(h) TROM - 3.2 Resource Based Economy
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[ RESOURCE BASED ECONOMY ] -
0:32 - 0:36A Resource Based Economy
is based on pure logic. -
0:38 - 0:41If you go on a mountain expedition
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0:41 - 0:43you calculate how much food you have,
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0:43 - 0:48how many people there are
and how long the trip will be. -
0:48 - 0:53You then, arrive at a decision about the
resources you need for the expedition. -
0:58 - 1:03If you send a spacecraft to the moon,
you will need to analyse the situation -
1:03 - 1:07to find out what resources are
necessary for your expedition. -
1:07 - 1:10You will take into account the food,
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1:10 - 1:15the number of people going on this expedition,
and the fuel for such a journey. -
1:21 - 1:25If you, like a species, want to populate another planet,
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1:25 - 1:32first you analyze what resources are available,
and how many people such a planet can sustain. -
1:35 - 1:39Well, it's the exact same thing with planet Earth,
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1:39 - 1:45only that here the monetary system does not
take into account the planetary resources. -
1:48 - 1:55Luckily for us, there is already a plan to organise our world.
It is called The Venus Project. -
1:55 - 2:04THE VENUS PROJECT
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2:21 - 2:24A nation without a vision of what the future can be,
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2:24 - 2:28is bound to repeat past errors, over and over again.
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2:28 - 2:32This brief video will 'outline' a vision designed
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2:32 - 2:34to avoid making the same mistakes.
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2:34 - 2:39A vision of efficiency, sustainability,
and intelligent planning. -
2:39 - 2:42A vision to lead us into a marvelous new world
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2:42 - 2:45of unlimited human potential.
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2:46 - 2:50This vision could be a showcase
of what the world can be, -
2:50 - 2:52in our cybernated age.
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2:52 - 2:56Science and technology, could be used for human betterment,
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2:56 - 3:00and the restoration and protection of the environment,
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3:00 - 3:05serving as an example of the intelligent
application of a systems approach. -
3:05 - 3:09While some people advocate the restoration
of existing worn out cities, -
3:09 - 3:14this effort falls short of the potential
modern technology offers. -
3:14 - 3:19Repairing current cities results in higher
costs of operation and maintenance. -
3:19 - 3:25It is actually less expensive, in the long run,
to build newer cities from the ground up, -
3:25 - 3:29than to restore and maintain old ones.
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3:29 - 3:31A Total City System approach
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3:31 - 3:35requires overall planning to attain
the highest standard of living -
3:35 - 3:37for all their city's occupants.
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3:37 - 3:43The circular arrangement efficiently permits the
most sophisticated use of available resources, -
3:43 - 3:48and construction techniques, with a
minimum expenditure of energy. -
3:48 - 3:53The most advanced amenities that modern
science and technology can provide -
3:53 - 3:55could be made available to everyone.
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3:55 - 3:58The city could be a help and learning center,
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3:58 - 4:00where people from all over the world visit,
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4:00 - 4:05and hopefully emulate this design approach
in other parts of the world. -
4:05 - 4:08Design considerations for this new city include:
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4:08 - 4:16Its assembling, the reduction of maintenance, efficient
transportation, and its simplicity and durability. -
4:16 - 4:22This would include the flexibility to
permit on going, and later changes. -
4:22 - 4:26The city would function as an
evolving, integrated organism, -
4:26 - 4:29rather than a static structure.
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4:29 - 4:36This system's approach envisions assembling entire cities,
by standardized basic structural elements, -
4:36 - 4:41which are prefabricated in automated
plants, and assembled on site. -
4:41 - 4:45Many of these buildings would be
comprised of standard units, -
4:45 - 4:49that can be arranged to meet
many different requirements. -
4:49 - 4:53This approach means that this city
can be extremely cost-efficient, -
4:53 - 4:56because only one sector needs to be designed,
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4:56 - 5:01which can be duplicated repeatedly for
the completion of an entire city. -
5:03 - 5:07The outer perimeter would be
part of the recreation area, -
5:07 - 5:09with golf courses, hiking and
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5:09 - 5:12biking trails and opportunities
for water sports. -
5:13 - 5:20Inside this area, a waterway surrounds an agricultural
belt, with indoor and outdoor agriculture. -
5:22 - 5:24Continuing into the city center,
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5:24 - 5:29eight green sectors provide clean,
renewable resources of energy, -
5:29 - 5:33using wind, solar, and heat concentrators.
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5:34 - 5:40Waste recycling, and other services,
are located beneath the city. -
5:40 - 5:43The plan utilizes the best
of clean technology, -
5:43 - 5:46and harmony with the surrounding environment.
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5:52 - 5:58The residential district features beautiful landscaping,
with lakes and winding streams. -
6:04 - 6:11A wide range of creative, innovative apartment
buildings and individual, unique homes, -
6:11 - 6:14would provide many options for the occupants.
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6:16 - 6:21New and innovated methods of vast mass
construction for housing and building systems, -
6:21 - 6:27would inject composed materials into a mold,
and then extrude the form upward. -
6:27 - 6:30In some cases, multiple city apartments
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6:30 - 6:33can be produced as continuous extrusions,
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6:33 - 6:36which are then separated into individual units.
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6:37 - 6:41Cranes transport the prefabricated dwellings to site locations,
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6:41 - 6:45they are then lifted and inserted into a support structure.
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6:48 - 6:52The apartments are lightweight and high strength.
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6:52 - 6:56All of these dwellings are designed
as self contained residences. -
6:56 - 7:02The outer surface of these efficient structures
serve as photovoltaic generators, -
7:02 - 7:06converting solar radiation directly
into electricity for heating, -
7:06 - 7:08cooling and other needs.
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7:08 - 7:13The thermocouple effect would also
be used for generating electricity. -
7:13 - 7:19The wide range of individual homes are prefabricated
and relatively maintenance free, -
7:19 - 7:22fire resistant and impervious to weather.
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7:22 - 7:27With this type of construction, there will be
little or no damage from floods, -
7:27 - 7:29earthquakes or hurricanes.
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7:29 - 7:35Their thin shell construction can be mass
produced, efficiently and economically. -
7:35 - 7:42New energy efficient systems can be installed to supply
enough power to operate the entire household. -
7:50 - 7:56Adjacent to the residential district, there are
planning, science and research centers. -
7:58 - 8:02Eight domes, surrounding the central dome, house art,
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8:02 - 8:07music, exhibition, entertainment and conference centers.
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8:07 - 8:14Lovely parks, lakes, streams and waterfalls,
are located throughout the entire city. -
8:14 - 8:21The central dome, or “Theme center”, contains
schools, health care, distribution center, -
8:21 - 8:25communications networking, and childcare.
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8:25 - 8:28It is also the core for most transportation services,
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8:28 - 8:35which move people by transveyors, horizontally,
vertically and radially anywhere in the city. -
8:35 - 8:41This minimizes the need for automobile transportation,
except for emergency vehicles. -
8:48 - 8:52Transportation between cities would be by monorails.
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8:55 - 9:03The central dome would eventually house a cybernated complex, which serves as the brain and nervous system of the entire city.
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9:03 - 9:09It projects a 3D, virtual image of Earth, using
satellite communication systems -
9:09 - 9:16which display information on weather, agriculture,
transportation and the operation of the whole city. -
9:16 - 9:20This cybernated system would use
environmental sensors, -
9:20 - 9:23to help maintain a balance load economy,
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9:23 - 9:26which avoids surplus and shortages.
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9:26 - 9:33For example, in the agricultural belt, electronic probes
monitoring and maintain the soil conditions, -
9:33 - 9:36water table, nutrients and more.
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9:36 - 9:42This method of electronic feedback can
be applied to the entire city complex. -
9:42 - 9:47With computers now able to process trillions
of bits of information per second, -
9:47 - 9:53they are vital for arriving at correct decisions
for the management of these innovated cities. -
9:53 - 9:59Some of these cities may be total enclosure
systems, which are self-efficient. -
9:59 - 10:04These massive structures would contain
residences, parks, recreation, -
10:04 - 10:09entertainment, health care,
educational facilities and more. -
10:09 - 10:11Everything built in these cities
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10:11 - 10:15would be as near to a self-contained
system as conditions allow. -
10:19 - 10:25In this total enclosure arrangement, the skyscraper
assures that more land is available for parks, -
10:25 - 10:31and wilderness preserves, while at the same
time, eliminating urban sprawl. -
10:33 - 10:38Wherever possible, geothermal
energy can be harnessed. -
10:38 - 10:43Geothermal power offers the possibility of
an abundant source of clean energy. -
10:43 - 10:48This source alone can provide enough energy
for the next thousand years. -
10:50 - 10:55Regional transportation systems would include
a network of waterways and canals. -
10:56 - 11:01These bodies of water could minimize
the threat of floods, and droughts, -
11:01 - 11:04by diverting flood-waters to storage basins.
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11:04 - 11:10In addition, these canals could supply water for
irrigation, fish farms, and recreation. -
11:10 - 11:14The canals can also be used for desalinization,
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11:14 - 11:18using a method of evaporative condensation.
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11:18 - 11:22A network of tunnels could facilitate
transportation of passengers, -
11:22 - 11:29and freight across the Sahara Desert, to all the Earth’s
regions, free of the effects of sandstorms. -
11:29 - 11:34These tunnels would be located thirty,
to forty feet below the desert surface, -
11:34 - 11:37with ventilators every thousand metres.
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11:37 - 11:44Water could be pumped from below the surface of the Sahara,
and transported to all the Earth’s regions. -
11:48 - 11:53In some instances, ships could serve
as floating automated plants, -
11:53 - 12:00capable of processing raw materials, into finished
products while en route to their destinations. -
12:02 - 12:08Huge ships and submarines, with many removable
and interchangeable compartments, -
12:08 - 12:11would carry freight across the oceans.
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12:11 - 12:15Rather than separated containers,
an entire freight section -
12:15 - 12:18can be automatically disengaged at the port.
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12:20 - 12:26Bridge designs would be greatly simplified, and
bridges can be made corrosion resistant. -
12:26 - 12:32They would be prefabricated and transported
to the site, by twin hold catamarans. -
12:32 - 12:36On some bridges, trains could be
suspended beneath traffic lines. -
12:40 - 12:45Colonization of the oceans is one of
the last frontiers remaining on Earth. -
12:46 - 12:51Prodigious oceanic city communities,
would evolve as artificial islands, -
12:51 - 12:56floating structures, undersea observatories, and more.
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12:56 - 13:02These large marine structures are designed to explore
the relatively untapped riches of the oceans, -
13:02 - 13:08and provide improved mariculture, fresh water
production, energy and mining. -
13:08 - 13:11This could offset land based shortages.
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13:11 - 13:21They could also provide almost unlimited riches in pharmaceuticals,
chemicals, fertilizers, minerals, oil and natural gas. -
13:21 - 13:24Ocean cities would be resistant to earthquakes,
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13:24 - 13:28and greatly relieve land based population pressures.
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13:28 - 13:33The population would vary, from several
hundred, to many thousand. -
13:33 - 13:37Underwater oceanic viewing and research facilities,
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13:37 - 13:42provide expansive panoramic observations
of the undersea world, -
13:42 - 13:46in its natural habitat, without disturbing
the ocean environment. -
13:46 - 13:53Unsinkable floating sea domes, would attract those
who prefer unique offshore or island living. -
13:53 - 13:58In the event of inclement weather,
they could easily be towed ashore, -
13:58 - 14:02mounted, and anchored to
elevated support structures. -
14:02 - 14:07Mariculture and sea farming systems
are used to cultivate and raise fish, -
14:07 - 14:11and other forms of marine life,
to help meet nutritional needs. -
14:11 - 14:17These marine enclosures are designed as non contaminating
integral parts of the ocean environment. -
14:24 - 14:30A true world's fair of the future would emphasize
the contributions made by all nations -
14:30 - 14:32toward advancing humanity.
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14:32 - 14:35Although this fair would provide entertainment,
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14:35 - 14:39its main function is the deeper understanding
of the world we live in, -
14:39 - 14:42and the people who inhabit it.
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14:44 - 14:49The architectural structures themselves,
would be jewels of future possibilities, -
14:49 - 14:52with a wide variety of exhibition buildings.
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14:57 - 15:01Many of the displays will depict,
not what the future will be, -
15:01 - 15:07but what it can be, if we use science and technology
with human and environmental concerns. -
15:08 - 15:12It could be a vivid future showcase of human potential.
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15:14 - 15:22Videos, three-dimensional displays, and full-size diagrams,
will depict the fabulous advantages for all nations, -
15:22 - 15:26when working together to preserve the greatest gift we have:
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15:26 - 15:29The resources and beauty of our planet.
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15:55 - 16:01In a final analysis, we are one people,
and share one planet. -
16:18 - 16:24Jacque Fresco is the one who arrived at such a solution
through careful study of human behaviour -
16:24 - 16:29and the technology behind, creating
a Global Resource Based Economy. -
16:29 - 16:32The solutions he has presented
for more than thirty years -
16:32 - 16:38-maglev trains, self-erecting buildings,
self-sustaining houses- -
16:38 - 16:40still haven’t been widely adopted
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16:40 - 16:43due to the monetary system’s constraints.
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16:48 - 16:52[From the Interview with Larry King in 1974]
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16:53 - 16:57- My guest is an extraordinary Miamian:
Dr. Jacque Fresco. -
16:57 - 17:00I could go through all the things that Dr. Fresco has done.
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17:00 - 17:03He's a social engineer, industrial engineer, designer, inventor...
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17:03 - 17:06was a consultant for Rotorcraft Helicopter,
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17:06 - 17:08Director of Scientific Research Laboratories, Los Angeles,
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17:08 - 17:11designed and copyrighted various items,
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17:11 - 17:14ranging from drafting instruments to X-ray units,
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17:14 - 17:19has had works published in the Architectural Record,
Popular Mechanics, Saturday Review, -
17:19 - 17:22and has been a technical and psychological
consultant to the motion picture industry, -
17:22 - 17:26member of the Air Force design and
Development Unit at Wright Field, -
17:26 - 17:29developed the electrostatic anti-icing systems,
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17:29 - 17:32designed prefabricated aluminum houses...
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17:32 - 17:34What does it say in your driver's license?
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17:34 - 17:36- What is the occupation?
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17:36 - 17:38- Industrial Designer...
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17:38 - 17:40Social Engineer.
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17:40 - 17:42- Does it bug you that...
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17:42 - 17:44people, when they talk about Jacque Fresco in Miami, say that
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17:44 - 17:48he's someone who is "too far ahead
of his time," his thinking is... -
17:48 - 17:52"We're not ready for advanced kind
of thinking of that type." -
17:52 - 17:53Does it bug you?
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17:53 - 17:56- I imagine every creative person in every field
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17:56 - 18:00encounters that sort of problem.
No, it doesn't. I can't afford it. -
18:00 - 18:03There's too many things that are important.
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18:04 - 18:07What do you think of, when you contemplate the future?
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18:07 - 18:10For Jacque Fresco, this is what it looks like.
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18:10 - 18:15A future where technology is harnessed
for all and money has no relevance. -
18:17 - 18:19So you think you know what the future will look like?
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18:19 - 18:24You people do, but what's up for the man, a very
brilliant man does because he is designing it. -
18:24 - 18:30A place where there would be no food shortages,
no fear of hurricanes and no war. -
18:30 - 18:32It's called The Venus Project.
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18:33 - 18:36Extraordinary 93-year-old thinker,
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18:36 - 18:41who has created a strategy to build a
new unified, symbiotic world -
18:41 - 18:43in harmony with nature.
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18:43 - 18:48His project intents to achieve nothing less
that the unification of the human race. -
18:48 - 18:52That includes the design of new cities,
the abolition of money. -
18:52 - 18:54A new paradigm for living.
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18:54 - 18:57It is called The Venus Project.
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18:59 - 19:03He has been labeled as a genius,
a prophet, a visionary -
19:03 - 19:08and sometimes as an eccentric, and
dismissed as an utopian dreamer. -
19:08 - 19:12But in the end, no matter what they say,
he is Jacque Fresco. -
19:12 - 19:15The creator and the mind
behind The Venus Project. -
19:15 - 19:18A monumental work of several fields of knowledge,
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19:18 - 19:22that unifies the concept of a new future
for the human civilization. -
19:22 - 19:27Fresco's entire life is perhaps the
definition of a second chance, -
19:27 - 19:33a new opportunity for social progress in harmony
with our planet and technology. -
19:35 - 19:41Born on March 3rd 1916, Jacque Fresco
has been called many things. -
19:41 - 19:45Designer, architect, inventor,
author, and futurist. -
19:45 - 19:49"Its sensibility stands for my first-hand
experience of the Great Depression. -
19:49 - 19:55A detailed understanding of the effects of a scarcity-based
economy and the conflicts it produces." -
19:55 - 20:00Primarily self taught, Jacque advodcates for a
society that pursues science and technology, -
20:00 - 20:03as a means of continually educating itself,
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20:03 - 20:08believing that such a society neither
wants nor needs to be controlled. -
20:08 - 20:15Proclaimed a visionary, Jacque offers bold and complete reformation
of the world's social constructs to promise a brighter tomorrow, -
20:15 - 20:19if we can unite as humans, in its pursue today.
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20:19 - 20:27Jacque Fresco represents not only the sinceres beliefs of artists
and designers to effect positive change in a society, -
20:27 - 20:33but a pure conviction, if not responsibility,
to absolve failing systems. -
20:33 - 20:39In a 1974 interview with Larry King, Jacque Fresco
can best be quoted with the following: -
20:39 - 20:42"There are no Negro problems, or Polish problems,
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20:42 - 20:43"or Jewish problems, or Greek problems,
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20:43 - 20:47"or women's problems.
There are only Human problems." -
20:47 - 20:51Ladies and Gentlemen, it's my pleasure
to introduce Jacque Fresco. -
21:11 - 21:13What is a Resource-Based-Economy?
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21:13 - 21:16I'm sure you all have heard about it.
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21:16 - 21:24But a Resource-Based-Economy is entirely different
than anything that has ever existed in the past. -
21:24 - 21:33Most decisions were made by kings, politicians, statesman;
but nothing based upon resources. -
21:33 - 21:37To better undrestand the meaning
of a Resource-Based-Economy, -
21:37 - 21:39picture an island somewhere in the South Pacific.
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21:39 - 21:45And you want to know, you really want to know,
how many people can that island support, -
21:45 - 21:50and to what degree can the extravagants
of the island be maintained. -
21:51 - 21:57First you have to know how much wood there is,
how much water, how much arable land. -
21:57 - 22:01Once you do a survey of the resources of that island,
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22:01 - 22:07that can best be the method for determining
how many people it will support; -
22:07 - 22:15if the materials do not exist, you could only design
a culture based upon the materials that do exist. -
22:15 - 22:22You can only grow food based upon the arable land
area and the waters surrounding the island, -
22:22 - 22:26the fish, crustaceous, all the other things.
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22:26 - 22:31And if you have an agronomist on
the island, or a series of them, -
22:31 - 22:36they can advise you as what is best
to grow in that tropical region. -
22:41 - 22:50So you really need technical competence, in order
to arrive at decisions that make sense. -
22:50 - 22:55You cannot arrive at decisions that
make sense by consensus, -
22:55 - 22:57by asking people what they want.
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22:57 - 23:00You have to find out what the island has to offer.
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23:00 - 23:04And that's what you can determine the future by.
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23:04 - 23:07All other systems will fail.
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23:09 - 23:12The decisions are not made by
the majority of the people. -
23:12 - 23:18They're made by the majority of people
that have technical competence; -
23:20 - 23:24That have information in the
areas you wish to excel in, -
23:24 - 23:29and methods of scientific scales of performance.
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23:29 - 23:34If you have a million sincere people that
have no technical competence, -
23:34 - 23:37I can assure you, nothing would be accomplished.
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23:38 - 23:41So you have to ask the questions,
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23:41 - 23:45Can we build a society of sustainability?
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23:45 - 23:53If you have no information as to the availability of the
resources, you cannot undertake such a project. -
23:53 - 23:58Bullshit you have a shortage of resources!
That's the function of research labs. -
23:58 - 24:04To make alternative materials that would
substitute for lack of materials. -
24:04 - 24:09Technicians do not tell you what to do, or how to live.
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24:09 - 24:17They merely carry out the function of designing elevators,
transportation units, bridges, housing systems. -
24:17 - 24:22They do not tell people what to do,
what to think or how to live. -
24:22 - 24:25That's a mistake that most people make.
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24:25 - 24:33They think that a Resousce-Based Economy has
technicians that also tell you what lifestyle to use. -
24:33 - 24:36No they don't. The resources determine that.
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24:36 - 24:46All that the technicians do is build a system that can utilize
those resources for the benefit of all the people involved. -
24:48 - 24:56It has to be global. If it is not global, if you have most of
the resources and most of the building equipment, -
24:56 - 25:03and most of the automated machinery, and most of the
arable land, and most of the drinking water; -
25:03 - 25:10countries that do not have that will attempt to invade
your country, and take what they need. -
25:10 - 25:15Every nation wants a piece of the pie.
Keep that in mind. -
25:15 - 25:22So to the degree that you try to live a sustainable
life to yourself, will not work. -
25:22 - 25:27Because other nations that lack
material will invade you. -
25:29 - 25:32And the rebuilding of cities throughout the world,
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25:32 - 25:36you have to consider how far those
cities are from resources. -
25:36 - 25:42That means available materials: concrete,
steel reinforcement, etc. -
25:42 - 25:47If the cities are near that source, then
it becomes more efficient -
25:47 - 25:51to design the cities as systems operations.
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25:51 - 25:57Meaning that a city itself must meet the
needs of the people that live there. -
25:57 - 26:04We announced on television, what is available
and what is not available at the time, -
26:04 - 26:07and when it probably will be available.
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26:07 - 26:13So the public has information of where to go
to access whatever it is that they need. -
26:13 - 26:18So people would have access to more things
that they've ever had in a monetary system. -
26:18 - 26:22More things and more opportunities would be available.
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26:24 - 26:32All of the cities are designed to utilize a minimal
amount of energy for a maximum service. -
26:33 - 26:38In that way, we can save energy so
that we can handle more people. -
26:38 - 26:44There are people throughout the world that
do not have access to high-energy systems. -
26:44 - 26:50We will be able to provide more for
human need, if we use efficiency. -
26:50 - 26:57Naturally if we fail to do that, it can only take
care of a limited amount of people. -
26:58 - 27:03But a Resource-Based Economy has millions
of slaves, but they are machines. -
27:03 - 27:08And machines do repetitive, boring
and dangerous jobs. -
27:08 - 27:09That's what machines are for.
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27:09 - 27:12They are not to put you out of work.
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27:12 - 27:16If they can turn things out faster than you,
we don't need you working, -
27:16 - 27:19in fact, we don't want you working in an industrial plant.
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27:19 - 27:24We want you to go back to school and study
whatever you are interested in, -
27:24 - 27:27whatever you think you would like to study,
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27:27 - 27:30whatever you feel you'd like to understand better.
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27:32 - 27:38Unfortunately, money doesn't represent
things in existence. -
27:38 - 27:44If you set a value on every tree, every inch
of arable land, all the water, -
27:44 - 27:48and you print it money proportional to the resources,
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27:48 - 27:54so that the money represents resources,
then it can have meaning. -
27:54 - 27:57But today that is not accomplished,
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27:57 - 28:05although they may tell you that demand
will really bring about these things. -
28:05 - 28:10No, demand doesn't bring about the things.
Available resources do. -
28:10 - 28:14And if money doesn't represent
available resources -
28:14 - 28:17it has no basis for social
management. -
28:17 - 28:23When you live in a fault society, that
bases his wealth upon money, -
28:23 - 28:27then that society itself
will collapse eventually; -
28:27 - 28:32Not because I say so. Because it's
not based on physical reference. -
28:35 - 28:42In a Resource-Based Economy where production and
automation can turn out more goods and services -
28:42 - 28:45there's no need to use
money anymore. -
28:46 - 28:53If you really wish to put an end to war,
poverty, hunger, territorial disputes, -
28:54 - 28:57you must utilize all
the world's resources -
28:57 - 29:01as the common heritage
of all the world's people. -
29:01 - 29:10Anything less than that, will remain with the same problems
that you've had continuously for centuries. -
29:12 - 29:20If you don't declare all the Earth's resources as the
common heritage of all the world's people, -
29:20 - 29:25and bring all the separate nations together
in one unified system... -
29:25 - 29:29There is no solution
other than that. -
29:29 - 29:34And this is why we recommend
a Resource-Based Economy. -
29:45 - 29:50[Roxanne Meadows] - Jacque continues to invent
every day; to invent, to write, to work. -
29:51 - 29:55He has a zest for life that keeps him
going and keeps him working, -
29:55 - 29:58and he is interested in things,
he is interested in -
29:58 - 30:02what happens out there, how this will
play out and how it will turn out, -
30:02 - 30:07while very much wanting to introduce
this direction to the world -
30:07 - 30:09so that's his prime focus.
-
30:09 - 30:13And he does that in every way
he can, by actually showing; -
30:13 - 30:17It's not enough to just tell what the future would be like,
but to show what people are missing. -
30:18 - 30:22He keeps coming up with new ideas,
new inventions, new designs, -
30:22 - 30:27and proves what he has, represents them better,
makes more models, makes more videos; -
30:27 - 30:34He's relentless at trying to get these ideas out.
I think he fears where society is now. -
30:34 - 30:41It's not acceptable to him. But instead of just complaining
he wants to propose an alternative. -
30:44 - 30:51- Jacque spent a lot of time before studying people,
he started studying how animals behave, -
30:51 - 30:55and how to change behavior of animals
or predict the behavior of animals. -
30:55 - 30:59And came to the conclusion that's
really the environment -
30:59 - 31:03that changes behavior and enable us all
to behave the way we do. -
31:06 - 31:11You know in the past people would say "You'd never
be able to get to the moon. Not in a thousand years." -
31:11 - 31:15And they look up the next day and
they were going to the moon. -
31:15 - 31:21You know when they first meet Jacque 25 years ago and
he would talk to some people about certain inventions... -
31:21 - 31:25They're saying: "You won't see that, not in a thousand years."
-
31:25 - 31:31And ten years later, they come out with it
on cover in the Popular Science. -
31:33 - 31:40I look at it, as everything he is doing is
being the outmost of spirituallity. -
31:40 - 31:44Instead of looking for a better world
later, after you die, -
31:44 - 31:50it's really building the type of things that all religious
teaching talk about, here on earth. -
31:50 - 31:52We don't have to wait
til we die for that. -
31:52 - 31:59We confront our problems today and not wait for the Messiah
to come, with the white robe, and change things. -
31:59 - 32:05We'll not wait till we all go to heaven at the certain time, or those believers that go to heaven at the certain time.
-
32:05 - 32:07We can deal with the
problems today. -
32:07 - 32:09For instance, in religion...
-
32:12 - 32:17they put things on the will of God. If there is
an accident, it's the will of God, -
32:17 - 32:21and it stops you from thinking; it stops
you from being innovative; -
32:21 - 32:23It stops you from thinking about:
-
32:23 - 32:28"Well, how do we redesign the trasportation system
so we don't have those problems any more." -
32:30 - 32:33Besides the Tours on
scheduled Saturdays, -
32:33 - 32:39Jacque is continuously creating and revising new
designs in all areas of the social sequences. -
32:40 - 32:45For every design and drawing that he keeps,
he probably throws out about ten. -
32:46 - 32:52He then selects from the scetches ones he wants
to be rendered into 3D animations. -
32:53 - 32:56[Jacque Fresco] - And this is the front view of the same.
This is for... -
32:56 - 33:02[Roxanne Meadows] Andrew and Ioulietta are located in London, and they head up the Venus Project Design Team.
-
33:09 - 33:12[Jacque Fresco] - It looks very good Andrew.
-
33:12 - 33:14[Andrew ] - It's getting there, it's getting there...
-
33:14 - 33:18We have been working with Juilietta and
Andrew for about two years now. -
33:18 - 33:24They take Jacque's sketches and turn it into a
beautiful vision of what the future can be. -
33:52 - 33:57- You have to take in a whole picture
and ask what is it that you want. -
33:57 - 34:00What kind of world do you want? So...
-
34:01 - 34:09I have drawings of different cities. Those cities
have an end goal. They are not just cties. -
34:09 - 34:15The goal of that cities is to make things relevant
to people that they respond to. -
34:18 - 34:20There's no other way.
-
34:20 - 34:26Now people that live in the city, have many
different reactions with the city. -
34:26 - 34:30"It's my home", "My grandfather was
born there", "My favorite city" -
34:30 - 34:35But they really don't understand
that what a city is, what it serves. -
34:36 - 34:41Now they use words like shelter.
Home is a shelter. -
34:41 - 34:45But when you wear a diving suit,
and you go underwater, -
34:45 - 34:51that's a closed enviroment shelter
for underwater living. -
34:51 - 34:58If a man goes out in the space, he brings
with him the air in the suit, -
34:58 - 35:04and in that suit he has all the type of equipment
he may need on that mission. -
35:05 - 35:12If you give him a book, a novel to take out in the space,
it's dead weight, it doesn't serve anything. -
35:12 - 35:17If you give him an emergency book of what to do when oxygen stops
-
35:17 - 35:20or something goes wrong, that's something.
-
35:20 - 35:26But a book about how Seminole indians treat fish
would have no use in the space. -
35:26 - 35:32Our society is loaded with "How
Seminole Indians treat fish" -
35:33 - 35:38There's lots of superfluous information,
superfluous to the needs of people. -
35:38 - 35:43Must everything be scientific?
if it is not, is less valid. -
35:46 - 35:53Is there a place for non-scientific? By non-scientific,
do you mean speculative notions? -
35:55 - 35:59Or scientific is, "I don't know,
let's try to find out". -
35:59 - 36:03Does it mean that you would
find out? Not necessarily. -
36:03 - 36:07You'll find out if you have
the appropriate needs. -
36:10 - 36:12You could take flying lessons
if you live in the city, -
36:12 - 36:17you could study medicine, you could go
back to school, concert halls... -
36:17 - 36:23There are exhibits every week like a worldsphere.
The city is enormously advantageous. -
36:23 - 36:26Nothing I've talked about
was against anybody. -
36:26 - 36:29I don't want to kill anybody, hurt anybody,
put anymbody in jail... -
36:29 - 36:35There are no prisons, no police, no armies,
no navies in this system, -
36:35 - 36:38because people have access to
whatever the hell they need. -
36:38 - 36:42You could go to the "Watchcenter" and check
what do you want. Any time in your life. -
36:42 - 36:45Free. Without payment
or obligation. -
36:45 - 36:53In the future you would have so many new options, that you
would never get involved in an nothingness field. -
36:53 - 36:56Nothingness means fashion...
-
36:56 - 37:01There'll be healthy clothing, design for people,
that would breathe while you walk, -
37:01 - 37:06and cool off when it's hot, it'll help the body
to maintain optimum temperature. -
37:06 - 37:12Shoes will breathe as you walk; They
won't be designed by stylists -
37:12 - 37:15or people that drape fabric around
in different directions. -
37:15 - 37:20These are totally distractive and have
nothing to do with a sane society. -
37:20 - 37:24A sane society would design
clothing that's comfortable -
37:24 - 37:29and maintain materials that serve
more than just cover the body. -
37:32 - 37:35So in the future no more opinions.
-
37:35 - 37:37Do you have information
in this area? - No, I don't. -
37:37 - 37:42- Good. Here's where you might get it or here
is how you might go about finding out. -
37:42 - 37:49- It looks like the globe. That globe there makes
all the decision because it's connected. -
37:49 - 37:56We have satellites that surround the earth that project
the hologram. A virtual image of the Earth. -
37:56 - 37:59So you are looking at the real earth in real time.
-
37:59 - 38:02So you walk over to the image
screens and you talk. -
38:02 - 38:05You say: "How many planes are
in the air at this instance?" -
38:05 - 38:11The computer would have an analysis pattern ???
all over the world (and) will tell you, "7320" -
38:11 - 38:18Every plane in the air, every hurricane, all the conditions
all over the earth, plant diseases...no human can do that. -
38:18 - 38:25So we don't need people in government. We need electronics
in the field, production, distribution, weather... -
38:25 - 38:29So we can look, come at home and find out anything we want to know.
-
38:29 - 38:33Without opinions based on foxy way.
-
38:37 - 38:44Now somebody said to me, "What if a guy
want to take more than what's allowable?" -
38:44 - 38:52First of all, they'd go to an orientation center first, that describes
how the city works, where you can access food, -
38:53 - 38:56where you can pick up information in the area...
-
38:56 - 39:01It's just like if you want to fly an aeroplane,
they don't put you in an aeroplane. -
39:01 - 39:05They put you in a unit and remove the control,
first just to get the feel of it. -
39:05 - 39:09Then (???) you over to an airplane,
cause the first thing you check is the tires. -
39:09 - 39:15And you check the air pressure, and you check
the movement (???) how they all work. -
39:15 - 39:19And then you sit in that (???) for a little while
and get familiar with the instruct. -
39:19 - 39:26You can't move "normal" people into this city,
and expect to have a decent world. You can't. -
39:26 - 39:34Anymore that would become to be an engineer without going
through a specialized environment, fall the University. -
39:34 - 39:41The University is an enviroment, that specializes in how to be an engineer, an architect, whatever.
-
39:41 - 39:49So we want to change the global environment, and make
the Global University. All cities have a University. -
39:54 - 40:02And ocean liner is a totally enclosed system.
It has medical, hospitals, emergency rooms, -
40:02 - 40:07but it has no kitchens in the bedrooms,
there's a dining area. -
40:07 - 40:14And it's inefficient to put a kitchen in every bedroom
on the ocean liner, do you understand that? -
40:14 - 40:17So they have areas set aside for that.
-
40:17 - 40:21They have a nurse... several nurses on the ocean liner.
-
40:21 - 40:24And what does a nurse do?
-
40:24 - 40:28A nurse can bandage, she can close and surgery...
-
40:28 - 40:34but there is no reason why in the future would
not have automated systems for doing that. -
40:34 - 40:41They can invite a doctor from any area of the globe
on the board of that boat. -
40:41 - 40:47They can invite him as a virtual image
or as an assemble manipulator. -
40:47 - 40:51And that doctor could study the
condition without being there. -
40:52 - 40:59So you have a totally different system, that's why
I use the term "Total Enclosure Systems". -
40:59 - 41:05Each building generates its own electricity,
it provides for all human needs, -
41:05 - 41:09and even grows food in the
building, or prepares food. -
41:09 - 41:14Today you have places where you have fast food;
-
41:14 - 41:17you have 15 cooks and waitresses and all that.
-
41:17 - 41:20In the future you'll be able to extrude the food
-
41:20 - 41:23very rapidly, with no people at all.
-
41:23 - 41:27You don't need people. You don't
need waitress, cooks... -
41:27 - 41:33what you need is the food handled the way the food
is handled by people, only much faster. -
41:34 - 41:37Remember: Takes a doctor time to diagnose.
-
41:37 - 41:41It has got to study the symbols and tell
what the problem might be. -
41:42 - 41:45And scanning by machine is very fast.
-
41:45 - 41:52So I can't tell you exactly what hospitals will look like,
or what the cities will look like, -
41:52 - 41:59although we know that beds would be very similar,
only that they'll be more flexible. -
41:59 - 42:03Not only that the bed would have monitors build-in
-
42:04 - 42:09so that if there's any kind of emergency
the bed can stimulate you, -
42:09 - 42:14out of that emergency and call for help
without you even knowing it. -
42:14 - 42:22If you have palpitations or unusual physical condition,
while you are asleep, the stuff will arrive. -
42:22 - 42:26So when I say "Total Enclosure" I mean
-
42:26 - 42:31methods for dealing with all problems
that humans might have. -
42:31 - 42:36Now, that does mean that won't
be a kitchen in every home? -
42:36 - 42:39There will be during the transition.
-
42:39 - 42:42Until we realize that instead
of having 5000 homes -
42:42 - 42:48with 5000 sinks and 5000
ovens and refrigerators, -
42:48 - 42:53you have gigantic refrigerators
and food preparation systems, -
42:53 - 42:57Do you understand that?
It will not be like it is today. -
42:57 - 43:04So when people look at these cities that I draw up here,
they picture conventional approaches. -
43:04 - 43:08A bedroom, a kitchen, a dining room, a dining area,
-
43:08 - 43:11Because you have people over for lunch,
-
43:11 - 43:14the same value system we have today.
-
43:15 - 43:19So I would say that this is where the future is going.
-
43:19 - 43:26And the future design would depend on how far
into the future and how far technology has gone. -
43:26 - 43:30When they can reach symbols
and make diagnosis, -
43:30 - 43:34when a machine can do drafting, as
that of thousands of draftsmen, -
43:34 - 43:38a machice could do drafting much faster than man.
-
43:38 - 43:44It can scan those lines in, if you put in
the specifications of what you want. -
43:44 - 43:50If you want a hospital to house
a thousand people, -
43:50 - 43:53with the most economical structures,
-
43:53 - 43:58which have them built-in heating and cooling systems,
-
43:58 - 44:02all that can be stored in information systems.
-
44:02 - 44:07And the building can probably be forthcoming in minutes
-
44:07 - 44:10in rather hours that it takes craftsmen to do it.
-
44:10 - 44:16And the amount of craftman, and the ammount of space,
a lot of different things would not be the same. -
44:16 - 44:21If it took an industrial area with movable walls
-
44:22 - 44:25and some manufacturing process needed,
-
44:25 - 44:29say a production of a 100 aerocars a day,
-
44:30 - 44:33that space could be assembled,
-
44:33 - 44:37the move walls can move to accomodate
the production method. -
44:37 - 44:40If the production method is faster,
two years from now, -
44:40 - 44:45the walls come together, the factory is smaller
and the production rate is higher. -
44:45 - 44:52So whatever you have today, ovens, kitchens, all of
the things, would be smaller in the future, -
44:52 - 44:56produce things much faster and
not occupying the same space. -
44:56 - 45:00So when you say "how much space
do you need for hospitals?" -
45:00 - 45:06It depends. If people eat nutritious food, do
exercise, you don't have many hospitals. -
45:06 - 45:10So, I can't tell you exactly what
the hospital space would be -
45:10 - 45:13or how technical they will be.
-
45:13 - 45:15I can only say this.
-
45:15 - 45:20The future will occupy much less
space for the same turnout. -
45:21 - 45:23And that's the message.
-
45:23 - 45:26Now, if you try to design a city,
-
45:26 - 45:34with a 100 drafting tables in it, or 30 machines,
that is with today's thinking. -
45:34 - 45:41And the buildning will get to zone that creates that will be smaller and with less people.
-
45:41 - 45:46Now, instead of having a generalist,
where a doctor is a generalist -
45:46 - 45:50and he knows everything from neurology
to other physical problems -
45:50 - 45:54it's much easier to have computers
with that information. -
45:54 - 45:58Not only they scan you and
record in symbolic logic -
45:58 - 46:02what the condition is, it is then read.
-
46:02 - 46:06Instead of doctors, it's read by
machines very rapidly. -
46:06 - 46:10And then the appropriate action
can be taken by machine, -
46:10 - 46:14if it's surgery of whatever else is required.
-
46:14 - 46:20So to sit down and design a surgical system
based on today's values, -
46:20 - 46:25and today's methodology, would be
inappropriate for the future. -
46:25 - 46:29So a city of that size would
do 10 times the work, -
46:29 - 46:32that a city today of the same size does.
-
46:32 - 46:37That's why I can't give you an exact description
or what hospitals would be like. -
46:37 - 46:41Only an overview in general.
-
46:41 - 46:44A ship is an Total Enclosure System.
-
46:44 - 46:50A passenger liner that has a thousand
passengers, has hospital equipment: -
46:50 - 46:54cooking, dining areas, sleeping
areas, air condition, -
46:54 - 46:57children's room and nurses
taking care of children. -
46:57 - 47:01And has everything that a thousand
passengers may need. -
47:01 - 47:03Do you understand that?
-
47:03 - 47:09A ship is almost a Total Enclosure System.
It doesn't generate its own energy. -
47:09 - 47:16It uses resins, diesel engines, to generate
electricity to operate the generators. -
47:16 - 47:22But in the future, the surface of the
ship will supply the energy needed. -
47:22 - 47:27The wave power. And surrounding
areas will supply that ship -
47:27 - 47:31with the energy it needs rather
than requiring input. -
47:31 - 47:35Now most of the buildings that
I draw and you can see there, -
47:35 - 47:39can be put in the cities of the
future on the outer perimeter. -
47:40 - 47:44It need not... you can use the same
basic drawing that I have today. -
47:44 - 47:48But trying to fill-in the buildings,
as to what's in them, -
47:48 - 47:52I'd rather not devolve that specific information.
-
47:53 - 47:59Now, I can go into specifics but they
will only serve temporarily. -
48:00 - 48:05The method of delivery of people or moving people
depends on the technology of the future. -
48:06 - 48:11And it depends on how easy it is to move people.
-
48:11 - 48:14But if you have Total Enclosure Systems,
-
48:14 - 48:19it means each system is self-operating,
it doesn't depend on central power. -
48:19 - 48:22But they are all connected
to the central computer -
48:22 - 48:26and they're connected to
all events in other cities. -
48:26 - 48:32If the city system mechanism fail,
other mechanisms take over -
48:32 - 48:39and notify the appropriate people or the appropriate
machines to carry out the given task. -
48:46 - 48:49You can't design the best television set.
-
48:49 - 48:52You can only design the best you can design
with what we know up to now. -
48:52 - 48:55Two years from now it'll be different.
Does it make sense? -
48:55 - 49:00This city that I designed would be a straightjacket
to the kids of the future. -
49:00 - 49:01They'll design their own cities!
-
49:01 - 49:06But if you make a statue of Fresco and
put it here, you hold them back! -
49:06 - 49:11So there are no heroes, no great people in the future,
just people that make contributions. -
49:17 - 49:21It is not from the bottom up
or from the top down. -
49:21 - 49:24It's based upon surveys.
-
49:24 - 49:30Meaning if we have the resources we can
build a Resource-Based Economy. -
49:30 - 49:33If we don't have access to certain materials...
-
49:33 - 49:37people want to know how things are distributed.
-
49:37 - 49:42In other words if we don't have enough
to go around, who gets what? -
49:44 - 49:47That's why we must overcome scarcity.
-
49:47 - 49:51To the degree that scaricty exists,
you'll have problems. -
49:51 - 49:56You can't overcome problems
by legislation or consensus. -
49:57 - 50:02You'll have to have the material to make
the Resource-Based Economy work. -
50:02 - 50:07And until that occurs, you are
going to have problems. -
50:07 - 50:14If we can overcome shortages then we can
begin to think of ways of solving problems. -
50:15 - 50:19If you can't overcome shortages,
you'll have problems. -
50:19 - 50:23So somebody wanted to asked me,
"Who desides who gets what?" -
50:24 - 50:30In a shortage system where you don't have
enough resources to meet those needs, -
50:30 - 50:39it will occur on a basis of prejudice, bigotry and in
habits pre-established prior to the Venus concepts -
50:40 - 50:46A Venus concept doesn't have a set of laws that exist,
that you do this or you don't do that. -
50:46 - 50:52If we don't overcome scarcity, we cannot
operate the system efficiently. -
50:52 - 51:01So the first thing that has to be done is groups of people or individuals have to work on problem solving.
-
51:02 - 51:08Many problems such as conflict resolution,
that we learn to solve problems, -
51:10 - 51:15In an abundant system, we
would have little conflict. -
51:15 - 51:21If we don't have abundance,
it will always result in problems. -
51:21 - 51:29I believe that The Venus Project can arrive at the
availability of services in the shortest possible time. -
51:29 - 51:33Once that is accomplished, we
can begin to move forward. -
51:34 - 51:39until we resolve the problem of shortages,
we cannot move forward. -
51:40 - 51:43There are many different things people ask.
-
51:43 - 51:49"What if two people completely disagree and
have different approaches to problems?" -
51:49 - 51:53We can find both systems or
three systems or ten systems -
51:53 - 51:59to determine now which consumes
less energy and it's most effective -
51:59 - 52:04If we try a system and it doesn't work,
we will continue to work at it -
52:04 - 52:08to see if we can find better ways
to operating the system. -
52:08 - 52:15It has nothing to do group feels ??? or what
the group feels ought to be done. -
52:15 - 52:18It's based on resources, only.
-
52:18 - 52:22We do not make decisions. We are arriving at them,
-
52:22 - 52:25based on existing resources.
-
52:25 - 52:29It appears to be no real other way of doing things.
-
52:29 - 52:33It's like being in a lifeboat with limited water.
-
52:33 - 52:36Do you give everybody a glass of water?
-
52:36 - 52:39Or do you give everybody water depending on their weight
-
52:39 - 52:42and moisture and evaporation of the body.
-
52:42 - 52:45Now, how'd do you decide that?
-
52:45 - 52:50People tends to give each person an equal amount of water in scarcity.
-
52:50 - 52:52That does not make sense.
-
52:52 - 52:57If a person weights 300 pounds and
another person weights 79 pounds, -
52:57 - 53:03giving equal amount of water does not
equally distribute the water in the body. -
53:03 - 53:09So totally different systems, meaning
surveys and technical people, -
53:09 - 53:15who are qualified to arrive at decisions by using technology.
-
53:15 - 53:20Does everybody have equal opportunities
in The Venus Project? No. -
53:20 - 53:23There are different people with different backgrounds.
-
53:23 - 53:27The more experience you have in any particular field,
-
53:27 - 53:30you'd be called upon to advice.
-
53:30 - 53:35I'm talking about real experience, hands-on,
working at something. -
53:41 - 53:46You cannot maintain wars with abundance.
-
53:46 - 53:50So when people say, "So what of the
new laws in The Venus Project?" -
53:50 - 53:58Well, to the degree that you solve problems, produce
an abundance, it's hardly any need for laws. -
53:58 - 54:06If we can raise children to behave in a most appropriate way
under those conditions, you don't need laws. -
54:07 - 54:11[Journalist ] - Some people would want or need drugs, would that be made available to them?
-
54:11 - 54:12[Fresco] - Yes it would.
-
54:12 - 54:13- It would?
- Yes. -
54:13 - 54:20- OK, would you elaborate... - You will...if we
show people smoking cigarettes talking -
54:20 - 54:26but then we show the human lung. Real film.
And it stretches when you... -
54:26 - 54:29If you smoke a long time, it tares,
-
54:29 - 54:33and then cancerous cells form. Then
the guy chokes, he can't breathe... -
54:33 - 54:35We show a guy dying! Real!
-
54:35 - 54:39You know a hospital, try breath, he's
been smoking for 20 years, -
54:39 - 54:47We don't say stop smoking, we show films of the results
of a certain viewpoint. Do you understand? -
54:47 - 54:51If you don't get it, you can still smoke, if you are up to.
-
54:51 - 54:59We do not order you not to smoke. If you try to do that
it'll go underground, people will smoke in the shower. -
54:59 - 55:02if you try to ban religion, it will go underground.
-
55:02 - 55:04Don't ban anything.
-
55:07 - 55:10I believe that people should not be divided.
-
55:10 - 55:15The youngsters, the adolesences, and
finally the inmaturlly young adults, -
55:15 - 55:18and the older folks, are all divided people.
-
55:18 - 55:23When you get at 65, you don't want to
travel on an ocean liner with old folks. -
55:23 - 55:26How come we put up these
buildings for the old folks? -
55:26 - 55:29We think that people want to live
whatever the hell they want to live. -
55:29 - 55:33But cities must be design to have an
integrated intelligence society. -
55:33 - 55:37Einstein when he was 65-70 years old,
he would talk to youngsters. -
55:37 - 55:40He kept reading. He kept up with ideas.
-
55:40 - 55:44Why must societies been divided
into different groups? -
55:46 - 55:51All single professions will disappear in the future.
I have no question about it. -
55:51 - 55:54You have to become so general.
-
55:55 - 55:59Our problems are not political, they're technical.
-
55:59 - 56:08Everything that you have, your washing machine, your electric
light, your automobiles, your airplane are all technical. -
56:08 - 56:11Without those things you would be pulling boats.
-
56:11 - 56:15Slavery. You would be blipped
and beaten in slavery! -
56:15 - 56:23So, technology is on the backs of probably no
more than twenty people gave us everything. -
56:23 - 56:28The Edisons, Louis Pasteur -if he
wasn't him we would all be dead- -
56:28 - 56:33So the real things that you have that
work for you are technical. -
56:33 - 56:41What The Venus Project proposes is a society where everyone
will live better than the wealthiest people today. -
56:41 - 56:45Everyone. Now is that possible?
Let me give you an example. -
56:45 - 56:54The middle-class American today, or the middle-class
person in any advanced society, lives better than kings. -
56:54 - 56:57They have air conditioning in their car,
-
56:57 - 57:02they have communications in their
car, telephones, they fly and... -
57:02 - 57:06Even the Arabs used to think of a magic carpet.
-
57:06 - 57:10The guys sat on the carpet and they flew around
and they thought: "That was fantastic" -
57:10 - 57:13But they never tell you when it
rained the carpet got soaked, -
57:13 - 57:18everybody got wet or you have to go to the
washroom, or did you do it a magic carpet. -
57:18 - 57:22Now you have airplanes with
televisions in the airplanes. -
57:22 - 57:27Even the magic carpet was considered
"Oh, that's too far out!". -
57:27 - 57:29Nothing it's too far out.
-
57:29 - 57:33Anything a person can conceive of,
can be built. -
57:36 - 57:41Now, in a non-monetary based society,
a Resource Based society, -
57:41 - 57:45people have access to anything that they need.
-
57:45 - 57:52Somewhat like the public library. They'd go down
and access a camera, or a bicycle, or a wristwatch, -
57:52 - 57:57anyhting that they need is available
without a price tag. -
57:57 - 58:06That would mean that we must achieve a level of production
that is so high, that scarcity no longer exists. -
58:06 - 58:13Many people wonder what would drive people, if they have
access to all their needs, what would happen to incentive? -
58:13 - 58:18What would motivate people, or
something gain. What's the gain? -
58:18 - 58:26Although the gain is that materials are available, what would
motivate them on to do better to what they have? -
58:26 - 58:30Need. We will always lack.
-
58:30 - 58:34And the fact that we'll always lack meaning,
that we cannot achieve perfection, -
58:34 - 58:43we cannot achieve truly dynamic equilibrium, we will
always be in some form of disequilibrium. -
58:43 - 58:50With the elimination of scarcity, the essential incentives change toward problem solving, in general.
-
58:54 - 58:59On a Resource-Based Economy people are brought up to understand
-
58:59 - 59:03how they relate to their immediate environment.
-
59:03 - 59:12And that the relationship to the environment is not the truth,
it's as far as we know up to now. -
59:12 - 59:15You brought up today and you're told that
-
59:15 - 59:22as we seek more and more information,
we'll know more about a given subject. -
59:22 - 59:26Someone asked me: "Will everybody
be alike in your society?" -
59:26 - 59:31Yes, in certain areas. They will love the Earth
and take care of it, stick their hands on, -
59:31 - 59:34when they meet another person
with different culture they'd say: -
59:34 - 59:38"Your values are different than mine, I'd like
to learn more about your way of thinking" -
59:38 - 59:44They would be the same in that way. They would be
open to new ideas, learn to listen to new ideas, -
59:44 - 59:50ask relevant questions about ideas, yes,
in those areas, they would be alike. -
59:58 - 60:03A Resource-Based Economy is all inclusive.
-
60:03 - 60:08That means transportation, city design, education...
-
60:09 - 60:13The methods of education; and a new value system.
-
60:14 - 60:20If you don't include everything, if you leave out
any of those factors, you'll have a problem. -
60:20 - 60:25It includes agriculture, feeding people,
distribution of goods and services. -
60:25 - 60:33It includes raising of children in school systems,
the subject matter taught, the language used. -
60:33 - 60:42We'll also develop a newer language that has closer areas
of agreement, which are not subject to interpretation. -
60:42 - 60:48The Venus Project describes the process
level of social aberrations. -
60:49 - 60:53Any deviation from that system
will cause problems. -
60:53 - 60:59The system has been worked on for
75 years, and we've got it down at. -
61:00 - 61:07A Resourse-Based Economy is a method of operating
society in the most economical and efficient way, -
61:07 - 61:11to meet the needs of all the world's people.
-
61:12 - 61:16During the transition, It'll be highly participatory.
-
61:16 - 61:22Different people on different professions will be
able to serve the wellbeing of everyone else. -
61:23 - 61:29It is not a technical elitism, it includes
all aspects of social living. -
61:30 - 61:32I don't want you to think
that it's just a city design. -
61:32 - 61:38It's a value system. The way we thing,
how we arrive at these conclusions, -
61:38 - 61:45in other words, you would see every inch of
the way, as proposed by The Venus Project. -
61:45 - 61:51If you deviate from those systems, it may
not be a tried system or a proven system. -
61:52 - 61:59The Venus Project is based upon a lot of research
and proven methods of social change. -
62:08 - 62:17There are no values except the values that preserve nature,
man and its relationship with its fellow men and nature. -
62:17 - 62:19This is the only laws I know of.
-
62:19 - 62:25If you don't take care of the forest and you
let them burn and die, we will suffer. -
62:25 - 62:29If we pollute the oceans, we will suffer.
Those are things that I accept. -
62:30 - 62:36People do not understand The Venus Project,
as in "The Fresco likes to dictate the ways." -
62:36 - 62:41I'd like to understand what they
have to offer to all the society. -
62:41 - 62:47I'm not interested in three views to an airplane, unless
I know what that plane is for. -
62:47 - 62:57What has to be done is people should investigate the
educational system of The Venus Project, what it offers. -
62:57 - 63:02Then, it must then look into the environmental
aspects of The Venus Project. -
63:02 - 63:08How we intend to support and restore
the damaged environment. -
63:08 - 63:12Then, what different types of vehicles
we would use for transportation. -
63:12 - 63:15How we solve the trasportation problem.
-
63:15 - 63:21If they find shortcomings, then let's say:
"Present your recommendations." -
63:21 - 63:28But don't say: "I don't like that system".
Present your recommendations or alternatives. -
63:40 - 63:43[Roxanne Meadows] We have designed,
just as I've said, for a new city. -
63:43 - 63:47Where people can come from all
over the world and see... -
63:47 - 63:54It's a big kind of a transitional city, because you can't superimpose
a Resource-Based Economy within a monetary system. -
63:54 - 63:59So it'll be a transition, and people would come
and see how the city works, -
63:59 - 64:04and see how efficient it would be and then
go back and build one in their country, -
64:04 - 64:09and it would kind of grow this way,
a true evolution not revolution. -
64:09 - 64:11But before things break down in this culture,
-
64:11 - 64:17we'd like to have a lot more information out there,
so people know what to work toward. -
64:17 - 64:21And many of them won't be interested until,
as Jacque mentioned, -
64:21 - 64:27they lose their jobs, they lose confidence in their elected
leaders, and they lose their homes and their cars, -
64:27 - 64:29then they'll be looking for something else.
-
64:29 - 64:35But we like to have the information out there, so they
know a different direction to work towards. -
64:35 - 64:38[Jacque Fresco] - We have a lot of architects now
joining the organization. -
64:38 - 64:47And they are working on 3D views of the cities,
construction techniques, so it's a little early for that. -
64:47 - 64:50First you have to convince people that they want that.
-
64:50 - 64:53And then when they say, "We are ready to go",
-
64:53 - 65:00you've collected 50 million for the first city. We'll
build in any place: China, France, England. -
65:00 - 65:04There would not be owned by
The Venus Project, so we get -
65:04 - 65:10people from all over the world could come and look it
and say "We'd to like to live that way" -
65:10 - 65:14[Peter Joseph] - Do you fell that there should be a political
movement associated with The Venus Project? -
65:14 - 65:17[Jacque Fresco] - Not a politcal movement.
An Educational movement. -
65:17 - 65:18- Very good. Yeah.
-
65:18 - 65:23- All people. What it is that is needed, how much
arable land to support so many people, -
65:23 - 65:27and transportation that would be safe,
-
65:27 - 65:36and educational projects that shows how to utilize our existing
resources in a more equitable way for all people. -
65:37 - 65:40[Roxanne ] - It's too bad that even the activists
today that want to see change, -
65:40 - 65:43some of them, they don't know
where the problems lie. -
65:43 - 65:47They try to make this system
more ethical and just, -
65:47 - 65:51but never consider that it's the system that
produces that aberrant behavior. -
66:01 - 66:04- Who's... who's going to pay for all this?
-
66:04 - 66:06- Where is the money coming from?
-
66:06 - 66:09If you took all of the gold and all
of the wealth of this country, -
66:09 - 66:12all of the certificates of debt, and
all of the land ownership, -
66:12 - 66:16all of the diamonds and rings, and
dumped it off the coast of Japan, -
66:16 - 66:20as long as you didn't touch the
American way of thinking, -
66:20 - 66:22our technology and our resources,
-
66:22 - 66:25we would not be impoverished at all.
-
66:25 - 66:29America's wealth is not its gold,
is not its banking institutions. -
66:29 - 66:34These are false institutions. That
the entire money-structured -
66:34 - 66:38and materialistic-oriented society
is a false society. -
66:38 - 66:4010 or 15 years from now, our society
-
66:40 - 66:44will go down in history as the
lowest development in Man. -
66:44 - 66:47We have the brains, the know-how,
the technology, -
66:47 - 66:51and the feasibility to build an
entirely new civilization. -
66:51 - 66:55- You believe that we teach competition?
That it's not bred into some- -
66:55 - 66:58- Competition is dangerous,
socially offensive, -
66:58 - 67:00considered right and normal,
-
67:00 - 67:03because you are brought up to that value system.
-
67:03 - 67:05What kind of competition did Jesus have?
-
67:05 - 67:08What kind of competition
is there in your body? -
67:08 - 67:10Suppose your brain said, "I'm
the most important organ!" -
67:10 - 67:13And the liver said, "I am. And I want
a Free Enterprise system!" -
67:13 - 67:15You'd rot away in a month,
if every organ -
67:15 - 67:17of your body went out for itself.
-
67:17 - 67:21You cannot be a conventional architect,
a conventional engineer, -
67:21 - 67:25work for the telephone company, or
any other of the old establishment -
67:25 - 67:28and come up with an idea that
is a radical innovation. -
67:28 - 67:32The space program takes new
thinking; to save our country, -
67:32 - 67:35to save our land, to save our environment,
-
67:35 - 67:38to save our youth. Our stupidity, our conflict...
-
67:38 - 67:40we've got to reorganize our way of thinking
-
67:40 - 67:43and reconsider our social aims.
-
67:44 - 67:49I don't know what the future will be. But I can
say that it's probably we'll kill each other. -
67:49 - 67:56But I can't live with that. So I speak up.
I don't say, "The future will be this." -
67:56 - 68:00So people say: "How long from now do you see a scientific world?"
-
68:00 - 68:02I don't know that. That's not up to me!
-
68:05 - 68:07I can't say that Fresco tells the truth.
-
68:07 - 68:10I can only say that Fresco's world
-
68:10 - 68:17is based upon survey related to man
and his relationship to the environment. -
68:17 - 68:21That's what I mean by "mechanistic".
-
68:22 - 68:28It isn't that I want to direct the whole thing.
I haven't gotten assistance from others -
68:28 - 68:32on how to build the buildings faster,
that without knew. -
68:32 - 68:38So I had to innovate all this shit because
I didn't get anything from others. -
68:39 - 68:42Academia is not The Venus Project.
-
68:43 - 68:47Nor it is science as it is used today.
-
68:47 - 68:50They wouldn't work on bombers if they
were part of The Venus Project. -
68:50 - 68:55They wouldn't work on weapons.
They wouldn't be patriotic. -
68:55 - 68:59[Journalist] - When you look at some of your designs...
[Jacque Fresco] - Yes. -
69:00 - 69:05- ...and people say: "Yeah, look it's like you never see them in popular mechanics in the 50's,
-
69:05 - 69:08so what's gonna be like in 1999?"
-
69:08 - 69:11[Jacque Fresco] - No it's nothing like that.
-
69:11 - 69:16Hollywood shows you spaceships
and people using laser weapons... -
69:16 - 69:22They take the same cowboys and Indians and put
them in spaceships. That is not the future. -
69:22 - 69:29That's man's concept of this limited society that
doesn't teach you how to think and look ahead. -
69:29 - 69:36They teach you how to be a cameraman, automechanic,
chemist or a structrural engineer... -
69:36 - 69:39They don't give you an overview of society.
-
69:42 - 69:47When people say: "Are you trying to build a perfect society?"
I have no notions of a perfect society. -
69:47 - 69:51I don't know what that means. I know that we can do
much better of what we've got. -
69:51 - 69:58I'm no Utopian. I'm not a humanist, who would like
to see everyone live in warmth and harmony. -
69:58 - 70:02I know that if we don't live that way, we'll kill
each other and destroy the Earth. -
70:06 - 70:10We must put our mind to this as we
do to put a man on the moon. -
70:10 - 70:12We must put our mind to the social problem.
-
70:12 - 70:16I am not your enemy, I am not
trying to destroy things. -
70:16 - 70:18I do not believe in revolution.
-
70:20 - 70:23[Larry King] - Are you betting that people
will not declare war on each other? -
70:23 - 70:25So that you can get at building all of this?
-
70:25 - 70:27[Jacque Fresco] - Well, we don't have much choice.
-
70:27 - 70:30We're going to destroy each other,
or we're going to make it. -
70:34 - 70:37[Larry King] - [He's] social engineer,
industrial designer, -
70:37 - 70:40designer and inventor, Ph.D in
Human Factors Engineering, -
70:40 - 70:44and has worked on many things
from anti-icing systems to -
70:44 - 70:47prefabricated aluminum houses,
designed systems for noiseless -
70:47 - 70:51and pollution-free aircraft, wrote
the book "Looking Forward". -
70:51 - 70:53He has lectured at the
Department of Sociology -
70:53 - 70:56in Princeton on sociology of the future,
-
70:56 - 70:58guest at the College Editors Environmental
Conference in Washington, -
70:58 - 71:00lectured at Queens College, New York,
-
71:00 - 71:02University of South Florida,
University of California, -
71:02 - 71:06designed various items, ranging from
drafting instruments to X-ray units. -
71:06 - 71:10And, so you know, don't just dismiss this.
-
71:10 - 71:13If he says it's possible, it's possible.
-
71:23 - 71:28[Jacque Fresco] "Time is running out. I don't know
if I can get the people on this world cruise. -
71:28 - 71:33I'm doing my direst to get this
information out there - I need your help! -
71:57 - 72:01We must remember that this is a much
better system than the current one, -
72:01 - 72:05not some utopia, because such
a thing doesn't exist. -
72:05 - 72:09Technology and discoveries
are constantly moving, so... -
72:09 - 72:13You can not have the best technology
and the best system, -
72:13 - 72:17it’s a continuous process of progression.
-
72:17 - 72:20For such a society, you need technology
-
72:20 - 72:23that will free man from any unwanted work,
-
72:23 - 72:26will produce plenty of goods and services,
-
72:26 - 72:29and will lead automation to a new dimension.
-
72:30 - 72:35A society in which everyone shares,
and no one owns anything. -
72:35 - 72:40A society in which human beings use technology
as extensions of themselves. -
72:41 - 72:43A highly educated society.
-
72:45 - 72:49A society where information and
technology will be accessible to all, -
72:49 - 72:51without any servitude.
-
72:55 - 73:00A society where no one will be in charge,
because it will not be needed. -
73:00 - 73:03A society without reasons for conflict.
-
73:07 - 73:10A society where you will feel like a human being,
-
73:10 - 73:15and the rest (technology, information, comfort, etc.)
-
73:15 - 73:18will only be an extension of you.
-
73:29 - 73:31[Excerpt from the film K-Pax]
-
73:32 - 73:33- Come in.
-
73:44 - 73:47- This is so much better.
-
73:48 - 73:51- It's a lot like home...
-
74:04 - 74:06- Well, uh, Prot?
-
74:06 - 74:09I was hoping you'd tell me more about home.
-
74:12 - 74:14- Well, what would you like to know?
-
74:15 - 74:19- Well, uh, do you, um...
-
74:19 - 74:21do you have a family on K-PAX?
-
74:22 - 74:25It doesn't work on K-PAX the same
way it works here, Mark. -
74:25 - 74:28On K-PAX, we don't have families in
the way that you think of them. -
74:28 - 74:33In fact, a family would be a "non-sequitur" on
our planet, as it could on most others. -
74:34 - 74:36- In other words, um...
-
74:37 - 74:41You, uh...you never knew your parents?
-
74:42 - 74:46- On K-PAX, children are not raised by their
biological parents, Mark, but by everyone. -
74:46 - 74:49They circulate among us, learning
from one and then another. -
74:49 - 74:52- Do you have a child?
- No. -
74:54 - 74:56- Do you have a wife waiting back for you on K-PAX?
-
74:56 - 74:58- Mark, Mark, Mark...
-
75:01 - 75:05You are not really listening to what
I'm saying to you, are you? -
75:07 - 75:09We do not have marriage on K-PAX.
-
75:09 - 75:12There are no wives. There are no husbands.
-
75:12 - 75:14There are no families.
-
75:18 - 75:22- I see. So, um...
-
75:22 - 75:26what about... societal structure?
-
75:26 - 75:28- Government?
- No, there's no need for one. -
75:28 - 75:32- You have no laws?
- No laws. No lawyers. -
75:33 - 75:35- How do you know right from wrong?
-
75:35 - 75:39Every being in the universe knows right from wrong, Mark.
-
75:42 - 75:44- But what if...
-
75:45 - 75:48if someone did do something wrong--
-
75:49 - 75:52committed murder or rape--
-
75:53 - 75:55how would you punish them?
-
75:58 - 76:00- Let me tell you something, Mark.
-
76:01 - 76:03You humans, most of you,
-
76:03 - 76:06subscribe to this policy of
"an eye for an eye", -
76:06 - 76:09"a life for a life," which is known
throughout the universe -
76:09 - 76:11for its... stupidity.
-
76:11 - 76:13Even your Buddha and your Christ
had quite a different vision, -
76:13 - 76:18but nobody's paid much attention to them,
not even the Buddhists or the Christians... -
76:21 - 76:22You humans...
-
76:22 - 76:26sometimes it's hard to imagine
how you've made it this far.
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Rafa Peris
Syncing English captions. Halfway done. I've decided to start over again. It takes less time than to treat the symptoms :)
tio.trom
You're awesome Rafa! :)
Rafa Peris
Syncing finished :) I've added some missing words and changed some others, also some punctuation. So Proofreading also done. I still miss some words, which are signed with "???"
I have also divided the sentences in order to be easier to be read in general. From my experience people prefer to read 2 short sentences than a long one.
In order to divide a sentence you must press ⬆️ (up arrow) + ↩️ (enter)
I want to see those short videos you are preparing Tio
tio.trom
Rafa you are amazing! I am going to download it now and extract parts of it with the subtitles on. I already made all the videos for the entire documentary except this part and the "technology" part https://amara.org/en-gb/videos/aNzC1qVd74Mf/info/h-trom-31-technology/ towards the end where there is no subtitle. These are simply excerpts from the documentary that I will be sharing on TROM's social networks. Already scheduled 1 per day for the next 3 months.
Rafa Peris
It was a pleasure to know I could be helpful in this specific task when I read about it on FB since watching again these contents helps me to better understand this wonderful proposal which I am so interested in.
So Extensional to me your one-hour presentation of the RBE
I will try to do the sync and PR with the technology part as here.
Big Hug Tio
tio.trom
You are honestly so helpful Rafa! I was already able to cut videos from the RBE part with the subtitle you made and schedule them on TROM's social networks. Without you I could not have done that and this part is one of the most important from TROM documentary. If you manage to do the Technology part as well then that would be so awesome.
Rafa Peris
Ok Tio. Minute 28. Changed "the man" to "demand" :)
tio.trom
Updated ;) thanks