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Earth and ethics | Maxime de Rostolan | TEDxTours

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    Good evening.
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    I'm delighted to be here tonight
    to share a vision,
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    a social project.
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    Since I turned 20, I've been trying
    to find solutions to change the world
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    with all my energy and beliefs.
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    Through searching, I realized
    that we had a partner of choice with us,
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    a partner we tend to forget
    and even mistreat.
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    It's not just any partner
    but a laboratory,
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    an incredible laboratory
    with 3 billion years of experience.
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    It's the laboratory of the living.
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    Nature has developed
    incredible technologies
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    to overcome all the challenges
    it has been confronted with,
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    that are energy-efficient
    since they only work with solar energy,
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    that are resilient, know how to adapt,
    and do not produce any waste.
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    Gaudi used to say, "The architect of the
    future will build by imitating Nature,
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    for it is the most rational, long-lasting
    and economical of all methods."
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    And he was right.
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    We became capable of flying a helicopter
    from the observation of dragonflies.
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    Japanese engineers, although brilliant,
    performed a simple copy-paste
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    of the nose of the kingfisher
    to design their high-speed train.
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    Drawing one's inspiration from Nature
    is called "biomimetics".
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    American Janine Benyus,
    a pioneer in that field,
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    wrote an incredible and
    interesting book on the subject.
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    This 600-page book, references
    all the clean and circular solutions
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    that could be adapted
    from Nature to our societal issues
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    with regard to energy,
    transportation, health,
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    business management, and food.
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    She dedicates the first chapter
    of her book to agriculture.
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    She concludes these 70 first pages
    by saying, if we are sincerely convinced
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    that a new world must be created
    for the good of future generations,
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    then the base on which to build
    this new paradigm is agriculture.
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    So I got very interested in this subject
    and I understood quite a few things,
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    notably how the history
    of food and agriculture
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    had been remodeled
    in a context of cheap oil.
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    In 50 years, we divide our
    energy efficiency by 25
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    in order to produce food.
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    In 1940, we could produce 2.4 food
    calories with one fossil calorie.
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    Today, we need 7 to 10 fossil calories
    to produce one food calorie.
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    Is that not incredible?
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    But why is that?
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    Well, it is due to our production methods
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    such as tractors that burn
    25 liters of gasoline per hour.
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    It's due to the massive spreading
    of petrochemical products.
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    It's due to packaging and the fact that,
    when you eat a cooked dish,
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    it has traveled 900 miles
    before landing on your plate.
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    Fortunately, concerning
    food and agriculture,
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    Nature has so much to teach us.
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    A forest, for example, produces 600 times
    more biomass than a wheat field.
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    Finding our inspiration in Nature
    to do farming is called "permaculture".
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    It comes from "permanent culture".
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    If we want to be strict, permaculture
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    is the art and philosophy of designing
    balanced human ecosystems.
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    So strictly speaking,
    it is not an agricultural method.
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    Permaculture can be done by managing
    our company or our family
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    which have to be
    balanced human ecosystems.
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    It can be done by constructing
    a positive-energy building,
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    or by producing object from waste
    using 3D printing.
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    So what does Nature teach us?
    It teaches us quite a few things.
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    The first lesson we can learn from her
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    is that the ground
    should never be left bare.
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    You will never see, in Nature,
    a piece of land without anything on it.
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    As soon as a ray of sun
    hits the ground,
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    a plant develops and grows
    through photosynthesis.
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    And that's a good thing
    because it is thanks to plants
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    that there is life in the soil.
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    You can imagine that
    in the Beauce cereal plains
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    that are exposed
    for the most part of winter,
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    earthworms have nothing to eat,
    decomposers have nothing to decompose.
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    And when there are no plants,
    there are no roots either,
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    so when it rains, nothing
    retains the soil and it erodes,
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    the ground disintegrates, and we lose
    tons of humus and fertility every year.
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    You can clearly see it in the rivers
    at the end of the winter,
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    all the carried soil
    coming from our fields.
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    Now to avoid this in permaculture,
    we mulch, we cover the ground with straw,
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    or with grass cuttings, or with RCW -
    Ramial Chip Wood.
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    We can also make green fertilizers.
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    They are plants that we put
    between two crops, in a rotation.
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    These green fertilizers fix nitrogen
    in the soil, so they fertilize.
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    And that is what's awesome
    in permaculture.
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    It is that one action may have several
    incidences, several functions.
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    When we throw straw on the ground,
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    this creates organic material
    and keeps the soil alive.
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    It also helps to avoid the growth
    of adventitious plants, weeds,
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    because it obscures the ground,
    so It saves a lot of weeding.
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    But the straw also allows to save water,
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    since it limits the
    evapotranspiration of the ground,
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    thus preserving a freshness,
    a true humidity.
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    So this is the kind of ideas we can have
    thanks to Nature with regards to farming.
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    Another important Nature's teaching
    is the culture of diversity.
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    It's impossible to know how many living
    species there are in 100m2 of forest,
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    there are so many!
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    And this is precisely the key
    to productivity, it is diversity.
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    In permaculture, we try to do the same
    and maintain as many species as possible.
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    We combine plants, grow trees,
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    and try to get closer to edible forests.
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    We try to make it friendly
    for insects and animals.
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    To control aphids, we rely on ladybirds.
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    To avert slugs, we welcome
    hedgehogs or frogs.
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    If we were fighting aphids chemically,
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    the ladybird larvae would have nothing
    to eat, so they would never come back,
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    and the following year, we would
    be obliged to use pesticides.
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    So it's this kind of ideas that we should
    take from Nature to cultivate differently.
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    Following my interest in this in 2010,
    I discovered the farm of Bec Hellouin.
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    It's an absolutely incredible farm,
    in Normandy, inspired by permaculture.
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    It's a lush farm,
    a kind of garden of Eden.
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    It's so productive that it
    is the subject of an INRA study
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    that proves that on a planted
    area of 1000m2,
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    they're able to generate
    €50,000 of turnover.
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    That's how much they made last year.
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    It's huge, it's ten times more
    than in conventional agriculture.
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    There are a lot of farms
    that function like this one.
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    There is an impressive farm
    in Quebec, the Grelinette farm,
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    which inspires lots of followers.
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    So as I was convinced of the relevance
    and the power of the project,
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    I met the INRA head of research
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    who is leading this study
    of Bec Hellouin and asked him
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    how to help duplicate
    this type of farm on the territory.
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    He told me that, as a researcher,
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    his purpose was to follow
    a farm at a cruise pace,
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    like this one that gives real hopes
    in terms of healthy intensive production.
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    But he was interested in following
    a farm in its installation stage
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    because it's a period a bit complicated.
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    And it is this stage that serves
    as an alibi to many unions
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    and many agricultural lobbies,
    to leave the current model as it is.
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    Yet this current model
    is on its very last legs, isn't it?
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    In 50 years, we have lost 1.5
    million farms in France.
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    At the same time, we went
    from 10% farmers to 2%.
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    We lost between one third and one half
    of all the organic matter of our lands.
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    And we have no magic spell to recover it.
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    Tomorrow's model
    will have to pollute less,
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    consume less resources
    and employ more people.
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    And to employ more people,
    it will be necessary
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    for some citizens to agree
    to go back and live in the countryside
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    to recreate balanced human ecosystems
    in France's abandoned villages.
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    Now it was easy for me to say this
    from my little Parisian universe.
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    Since I had never planted a tomato,
    I doubted I was really credible.
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    So, since I felt like it,
    I decided to give it a try myself.
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    At the time, I was running
    a publishing company.
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    I was making educational boards
    on sustainable development,
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    working with Louis Albert of Broglie,
    nicknamed the "prince gardener".
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    He's created the National Conservatory
    of the Tomato not far from here,
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    with 650 varieties of tomatoes.
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    We decided we would make
    this experimental farm,
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    on his land, on 1.4 hectares.
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    So I quit my job and trained
    in organic farming,
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    I visited a lot of farms, set up a team,
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    and we created an association
    called "Fermes d'Avenir."
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    We defined one challenge
    and several objectives.
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    First, the challenge
    is to scientifically prove
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    that agroecology can be more profitable
    than conventional agriculture.
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    We know this for sure, and it is
    what we are doing on this farm.
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    Our farm, on 1.4 hectares,
    will cost us less than a tractor,
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    and it will not consume any oil.
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    If everything goes well, in year 4,
    we'll be economically balanced,
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    and we would have created
    three jobs on 1.4 acres.
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    Comparatively, three jobs
    in conventional market gardening,
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    it's rather on 9 acres.
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    So we can employ six times more people
    thanks to this type of agriculture.
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    Now, our objectives.
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    The first objective is to give
    INRA researchers
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    all the numbers they need in order
    to evaluate the economic model.
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    So we note everything at the farm.
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    We note the work time, the cost,
    the evolution of productivity,
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    then they enter them
    into their program,
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    and compare it to the traditional model.
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    The second objective
    is to create a tool box
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    that would allow anyone
    to recreate this experience,
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    to replicate this type of farm
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    because it is one of the real
    revolutions of this project.
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    One of the true revolutions
    that permaculture can bring
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    is to say that, to become farmer,
    we no longer need 50 or 100 ha.
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    We can do it from one or two acres,
    and this changes everything
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    because one or two acres
    can be found everywhere.
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    Many landowners -
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    either individuals, businesses
    or local communities -
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    would be willing to make available
    one or two acres of land,
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    for example, to provide
    for the canteen of a school.
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    The third objective
    isn't the simplest one.
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    It's evaluating the ecosystem services
    provided by this kind of agriculture.
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    Basically, we say farmers
    are not here just to produce food.
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    They preserve biodiversity,
    maintain the quality of water,
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    cultivate people's health when they
    makes good products, imprison carbon,
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    shape landscapes,
    create dynamics on the territory.
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    It's super complicated
    to evaluate what this represents.
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    Imagine a system where worms
    create fertility for free,
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    and another where we don't
    have worms anymore
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    and we need to create
    this fertility artificially.
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    How much must we spend to match
    the efficiency of the worms?
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    Similarly, you probably know
    that bees are becoming extinct.
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    In China right now, they're paying people
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    to pollinate by hand
    the apple trees growing in orchards.
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    Is it not utterly absurd?
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    So to evaluate all this,
    with our association,
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    we've created a scientific committee
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    that estimates the positive impacts
    and try to put a figure on it.
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    If we succeed, we'll be able to convince
    the politicians that it's smarter
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    to finance now this type of agriculture
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    than paying fortunes
    in a few years to repair the damage.
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    They don't really need
    our numbers to start.
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    Are you familiar
    with endocrine disruptors?
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    It costs 80 billions a year in France,
    and it's just because of pesticides.
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    It is said that we don't have
    enough money to stop pesticides,
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    but in fact in doing so,
    we save 80 billions.
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    So we can finance this right now.
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    You understand that we're
    trying to give a societal
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    or even political dimension
    to our project.
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    So we want to make it
    part of an economic reality
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    because this is the only
    condition for us to be able
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    to spread it and duplicate it
    on the territory.
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    So there's a number
    we need to keep in mind.
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    It is that 70% of fruit and vegetables
    in France are sold in supermarkets
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    or in hard discount stores.
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    So from the start, we wanted to associate
    to this approach large-scale retailers
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    because we won't be able to change
    the agricultural model without them.
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    Therefore, we went to meet them
    and, surprisingly, they welcomed us.
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    Well, it was not totally surprising
    since when we met them,
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    it was the horse meat lasagna crisis.
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    So they were trying to find solutions
    to win their customers back,
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    to work on the traceability
    of their suppliers.
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    Maybe it was a bit a PR stunt,
    but it was more than that
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    because economically, it is very
    profitable for them, it's logical.
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    Today, they're buying tomatoes
    that come for Spain.
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    They know very well that when
    the oil barrel'll be worth $300 or 500,
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    Spansih tomatoes will
    no longer be able to compete
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    with local tomatoes
    or even organic ones.
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    Concretely, we launched this farm
    one year and a half ago.
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    We are up to our objectives.
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    We are very satisfied to see
    that Nature is generous.
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    If we take good care of it,
    it gives it back.
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    Personally, I've discovered a job.
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    I became a market gardener,
    I put my hands in the soil.
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    It's a fascinating job with a lot
    of things to do and in the open air.
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    I lost five kilos,
    I'm tanned all year round.
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    I'm quite happy.
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    Still, we should not
    idealize farmer's job.
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    There are quite a few
    things left to invent.
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    An agriculturist's job remains
    a complicated one.
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    You must be technically good,
    be diligent, manage your bills,
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    be in top form all the time,
    sell well and buy well.
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    It's a very complete and complex job.
    You have to be a bit like Superman.
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    So if we want to create
    200 or 500,000 jobs in agriculture,
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    we won't find 200 or 500,000
    Superman volunteers.
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    So there are quite a few jobs to invent.
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    We thought of something -
    well, it's a bit of a big word -
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    a job that does not exist today
    but will exist tomorrow,
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    and it is "farm manager".
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    We think that a motivated agriculturist
    can easily create 5 to 10 micro-farms
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    like that of the Bourdaisiere.
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    That way, they'd pool many things,
    administration, marketing,
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    tools such as a tractor, a crusher,
    or a transformation unit, why not?
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    This job, we call it "countryculturist".
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    because we think that they're people
    who will cultivate a country,
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    cultivate something very local
    and get involved in their territory.
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    And this thing is missing.
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    So you have it, it's the project
    I wanted to talk about tonight.
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    It seems to me that we can
    all participate in this dynamic.
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    Quite a few people
    are in search of meaning,
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    thinking they don't really know
    what the point of their work is,
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    who would perhaps like
    to live in the countryside.
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    Well, they can try and become part-time
    countryculturists or market gardeners.
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    They can invent other jobs
    in distribution and transformation.
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    Those who don't necessarily
    want to change jobs,
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    you can still consume local
    and organic, it's really important.
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    People say consuming organic products
    is expensive but, in fact, it's not.
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    It's just that junk food
    is totally subsidized.
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    We pay for it several times:
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    with our taxes, with the CAP,
    and with the induced health costs.
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    There is another very important lever,
    it's financing this type of activity.
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    Because conventional banks
    like conventional agriculture.
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    A few years ago, when I discovered this,
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    I set up a crowd-funding platform
    called Blue Bees.
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    It allows Internet users, citizens,
    to give or to lend money to projects,
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    like this one, agroecological projects.
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    Thanks to this, when you lend,
    you can get 2 to 3% interests,
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    two to three times what you get
    from your saving account.
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    It's better than leaving
    your money to a banker
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    who will finance offshore
    platforms in Antarctica, right?
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    With your grey matter, your arms,
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    your wallet or your plate, you can
    all participate in this movement.
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    In the meantime,
    we will go on experimenting,
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    creating projects, developing jobs,
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    and lobbying for politicians
    to accompany this movement
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    with incentive policies
    and tax arrangements.
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    We're maybe less strong than the lobbies
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    and have less elements of persuasion
    than the food lobbies,
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    but we're much more numerous,
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    and the world that we're promoting
    is much more desirable, isn't it?
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    It's a world in which we would
    reconcile Nature and the city,
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    travel and pleasure,
    alimentation and health.
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    Victor Hugo once said:
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    "It's sad to think that Nature speaks
    and men is not listening."
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    So I propose to you that for once,
    we prove Mr Hugo wrong
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    and all together, we build
    a society of common sense,
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    a resilient and fertile world.
  • 17:35 - 17:37
    Thank you.
  • 17:37 - 17:38
    (Applause)
Title:
Earth and ethics | Maxime de Rostolan | TEDxTours
Description:

This presentation was done during an local TEDX event, produced independently of TED conferences.

All the solutions are in nature.

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Video Language:
French
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDxTalks
Duration:
17:41

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