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Engaging with liberty: Zahira Asmal at TEDxBeloHorizonte

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    This weekend,
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    South Africans all over the world
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    are celebrating twenty years
    of our democracy.
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    Excuse-me if I get a little emotional,
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    because I'm celebrating with you.
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    I'm not back home,
    with my friends and my team,
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    but I'm here with you today,
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    and I hope all of you will celebrate
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    our twenty years of democracy.
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    (Applause)
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    When I was a teenager,
    twenty years ago,
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    my sister and I, on this very day,
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    were preparing, very busily,
    a lot of food
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    for the thousands of people that were
    going to be casting their vote
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    for the first time
    in South Africa's history,
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    the first time hundreds
    and thousands of South Africans
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    were going to vote.
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    And 67% of South Africa's
    voting population
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    voted for Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela,
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    fondly known to us as Madiba.
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    I met Madiba soon after he became
    president of South Africa.
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    I met him at Chief Albert Lutuli's house,
    in Groutville.
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    I lived close by.
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    And we talked about travel.
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    We talked about his favourite food,
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    which is beans, by the way.
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    And we talked about me
    wanting to be a designer,
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    and he told me about him studying law.
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    He said to me that it was
    very important for him to study law
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    and to know everything about it,
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    so he could change it for South Africa.
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    And so, as I grew older,
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    I started to reflect on this time
    with Mandela,
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    because he also told me -- which I didn't
    quite understand at the time,
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    because I thought we were a free nation,
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    back then, in 1994 --
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    but he reminded me,
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    he said that a lot of work
    still needed to be done.
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    And he said, "You wanted to be a designer?
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    We need designers.
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    We need so many people
    to do so much more."
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    Because he was saying to me
    that our democracy
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    was only a part of the journey to freedom.
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    I didn't understand it then.
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    And so, recently, I've been
    reflecting a lot about this,
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    about what he meant.
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    And I started to think about
    what I do with my life,
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    and how I've been...
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    maybe, what sacrifices have I been making?
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    You know, Madiba made so many sacrifices,
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    alongside so many other people.
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    And I wondered, what was I doing?
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    And so, when he died, last December,
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    I started to think
    about everything in my life:
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    my personal relationships, my work.
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    And I often would say to myself,
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    even in my darkest hour:
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    "What would Madiba do?"
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    You know, I come from a family
    that is a bit of a mixed bag.
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    We lived in tropical KwaZulu-Natal,
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    which is the province
    on the North East coast,
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    North East of South Africa.
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    I come from a small town,
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    and my mom is Persian,
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    and her mom is from Rangoon, in Burma.
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    And she's got flaming red hair,
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    a freckled face and amber eyes.
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    And my dad, he's South African
    of Indian descent.
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    His family has been in South Africa
    for four generations.
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    In our home, we spoke Gujarathi,
    and English, and isiZulu,
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    and we recited poetry in Arabic and Urdu.
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    So, we had a very colourful life.
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    Our home was very colourful,
    it was loud, full of debates,
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    and singing, and prayer.
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    And it was a happy childhood.
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    But outside, I knew that we were living
    a time of apartheid,
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    which was dark and gloomy.
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    It was a very ugly time in South Africa.
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    And I became aware, as a young girl,
    about apartheid,
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    because we were living
    in the Southern tip of Africa,
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    but I had to live in an Indians-only area,
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    and I had to go to an Indians-only school.
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    And every day, every moment,
    we had to classify ourselves,
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    we had to fill out forms,
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    always justifying who we were.
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    And we had these forms that were
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    "Engli..." Excuse-me,
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    "White", "Black", "Indian" and "Coloured".
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    And, sometimes, there would be "Other".
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    And I always ticked the "Other".
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    My dad was very frustrated.
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    And my dad loved to fish, you know.
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    He was quite a fisherman,
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    and so, we spent
    a lot of time on the beach.
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    We lived close to the Indian Ocean.
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    And I used to join my dad.
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    I don't think I was of any use,
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    but I went with him anyway.
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    On this one occasion,
    we got kicked off the beach.
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    Not very kindly, I might add.
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    And I asked my dad, I said, "Why are we
    getting kicked off the beach?"
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    And he said, "Zahira, we are Indian.
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    We're not allowed to be on this beach."
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    I said, "But dad, I learned at school
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    that this is the Indian Ocean.
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    I thought you owned the beach!" (Laughter)
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    And so, as a young girl,
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    I started to notice
    that something wasn't right.
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    And I didn't feel nice.
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    I didn't feel nice
    about what was happening.
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    I realized that what was in my home
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    was colourful, it was expansive.
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    What was outside was gloomy
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    and it was diminishing.
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    It was the dull times of apartheid.
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    And my family,
    like most South African people,
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    lived a life of awkward indignity.
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    We accepted very quietly
    our circumstances,
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    and it seemed also
    that the darker you got,
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    the worst you were treated.
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    We lived on the periphery of society,
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    with very little access
    to economic opportunity.
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    And so, as I grew older,
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    I became very socially
    and politically conscious.
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    I learned, while I was a teenager,
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    that Mandela was incarcerated,
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    and I learned why.
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    I learned that Chief Albert Luthuli --
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    who was our family friend
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    and who had lived in our family home
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    for several months
    when he was under house arrest --
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    when he was awarded
    the Nobel Peace Prize in 1960,
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    he had to be given
    "honorary white membership",
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    or "honorary white status",
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    just to travel to receive this prize.
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    I also learned that my uncle,
    Professor Kader Asmal,
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    was in exile for 37 years,
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    and he was living in Ireland.
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    And he was in exile
    because he was one of the founders
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    of the anti-apartheid movement in Europe.
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    So, I also learned
    that our phones were tapped.
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    Our house was visited
    by National Party officials
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    and my family was interrogated constantly
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    about my uncle's activities
    while in exile.
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    So, the government thought at the time
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    that my uncle should have been
    locked up with Mandela.
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    In those days, a group of black people
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    was considered an illegal protest,
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    instead of a social gathering and a party.
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    There was the Group Areas Act --
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    yeah, we had an act every so many years,
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    to restrain us and restrict us.
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    There was the Group Areas Act,
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    where we were forced to live
    with people of our own race.
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    Some of us were even forcibly
    removed from our homes
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    and made to live in squalor,
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    on the periphery of the cities.
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    There was the Bantu Education Act,
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    that limited people's education,
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    black people's education,
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    hence perpetuating their persecution.
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    There was the Land Act,
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    that made it impossible for us
    to own land in South Africa.
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    And my favourite was the Immorality Act,
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    which made it illegal
    to love someone of another race.
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    Students all over the country
    in South Africa,
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    in the 1970's, were being killed
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    by the South African Defence Force.
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    They were "protesting":
    they didn't want to study Afrikaans.
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    Black people all over the country
    were being killed.
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    They were "protesting":
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    they didn't want to use passbooks
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    that limited their movement
    around the country.
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    We all wanted to be free.
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    But I realized, at that time,
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    that no one was free:
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    not the victims, nor the persecutors.
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    We were slaves of colonial masters;
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    our cultures, considered
    unsophisticated.
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    We had to use back entrances
    to restaurants,
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    if we were allowed in the first place.
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    We were forbidden
    to visit many parts of South Africa.
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    Can you imagine?
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    All this space in a beautiful country,
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    and we couldn't access it.
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    I protested because I believed
    there was better.
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    I wished to be free,
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    not only to move around the country
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    and see beautiful things,
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    but also to be free to express myself,
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    and to just be me.
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    I wanted my colour, my culture,
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    my heritage, my language
    to matter like anyone else's.
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    Or not to matter, if it didn't matter.
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    I didn't want to live in fear.
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    I remember too
    that we were called South Africans,
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    but we didn't know what that meant.
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    We were so harshly
    excluded from activities,
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    important activities in South Africa --
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    "How can we be called South African?"
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    It just wasn't possible.
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    So, this time in South Africa's history
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    was so painful for so many people
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    that some can't speak about it even today.
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    So, I wondered then, twenty years on,
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    "What does freedom mean to us?"
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    I feel free, I feel free now,
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    and I don't take my freedom for granted.
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    I know what it felt like before,
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    and I never want to feel it again.
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    I don't even wish anyone else
    to feel what I felt,
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    as a young girl, living in South Africa.
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    And so, I engaged with my freedom
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    every single day
    and every moment of my life.
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    And so, my friends and my colleagues
    call me an activist.
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    Some of them say to me,
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    "Your conversations about apartheid
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    make me feel a little uncomfortable."
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    And I say to this,
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    "If you're feeling
    a little uncomfortable now,
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    imagine what it felt like in reality."
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    Some of them say to me,
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    "Get over apartheid, Zahira. It's over."
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    And I say, "Apartheid isn't over,
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    if so many South Africans are still living
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    with these harsh realities."
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    And then, some of my friends
    and colleagues say to me,
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    "Zahira, with your work and what you do,
    why do you bother?
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    Do something else more fun."
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    And I say: "Madiba reminded us
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    that the hard work is not done yet.
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    And besides, imagine if Madiba
    had to say, 'Why bother?'
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    Where would that
    leave South Africa today?"
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    So, I wonder, in countries
    like South Africa and Brazil,
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    what does freedom mean to us?
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    Both Brazil and South Africa
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    have the worst Gini coefficient
    in the world.
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    In social economic terms,
    that means that our countries,
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    our societies are the most divided.
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    So divided, in fact,
    that they probably will never meet.
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    In Brazil, and allow me to say,
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    some of your buildings
    have two separate entrances,
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    (Portuguese) "Service" and "Social".
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    In fact, most of the buildings
    I went to in São Paulo have this!
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    This is unacceptable!
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    This is two separate entrances for people!
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    This reminds me
    of my childhood in apartheid!
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    Dangerously close.
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    And the designers in this room:
    change that!
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    (Applause)
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    Too many South Africans
    are living bellow the red line.
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    Too many South Africans
    are living without education.
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    And too many South Africans
    are living without dignity.
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    That is unacceptable.
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    So, with thirty years
    of democracy in Brazil
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    and twenty years
    of democracy in South Africa,
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    what does it actually mean for us?
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    The challenges facing our democracy
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    should be seen as opportunities,
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    not -- excuse-me --
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    and processes of engagement,
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    and not problems to be solved.
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    People are not problems.
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    Through my work,
    I discovered in South Africa
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    things that have equally warmed my heart
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    and things that have made
    my hair stand on end.
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    I have seen people live with such dire --
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    in such dire conditions and circumstances,
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    that it made me so sad
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    that even my own circumstances as a child
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    paled in comparison.
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    Yet, these people --
    the thing that warmed my heart
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    was that they had so much hope
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    that there was going to be a better life.
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    If not for them, for their children
    and grandchildren.
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    They still have the hope
    that Madiba gave them
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    all those years ago:
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    that, through our freedom
    and through our democracy,
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    a better life will come to them.
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    And so, I realize at these moments,
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    when meeting these beautiful people
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    that share their lives with me
    so generously --
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    yet they have absolutely nothing --
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    I remember and recall
    Madiba's words to me
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    about the journey
    through freedom and emancipation
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    only started then, with our democracy.
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    So, freedom has to be
    negotiated, constantly.
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    And freedom has to be
    demonstrated, always.
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    But most of all,
    freedom needs to be shared.
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    For those of us with political freedom,
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    make certain
    that your governance policies
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    have the interest of all people at heart.
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    For those of us with economic freedom,
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    make certain that all people have homes,
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    that all people have access
    to quality services
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    and have access to education and learning.
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    For those of us with social freedom,
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    make certain you free yourself
    from hatred,
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    anger and jealousy.
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    Madiba reminds us that love
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    comes more naturally to the human heart.
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    Freedom isn't a competition,
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    and nor is it a race
    with a finishing line.
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    Our freedom should be like a relay:
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    we should pass it on to others.
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    So, I want all of us today,
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    while celebrating South Africa's
    twenty years of democracy,
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    that we should consider our lives,
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    we should consider our work.
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    Be sure to engage
    with your freedom, actively.
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    Be that activist!
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    Apply your craft
    for the emancipation of others,
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    whether you're a doctor,
    whether you're an engineer
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    a designer or an architect,
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    especially if you're a political leader.
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    Each day in our lives,
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    when we have moments of uncertainty,
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    or if we're looking for inspiration,
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    we should think to ourselves:
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    "What would Madiba do?"
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Engaging with liberty: Zahira Asmal at TEDxBeloHorizonte
Description:

On the day before the twentieth anniversary of South Africa's democracy, Zahira Asmal shared stories about her journey for freedom in her country. A personal, professional and political journey -- from times of segregation and exclusion to the pursuit of integration and inclusion.

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