Challenges and Rewards of a culturally-informed approach to mental health | Jessica Dere | TEDxUTSC
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0:00 - 0:06[Music]
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0:06 - 0:08{Applause.}
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0:08 - 0:10Thank you. It's truly an honor to be here.
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0:11 - 0:15I would like to start my talk today with a little exercise,
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0:15 - 0:17introducing you to a person named Pat.
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0:19 - 0:24Pat is 31 years old and lives at home with one sibling and their parents.
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0:25 - 0:27Pat has always lived in the family home.
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0:27 - 0:30And would not consider moving out to live alone.
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0:30 - 0:31Except after getting married.
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0:32 - 0:35Pat's parents always play a significant role
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0:35 - 0:40in making decisions about all aspects of Pat's life
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0:40 - 0:45including education, work decisions, Pat's friendships and romantic life.
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0:46 - 0:48This has been the case since Pat was a child.
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0:49 - 0:53Pat rarely makes decisions without consulting family members
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0:53 - 0:55and rarely expresses disagreement with others
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0:55 - 0:59out of fear of disapproval or loss of support.
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1:00 - 1:02Pat feels very uncomfortable when alone
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1:02 - 1:06and tends to cling to others out of fear of being abandoned.
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1:08 - 1:10Now take a moment to picture Pat.
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1:11 - 1:14Are you picturing a young man?
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1:14 - 1:15A young woman?
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1:16 - 1:20Are you picturing a person of a particular ethnic or cultural background.
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1:20 - 1:23Maybe similar to your own. Or different.
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1:23 - 1:26And consider for a moment whether such information
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1:26 - 1:29would make a difference in how you think about Pat
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1:29 - 1:34and whether or not you think that Pat might have some kind of mental health concern.
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1:36 - 1:38Now what if I added the following information.
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1:39 - 1:41Specifying that Pat is Patricia Lee
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1:41 - 1:45and that she and her family immigrated to Canada from China
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1:45 - 1:46when she was five years old.
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1:48 - 1:49Or the following.
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1:49 - 1:53Where Pat is Patrick Smith whose maternal and paternal grandparents
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1:53 - 1:59immigrated to Canada from the United Kingdom and whose parents grew up in the Toronto area.
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2:00 - 2:02Judging from some faces that I can see,
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2:02 - 2:07this information indeed makes a difference in how you think about Pat.
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2:07 - 2:10Simply adding some basic demographic information,
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2:10 - 2:14can significantly shift how we think about the very same behaviors.
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2:15 - 2:19This exercise has elicited similar responses in my classroom
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2:19 - 2:22when I have used it in teaching about personality disorders,
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2:22 - 2:25which offer a particularly striking example
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2:25 - 2:29of the need to consider cultural factors when defining mental illness,
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2:29 - 2:35since they are themselves defined by patterns of behavior that deviate from cultural expectations.
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2:38 - 2:42I use this exercise to introduce the role of cultural factors
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2:42 - 2:45in thinking about mental health and illness
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2:45 - 2:49and to introduce the central idea that culture matters.
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2:51 - 2:53In my experience, once introduced to this idea,
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2:53 - 2:56people seem to intuitively know that culture
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2:56 - 3:00makes a difference when thinking about mental health and mental illness.
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3:00 - 3:03Without specifically talking about cultural differences
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3:03 - 3:07in things like parent-child relationships, independence and interdependence,
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3:07 - 3:09or assertiveness,
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3:09 - 3:14we seem to just know that it makes a difference if we're talking about Patricia or Patrick.
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3:15 - 3:20But not only does culture matter when it comes to mental health, it is fundamental.
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3:20 - 3:23Many people including myself argue
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3:23 - 3:27that a culturally informed approach is really critical to effective healthcare.
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3:28 - 3:32And that only by including cultural factors in our discussions of this field
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3:32 - 3:34will we truly make advances.
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3:35 - 3:38Recently a group of medical and social scientists
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3:38 - 3:41writing in one of the world's most prestigious medical journals,
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3:41 - 3:42stated the following:
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3:43 - 3:48That the systematic neglect of culture in health and healthcare
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3:48 - 3:54is the single biggest barrier to the advancement of the highest standard of health worldwide.
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3:55 - 4:01A pretty powerful statement. So this is great.
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4:01 - 4:04I see a number of you nodding and you seem to be in agreement
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4:04 - 4:08that reflecting on Pat illustrates for you at least at a basic level
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4:08 - 4:13the importance of considering cultural questions when it comes to mental health.
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4:13 - 4:17But stopping here would be problematic for a number of reasons.
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4:17 - 4:22First of all I still have 15 minutes and 52 seconds left on the clock.
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4:23 - 4:24But more importantly,
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4:24 - 4:28stopping here could serve to reinforce certain cultural stereotypes.
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4:28 - 4:31Contrasting the Lees versus the Smiths.
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4:32 - 4:34And would not really leave you with any idea of how to actually
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4:34 - 4:37go about considering cultural factors.
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4:38 - 4:42Or worse, it might leave you with an overly simplistic idea of how to do this.
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4:42 - 4:46Suggesting perhaps that simply knowing a person's ethnic background
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4:46 - 4:49or immigration history provides enough information
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4:49 - 4:53to really understand the meaning of their behaviors and relationships.
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4:54 - 4:58So acknowledging that culture matters is a crucial initial step,
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4:58 - 5:00sort of like the first piece of a puzzle.
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5:00 - 5:03But we need to go much further.
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5:05 - 5:07So if knowing Pat's cultural background
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5:07 - 5:10is like having a first piece of the puzzle, much more
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5:10 - 5:14needs to be learned before getting even close to a complete picture.
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5:14 - 5:18For example, based on common cultural ideas,
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5:18 - 5:22you may have had the sense that the description of Pat's behavior
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5:22 - 5:25became somehow more acceptable when it was Patricia.
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5:25 - 5:29A young woman of Chinese-Canadian background.
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5:29 - 5:34Compared to Patrick, a young man and second generation Canadian of British descent.
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5:35 - 5:38However, although interdependence and social harmony
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5:38 - 5:42are values more commonly endorsed among people of Chinese background
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5:42 - 5:45compared to western European background,
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5:45 - 5:52is it necessarily the case that Patricia's parents are happy with her level of dependence on them?
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5:52 - 5:58Maybe their migration to Canada was driven by their own traits of independence.
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5:58 - 6:00And they are really quite concerned that their daughter
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6:00 - 6:04has not developed greater autonomy or self-reliance.
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6:04 - 6:08Maybe Patricia has never felt that she fits in among her peers
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6:08 - 6:14and really feels incapable of attaining the level of independence as encouraged by her parents.
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6:14 - 6:18On the other hand, although independence and autonomy
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6:18 - 6:21are commonly endorsed values in North America,
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6:21 - 6:24maybe it's normative within Patrick's family
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6:24 - 6:29to defer to one's parents and to view life decisions as communal endeavors.
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6:30 - 6:34These examples illustrate that we cannot simply make sweeping assumptions
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6:34 - 6:37about people purely based on their cultural background,
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6:38 - 6:41nor can we make simple comparisons or distinctions between people
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6:41 - 6:44simply because they're from different contexts.
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6:45 - 6:51Now this might suggest to you then that cultural information is of not much use at all
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6:51 - 6:56and that we should simply focus on the individual and their unique experiences.
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6:57 - 7:00But this would also be problematic and incomplete
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7:00 - 7:04because to truly understand Patricia Lee's experience
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7:04 - 7:10we must know that her parents' level of emphasis on independence may be relatively uncommon --
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7:10 - 7:13uncommon within their cultural community.
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7:14 - 7:16And on the other hand, or similarly,
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7:16 - 7:21Patrick Smith's experience of his level of dependence upon his family
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7:21 - 7:24would likely carry different meaning if he and his family
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7:24 - 7:29were from a cultural community that particularly emphasized family bonds.
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7:30 - 7:35So in other words, in order to really develop a full understanding of mental health,
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7:35 - 7:40we must develop an understanding of individuals in context.
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7:41 - 7:48So this discussion illustrates one of the key challenges of a culturally informed approach to mental health.
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7:48 - 7:51And in teaching this field to undergraduate students
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7:51 - 7:57I have the privileged opportunity of working with them as they wrestle with these varied types of challenges.
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7:58 - 8:03The path that I often see my students take is one of initial excitement
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8:03 - 8:06as they engage with the idea that culture matters
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8:06 - 8:09and often tend to appreciate the indepth discussion of a topic
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8:09 - 8:13that tends to be lacking or minimized in teachings about mental health.
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8:14 - 8:20This initial excitement, though, then turns often to some level of feeling overwhelmed
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8:20 - 8:24as they begin to really grapple with the complexity of culture
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8:24 - 8:29and begin to recognize the number of different factors to consider and questions to pose.
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8:30 - 8:33In helping my students to navigate these questions
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8:33 - 8:37it has helped me to distill my own thinking about this field
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8:37 - 8:38and how best to teach it.
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8:39 - 8:44I recognize that dealing with cultural matters can indeed be daunting.
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8:44 - 8:51And I also have the concern that feeling overwhelmed can sometimes lead to the avoidance of new ideas or experiences.
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8:52 - 8:53So with that in mind,
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8:53 - 8:58I propose two related suggestions that I believe can help people to engage
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8:58 - 9:01with a culturally informed approach to mental health
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9:01 - 9:08rather than avoid it. And these are to take a stance of informed curiosity,
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9:08 - 9:12and to ask different questions and ask questions differently.
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9:14 - 9:17So a stance of informed curiosity stands in contrast
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9:17 - 9:20to some models of culture and mental health
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9:20 - 9:24which suggests that one needs to be an expert in a particular cultural group
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9:24 - 9:29in order to work with or understand the experiences of a member of that group.
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9:30 - 9:32For example many articles and book chapters
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9:32 - 9:36talk about working with Asian clients or working with Hispanic clients.
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9:37 - 9:40Although well intentioned, that type of approach
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9:40 - 9:44can inadvertently lead to the perpetuation of cultural stereotypes.
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9:44 - 9:47There's the assumption, at least at some level,
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9:47 - 9:50that members of a given group share values,
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9:50 - 9:54beliefs and experiences simply based on group membership.
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9:55 - 9:59Though that can be the case, it is certainly not necessarily true.
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9:59 - 10:01A clinician working from such a perspective
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10:01 - 10:05may have easily assumed that Patricia Lee's level of dependence
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10:05 - 10:08upon her family was encouraged or supported.
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10:10 - 10:13I have also always found the more expertise based approach
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10:13 - 10:16problematic from a personal perspective.
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10:16 - 10:20As the daughter of a Chinese-Canadian father and Anglo-Canadian mother,
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10:20 - 10:24born and raised in bilingual Montreal with English as a first language,
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10:24 - 10:27there is unlikely to ever be a book chapter devoted
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10:27 - 10:30to working with people of my particular cultural makeup.
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10:31 - 10:35I think my own lived experience as a person of mixed cultural heritage,
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10:35 - 10:40informs my thinking about culture and how it plays a role in mental health.
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10:41 - 10:44And my experience also plays a role in my emphasis
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10:44 - 10:48on a stance of informed curiosity rather than expertise.
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10:49 - 10:52I believe that such a stance promotes an attitude of humility
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10:52 - 10:55and really encourages one to develop hypotheses
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10:55 - 10:59and questions rather than make assumptions.
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11:00 - 11:04So one of the key ways that I work to promote a stance of informed curiosity
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11:04 - 11:08among my students is by helping them to ask different questions
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11:08 - 11:11and ask questions differently about mental health.
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11:12 - 11:16My own passion for the area of culture and mental health really began
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11:16 - 11:20when I took a course, an introductory course in medical anthropology
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11:20 - 11:22in the second year of my undergraduate studies.
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11:23 - 11:25This course proved to be a key turning point
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11:25 - 11:28in my academic path and looking back,
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11:28 - 11:30I think that one of its lasting effects
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11:30 - 11:35was that it forced me to ask different questions about health and mental health,
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11:35 - 11:39questions to which I had not previously been exposed in my psychology courses.
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11:40 - 11:41Working with a different discipline,
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11:41 - 11:48with its own set of theories and frameworks also instilled in me the value of asking questions differently.
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11:49 - 11:54In many ways that forced me to re-evaluate ideas I had previously taken for granted.
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11:54 - 12:00And that type of experience is often at the heart of cultural discussions about mental health.
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12:01 - 12:07The interdisciplinary nature of my early experience also corresponds to the interdisciplinarity
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12:07 - 12:11that often characterizes discussions of culture and mental health.
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12:11 - 12:15Thinking back to that image of the complex set of puzzle pieces,
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12:15 - 12:22a cultural approach to mental health truly benefits from the integration of different perspectives.
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12:22 - 12:26Each offering their own sets and types of questions.
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12:27 - 12:30Now taking a stance of informed curiosity
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12:30 - 12:36by no means minimizes the importance of developing indepth knowledge in cultural matters.
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12:36 - 12:39Rather, the emphasis is on how to engage with this knowledge
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12:40 - 12:43with a focus really on gaining awareness
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12:43 - 12:48of the wide range of cultural differences that exist in human experience.
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12:48 - 12:52So as to be equipped to pose informed questions.
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12:53 - 12:55We know from cultural psychology research
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12:55 - 12:58that there are significant cultural differences
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12:58 - 13:00across the spectrum of psychological domains.
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13:01 - 13:04Including in cognitive and perceptual processes
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13:04 - 13:08regarded as basic and therefore often assumed to be universal.
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13:09 - 13:12For example, we know that there are significant cultural differences
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13:12 - 13:18in how people perceive the world such as to what extent they focus on background information
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13:18 - 13:23when examining a photograph, versus focusing on the photograph's central figure.
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13:23 - 13:25We also know that there are significant differences
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13:25 - 13:31in how people think about the world such as to what extent they use contextual information
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13:31 - 13:33when grouping different objects together.
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13:34 - 13:37These types of differences suggest that some of you may be viewing
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13:37 - 13:40the slide behind me as a single wholistic image
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13:41 - 13:45whereas others may be more focused on specific constituent parts.
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13:47 - 13:49More directly relevant to mental health,
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13:49 - 13:52we also know that cultural context plays a profound role
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13:52 - 13:55in what types of emotions people most value
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13:55 - 14:00and want to feel and how and with whom they express those emotions.
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14:01 - 14:02In some cultural contexts,
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14:02 - 14:06feeling proud is closely associated with generally feeling good.
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14:07 - 14:11Whereas in other contexts the individual focus that pride entails
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14:11 - 14:18makes it less desirable and there is a large literature demonstrating important cultural differences
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14:18 - 14:21in how people define the very notion of the self.
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14:22 - 14:27For some, the self is truly an autonomous and individual entity whereas for others,
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14:27 - 14:32their ideas about the self include close interpersonal connections.
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14:33 - 14:35So cultural differences in domains such as these
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14:35 - 14:39should directly inform our thinking about mental health and illness.
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14:39 - 14:43If culture plays such a profound role when things are going right,
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14:43 - 14:47it must surely play a similar role when things go awry.
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14:48 - 14:52How people experience profound shifts in their emotional life
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14:52 - 14:57is deeply influenced by their values and beiefs about emotions
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14:57 - 15:01and when and with whom it is appropriate to share their emotions.
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15:01 - 15:05In some cultural contexts, physical symptoms of major depression
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15:05 - 15:10tend to be more strongly emphasized compared to psychological symptoms.
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15:10 - 15:15And this may be linked to cultural differences in values about emotions.
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15:17 - 15:21So at this point, I have likely convinced you of a number of the challenges
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15:21 - 15:24of taking a culturally informed approach to mental health
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15:24 - 15:28and I have offered some suggestions about how to engage with these challenges.
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15:29 - 15:34But hopefully I have also at least planted the seed that there are rewards to be had as well.
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15:35 - 15:40Not surprisingly I personally believe that the rewards at the level of research,
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15:40 - 15:45clinical care and teaching about mental health are numerous and profound.
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15:45 - 15:48And ultimately far outweigh the challenges.
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15:49 - 15:55At a research level, in order to build a comprehensive understanding of mental illness,
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15:55 - 15:57we must integrate cultural factors.
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15:58 - 16:01As suggested by the quote near the start of my talk,
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16:01 - 16:03"We neglect culture at our own peril."
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16:04 - 16:08If what it means to be sad and to share this sadness with others,
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16:08 - 16:12is profoundly impacted by our values and beliefs about emotion,
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16:12 - 16:16then we will never develop a complete understanding of severe sadness
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16:16 - 16:19or depression without a cultural approach.
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16:21 - 16:23From a clinical perspective,
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16:23 - 16:27integrating cultural factors into our assessment of a person's distress
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16:27 - 16:34is crucial to really understand their experience and can contribute to improved treatment.
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16:34 - 16:40We know from research that treatments that integrate a person's own cultural beliefs
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16:40 - 16:45about the causes of their distress are more effective than treatments that do not.
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16:46 - 16:49How best to integrate cultural factors into treatment
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16:49 - 16:53is an area of ongoing investigation and debate
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16:53 - 16:57but begins with the argument that culture makes a difference.
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16:59 - 17:02And thirdly at the level of learning about mental health,
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17:02 - 17:05for students and the general public more broadly,
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17:05 - 17:10the rewards of a culturally informed approach include greater open mindedness,
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17:11 - 17:16increased understanding of experiences different from one's own and less stereotyping.
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17:17 - 17:23This approach also offers new perspectives about ideas already learned about mental health.
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17:24 - 17:27These are all rewards that my own students have specifically talked about
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17:27 - 17:31when discussing the benefits of learning about this field.
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17:32 - 17:37So my hope then for today is that you walk away with some of this increased open mindedness,
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17:37 - 17:42curiosity, and an interest in asking different questions about mental health,
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17:43 - 17:48all rooted in the central premise that culture matters.
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17:48 - 17:49Thank you.
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17:49 - 17:53{Applause.}.
- Title:
- Challenges and Rewards of a culturally-informed approach to mental health | Jessica Dere | TEDxUTSC
- Description:
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Dr. Jessica Dere explains how culture makes a difference when thinking about mental health and mental illness. Across mental health research, clinical care and teaching, there are profound rewards to be had by truly understanding individuals in context.
Dr. Jessica Dere is a clinical lecturer in the Department of Psychology and the Graduate Department of Psychological Clinical Science at UTSC. She obtained her Ph.D in Clinical Psychology from Concordia University in 2012, and completed a post-doctoral fellowship in the Social Aetiology of Mental Illness (SAMI) training program at the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health (CAMH). Her research interests include the role of cultural factors in emotional processes and cultural variations in symptom presentation of depression and anxiety.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
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- Duration:
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