Vulnerable honesty | Yoram Mosenzon | TEDxAmsterdamED
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0:17 - 0:21You know, when I meet dogs,
I feel very comfortable. -
0:23 - 0:25But when I meet people,
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0:27 - 0:31my whole body's sweaty and shaken.
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0:38 - 0:40Especially 400 people that I don't know.
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0:40 - 0:41(Laughter)
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0:46 - 0:49And I also like this nervousness
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0:50 - 0:52because it shows me why I'm here.
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0:53 - 0:56You know, I really care about
what you think about me. -
0:56 - 0:58Very often people tell me:
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0:58 - 1:01"You know, Yoram, you shouldn't care
about what people think about you." -
1:01 - 1:03But, that's not my case.
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1:09 - 1:13That's what I care the most,
which is my connection with people. -
1:13 - 1:16I love people. If I want to
or I don't, I love people. -
1:18 - 1:21There is one more thing
that I love, which is honesty. -
1:21 - 1:25You know, like moment by moment,
to reveal what is going on in me. -
1:25 - 1:27And I can tell you,
I was not trained in that. -
1:27 - 1:30I was trained to hide
many parts of myself. -
1:31 - 1:35For example, 15 years ago,
I was at a party with friends. -
1:35 - 1:38And, you know, I was bored as usual.
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1:38 - 1:41Because whenever people ask me,
"Hey, Yoram, how are you?" -
1:41 - 1:44I would say, "I'm good, I'm fine."
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1:45 - 1:47Which is far from reality.
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1:48 - 1:50'Good' in my definition is...
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1:51 - 1:54Gloomy, overworked, overwhelmed,
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1:54 - 1:58and 'Definitely not trusting that you
would appreciate it if I would say it'. -
1:58 - 2:00(Laughter)
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2:03 - 2:06And by the way, my definition of fine:
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2:06 - 2:07Fucking
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2:08 - 2:10Incapable
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2:10 - 2:13of Naming Emotions.
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2:13 - 2:14(Laughter)
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2:14 - 2:16See, I was not very trained to...
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2:16 - 2:18I didn't even know how I feel.
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2:19 - 2:22So I was in the party,
and suddenly I had a brilliant idea. -
2:22 - 2:24I said to my friends:
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2:24 - 2:26"Hey, let's play a game.
Let's play honesty game. -
2:26 - 2:28"Let's say to each other
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2:28 - 2:32everything that is going on
in our head about one another." -
2:32 - 2:34(Laughter)
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2:35 - 2:38And I was so excited, like,
finally, honesty. -
2:38 - 2:42And I didn't understand why my friends
were quite reluctant to play this game. -
2:42 - 2:43(Laughter)
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2:43 - 2:46But I was enthusiastic enough
in order to convince them to do it -
2:46 - 2:48and then I said, "OK, so I will start."
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2:48 - 2:53And then I looked at one
of my friends, a girl, and I told her: -
2:53 - 2:57"You know, my friend,
I... I think you're ugly." -
2:57 - 2:59(Laughter)
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3:02 - 3:04That was the end of the dinner.
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3:04 - 3:06(Laughter)
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3:06 - 3:08See, this woman didn't want
to speak with me anymore. -
3:09 - 3:13This is not the sort of honesty I would
like to speak with you about today. -
3:13 - 3:16Few months later, still 15 years ago.
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3:16 - 3:19I met Nonviolent Communication,
and through the years, -
3:19 - 3:21I became a Nonviolent Communication
trainer and mediator. -
3:21 - 3:25Nonviolent Communication is not something
against bullying or something like that. -
3:25 - 3:29Nonviolent Communication was
developed by Marshall Rosenberg. -
3:29 - 3:33It's a technique on how to help people
to communicate in a way -
3:33 - 3:36that is creating more
cooperation and compassion. -
3:38 - 3:42In Nonviolent Communication
we define two sorts of honesty. -
3:42 - 3:45One we called, "Jackal honesty,"
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3:45 - 3:48and the other is, "Giraffe honesty,"
or nonviolent communication. -
3:49 - 3:53And the Jackal honesty is
basically to believe -
3:53 - 4:01a belief that, me as a human being,
I'm capable of knowing absolutely -
4:01 - 4:04what is good, what is bad,
what is right, what is wrong. -
4:05 - 4:08And if there is one thing that I learned
in the 40 years I'm on the planet -
4:08 - 4:10is that I don't know.
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4:10 - 4:13I don't even know for myself
what is good for myself for the long term. -
4:13 - 4:18And at the same time, whenever people
behave in the ways that I don't like, -
4:18 - 4:20at the speed of light
I'm thinking in these terms; -
4:20 - 4:23I'm thinking in the terms of,
"What's wrong with them?" -
4:23 - 4:24So for example,
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4:24 - 4:28if a friend of mine is speaking
more words than what I enjoy. -
4:29 - 4:33Did it ever happen to you that people
speak more words than what you enjoy? -
4:33 - 4:34(Laughter)
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4:35 - 4:36So how do you judge them?
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4:36 - 4:39In your head, of course,
you would not tell it to them -
4:39 - 4:42because we all learned to become
nice, dead polite people. -
4:42 - 4:45But in your head,
there is a Jackal party going on. -
4:45 - 4:47For example, you know, like:
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4:47 - 4:51"Oh, my god, he speaks so much,
he's boring, he's abusive, -
4:51 - 4:54and he really thinks
he's the center of the world, huh." -
4:54 - 4:55(Laughter)
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4:55 - 4:59And it's the same thing if my friend is
speaking less words than what I enjoy. -
4:59 - 5:02Then, my Jackal thinking is very helpful
in order to describe what's going on. -
5:02 - 5:06Then I just give him
a different name, "autist." -
5:06 - 5:07(Laughter)
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5:08 - 5:11"He has a communication problem,
he's emotionally blocked -
5:11 - 5:14and he needs to see a psychologist
in order to learn how to open up." -
5:14 - 5:16(Laughter)
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5:17 - 5:21So whenever people behave in ways
that are not meeting my needs, -
5:21 - 5:25at the speed of light I'm thinking in
terms of what's wrong with them. -
5:25 - 5:29And I would say that I would consider
this language as a complete lie. -
5:30 - 5:34Or in other words,
a tragic description of reality. -
5:34 - 5:37Like it's not describing
what is really going on. -
5:37 - 5:39So for example, let's say,
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5:39 - 5:41let's imagine that there is a book here.
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5:41 - 5:44And both you and me read this book.
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5:44 - 5:47And you say, "Wow, this book
is really interesting." -
5:47 - 5:50And I say, "No, this book
is really boring." -
5:50 - 5:51What happened?
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5:52 - 5:55Listen to the language we speak.
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5:55 - 5:58You say, "The book is interesting,"
and I say, "No, the book is boring." -
5:58 - 6:01What happened to the book?
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6:01 - 6:04The book kind of entered
into an existential question. -
6:04 - 6:05(Laughter)
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6:05 - 6:08"What am I? Am I boring?
Am I interesting?" -
6:08 - 6:11And I would say the book is not boring,
and the book is not interesting, -
6:11 - 6:13The book is just a book.
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6:13 - 6:15And at the same time,
when I say the book is boring, -
6:15 - 6:19I'm trying to describe
a certain experience I'm having. -
6:19 - 6:21If I would describe it in Giraffe,
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6:21 - 6:24it might sound like that
in the dialogue with you. -
6:24 - 6:29For example, When you tell me now
that you think the book is interesting, -
6:29 - 6:32I'm surprised because
I didn't find it and I'm curious: -
6:32 - 6:35"Can you show me what it is
that you find interesting in it?" -
6:39 - 6:42Now again I have a blackout.
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6:42 - 6:46And I'm very grateful for
the phenomenon that's called paper. -
6:48 - 6:51It's relatively easy
when it is about books. -
6:53 - 6:56It becomes more complicated
when it's about people. -
6:56 - 6:59You know, if I would tell you for example,
"You are boring, you are stupid." -
6:59 - 7:02Or as I said to my friend, "You are ugly."
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7:03 - 7:06So what is it that I meant when I said
to my friend, "You are ugly"? -
7:06 - 7:09What was the experience
I was trying to describe? -
7:11 - 7:14It actually took me quite some time
to realize what I meant with that. -
7:14 - 7:17And it was actually something
about her mouth. -
7:17 - 7:18(Laughter)
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7:20 - 7:24And more specifically, about how she was
moving her mouth while she was laughing. -
7:24 - 7:26You know these people
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7:26 - 7:29that laugh all the time
and they don't know why they laugh? -
7:29 - 7:33I felt very uncomfortable with her because
I didn't trust that her laugh was honest. -
7:33 - 7:37So if I would describe it now, I might say
something like, "You know, my friend, -
7:37 - 7:39when you're laughing now,
I'm feeling a bit unsure -
7:39 - 7:41because I really would like to understand;
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7:41 - 7:44can you tell me, what is it
that makes you laugh?" -
7:46 - 7:50Very often when I start to introduce
the Jackal and the Giraffe, people start -
7:50 - 7:54to think: "OK, so the Jackal is bad,
and the Giraffe is good." -
7:55 - 7:58Maybe you would recognize this phenomenon,
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7:58 - 8:01that, I don't know,
you spend time with your mother, -
8:02 - 8:07and she's doing her thing, you know,
you start to be annoyed. -
8:07 - 8:08(Laughter)
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8:10 - 8:15And then you start to think: "Oh, my god,
like, my mom, she's so annoying." -
8:15 - 8:20"She's such a control freak,
she's bossing everybody around." -
8:20 - 8:27And then, comes this one, you know
this one, little Jackal? He's saying: -
8:27 - 8:32"Yoram, you're so judgmental,
you shouldn't judge your mother." -
8:33 - 8:35I call this one, "New aged Jackal."
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8:35 - 8:36(Laughter)
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8:37 - 8:41Yeah like, judging the judgment,
thinking the judging is bad. -
8:41 - 8:43If I think the judging is bad,
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8:43 - 8:46I'm falling even deeper into
the paradigm of the Jackal. -
8:46 - 8:50And then comes
the poet Rumi who said: -
8:50 - 8:55"Beyond right and wrong,
there is a field, I'll meet you there." -
8:57 - 8:59When I heard it first time, I was pissed.
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8:59 - 9:02What do you mean, "I'll meet you there"?
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9:02 - 9:04Like, "Hey, show me the way
how to get there!" -
9:04 - 9:08And the way how to get there came to me
when I heard Marshall Rosenberg say, -
9:08 - 9:14"Every judgment is a tragic
expression of an unmet need." -
9:15 - 9:19So each time you judge, or each time
somebody's judging you. -
9:19 - 9:24It's a tragic expression of a vulnerable
experience that they're having. -
9:26 - 9:30For example, I really like
to judge my girlfriend. -
9:30 - 9:31(Laughter)
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9:31 - 9:33For example... selfish.
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9:33 - 9:36For example, I had a fight at work
and then I came back home, -
9:36 - 9:38I want her to listen to me,
and then she tells me, -
9:38 - 9:42"No, Yoram, I'm on the computer now,
I don't have time today." -
9:42 - 9:43Selfish.
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9:43 - 9:44(Laughter)
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9:46 - 9:48And I can tell you,
whenever I call her selfish, -
9:48 - 9:53that's not making her more available
to want to listen to me. -
9:53 - 9:57So what is it that I mean
when I say you're selfish? -
9:57 - 10:01I would give you two versions
of the same message. -
10:01 - 10:05And, just imagine all of you
that you are my girlfriend. -
10:05 - 10:06(Laughter)
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10:06 - 10:09And, just listen to me with your heart,
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10:09 - 10:13notice which version keeps
your heart more open to me. -
10:13 - 10:16That doesn't mean necessarily
you're going to do what I ask you to do, -
10:16 - 10:19but just that your heart
stays more open to me. -
10:19 - 10:21Version number 1.
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10:22 - 10:26"My girlfriend, you're so selfish,
you just think about yourself, -
10:26 - 10:29it's amazing, you just do
whatever is important to you." -
10:29 - 10:30And the punchline:
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10:30 - 10:33"By the way,
you're just like your mother." -
10:33 - 10:34(Laughter)
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10:37 - 10:40And version number 2,
the same message exactly. -
10:40 - 10:44"My dear girlfriend, today I had a fight
at work, and I'm feeling very sad about it -
10:44 - 10:48I really need some help, I wonder,
are you available to listen to me today -
10:48 - 10:50for let's say, 15 minutes?
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10:50 - 10:54And by the way, say yes
only if you really enjoy to do that. -
10:54 - 10:57Otherwise, I have other people
who can listen to me." -
11:00 - 11:04Maybe some of you start to wonder
what that has to do with TEDx Education. -
11:07 - 11:11In my understanding, schools are there
in order to prepare people for life. -
11:11 - 11:15In my belief, communication is
the most important basic life skill -
11:15 - 11:17that will serve you in
whatever you will do. -
11:17 - 11:21For example, if you get a job,
you mainly work with people. -
11:21 - 11:25Or if you want to make a family,
you even create little people. -
11:25 - 11:29And then you need to learn
how to deal with these little people. -
11:29 - 11:30(Laughter)
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11:30 - 11:31And even if you are alone,
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11:31 - 11:35communication is how you speak with
yourself all day long in your head. -
11:36 - 11:39I remember when I was at school,
I had a geography teacher -
11:39 - 11:43and he was a very well
Jackal educated human being. -
11:43 - 11:44(Laughter)
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11:44 - 11:46He gave me a task.
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11:46 - 11:52He told me, "Yoram, write an essay
about Bucharest, the capital of Romania." -
11:54 - 11:56Now, I was ten years old.
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11:56 - 11:58In those early days of my life,
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11:58 - 12:01I was not particularly
interested in Bucharest. -
12:01 - 12:02(Laughter)
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12:02 - 12:05So instead, I was practicing music beats.
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12:06 - 12:11You see, my brother was teaching me that,
and I was very vigorously practicing it. -
12:11 - 12:16And then the teacher came to me,
and he told me, "Yoram, you are lazy. -
12:16 - 12:20You should start to learn
how to take yourself more seriously." -
12:22 - 12:24Now that was
a very confusing message to me -
12:24 - 12:27because I took myself very seriously.
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12:27 - 12:28(Laughter)
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12:28 - 12:31And actually I was learning a life skill
that served me later very much -
12:31 - 12:34when I became a professional dancer
and a choreographer; -
12:34 - 12:38having a sense of rhythm
in my body was serving me, -
12:38 - 12:40definitely more than knowing
anything about Bucharest. -
12:40 - 12:42(Laughter)
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12:42 - 12:44And actually, I feel sad for the guy.
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12:44 - 12:47If you call yourself a teacher,
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12:47 - 12:51and you think that your job
is to be a policeman, -
12:51 - 12:54I would consider this job as hell.
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12:55 - 12:59And I believe he would have more fun
if he would speak to me in this language. -
12:59 - 13:02For example,
if he would say something like: -
13:02 - 13:06"Yoram, seeing how passionate you are
about practicing this music beats, -
13:06 - 13:10I'm feeling excited because I really
would like to support you in it. -
13:10 - 13:15Hey, how about going on Google and
searching for some cool Romanian beats. -
13:15 - 13:17(Laughter)
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13:19 - 13:22In the coming July,
together with a group of people, -
13:22 - 13:26we are about to open
the first Giraffe school in Amsterdam, -
13:26 - 13:29for children aged zero to twenty-one.
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13:29 - 13:31Thank you very much.
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13:31 - 13:32(Applause)
- Title:
- Vulnerable honesty | Yoram Mosenzon | TEDxAmsterdamED
- Description:
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This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.
In this funny, personal, and honest look at the way we as humans approach communication, Yoram Mosenzon teaches us the difference between true honesty, and what weoften think is honesty and try to hide. Important lessons we all stand to benefit from! By welcoming this type of communication we can create dialogue where we never thought it was possible, and resolve conflicts between arguing parties on a personal, organisational or international level.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 13:35
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Nancy Hart
Hi, two comments on the transcription (English):
4:38.68 -> Please remove comma between dead and polite.
8:45.65 -> The sentence should be (please correct): And then comes poet Rumi. He says:
Thank you for correcting this for me.
Nancy
Denise RQ
Hi Nancy, thanks for reporting!
Deborah Rim Moiso
Hi, I am looking to add Italian subs to this, could anyone kindly provide instructions on how to add a new language? thanks, deborah
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