Illness and Self-Discovery ~ Mooji

"When you become clear and empty, the Universe moves." (Mooji) Recorded 31 Jul 2010 S2 London UK http://www.mooji.org

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Illness and Self-Discovery

[Questioner:] The question I've got is how do you

handle health issues?

When your health starts breaking down,

how do you handle that as an observer of your life,

and sort of be conscious of...

[Mooji:] Sometimes it is when, even

then sometimes physical challenges of health,

your is health deteriorating,

can be a tremendous aid to discovering your Self.

Actually, you see, sometimes this.

Many times, also, I have met the people

when they are very sick, very sick,

in a state of deep sickness.

And I've met them, spent time with them

and then they recover and get well after.

And I say to them, face to face, I tell them,
I prefer you when you are sick.

[Laughter]

You're more luminous, more humble,

more open, more alive, somehow.

You start to get well, then you get cocky

and think you're
something special, or something like this.

Sometimes I see this thing, also,

that some people, also,

we talked about it, they come to satsang

when they are feeling
very low in themselves, very low,

and they get energized through again,
being reminded of who they are,

and with all this new energy
they go and spend it on nonsense things,

rather than use it to transcend,
to burn the rest of the garbage,

they are already, go and spend it

in a bad place.

So, it's not such a bad thing and even sometimes

because you have begun to observe

your self, observe your mind,

sometimes sickness comes
as a kind of healing even, sometime.

It's like the Beingness is burping up some old stuff

and it comes up in the form of
a kind of bodily sickness for a while,

even, you see?

Sometimes people have been sick, sick, sick.

We call it satsang flu.

They go to the doctor,
they can't find anything wrong with them.

But, they just have to...
some psychic debris is coming up

and it has to come out.

Sometimes it's time of sickness.
Sometimes it's a physical sickness come.

It can take different forms, and you're observing.

I want to say something just briefly
about this observing.

When I say, Observe yourself, I don't mean
observe yourself for the rest of your life, actually.

There's a point to observing.

The point to observing is to come to see

that all the things that you are observing are transient.

They come and go. They come and go.

Has anything every come and stayed?

Everything is coming and going.

As soon as you see that there is
an impermanence about what you experience,

visually, emotionally, psychically,

then you can take it off the fire. It comes off the fire.

Something begins to
now go, 'Who is observing them?'

You see?

You're observing the things and you call it 'my life.'

So, there's something endearing about that

because you say, 'I'm watching myself,
I see really how I have been

for a large part of my life I've really been
not conscious of my self.'

It's like just going along because of conditioning.

Speaking, doing - doing things, but now

something is more observing this and seeing that,

but wait a minute, that a very unconscious behavior.

That's very superficial in some way.

And now you're.... it's a different phase,

it's a deeper phase,
a more conscious phase, you're observing.

But, also, gradually, at a certain point

you start to see, well you know it's pretty much

similar kind of stuff overall.

And eventually, life and all your experiences

become less itemized and single as experiences

and start to just feel like
one soup of sensations, actually.

That it's just, kind of, well you know,
it's just life, basically. It feels like this.

Now the one who is observing

this one we must not miss today.

Who is observing all of these things?

Not who is telling a story,
but who actually observes this?

And for this you must turn the consciousness around,

away from looking at the items of the phenomena

and look at.... try and see the one who sees.

Don't create or imagine.

This is one of the most profound insights,

is going to be revealed out of this.

Because you're not going to find
an object there, as yourself.

I am cutting things short a bit by telling you that

because I prefer to hear this from you.

When the question is turned...
before you're looking at objects,

but now you're looking for the subject.

Does the subject have a shape,
or color or size or gender?

All these you can see,
all these you can see.

The one who sees....
can the one who sees be seen?

This should be your question now.

This question is
going to reveal greatly for you something.

Don't mind if you get a bit sick.

Sometimes the sickness is there and

somehow you'll observe, also,

include the sicknesses in your observation.

It is also momentary.

[Q:] What do you do in terms of your healing...

you just... you just?

[M:] You will do as some different people, differently.

Some people, in sicknesses,

you start to feel sick and very quickly,

from the first showing
of sickness they are calling for help.

They call the doctor, they call the nurse,

call hospital, call everything.

For others, they wait, and they watch. You see?

As you become more and more still inside,

the panic is less frequent.

You go down.

Don't pull your parachute too quickly.

So, slowly, slowly, somehow feel the body

and then somehow, rather than panic,

you maybe feel initial panic that subsides

and there's just the feeling in the body

the pure sensation of illness.

You observe it,

and somehow using this, you're deepening

your meditative powers also.

Going deeper and deeper,
you come to a place where you see,

'I am no-thing at all,
I am no-thing at all.'

And sometimes this is one of the most healthy seeing;

that I am not an object, because when
you think you're the object: panic!

When you panic: worry.
And worry is a bad thing for sickness.

Okay?

But sometimes we think, 'But if I don't worry

maybe I do nothing.'

And this is the trap, in a sense

because when you become very clear and empty

then the universe moves.

The feeling 'I', listen to this,

the feeling 'I' is there.

It's like a sliding bar of 'I'ness,

If it slides this way
towards the body-mind identification

and you believe, 'I am a person,'
if you take your 'I' to be a person,

then the person is responsible

for taking care if its own life.

But if the 'I' is identified as consciousness,

then it become the universe's responsibility

to take care of your body.

I say again: If you identify your

feeling 'I' as being a person,

then it becomes the person's responsibility

to take care of the bodily life.

But if the feeling 'I' or 'I Am' is identified as

consciousness, then the universe will

take care of your life,

and it will do a far better job than your mind can do it.

This is the important thing you will find out.

The more you somehow just be quiet with yourself,

watch the panic buttons going on...

watch the fingers going to press...

but just you stay quiet, only as the seer for a moment.

Don't think, 'If I keep on going like that
I'm going to let the body die.'

I can't guarantee this;

I can say that I've been through
these type of things to tell you now,

don't panic. Be there.

And then intuitively, spontaneously,

if help is destined for this body,

it will come it such beautiful ways.

It come, because, when you live as an individual,

you move like an individual;

but when you live as consciousness,

you move like an environment.

It's like help starts to come from places,

different places, starts to come, it's like a wave come.

You're not just one person.

It's like all... wherever your energy comes

joins your energy and help you.

So many, so many forces come

to fulfill an action.

It is doing it anyway, but we've so blocked it out

that you're not seeing,
you're not living by Grace, consciously.

You see?

So you've started beautifully, continue like that

and just watch it, watch it. You see?

Then somehow you'll feel at some point, you know...

either someone spontaneously come and say,
'Actually, I have a friend of mine who really

knows about this,' or something,
and then you say, 'Ah.'

You'll sense how to read life more energetically,

more than just, sort of, reading the print.

You're sensing life, because we are life!

You're sensing, you're moving more with intuition

and your spontaneity is alive in you.

And not just living here.

The human being, for a while is human,

and then more Being.

You see? Sometimes very human side,

then gradually
becoming more into the Beingness side.

When you begin to observe life

you're moving more fully into the aspect of Beingness:

much more intuitive, more sensing.

Then beyond this is the Absolute.

When I say beyond, I don't mean beyond

spatially, in time and measurement.

I mean beyond in essence.

Meaning that in the core of this,

in the nucleus of the Being is the Absolute,

and you are this.

[Q:] Thank you very much.

[M:] Very good.

Excerpt from
"Today's Ramana"

Recorded on 31 July 2010 S2
London UK

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