The business logic of sustainability
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0:00 - 0:04Believe me or not, I come offering a solution
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0:04 - 0:08to a very important part of this larger problem,
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0:08 - 0:10with the requisite focus on climate.
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0:10 - 0:12And the solution I offer
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0:12 - 0:14is to the biggest culprit
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0:14 - 0:18in this massive mistreatment of the earth
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0:18 - 0:20by humankind,
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0:20 - 0:23and the resulting decline of the biosphere.
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0:23 - 0:26That culprit is business and industry,
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0:26 - 0:29which happens to be where I have spent the last 52 years
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0:29 - 0:33since my graduation from Georgia Tech in 1956.
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0:33 - 0:35As an industrial engineer,
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0:35 - 0:39cum aspiring and then successful entrepreneur.
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0:39 - 0:42After founding my company, Interface, from scratch
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0:42 - 0:45in 1973, 36 years ago,
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0:45 - 0:47to produce carpet tiles in America
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0:47 - 0:50for the business and institution markets,
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0:50 - 0:53and shepherding it through start-up and survival
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0:53 - 0:56to prosperity and global dominance in its field,
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0:56 - 0:58I read Paul Hawken's book,
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0:58 - 1:00"The Ecology of Commerce,"
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1:00 - 1:03the summer of 1994.
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1:03 - 1:06In his book, Paul charges business and industry
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1:06 - 1:09as, one, the major culprit
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1:09 - 1:11in causing the decline of the biosphere,
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1:11 - 1:14and, two, the only institution that is large enough,
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1:14 - 1:16and pervasive enough, and powerful enough,
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1:16 - 1:20to really lead humankind out of this mess.
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1:20 - 1:23And by the way he convicted me
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1:23 - 1:25as a plunderer of the earth.
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1:25 - 1:28And I then challenged the people of Interface, my company,
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1:28 - 1:32to lead our company and the entire industrial world to sustainability,
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1:32 - 1:34which we defined as eventually operating
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1:34 - 1:37our petroleum-intensive company in such a way
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1:37 - 1:39as to take from the earth
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1:39 - 1:43only what can be renewed by the earth, naturally and rapidly --
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1:43 - 1:45not another fresh drop of oil --
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1:45 - 1:49and to do no harm to the biosphere.
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1:49 - 1:51Take nothing: do no harm.
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1:51 - 1:53I simply said, "If Hawken is right
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1:53 - 1:55and business and industry must lead,
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1:55 - 1:57who will lead business and industry?
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1:57 - 2:00Unless somebody leads, nobody will."
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2:00 - 2:03It's axiomatic. Why not us?
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2:03 - 2:05And thanks to the people of Interface,
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2:05 - 2:08I have become a recovering plunderer.
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2:08 - 2:09(Laughter)
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2:09 - 2:14(Applause)
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2:14 - 2:18I once told a Fortune Magazine writer
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2:18 - 2:21that someday people like me would go to jail.
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2:21 - 2:23And that became the headline of a Fortune article.
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2:23 - 2:27They went on to describe me as America's greenest CEO.
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2:27 - 2:30From plunderer to recovering plunderer,
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2:30 - 2:33to America's greenest CEO in five years --
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2:33 - 2:35that, frankly, was a pretty sad commentary
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2:35 - 2:40on American CEOs in 1999.
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2:40 - 2:43Asked later in the Canadian documentary, "The Corporation,"
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2:43 - 2:46what I meant by the "go to jail" remark,
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2:46 - 2:50I offered that theft is a crime.
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2:50 - 2:55And theft of our children's future would someday be a crime.
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2:55 - 2:57But I realized, for that to be true --
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2:57 - 3:00for theft of our children's future to be a crime --
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3:00 - 3:03there must be a clear, demonstrable alternative
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3:03 - 3:06to the take-make-waste industrial system
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3:06 - 3:09that so dominates our civilization,
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3:09 - 3:12and is the major culprit, stealing our children's future,
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3:12 - 3:14by digging up the earth
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3:14 - 3:18and converting it to products that quickly become waste
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3:18 - 3:20in a landfill or an incinerator --
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3:20 - 3:25in short, digging up the earth and converting it to pollution.
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3:25 - 3:27According to Paul and Anne Ehrlich
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3:27 - 3:30and a well-known environmental impact equation,
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3:30 - 3:32impact -- a bad thing --
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3:32 - 3:36is the product of population, affluence and technology.
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3:36 - 3:40That is, impact is generated by people,
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3:40 - 3:42what they consume in their affluence,
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3:42 - 3:45and how it is produced.
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3:45 - 3:47And though the equation is largely subjective,
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3:47 - 3:51you can perhaps quantify people, and perhaps quantify affluence,
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3:51 - 3:55but technology is abusive in too many ways to quantify.
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3:55 - 3:57So the equation is conceptual.
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3:57 - 4:00Still it works to help us understand the problem.
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4:00 - 4:05So we set out at Interface, in 1994,
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4:05 - 4:07to create an example:
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4:07 - 4:09to transform the way we made carpet,
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4:09 - 4:13a petroleum-intensive product for materials as well as energy,
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4:13 - 4:15and to transform our technologies
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4:15 - 4:18so they diminished environmental impact,
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4:18 - 4:21rather than multiplied it.
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4:21 - 4:24Paul and Anne Ehrlich's environmental impact equation:
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4:24 - 4:27I is equal to P times A times T:
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4:27 - 4:30population, affluence and technology.
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4:30 - 4:36I wanted Interface to rewrite that equation so that it read
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4:36 - 4:39I equals P times A divided by T.
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4:39 - 4:42Now, the mathematically-minded will see immediately
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4:42 - 4:45that T in the numerator increases impact -- a bad thing --
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4:45 - 4:49but T in the denominator decreases impact.
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4:49 - 4:53So I ask, "What would move T, technology,
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4:53 - 4:55from the numerator -- call it T1 --
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4:55 - 4:57where it increases impact,
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4:57 - 5:00to the denominator -- call it T2 --
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5:00 - 5:03where it reduces impact?
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5:03 - 5:07I thought about the characteristics
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5:07 - 5:09of first industrial revolution,
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5:09 - 5:12T1, as we practiced it at Interface,
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5:12 - 5:16and it had the following characteristics.
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5:16 - 5:20Extractive: taking raw materials from the earth.
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5:20 - 5:23Linear: take, make, waste.
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5:23 - 5:25Powered by fossil fuel-derived energy.
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5:25 - 5:29Wasteful: abusive and focused on labor productivity.
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5:29 - 5:32More carpet per man-hour.
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5:32 - 5:35Thinking it through, I realized that all those attributes
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5:35 - 5:40must be changed to move T to the denominator.
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5:40 - 5:45In the new industrial revolution extractive must be replaced by renewable;
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5:45 - 5:47linear by cyclical;
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5:47 - 5:51fossil fuel energy by renewable energy, sunlight;
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5:51 - 5:53wasteful by waste-free;
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5:53 - 5:55and abusive by benign;
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5:55 - 5:59and labor productivity by resource productivity.
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5:59 - 6:03And I reasoned that if we could make those transformative changes,
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6:03 - 6:05and get rid of T1 altogether,
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6:05 - 6:08we could reduce our impact to zero,
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6:08 - 6:11including our impact on the climate.
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6:11 - 6:14And that became the Interface plan in 1995,
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6:14 - 6:17and has been the plan ever since.
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6:17 - 6:21We have measured our progress very rigorously.
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6:21 - 6:25So I can tell you how far we have come in the ensuing 12 years.
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6:25 - 6:27Net greenhouse gas emissions
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6:27 - 6:31down 82 percent in absolute tonnage.
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6:31 - 6:35(Applause)
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6:35 - 6:37Over the same span of time
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6:37 - 6:40sales have increased by two-thirds and profits have doubled.
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6:40 - 6:43So an 82 percent absolute reduction
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6:43 - 6:45translates into a 90 percent reduction
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6:45 - 6:49in greenhouse gas intensity relative to sales.
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6:49 - 6:51This is the magnitude
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6:51 - 6:54of the reduction the entire global technosphere
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6:54 - 6:57must realize by 2050
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6:57 - 7:00to avoid catastrophic climate disruption --
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7:00 - 7:03so the scientists are telling us.
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7:03 - 7:07Fossil fuel usage is down 60 percent per unit of production,
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7:07 - 7:09due to efficiencies in renewables.
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7:09 - 7:12The cheapest, most secure barrel of oil there is
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7:12 - 7:15is the one not used through efficiencies.
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7:15 - 7:18Water usage is down 75 percent
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7:18 - 7:20in our worldwide carpet tile business.
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7:20 - 7:23Down 40 percent in our broadloom carpet business,
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7:23 - 7:25which we acquired in 1993
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7:25 - 7:27right here in California, City of Industry,
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7:27 - 7:30where water is so precious.
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7:30 - 7:34Renewable or recyclable materials are 25 percent of the total, and growing rapidly.
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7:34 - 7:37Renewable energy is 27 percent of our total,
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7:37 - 7:39going for 100 percent.
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7:39 - 7:42We have diverted 148 million pounds --
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7:42 - 7:44that's 74,000 tons --
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7:44 - 7:47of used carpet from landfills,
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7:47 - 7:49closing the loop on material flows
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7:49 - 7:51through reverse logistics
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7:51 - 7:54and post-consumer recycling technologies
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7:54 - 7:58that did not exist when we started 14 years ago.
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7:58 - 8:00Those new cyclical technologies
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8:00 - 8:03have contributed mightily to the fact that we have produced and sold
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8:03 - 8:0785 million square yards of climate-neutral carpet
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8:07 - 8:09since 2004,
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8:09 - 8:13meaning no net contribution to global climate disruption
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8:13 - 8:15in producing the carpet throughout the supply chain,
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8:15 - 8:20from mine and well head clear to end-of-life reclamation --
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8:20 - 8:22independent third-party certified.
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8:22 - 8:25We call it Cool Carpet.
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8:25 - 8:28And it has been a powerful marketplace differentiator,
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8:28 - 8:30increasing sales and profits.
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8:30 - 8:34Three years ago we launched carpet tile for the home,
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8:34 - 8:36under the brand Flor,
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8:36 - 8:39misspelled F-L-O-R.
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8:39 - 8:41You can point and click today at Flor.com
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8:41 - 8:45and have Cool Carpet delivered to your front door in five days.
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8:45 - 8:48It is practical, and pretty too.
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8:48 - 8:49(Laughter)
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8:49 - 8:55(Applause)
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8:55 - 8:57We reckon that we are a bit over halfway
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8:57 - 9:02to our goal: zero impact, zero footprint.
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9:02 - 9:05We've set 2020 as our target year for zero,
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9:05 - 9:10for reaching the top, the summit of Mount Sustainability.
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9:10 - 9:12We call this Mission Zero.
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9:12 - 9:15And this is perhaps the most important facet:
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9:15 - 9:19we have found Mission Zero to be incredibly good for business.
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9:19 - 9:22A better business model,
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9:22 - 9:24a better way to bigger profits.
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9:24 - 9:27Here is the business case for sustainability.
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9:27 - 9:31From real life experience, costs are down, not up,
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9:31 - 9:33reflecting some 400 million dollars
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9:33 - 9:37of avoided costs in pursuit of zero waste --
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9:37 - 9:40the first face of Mount Sustainability.
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9:40 - 9:44This has paid all the costs for the transformation of Interface.
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9:44 - 9:46And this dispels a myth too,
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9:46 - 9:50this false choice between the environment and the economy.
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9:50 - 9:52Our products are the best they've ever been,
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9:52 - 9:54inspired by design for sustainability,
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9:54 - 9:58an unexpected wellspring of innovation.
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9:58 - 10:01Our people are galvanized around this shared higher purpose.
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10:01 - 10:03You cannot beat it for attracting the best people
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10:03 - 10:06and bringing them together.
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10:06 - 10:09And the goodwill of the marketplace is astonishing.
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10:09 - 10:13No amount of advertising, no clever marketing campaign,
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10:13 - 10:16at any price, could have produced or created
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10:16 - 10:19this much goodwill.
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10:19 - 10:21Costs, products, people, marketplaces --
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10:21 - 10:23what else is there?
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10:23 - 10:25It is a better business model.
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10:25 - 10:30And here is our 14-year record of sales and profits.
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10:30 - 10:33There is a dip there, from 2001 to 2003:
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10:33 - 10:35a dip when our sales, over a three-year period,
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10:35 - 10:37were down 17 percent.
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10:37 - 10:40But the marketplace was down 36 percent.
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10:40 - 10:42We literally gained market share.
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10:42 - 10:45We might not have survived that recession
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10:45 - 10:48but for the advantages of sustainability.
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10:48 - 10:52If every business were pursuing Interface plans,
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10:52 - 10:54would that solve all our problems?
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10:54 - 10:56I don't think so.
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10:56 - 10:59I remain troubled by the revised Ehrlich equation,
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10:59 - 11:03I equals P times A divided by T2.
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11:03 - 11:05That A is a capital A,
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11:05 - 11:10suggesting that affluence is an end in itself.
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11:10 - 11:14But what if we reframed Ehrlich further?
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11:14 - 11:17And what if we made A a lowercase 'a,'
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11:17 - 11:19suggesting that it is a means to an end,
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11:19 - 11:22and that end is happiness --
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11:22 - 11:25more happiness with less stuff.
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11:25 - 11:28You know that would reframe civilization itself --
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11:28 - 11:36(Applause) --
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11:36 - 11:39and our whole system of economics,
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11:39 - 11:45if not for our species, then perhaps for the one that succeeds us:
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11:45 - 11:48the sustainable species, living on a finite earth,
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11:48 - 11:51ethically, happily and ecologically
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11:51 - 11:53in balance with nature
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11:53 - 11:56and all her natural systems for a thousand generations,
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11:56 - 11:58or 10,000 generations --
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11:58 - 12:01that is to say, into the indefinite future.
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12:01 - 12:06But does the earth have to wait for our extinction as a species?
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12:06 - 12:09Well maybe so. But I don't think so.
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12:09 - 12:12At Interface we really intend to bring this prototypical
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12:12 - 12:15sustainable, zero-footprint industrial company
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12:15 - 12:18fully into existence by 2020.
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12:18 - 12:20We can see our way now,
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12:20 - 12:22clear to the top of that mountain.
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12:22 - 12:25And now the challenge is in execution.
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12:25 - 12:28And as my good friend and adviser Amory Lovins says,
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12:28 - 12:32"If something exists, it must be possible."
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12:32 - 12:35(Laughter)
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12:35 - 12:38If we can actually do it, it must be possible.
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12:38 - 12:42If we, a petro-intensive company can do it, anybody can.
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12:42 - 12:46And if anybody can, it follows that everybody can.
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12:46 - 12:49Hawken fulfilled business and industry,
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12:49 - 12:53leading humankind away from the abyss
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12:53 - 12:58because, with continued unchecked decline of the biosphere,
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12:58 - 13:01a very dear person is at risk here --
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13:01 - 13:03frankly, an unacceptable risk.
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13:03 - 13:05Who is that person?
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13:05 - 13:07Not you. Not I.
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13:07 - 13:10But let me introduce you to the one who is most at risk here.
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13:10 - 13:14And I myself met this person in the early days of this mountain climb.
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13:14 - 13:18On a Tuesday morning in March of 1996,
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13:18 - 13:21I was talking to people, as I did at every opportunity back then,
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13:21 - 13:25bringing them along and often not knowing whether I was connecting.
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13:25 - 13:28But about five days later back in Atlanta,
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13:28 - 13:31I received an email from Glenn Thomas,
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13:31 - 13:33one of my people in the California meeting.
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13:33 - 13:35He was sending me an original poem
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13:35 - 13:38that he had composed after our Tuesday morning together.
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13:38 - 13:42And when I read it it was one of the most uplifting moments of my life.
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13:42 - 13:46Because it told me, by God, one person got it.
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13:46 - 13:50Here is what Glenn wrote. And here is that person, most at risk.
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13:50 - 13:54Please meet "Tomorrow's Child."
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13:54 - 13:58"Without a name, an unseen face, and knowing not your time or place,
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13:58 - 14:01Tomorrow's child, though yet unborn,
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14:01 - 14:04I met you first last Tuesday morn.
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14:04 - 14:06A wise friend introduced us two.
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14:06 - 14:08And through his sobering point of view
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14:08 - 14:13I saw a day that you would see, a day for you but not for me.
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14:13 - 14:15Knowing you has changed my thinking.
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14:15 - 14:17For I never had an inkling
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14:17 - 14:20that perhaps the things I do might someday,
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14:20 - 14:23somehow threaten you.
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14:23 - 14:25Tomorrow's child, my daughter, son,
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14:25 - 14:27I'm afraid I've just begun to think of you and of your good,
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14:27 - 14:31though always having known I should.
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14:31 - 14:33Begin, I will.
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14:33 - 14:36The way the cost of what I squander, what is lost,
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14:36 - 14:38if ever I forget that you
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14:38 - 14:42will someday come and live here too."
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14:42 - 14:44Well, every day of my life since,
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14:44 - 14:46"Tomorrow's Child" has spoken to me
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14:46 - 14:48with one simple but profound message,
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14:48 - 14:50which I presume to share with you.
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14:50 - 14:52We are, each and every one,
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14:52 - 14:55a part of the web of life.
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14:55 - 14:59The continuum of humanity, sure, but in a larger sense, the web of life itself.
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14:59 - 15:01And we have a choice to make
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15:01 - 15:03during our brief, brief visit
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15:03 - 15:07to this beautiful blue and green living planet:
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15:07 - 15:10to hurt it or to help it.
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15:10 - 15:13For you, it's your call.
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15:13 - 15:15Thank you.
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15:15 - 15:30(Applause)
- Title:
- The business logic of sustainability
- Speaker:
- Ray Anderson
- Description:
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At his carpet company, Ray Anderson has increased sales and doubled profits while turning the traditional "take / make / waste" industrial system on its head. In a gentle, understated way, he shares a powerful vision for sustainable commerce.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 15:33
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