're not gonna intimidate me.
  • 92:01 - 92:06
    I'm entitled to my opinion.
  • 92:06 - 92:16
    Rotten kids.
    You work your life out!
  • 92:16 - 92:23
    I can't keep...
  • 92:23 - 92:28
    No.
  • 92:28 - 92:34
    Not guilty.
  • 92:34 - 92:38
    Not guilty.
  • 92:38 - 92:50
    Not...
  • 92:50 - 94:46
    Um, we're ready now.
  • 94:46 - 94:52
    Hey!
  • 94:52 - 94:54
    What's your name?
  • 94:54 - 94:56
    Davis.
  • 94:56 - 95:00
    My name's McCardle.
  • 95:00 - 95:02
    Well, so long.
  • 95:02 -
    So long.
Title:
12 Angry Men (1957)
Description:

12 Angry Men is a 1957 American drama film adapted from a teleplay of the same name by Reginald Rose. Directed by Sidney Lumet, the film tells the story of a jury made up of 12 men as they deliberate the guilt or acquittal of a defendant on the basis of reasonable doubt. In the United States (both then and now), the verdict in most criminal trials by jury must be unanimous one way or the other. The film is notable for its almost exclusive use of one set: with the exception of the film's opening, which begins outside on the steps of the courthouse and ends with the jury's final instructions before retiring, a brief final scene on the courthouse steps and two short scenes in an adjoining washroom, the entire movie takes place in the jury room. The total time spent outside of the jury room is three minutes out of the full 96 minutes of the movie.

12 Angry Men explores many techniques of consensus-building, and the difficulties encountered in the process, among a group of men whose range of personalities adds intensity and conflict. Apart from two of the jurors swapping names while leaving the courthouse, no names are used in the film: the defendant is referred to as "the boy" and the witnesses as the "old man" and "the lady across the street".

In 2007, 12 Angry Men was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_Angry_Men_%281957_film%29
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1000013-12_angry_men/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050083/

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