An ode to envy
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0:02 - 0:04So when I was eight years old,
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0:04 - 0:06a new girl came to join the class,
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0:06 - 0:09and she was so impressive,
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0:09 - 0:11as the new girl always seems to be.
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0:11 - 0:14She had vast quantities of very shiny hair
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0:14 - 0:17and a cute little pencil case,
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0:17 - 0:20super strong on state capitals,
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0:20 - 0:23just a great speller.
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0:23 - 0:28And I just curdled with jealousy that year,
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0:28 - 0:31until I hatched my devious plan.
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0:31 - 0:36So one day I stayed a little late after school,
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0:36 - 0:40a little too late, and I lurked in the girls' bathroom.
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0:40 - 0:42When the coast was clear, I emerged,
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0:42 - 0:44crept into the classroom,
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0:44 - 0:48and took from my teacher's desk the grade book.
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0:48 - 0:50And then I did it.
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0:50 - 0:52I fiddled with my rival's grades,
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0:52 - 0:55just a little, just demoted some of those A's.
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0:55 - 0:58All of those A's. (Laughter)
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0:58 - 1:02And I got ready to return the book to the drawer,
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1:02 - 1:05when hang on, some of my other classmates
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1:05 - 1:08had appallingly good grades too.
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1:08 - 1:11So, in a frenzy,
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1:11 - 1:13I corrected everybody's marks,
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1:13 - 1:14not imaginatively.
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1:14 - 1:17I gave everybody a row of D's
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1:17 - 1:20and I gave myself a row of A's,
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1:20 - 1:23just because I was there, you know, might as well.
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1:23 - 1:28And I am still baffled by my behavior.
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1:28 - 1:31I don't understand where the idea came from.
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1:31 - 1:34I don't understand why I felt so great doing it.
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1:34 - 1:35I felt great.
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1:35 - 1:38I don't understand why I was never caught.
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1:38 - 1:40I mean, it should have been so blatantly obvious.
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1:40 - 1:41I was never caught.
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1:41 - 1:43But most of all, I am baffled by,
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1:43 - 1:45why did it bother me so much
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1:45 - 1:47that this little girl, this tiny little girl,
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1:47 - 1:49was so good at spelling?
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1:49 - 1:51Jealousy baffles me.
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1:51 - 1:54It's so mysterious, and it's so pervasive.
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1:54 - 1:56We know babies suffer from jealousy.
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1:56 - 2:00We know primates do. Bluebirds are actually very prone.
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2:00 - 2:03We know that jealousy is the number one cause
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2:03 - 2:06of spousal murder in the United States.
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2:06 - 2:09And yet, I have never read a study
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2:09 - 2:12that can parse to me its loneliness
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2:12 - 2:17or its longevity or its grim thrill.
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2:17 - 2:20For that, we have to go to fiction,
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2:20 - 2:22because the novel is the lab
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2:22 - 2:24that has studied jealousy
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2:24 - 2:26in every possible configuration.
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2:26 - 2:29In fact, I don't know if it's an exaggeration to say
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2:29 - 2:31that if we didn't have jealousy,
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2:31 - 2:34would we even have literature?
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2:34 - 2:37Well no faithless Helen, no "Odyssey."
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2:37 - 2:40No jealous king, no "Arabian Nights."
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2:40 - 2:43No Shakespeare.
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2:43 - 2:46There goes high school reading lists,
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2:46 - 2:47because we're losing "Sound and the Fury,"
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2:47 - 2:50we're losing "Gatsby," "Sun Also Rises,"
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2:50 - 2:54we're losing "Madame Bovary," "Anna K."
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2:54 - 2:56No jealousy, no Proust. And now, I mean,
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2:56 - 2:58I know it's fashionable to say that Proust
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2:58 - 3:00has the answers to everything,
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3:00 - 3:02but in the case of jealousy,
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3:02 - 3:05he kind of does.
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3:05 - 3:09This year is the centennial of his masterpiece, "In Search of Lost Time,"
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3:09 - 3:13and it's the most exhaustive study of sexual jealousy
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3:13 - 3:15and just regular competitiveness, my brand,
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3:15 - 3:18that we can hope to have. (Laughter)
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3:18 - 3:20And we think about Proust, we think
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3:20 - 3:22about the sentimental bits, right?
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3:22 - 3:24We think about a little boy trying to get to sleep.
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3:24 - 3:28We think about a madeleine moistened in lavender tea.
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3:28 - 3:30We forget how harsh his vision was.
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3:30 - 3:32We forget how pitiless he is.
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3:32 - 3:34I mean, these are books that Virginia Woolf said
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3:34 - 3:36were tough as cat gut.
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3:36 - 3:38I don't know what cat gut is,
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3:38 - 3:41but let's assume it's formidable.
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3:41 - 3:44Let's look at why they go so well together,
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3:44 - 3:48the novel and jealousy, jealousy and Proust.
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3:48 - 3:51Is it something as obvious as that jealousy,
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3:51 - 3:55which boils down into person, desire, impediment,
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3:55 - 3:59is such a solid narrative foundation?
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3:59 - 4:02I don't know. I think it cuts very close to the bone,
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4:02 - 4:04because let's think about what happens
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4:04 - 4:06when we feel jealous.
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4:06 - 4:10When we feel jealous, we tell ourselves a story.
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4:10 - 4:14We tell ourselves a story about other people's lives,
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4:14 - 4:17and these stories make us feel terrible
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4:17 - 4:19because they're designed to make us feel terrible.
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4:19 - 4:22As the teller of the tale and the audience,
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4:22 - 4:24we know just what details to include,
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4:24 - 4:27to dig that knife in. Right?
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4:27 - 4:30Jealousy makes us all amateur novelists,
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4:30 - 4:32and this is something Proust understood.
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4:32 - 4:36In the first volume, Swann's Way,
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4:36 - 4:37the series of books,
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4:37 - 4:39Swann, one of the main characters,
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4:39 - 4:42is thinking very fondly of his mistress
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4:42 - 4:44and how great she is in bed,
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4:44 - 4:47and suddenly, in the course of a few sentences,
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4:47 - 4:49and these are Proustian sentences,
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4:49 - 4:51so they're long as rivers,
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4:51 - 4:53but in the course of a few sentences,
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4:53 - 4:55he suddenly recoils and he realizes,
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4:55 - 4:59"Hang on, everything I love about this woman,
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4:59 - 5:02somebody else would love about this woman.
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5:02 - 5:06Everything that she does that gives me pleasure
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5:06 - 5:07could be giving somebody else pleasure,
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5:07 - 5:09maybe right about now."
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5:09 - 5:12And this is the story he starts to tell himself,
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5:12 - 5:14and from then on, Proust writes that
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5:14 - 5:17every fresh charm Swann detects in his mistress,
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5:17 - 5:20he adds to his "collection of instruments
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5:20 - 5:23in his private torture chamber."
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5:23 - 5:26Now Swann and Proust, we have to admit,
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5:26 - 5:27were notoriously jealous.
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5:27 - 5:29You know, Proust's boyfriends would have to leave
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5:29 - 5:32the country if they wanted to break up with him.
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5:32 - 5:35But you don't have to be that jealous
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5:35 - 5:38to concede that it's hard work. Right?
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5:38 - 5:39Jealousy is exhausting.
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5:39 - 5:43It's a hungry emotion. It must be fed.
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5:43 - 5:45And what does jealousy like?
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5:45 - 5:48Jealousy likes information.
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5:48 - 5:50Jealousy likes details.
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5:50 - 5:53Jealousy likes the vast quantities of shiny hair,
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5:53 - 5:56the cute little pencil case.
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5:56 - 5:57Jealousy likes photos.
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5:57 - 6:01That's why Instagram is such a hit. (Laughter)
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6:01 - 6:05Proust actually links the language of scholarship and jealousy.
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6:05 - 6:07When Swann is in his jealous throes,
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6:07 - 6:10and suddenly he's listening at doorways
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6:10 - 6:12and bribing his mistress' servants,
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6:12 - 6:13he defends these behaviors.
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6:13 - 6:15He says, "You know, look, I know you think this is repugnant,
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6:15 - 6:17but it is no different
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6:17 - 6:20from interpreting an ancient text
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6:20 - 6:21or looking at a monument."
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6:21 - 6:24He says, "They are scientific investigations
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6:24 - 6:27with real intellectual value."
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6:27 - 6:29Proust is trying to show us that jealousy
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6:29 - 6:32feels intolerable and makes us look absurd,
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6:32 - 6:36but it is, at its crux, a quest for knowledge,
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6:36 - 6:40a quest for truth, painful truth,
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6:40 - 6:42and actually, where Proust is concerned,
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6:42 - 6:45the more painful the truth, the better.
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6:45 - 6:49Grief, humiliation, loss:
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6:49 - 6:52These were the avenues to wisdom for Proust.
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6:52 - 6:56He says, "A woman whom we need,
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6:56 - 6:59who makes us suffer, elicits from us
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6:59 - 7:03a gamut of feelings far more profound and vital
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7:03 - 7:07than a man of genius who interests us."
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7:07 - 7:10Is he telling us to just go and find cruel women?
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7:10 - 7:12No. I think he's trying to say
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7:12 - 7:15that jealousy reveals us to ourselves.
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7:15 - 7:18And does any other emotion crack us open
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7:18 - 7:21in this particular way?
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7:21 - 7:23Does any other emotion reveal to us
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7:23 - 7:26our aggression and our hideous ambition
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7:26 - 7:28and our entitlement?
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7:28 - 7:31Does any other emotion teach us to look
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7:31 - 7:34with such peculiar intensity?
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7:34 - 7:36Freud would write about this later.
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7:36 - 7:39One day, Freud was visited
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7:39 - 7:41by this very anxious young man who was consumed
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7:41 - 7:43with the thought of his wife cheating on him.
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7:43 - 7:45And Freud says, it's something strange about this guy,
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7:45 - 7:48because he's not looking at what his wife is doing.
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7:48 - 7:50Because she's blameless; everybody knows it.
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7:50 - 7:51The poor creature is just
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7:51 - 7:53under suspicion for no cause.
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7:53 - 7:56But he's looking for things that his wife is doing
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7:56 - 7:58without noticing, unintentional behaviors.
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7:58 - 8:01Is she smiling too brightly here,
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8:01 - 8:04or did she accidentally brush up against a man there?
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8:04 - 8:07[Freud] says that the man is becoming
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8:07 - 8:11the custodian of his wife's unconscious.
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8:11 - 8:13The novel is very good on this point.
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8:13 - 8:16The novel is very good at describing how jealousy
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8:16 - 8:19trains us to look with intensity but not accuracy.
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8:19 - 8:24In fact, the more intensely jealous we are,
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8:24 - 8:26the more we become residents of fantasy.
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8:26 - 8:29And this is why, I think, jealousy doesn't
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8:29 - 8:32just provoke us to do violent things
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8:32 - 8:34or illegal things.
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8:34 - 8:36Jealousy prompts us to behave in ways
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8:36 - 8:38that are wildly inventive.
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8:38 - 8:41Now I'm thinking of myself at eight, I concede,
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8:41 - 8:45but I'm also thinking of this story I heard on the news.
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8:45 - 8:49A 52-year-old Michigan woman was caught
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8:49 - 8:52creating a fake Facebook account
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8:52 - 8:55from which she sent vile, hideous messages
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8:55 - 9:00to herself for a year.
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9:00 - 9:02For a year. A year.
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9:02 - 9:04And she was trying to frame
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9:04 - 9:06her ex-boyfriend's new girlfriend,
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9:06 - 9:09and I have to confess when I heard this,
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9:09 - 9:11I just reacted with admiration.
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9:11 - 9:13(Laughter)
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9:13 - 9:15Because, I mean, let's be real.
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9:15 - 9:20What immense, if misplaced, creativity. Right?
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9:20 - 9:22This is something from a novel.
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9:22 - 9:25This is something from a Patricia Highsmith novel.
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9:25 - 9:28Now Highsmith is a particular favorite of mine.
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9:28 - 9:32She is the very brilliant and bizarre woman of American letters.
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9:32 - 9:34She's the author of "Strangers on a Train"
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9:34 - 9:36and "The Talented Mr. Ripley,"
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9:36 - 9:39books that are all about how jealousy,
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9:39 - 9:41it muddles our minds,
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9:41 - 9:44and once we're in the sphere, in that realm of jealousy,
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9:44 - 9:49the membrane between what is and what could be
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9:49 - 9:52can be pierced in an instant.
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9:52 - 9:54Take Tom Ripley, her most famous character.
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9:54 - 9:57Now, Tom Ripley goes from wanting you
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9:57 - 10:00or wanting what you have
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10:00 - 10:03to being you and having what you once had,
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10:03 - 10:04and you're under the floorboards,
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10:04 - 10:06he's answering to your name,
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10:06 - 10:08he's wearing your rings,
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10:08 - 10:10emptying your bank account.
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10:10 - 10:11That's one way to go.
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10:11 - 10:15But what do we do? We can't go the Tom Ripley route.
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10:15 - 10:17I can't give the world D's,
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10:17 - 10:20as much as I would really like to, some days.
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10:20 - 10:24And it's a pity, because we live in envious times.
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10:24 - 10:26We live in jealous times.
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10:26 - 10:28I mean, we're all good citizens of social media,
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10:28 - 10:32aren't we, where the currency is envy?
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10:32 - 10:36Does the novel show us a way out? I'm not sure.
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10:36 - 10:40So let's do what characters always do when they're not sure,
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10:40 - 10:42when they are in possession of a mystery.
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10:42 - 10:44Let's go to 221B Baker Street
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10:44 - 10:46and ask for Sherlock Holmes.
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10:46 - 10:49When people think of Holmes,
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10:49 - 10:52they think of his nemesis being Professor Moriarty,
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10:52 - 10:54right, this criminal mastermind.
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10:54 - 10:56But I've always preferred [Inspector] Lestrade,
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10:56 - 10:59who is the rat-faced head of Scotland Yard
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10:59 - 11:01who needs Holmes desperately,
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11:01 - 11:03needs Holmes' genius, but resents him.
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11:03 - 11:05Oh, it's so familiar to me.
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11:05 - 11:09So Lestrade needs his help, resents him,
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11:09 - 11:13and sort of seethes with bitterness over the course of the mysteries.
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11:13 - 11:16But as they work together, something starts to change,
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11:16 - 11:20and finally in "The Adventure of the Six Napoleons,"
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11:20 - 11:23once Holmes comes in, dazzles everybody with his solution,
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11:23 - 11:27Lestrade turns to Holmes and he says,
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11:27 - 11:31"We're not jealous of you, Mr. Holmes.
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11:31 - 11:35We're proud of you."
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11:35 - 11:37And he says that there's not a man at Scotland Yard
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11:37 - 11:40who wouldn't want to shake Sherlock Holmes' hand.
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11:40 - 11:42It's one of the few times we see Holmes moved
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11:42 - 11:44in the mysteries, and I find it very moving,
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11:44 - 11:47this little scene, but it's also mysterious, right?
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11:47 - 11:49It seems to treat jealousy
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11:49 - 11:52as a problem of geometry, not emotion.
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11:52 - 11:55You know, one minute Holmes is on the other side from Lestrade.
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11:55 - 11:57The next minute they're on the same side.
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11:57 - 11:59Suddenly, Lestrade is letting himself
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11:59 - 12:02admire this mind that he's resented.
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12:02 - 12:04Could it be so simple though?
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12:04 - 12:06What if jealousy really is a matter of geometry,
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12:06 - 12:10just a matter of where we allow ourselves to stand
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12:10 - 12:12in relation to another?
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12:12 - 12:14Well, maybe then we wouldn't have to resent
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12:14 - 12:16somebody's excellence.
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12:16 - 12:20We could align ourselves with it.
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12:20 - 12:22But I like contingency plans.
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12:22 - 12:24So while we wait for that to happen,
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12:24 - 12:27let us remember that we have fiction for consolation.
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12:27 - 12:29Fiction alone demystifies jealousy.
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12:29 - 12:31Fiction alone domesticates it,
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12:31 - 12:33invites it to the table.
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12:33 - 12:35And look who it gathers:
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12:35 - 12:39sweet Lestrade, terrifying Tom Ripley,
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12:39 - 12:44crazy Swann, Marcel Proust himself.
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12:44 - 12:46We are in excellent company.
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12:46 - 12:47Thank you.
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12:47 - 12:52(Applause)
- Title:
- An ode to envy
- Speaker:
- Parul Sehgal
- Description:
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What is jealousy? What drives it, and why do we secretly love it? No study has ever been able to capture its “loneliness, longevity, grim thrill” -- that is, says Parul Sehgal, except for fiction. In an eloquent meditation she scours pages from literature to show how jealousy is not so different from a quest for knowledge.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 13:11
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Judith Matz
It's funny, I can "edit" the subtitles and "finalize" them, but nothing happens after clicking on "Submit". Anyway, the book is called "The Sun also Rises" (Hemingway).