Earth and ethics | Maxime de Rostolan | TEDxTours
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0:05 - 0:07Good evening.
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0:07 - 0:12I'm delighted to be here tonight
to share a vision, -
0:12 - 0:14a social project.
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0:14 - 0:18Since I turned 20, I've been trying
to find solutions to change the world -
0:18 - 0:20with all my energy and beliefs.
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0:20 - 0:25Through searching, I realized
that we had a partner of choice with us, -
0:25 - 0:29a partner we tend to forget
and even mistreat. -
0:29 - 0:32It's not just any partner
but a laboratory, -
0:32 - 0:36an incredible laboratory
with 3 billion years of experience. -
0:36 - 0:38It's the laboratory of the living.
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0:39 - 0:42Nature has developed
incredible technologies -
0:42 - 0:46to overcome all the challenges
it has been confronted with, -
0:46 - 0:50that are energy-efficient
since they only work with solar energy, -
0:51 - 0:56that are resilient, know how to adapt,
and do not produce any waste. -
0:57 - 1:01Gaudi used to say, "The architect of the
future will build by imitating Nature, -
1:01 - 1:06for it is the most rational, long-lasting
and economical of all methods." -
1:06 - 1:07And he was right.
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1:07 - 1:11We became capable of flying a helicopter
from the observation of dragonflies. -
1:12 - 1:17Japanese engineers, although brilliant,
performed a simple copy-paste -
1:17 - 1:20of the nose of the kingfisher
to design their high-speed train. -
1:21 - 1:25Drawing one's inspiration from Nature
is called "biomimetics". -
1:25 - 1:29American Janine Benyus,
a pioneer in that field, -
1:29 - 1:32wrote an incredible and
interesting book on the subject. -
1:32 - 1:38This 600-page book, references
all the clean and circular solutions -
1:38 - 1:43that could be adapted
from Nature to our societal issues -
1:43 - 1:47with regard to energy,
transportation, health, -
1:47 - 1:50business management, and food.
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1:51 - 1:56She dedicates the first chapter
of her book to agriculture. -
1:57 - 2:02She concludes these 70 first pages
by saying, if we are sincerely convinced -
2:02 - 2:06that a new world must be created
for the good of future generations, -
2:06 - 2:12then the base on which to build
this new paradigm is agriculture. -
2:13 - 2:17So I got very interested in this subject
and I understood quite a few things, -
2:17 - 2:20notably how the history
of food and agriculture -
2:20 - 2:24had been remodeled
in a context of cheap oil. -
2:25 - 2:30In 50 years, we divide our
energy efficiency by 25 -
2:30 - 2:33in order to produce food.
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2:34 - 2:41In 1940, we could produce 2.4 food
calories with one fossil calorie. -
2:41 - 2:47Today, we need 7 to 10 fossil calories
to produce one food calorie. -
2:47 - 2:49Is that not incredible?
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2:49 - 2:51But why is that?
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2:51 - 2:53Well, it is due to our production methods
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2:53 - 2:56such as tractors that burn
25 liters of gasoline per hour. -
2:56 - 3:00It's due to the massive spreading
of petrochemical products. -
3:00 - 3:04It's due to packaging and the fact that,
when you eat a cooked dish, -
3:04 - 3:09it has traveled 900 miles
before landing on your plate. -
3:09 - 3:12Fortunately, concerning
food and agriculture, -
3:12 - 3:14Nature has so much to teach us.
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3:14 - 3:20A forest, for example, produces 600 times
more biomass than a wheat field. -
3:20 - 3:25Finding our inspiration in Nature
to do farming is called "permaculture". -
3:25 - 3:27It comes from "permanent culture".
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3:27 - 3:29If we want to be strict, permaculture
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3:30 - 3:34is the art and philosophy of designing
balanced human ecosystems. -
3:34 - 3:37So strictly speaking,
it is not an agricultural method. -
3:37 - 3:41Permaculture can be done by managing
our company or our family -
3:41 - 3:43which have to be
balanced human ecosystems. -
3:44 - 3:49It can be done by constructing
a positive-energy building, -
3:49 - 3:54or by producing object from waste
using 3D printing. -
3:55 - 3:59So what does Nature teach us?
It teaches us quite a few things. -
3:59 - 4:02The first lesson we can learn from her
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4:02 - 4:05is that the ground
should never be left bare. -
4:05 - 4:10You will never see, in Nature,
a piece of land without anything on it. -
4:10 - 4:13As soon as a ray of sun
hits the ground, -
4:13 - 4:17a plant develops and grows
through photosynthesis. -
4:17 - 4:20And that's a good thing
because it is thanks to plants -
4:20 - 4:22that there is life in the soil.
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4:22 - 4:25You can imagine that
in the Beauce cereal plains -
4:25 - 4:28that are exposed
for the most part of winter, -
4:28 - 4:32earthworms have nothing to eat,
decomposers have nothing to decompose. -
4:32 - 4:35And when there are no plants,
there are no roots either, -
4:35 - 4:39so when it rains, nothing
retains the soil and it erodes, -
4:39 - 4:43the ground disintegrates, and we lose
tons of humus and fertility every year. -
4:43 - 4:48You can clearly see it in the rivers
at the end of the winter, -
4:48 - 4:52all the carried soil
coming from our fields. -
4:52 - 4:58Now to avoid this in permaculture,
we mulch, we cover the ground with straw, -
4:58 - 5:03or with grass cuttings, or with RCW -
Ramial Chip Wood. -
5:03 - 5:06We can also make green fertilizers.
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5:06 - 5:10They are plants that we put
between two crops, in a rotation. -
5:10 - 5:14These green fertilizers fix nitrogen
in the soil, so they fertilize. -
5:14 - 5:17And that is what's awesome
in permaculture. -
5:17 - 5:20It is that one action may have several
incidences, several functions. -
5:20 - 5:22When we throw straw on the ground,
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5:22 - 5:25this creates organic material
and keeps the soil alive. -
5:25 - 5:29It also helps to avoid the growth
of adventitious plants, weeds, -
5:29 - 5:33because it obscures the ground,
so It saves a lot of weeding. -
5:33 - 5:37But the straw also allows to save water,
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5:37 - 5:40since it limits the
evapotranspiration of the ground, -
5:40 - 5:42thus preserving a freshness,
a true humidity. -
5:43 - 5:47So this is the kind of ideas we can have
thanks to Nature with regards to farming. -
5:47 - 5:52Another important Nature's teaching
is the culture of diversity. -
5:52 - 5:57It's impossible to know how many living
species there are in 100m2 of forest, -
5:57 - 5:59there are so many!
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5:59 - 6:02And this is precisely the key
to productivity, it is diversity. -
6:05 - 6:09In permaculture, we try to do the same
and maintain as many species as possible. -
6:09 - 6:11We combine plants, grow trees,
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6:11 - 6:14and try to get closer to edible forests.
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6:14 - 6:17We try to make it friendly
for insects and animals. -
6:18 - 6:22To control aphids, we rely on ladybirds.
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6:22 - 6:26To avert slugs, we welcome
hedgehogs or frogs. -
6:27 - 6:30If we were fighting aphids chemically,
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6:30 - 6:34the ladybird larvae would have nothing
to eat, so they would never come back, -
6:34 - 6:37and the following year, we would
be obliged to use pesticides. -
6:38 - 6:44So it's this kind of ideas that we should
take from Nature to cultivate differently. -
6:45 - 6:49Following my interest in this in 2010,
I discovered the farm of Bec Hellouin. -
6:49 - 6:53It's an absolutely incredible farm,
in Normandy, inspired by permaculture. -
6:54 - 6:57It's a lush farm,
a kind of garden of Eden. -
6:57 - 7:00It's so productive that it
is the subject of an INRA study -
7:00 - 7:03that proves that on a planted
area of 1000m2, -
7:03 - 7:06they're able to generate
€50,000 of turnover. -
7:06 - 7:07That's how much they made last year.
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7:08 - 7:13It's huge, it's ten times more
than in conventional agriculture. -
7:13 - 7:15There are a lot of farms
that function like this one. -
7:16 - 7:19There is an impressive farm
in Quebec, the Grelinette farm, -
7:19 - 7:21which inspires lots of followers.
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7:23 - 7:27So as I was convinced of the relevance
and the power of the project, -
7:27 - 7:29I met the INRA head of research
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7:29 - 7:31who is leading this study
of Bec Hellouin and asked him -
7:31 - 7:35how to help duplicate
this type of farm on the territory. -
7:35 - 7:37He told me that, as a researcher,
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7:38 - 7:40his purpose was to follow
a farm at a cruise pace, -
7:40 - 7:45like this one that gives real hopes
in terms of healthy intensive production. -
7:45 - 7:50But he was interested in following
a farm in its installation stage -
7:50 - 7:52because it's a period a bit complicated.
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7:52 - 7:55And it is this stage that serves
as an alibi to many unions -
7:55 - 7:59and many agricultural lobbies,
to leave the current model as it is. -
7:59 - 8:02Yet this current model
is on its very last legs, isn't it? -
8:03 - 8:06In 50 years, we have lost 1.5
million farms in France. -
8:07 - 8:11At the same time, we went
from 10% farmers to 2%. -
8:11 - 8:16We lost between one third and one half
of all the organic matter of our lands. -
8:16 - 8:19And we have no magic spell to recover it.
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8:20 - 8:22Tomorrow's model
will have to pollute less, -
8:22 - 8:26consume less resources
and employ more people. -
8:26 - 8:29And to employ more people,
it will be necessary -
8:29 - 8:33for some citizens to agree
to go back and live in the countryside -
8:33 - 8:38to recreate balanced human ecosystems
in France's abandoned villages. -
8:38 - 8:42Now it was easy for me to say this
from my little Parisian universe. -
8:42 - 8:46Since I had never planted a tomato,
I doubted I was really credible. -
8:47 - 8:51So, since I felt like it,
I decided to give it a try myself. -
8:52 - 8:55At the time, I was running
a publishing company. -
8:55 - 8:58I was making educational boards
on sustainable development, -
8:58 - 9:01working with Louis Albert of Broglie,
nicknamed the "prince gardener". -
9:01 - 9:05He's created the National Conservatory
of the Tomato not far from here, -
9:05 - 9:07with 650 varieties of tomatoes.
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9:08 - 9:10We decided we would make
this experimental farm, -
9:10 - 9:13on his land, on 1.4 hectares.
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9:13 - 9:16So I quit my job and trained
in organic farming, -
9:16 - 9:18I visited a lot of farms, set up a team,
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9:18 - 9:21and we created an association
called "Fermes d'Avenir." -
9:21 - 9:24We defined one challenge
and several objectives. -
9:24 - 9:28First, the challenge
is to scientifically prove -
9:28 - 9:32that agroecology can be more profitable
than conventional agriculture. -
9:32 - 9:36We know this for sure, and it is
what we are doing on this farm. -
9:37 - 9:42Our farm, on 1.4 hectares,
will cost us less than a tractor, -
9:42 - 9:44and it will not consume any oil.
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9:44 - 9:47If everything goes well, in year 4,
we'll be economically balanced, -
9:47 - 9:50and we would have created
three jobs on 1.4 acres. -
9:50 - 9:53Comparatively, three jobs
in conventional market gardening, -
9:53 - 9:55it's rather on 9 acres.
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9:55 - 9:58So we can employ six times more people
thanks to this type of agriculture. -
9:59 - 10:00Now, our objectives.
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10:01 - 10:04The first objective is to give
INRA researchers -
10:04 - 10:08all the numbers they need in order
to evaluate the economic model. -
10:08 - 10:09So we note everything at the farm.
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10:09 - 10:13We note the work time, the cost,
the evolution of productivity, -
10:13 - 10:15then they enter them
into their program, -
10:15 - 10:18and compare it to the traditional model.
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10:18 - 10:21The second objective
is to create a tool box -
10:21 - 10:23that would allow anyone
to recreate this experience, -
10:24 - 10:25to replicate this type of farm
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10:25 - 10:30because it is one of the real
revolutions of this project. -
10:30 - 10:33One of the true revolutions
that permaculture can bring -
10:33 - 10:37is to say that, to become farmer,
we no longer need 50 or 100 ha. -
10:37 - 10:40We can do it from one or two acres,
and this changes everything -
10:40 - 10:42because one or two acres
can be found everywhere. -
10:43 - 10:44Many landowners -
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10:44 - 10:47either individuals, businesses
or local communities - -
10:47 - 10:51would be willing to make available
one or two acres of land, -
10:51 - 10:54for example, to provide
for the canteen of a school. -
10:54 - 10:57The third objective
isn't the simplest one. -
10:57 - 11:02It's evaluating the ecosystem services
provided by this kind of agriculture. -
11:03 - 11:07Basically, we say farmers
are not here just to produce food. -
11:07 - 11:11They preserve biodiversity,
maintain the quality of water, -
11:11 - 11:15cultivate people's health when they
makes good products, imprison carbon, -
11:15 - 11:18shape landscapes,
create dynamics on the territory. -
11:18 - 11:21It's super complicated
to evaluate what this represents. -
11:22 - 11:27Imagine a system where worms
create fertility for free, -
11:27 - 11:30and another where we don't
have worms anymore -
11:30 - 11:33and we need to create
this fertility artificially. -
11:33 - 11:37How much must we spend to match
the efficiency of the worms? -
11:38 - 11:43Similarly, you probably know
that bees are becoming extinct. -
11:44 - 11:48In China right now, they're paying people
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11:48 - 11:51to pollinate by hand
the apple trees growing in orchards. -
11:52 - 11:54Is it not utterly absurd?
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11:55 - 11:58So to evaluate all this,
with our association, -
11:58 - 12:00we've created a scientific committee
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12:00 - 12:03that estimates the positive impacts
and try to put a figure on it. -
12:03 - 12:06If we succeed, we'll be able to convince
the politicians that it's smarter -
12:06 - 12:09to finance now this type of agriculture
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12:09 - 12:13than paying fortunes
in a few years to repair the damage. -
12:13 - 12:16They don't really need
our numbers to start. -
12:16 - 12:18Are you familiar
with endocrine disruptors? -
12:18 - 12:22It costs 80 billions a year in France,
and it's just because of pesticides. -
12:23 - 12:26It is said that we don't have
enough money to stop pesticides, -
12:26 - 12:28but in fact in doing so,
we save 80 billions. -
12:28 - 12:31So we can finance this right now.
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12:32 - 12:35You understand that we're
trying to give a societal -
12:35 - 12:37or even political dimension
to our project. -
12:38 - 12:41So we want to make it
part of an economic reality -
12:41 - 12:45because this is the only
condition for us to be able -
12:45 - 12:47to spread it and duplicate it
on the territory. -
12:47 - 12:49So there's a number
we need to keep in mind. -
12:49 - 12:53It is that 70% of fruit and vegetables
in France are sold in supermarkets -
12:53 - 12:55or in hard discount stores.
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12:55 - 12:59So from the start, we wanted to associate
to this approach large-scale retailers -
12:59 - 13:03because we won't be able to change
the agricultural model without them. -
13:03 - 13:07Therefore, we went to meet them
and, surprisingly, they welcomed us. -
13:07 - 13:10Well, it was not totally surprising
since when we met them, -
13:10 - 13:13it was the horse meat lasagna crisis.
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13:13 - 13:19So they were trying to find solutions
to win their customers back, -
13:19 - 13:23to work on the traceability
of their suppliers. -
13:23 - 13:26Maybe it was a bit a PR stunt,
but it was more than that -
13:26 - 13:30because economically, it is very
profitable for them, it's logical. -
13:30 - 13:33Today, they're buying tomatoes
that come for Spain. -
13:33 - 13:37They know very well that when
the oil barrel'll be worth $300 or 500, -
13:37 - 13:39Spansih tomatoes will
no longer be able to compete -
13:39 - 13:42with local tomatoes
or even organic ones. -
13:43 - 13:46Concretely, we launched this farm
one year and a half ago. -
13:46 - 13:48We are up to our objectives.
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13:48 - 13:52We are very satisfied to see
that Nature is generous. -
13:52 - 13:54If we take good care of it,
it gives it back. -
13:54 - 13:56Personally, I've discovered a job.
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13:56 - 13:58I became a market gardener,
I put my hands in the soil. -
13:58 - 14:02It's a fascinating job with a lot
of things to do and in the open air. -
14:02 - 14:06I lost five kilos,
I'm tanned all year round. -
14:06 - 14:07I'm quite happy.
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14:07 - 14:09Still, we should not
idealize farmer's job. -
14:10 - 14:13There are quite a few
things left to invent. -
14:13 - 14:15An agriculturist's job remains
a complicated one. -
14:15 - 14:21You must be technically good,
be diligent, manage your bills, -
14:21 - 14:25be in top form all the time,
sell well and buy well. -
14:25 - 14:29It's a very complete and complex job.
You have to be a bit like Superman. -
14:29 - 14:32So if we want to create
200 or 500,000 jobs in agriculture, -
14:32 - 14:35we won't find 200 or 500,000
Superman volunteers. -
14:35 - 14:38So there are quite a few jobs to invent.
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14:38 - 14:41We thought of something -
well, it's a bit of a big word - -
14:41 - 14:44a job that does not exist today
but will exist tomorrow, -
14:44 - 14:47and it is "farm manager".
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14:47 - 14:51We think that a motivated agriculturist
can easily create 5 to 10 micro-farms -
14:51 - 14:53like that of the Bourdaisiere.
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14:53 - 14:57That way, they'd pool many things,
administration, marketing, -
14:57 - 15:01tools such as a tractor, a crusher,
or a transformation unit, why not? -
15:02 - 15:04This job, we call it "countryculturist".
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15:04 - 15:08because we think that they're people
who will cultivate a country, -
15:08 - 15:11cultivate something very local
and get involved in their territory. -
15:11 - 15:14And this thing is missing.
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15:14 - 15:18So you have it, it's the project
I wanted to talk about tonight. -
15:18 - 15:23It seems to me that we can
all participate in this dynamic. -
15:23 - 15:26Quite a few people
are in search of meaning, -
15:26 - 15:29thinking they don't really know
what the point of their work is, -
15:29 - 15:32who would perhaps like
to live in the countryside. -
15:32 - 15:36Well, they can try and become part-time
countryculturists or market gardeners. -
15:36 - 15:40They can invent other jobs
in distribution and transformation. -
15:40 - 15:43Those who don't necessarily
want to change jobs, -
15:43 - 15:46you can still consume local
and organic, it's really important. -
15:46 - 15:50People say consuming organic products
is expensive but, in fact, it's not. -
15:50 - 15:53It's just that junk food
is totally subsidized. -
15:53 - 15:55We pay for it several times:
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15:55 - 15:58with our taxes, with the CAP,
and with the induced health costs. -
15:58 - 16:02There is another very important lever,
it's financing this type of activity. -
16:02 - 16:09Because conventional banks
like conventional agriculture. -
16:09 - 16:12A few years ago, when I discovered this,
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16:12 - 16:15I set up a crowd-funding platform
called Blue Bees. -
16:15 - 16:20It allows Internet users, citizens,
to give or to lend money to projects, -
16:20 - 16:23like this one, agroecological projects.
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16:23 - 16:27Thanks to this, when you lend,
you can get 2 to 3% interests, -
16:27 - 16:29two to three times what you get
from your saving account. -
16:30 - 16:32It's better than leaving
your money to a banker -
16:32 - 16:35who will finance offshore
platforms in Antarctica, right? -
16:36 - 16:41With your grey matter, your arms,
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16:41 - 16:45your wallet or your plate, you can
all participate in this movement. -
16:46 - 16:49In the meantime,
we will go on experimenting, -
16:49 - 16:52creating projects, developing jobs,
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16:52 - 16:56and lobbying for politicians
to accompany this movement -
16:56 - 17:00with incentive policies
and tax arrangements. -
17:00 - 17:02We're maybe less strong than the lobbies
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17:02 - 17:07and have less elements of persuasion
than the food lobbies, -
17:07 - 17:09but we're much more numerous,
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17:09 - 17:13and the world that we're promoting
is much more desirable, isn't it? -
17:13 - 17:17It's a world in which we would
reconcile Nature and the city, -
17:17 - 17:21travel and pleasure,
alimentation and health. -
17:22 - 17:23Victor Hugo once said:
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17:23 - 17:26"It's sad to think that Nature speaks
and men is not listening." -
17:26 - 17:30So I propose to you that for once,
we prove Mr Hugo wrong -
17:30 - 17:33and all together, we build
a society of common sense, -
17:33 - 17:35a resilient and fertile world.
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17:35 - 17:37Thank you.
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17:37 - 17:38(Applause)
- Title:
- Earth and ethics | Maxime de Rostolan | TEDxTours
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