Holacracy: A radical new approach to management | Brian Robertson | TEDxGrandRapids
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0:11 - 0:12Well, I'm an entrepreneur,
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0:12 - 0:15and I learned one of my most
important business lessons -
0:15 - 0:18on a day I nearly crashed an airplane.
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0:19 - 0:23I was a private pilot, in training -
this was about 15 years ago - -
0:23 - 0:26and it was time for my first
cross-country solo flight, -
0:26 - 0:29which is hundreds of miles away
from my home airport, -
0:29 - 0:32alone in the plane,
it's the first time I'd done this, -
0:32 - 0:34and I was pretty nervous, right?
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0:34 - 0:40And I get up in the flight,
and my low voltage light comes on -
0:40 - 0:42on my instrument panel.
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0:42 - 0:46And, you know, they don't teach you
much about the plane hardware -
0:46 - 0:47when you're learning to fly;
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0:47 - 0:50I had maybe 20 hours
of flight time under my belt. -
0:50 - 0:52And I didn't really know what that meant,
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0:52 - 0:55so my first instinct, of course,
is tap the light, -
0:55 - 0:56but that doesn't change anything.
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0:56 - 0:58(Laughter)
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0:58 - 1:03Next, I do what seems natural at the time,
I check my other instruments. -
1:03 - 1:05And one by one I scan
through my instrument bank, -
1:05 - 1:08and every instrument
says everything's fine, -
1:08 - 1:10except for the low voltage light.
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1:10 - 1:14I have plenty of gas, my navigation aid,
I'm on course, I'm not losing altitude, -
1:14 - 1:16air speed's great, everything's fine.
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1:16 - 1:17Except the low voltage light.
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1:17 - 1:18So what did I do?
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1:18 - 1:22Well, I kind of figured, it must not be
that big of a problem, right? -
1:22 - 1:25Only one instrument
is telling me anything's wrong. -
1:25 - 1:27So I'll just ignore it,
and I'll keep flying. -
1:29 - 1:31Turns out that
that's a really bad decision. -
1:31 - 1:33(Laughter)
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1:33 - 1:34I nearly crashed the plane.
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1:34 - 1:36I ended up completely lost, in a storm,
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1:36 - 1:40and violating international air space
by a major airport; it was very bad. -
1:42 - 1:45And it all started when I out-voted
the low voltage light. -
1:45 - 1:50Well, I did make it down,
a little shaken but unscathed. -
1:50 - 1:52And I realized, at this point,
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1:52 - 1:55that I'm doing the same thing
in my organization. -
1:56 - 1:58Often, when we show up in a company,
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1:58 - 2:01it's us humans that become
the "censors," the instruments. -
2:01 - 2:04Right? We're sensing reality
for that organization. -
2:04 - 2:08It's through us that our companies
get to be aware of their world -
2:08 - 2:09and respond to it.
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2:09 - 2:13And often, it's one lone instrument
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2:13 - 2:16that senses something
that no one else does, -
2:17 - 2:20that becomes that low voltage light
tuned into information that's critical -
2:20 - 2:22when everyone else is saying,
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2:22 - 2:25"You know what? I just don't see it.
I think it's fine." -
2:26 - 2:30And as a CEO and a business leader,
I had been making that mistake - -
2:30 - 2:33I had been ignoring the low voltage
lights in my organization. -
2:33 - 2:35So that started me on a quest:
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2:36 - 2:38How do I build an organization
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2:38 - 2:41where everybody gets to bring
all of their wisdom, all of their gifts, -
2:41 - 2:42all of their talents,
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2:42 - 2:47and there's no risk that we out-vote
somebody that has some critical insight. -
2:48 - 2:54And, you know, for a while I worked
on myself being a more conscious leader. -
2:54 - 2:57My other leaders in my organization -
I worked on the culture. -
2:57 - 2:59I tried to build an organization
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2:59 - 3:02where the people were as aware
and mature as they could be. -
3:02 - 3:05And you know what? That didn't solve it.
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3:05 - 3:08I realized that there
was something deeper at play -
3:08 - 3:12that was getting in the way of one person
who sensed something important -
3:12 - 3:15from acting on it in the company.
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3:15 - 3:18And it's almost like, I realized,
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3:18 - 3:21it's almost as if our companies
are perfectly designed -
3:21 - 3:24to out-vote the low voltage lights, today.
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3:24 - 3:27Something about the fundamental
structure and system -
3:27 - 3:30of how we organize and how we scale
and how we build companies -
3:30 - 3:32is stopping everyone from bringing
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3:32 - 3:34all of their insights
and all their talents. -
3:35 - 3:38So over the years that followed,
I experimented. -
3:38 - 3:40I used my company as a laboratory,
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3:40 - 3:44and I experimented with what alternate
systems and structures could we find. -
3:44 - 3:48And what I eventually came up with,
I call a new social technology. -
3:49 - 3:52Right? A social technology
is not a piece of software or hardware, -
3:52 - 3:55it's the way we humans
show up and interact. -
3:56 - 3:58Democracy is a social technology.
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3:58 - 4:01I was looking for a new social technology
to use in a company, -
4:01 - 4:03a new way to organize and build and grow.
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4:03 - 4:06And we eventually called it holacracy.
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4:06 - 4:08I'll share a little bit
about it with you today, -
4:08 - 4:11but first, let's look
at the social technology -
4:11 - 4:14we know a little more about,
a thing or two, -
4:14 - 4:15which is the management hierarchy.
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4:15 - 4:19Right? This is what we're used to
in organizations today. -
4:20 - 4:22We have bosses.
Bosses break down the work. -
4:22 - 4:23They hold people accountable.
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4:23 - 4:25They do some things
that are really important. -
4:25 - 4:27And as we look for alternate technologies,
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4:27 - 4:30we need to not lose the importance
of breaking down the work, -
4:30 - 4:33having accountability,
alignment and all these things. -
4:33 - 4:35Unfortunately, when we have
management hierarchies, -
4:35 - 4:39we often have some bureaucratic artifacts
and things that get in the way. -
4:39 - 4:42We also have some interesting,
messy human dynamics, -
4:42 - 4:44like sometimes how it really works.
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4:44 - 4:46(Laughter)
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4:47 - 4:48Right?
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4:48 - 4:50(Laughter)
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4:54 - 4:55Alright,
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4:55 - 4:59so you've seen one or two of these
at play, perhaps. -
5:00 - 5:03I think I was guilty of maybe
one or two of these myself, right? -
5:03 - 5:04So,
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5:04 - 5:08you know, we have messy
power relationships -
5:08 - 5:10sometimes in our organizations.
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5:10 - 5:13And I was looking for something different.
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5:13 - 5:16and we see something different,
though, at play. -
5:16 - 5:19We see another way of achieving order
around us all the time, -
5:19 - 5:21if we just look at how a city functions,
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5:21 - 5:25we look outside the world
around our organizations, -
5:25 - 5:31and we look at the amazing amount
of order we see at play in our lives -
5:32 - 5:33that don't require bosses.
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5:33 - 5:36So, you know, I flew in here
through multiple airports, -
5:36 - 5:39got a ride, got to a hotel, checked in.
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5:39 - 5:43I transacted with numerous
other businesses along my journey, -
5:43 - 5:45and it all just worked.
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5:45 - 5:47Right? There were taxis
available to take me places, -
5:47 - 5:50a hotel to house me.
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5:50 - 5:53All of this order is there,
yet there's no boss directing it all; -
5:53 - 5:54there's no one saying,
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5:54 - 5:57Okay we need a taxi to pick up Brian
at the airport right here, -
5:57 - 5:59it doesn't have to happen that way.
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5:59 - 6:01In fact, I don't need a boss
directing my life. -
6:01 - 6:04I'm free to pursue my own purpose in life
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6:04 - 6:06as best I know how.
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6:06 - 6:10Right? To use my autonomy, my intelligence
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6:11 - 6:14to transact my life and to engage
with others doing the same. -
6:14 - 6:18And what enables that
is a nice system of rules. -
6:18 - 6:22I know not to go take my neighbor's car
when I want to drive to the airport. -
6:22 - 6:23I take my own car, right?
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6:23 - 6:25I have some boundaries.
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6:25 - 6:28Right? There's a system,
a framework of rules -
6:28 - 6:32that allows order to show up
spontaneously when it's needed. -
6:33 - 6:36It's an emergent order that happens
when we have the right set of rules. -
6:36 - 6:40We don't need bosses directing us
when we have the right set of rules. -
6:41 - 6:43So how do we bring this
into an organization? -
6:43 - 6:44What does that look like?
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6:44 - 6:47That's really the question
that holacracy answers for us; -
6:47 - 6:49it gives us a system -
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6:49 - 6:52a system of rules, a framework
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6:52 - 6:54to get order without bosses.
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6:55 - 6:58Let's look at some of the big shifts
that it brings into an organization. -
6:58 - 7:00One is, something
we're used to in organizations -
7:00 - 7:03is the static job description, right?
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7:03 - 7:06How many of you, by the way,
in your companies, -
7:06 - 7:09within the past 24 hours or so,
have run to your job description -
7:09 - 7:13to figure out with real good clarity
what's needed from you today? -
7:13 - 7:15Right? Probably not many.
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7:15 - 7:17They are typically useless.
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7:17 - 7:20They're out of date
by the time they roll off the printer. -
7:20 - 7:24Holacracy replaces that with a very
different kind of job description, -
7:24 - 7:26if you will, or a role description.
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7:26 - 7:29And they're dynamic;
they're changing constantly. -
7:29 - 7:33They're not somebody's good idea
that they invented in their own head, -
7:33 - 7:35a year ago, of what you should be doing.
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7:35 - 7:37They're the result of you
and your colleagues -
7:37 - 7:40working together every day
and trying to figure out, -
7:40 - 7:42What do we need to pay attention to
to get the work done? -
7:43 - 7:47And there's a process
for capturing that in a set or roles. -
7:47 - 7:50They give you real grounded clarity
that you do want to go look at, -
7:50 - 7:51often every day,
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7:51 - 7:53because it gives you real information
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7:53 - 7:56about what we've learned together
and how we should work together. -
7:56 - 8:00And the other thing here is
when you have a role, -
8:00 - 8:06you need the authority and autonomy
to go execute it in an organization. -
8:06 - 8:09And with most companies
we see the management hierarchy -
8:09 - 8:10trying to delegate authority.
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8:10 - 8:13But we all know, really, who's in charge.
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8:13 - 8:16Right? And when the boss
says something, you know - -
8:16 - 8:18the boss gives you a "suggestion."
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8:18 - 8:20You know what that kind of means, right?
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8:20 - 8:23With holacracy, it's truly
a distributed authority paradigm, -
8:23 - 8:27much like our city example,
our real lives, right? -
8:27 - 8:31I know that I have the authority
and autonomy to live my life, -
8:31 - 8:35to use my car and my computer,
and my neighbor doesn't. -
8:35 - 8:40You know, there's no boss to tell me
what to do with my property, my life. -
8:40 - 8:42And that's what holacracy
brings into an organization. -
8:42 - 8:47So when you have a role,
you have the autonomy to execute it. -
8:47 - 8:49There is no boss to contradict you.
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8:49 - 8:51It is yours to lead.
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8:52 - 8:53Which can also be uncomfortable
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8:53 - 8:55because it's yours to lead.
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8:56 - 8:57It's your role.
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8:57 - 8:59You have true distributed authority.
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8:59 - 9:01And so does everyone else.
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9:01 - 9:03Again, my neighbor
has his authority; I have mine. -
9:03 - 9:06The same is true in an organization
running with holacracy. -
9:06 - 9:08We each have authority;
it's different authority. -
9:08 - 9:12No one has authority over someone else;
it's distributed authority. -
9:13 - 9:15Another key shift here is -
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9:15 - 9:18Anyone been through
the large-scale re-orgs? -
9:18 - 9:20You know, every few years or so, right?
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9:20 - 9:23Instead of that, holacracy says,
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9:23 - 9:25You know what? We do need to re-org.
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9:25 - 9:28We need to do it in small
micro-adjustments constantly, -
9:28 - 9:29throughout the company.
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9:29 - 9:30So there is a process,
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9:30 - 9:33it's called a governance process,
that holacracy adds. -
9:33 - 9:36And it's done in every team.
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9:36 - 9:39And what it's doing is inviting
everyone who works on that team -
9:39 - 9:41to update those dynamic roles,
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9:41 - 9:45to encode more clarity, more transparency
of what do we really need to do -
9:45 - 9:47to work together better.
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9:48 - 9:51This governance process happens
in every team as we learn together, -
9:51 - 9:54and we're constantly re-organizing
our team in little ways. -
9:55 - 9:59So change becomes a constant
distributed function of the organization. -
9:59 - 10:04And finally, anyone master the art
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10:04 - 10:07of getting change done through politics?
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10:07 - 10:09You kind of have to
in a lot of organizations today. -
10:09 - 10:11If you really want
to get change to happen, -
10:11 - 10:13you've got to learn
to play the political game. -
10:13 - 10:15I learned early on
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10:15 - 10:18that if the boss didn't see
whatever it was I thought was needed, -
10:18 - 10:20it wasn't going to get very far.
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10:20 - 10:23So if you want to enact change,
you've got to play the politics. -
10:23 - 10:28Well, instead of that, what holacracy
gives you is a transparent set of rules - -
10:28 - 10:31rules of the game for how to enact change.
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10:31 - 10:34So instead of having to go
and convince everyone and build consensus, -
10:34 - 10:36anyone been in
the kind of painful meetings -
10:36 - 10:38where you're trying to build
buy-in and consensus -
10:38 - 10:40with everyone else in the room?
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10:40 - 10:43And you get through hours of meeting
just trying to do that -
10:43 - 10:45and don't make much
in the way of actual work or decisions? -
10:45 - 10:48I'd much rather go
into a disciplined process -
10:48 - 10:52that allows me the ability to sense
something that I think should be better, -
10:52 - 10:56and bring a proposal to change it,
and a process to hold that -
10:56 - 10:58so I don't have to play the politics
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10:58 - 11:00and get the buy-in
and consensus and all that. -
11:00 - 11:01Holacracy adds that in every team -
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11:01 - 11:05a way, a process, a governance process,
again, to change things. -
11:05 - 11:09And those rules are held
just like they are in society, -
11:09 - 11:10in a constitution.
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11:11 - 11:12So the first move we make
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11:12 - 11:17when my company helps others
adopt holacracy use this practice, -
11:17 - 11:19when we go into an organization
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11:19 - 11:21and they've kind of
gotten a taste of this, -
11:21 - 11:23and they're pretty sure
they want to do it, -
11:23 - 11:26the first move is for the CEO
to sign a declaration -
11:26 - 11:30ceding their authority
to run the company however they want -
11:30 - 11:33into a constitutional rule-set.
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11:33 - 11:35This is an interesting shift.
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11:35 - 11:40Can you imagine that - if you were a CEO
to cede that authority - -
11:40 - 11:43it's kind of like the dictator, you know?
giving way, stepping back -
11:43 - 11:47and saying, "You know what, there is
a better way to run this country." -
11:47 - 11:50And I'm going to let go of my authority
to make that happen -
11:50 - 11:52and allow it to be distributed.
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11:52 - 11:54It's the same within an organization here.
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11:54 - 11:58It's a distributed authority paradigm
held in a rule system in a constitution. -
11:58 - 12:00So we have the organizations
around the world now -
12:00 - 12:03that are using holacracy
are all using that constitution, -
12:03 - 12:04that set of rules.
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12:04 - 12:07They're transparent, they're written down,
everyone can see them, -
12:07 - 12:11and everyone is bound by the same rules;
no one is above the law. -
12:13 - 12:16So let me show you an example
of how this looks in practice. -
12:16 - 12:18Here's an example of one of these roles.
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12:18 - 12:21And remember, this is not just
some job description written in advance, -
12:21 - 12:24this is the result of our team
learning together -
12:24 - 12:29and figuring out what do we really need
for me in my holacracy spokesperson role, -
12:29 - 12:31which is the role
that brings me here today. -
12:31 - 12:34And I have a purpose; every role
in holacracy has a purpose. -
12:34 - 12:36This is a purpose-driven operating system.
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12:36 - 12:37The whole point of holacracy
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12:37 - 12:40is to help an organization
express some higher purpose. -
12:41 - 12:43And that breaks down into every role.
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12:43 - 12:45So my role has a purpose,
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12:45 - 12:48and with that constitution at play,
my autonomy is protected; -
12:48 - 12:54I have the authority in this role
to do anything that makes sense to me -
12:54 - 12:56to express the purpose of my role
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12:56 - 13:00or one of the accountabilities
that others are counting on me for. -
13:01 - 13:04I have the authority to take any action
that makes sense to me, -
13:04 - 13:08as long as I don't violate
some other role's property, -
13:08 - 13:09just like I do in real life.
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13:09 - 13:11I can do whatever makes sense to me
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13:11 - 13:14as long as I don't violate
somebody else's property -
13:14 - 13:15or their person.
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13:15 - 13:17Same here.
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13:17 - 13:19So, really interesting
to show up in this paradigm -
13:19 - 13:21where there's no boss
to ask permission for. -
13:21 - 13:24I don't need permission from anyone.
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13:24 - 13:26Alright? In fact, in most organizations,
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13:26 - 13:29you don't really have
the authority to do something -
13:29 - 13:32unless you go out
and get permission of some sort. -
13:32 - 13:34You have to ask first.
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13:35 - 13:37With holacracy, you have
the authority to do anything, -
13:37 - 13:40unless it's explicitly against the rules.
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13:41 - 13:43And let's see how that comes into play.
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13:43 - 13:45Here's a colleague of mine's role:
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13:45 - 13:48Web Architect - this is my colleague
Olivier who fills this role - -
13:48 - 13:52and his role has what holacracy calls
a domain - in this case our website - -
13:52 - 13:54a domain means property.
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13:54 - 13:57So this is telling him
that his website architect role -
13:57 - 13:58controls the domain of website.
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13:58 - 14:00That means, to me,
in my spokesperson role, -
14:00 - 14:03I can do anything I want
to express the purpose of my role, -
14:03 - 14:07but I can't go mess
with his property, the website. -
14:08 - 14:10Alright? Great! We need
boundaries in organizations. -
14:10 - 14:12We need order.
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14:13 - 14:15When we throw out a management hierarchy,
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14:15 - 14:17it's not just about throwing it out
and going to chaos, -
14:17 - 14:19it's about replacing it with a system
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14:19 - 14:21that actually allows
better emergent order. -
14:22 - 14:23And this is an example -
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14:23 - 14:27so I know if I want to update the website
to serve my spokesperson role, -
14:27 - 14:29I need his permission; it's his property.
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14:29 - 14:32And I know I can count on him
for some things too. -
14:33 - 14:35And he can count on me for some things.
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14:35 - 14:38We don't have any
boss - subordinate relationship. -
14:38 - 14:41We are two peers
that are each leading our roles -
14:41 - 14:43and following each other's roles.
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14:43 - 14:46We each get to be a leader and a follower
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14:46 - 14:49depending on what domain we're in,
what we're talking about. -
14:49 - 14:52That's a very different way
of running an organization. -
14:52 - 14:54And the cool thing about these roles
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14:54 - 14:56is this is not a static
bureaucratic artifact. -
14:56 - 15:01As I said, these exist in a dynamic flux -
they're constantly changing. -
15:01 - 15:04And they exist in what we call
a "circle" in holacracy. -
15:04 - 15:06And a circle is the group of roles
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15:06 - 15:08that all work together
for some broader purpose. -
15:08 - 15:10In this case, we have
an "Outreach" circle. -
15:10 - 15:12Which is kind of our marketing circle.
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15:12 - 15:15And that holds the roles
of holacracy spokesperson -
15:15 - 15:17and web architect and many others.
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15:17 - 15:19And this circle has a governance process.
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15:20 - 15:23So about twice a month
we gather as a circle. -
15:23 - 15:26And everyone who's
filling a role in that circle -
15:26 - 15:28is invited to join us and to participate.
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15:28 - 15:31And in this process we update these roles,
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15:31 - 15:34we figure out, What do I need
to count on for my colleagues? -
15:34 - 15:35And we make proposals,
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15:35 - 15:37and we process those
through a disciplined meeting structure -
15:37 - 15:39that allows us at the end of the day
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15:39 - 15:42to have more clarity on
what do we need from each other, -
15:42 - 15:43more transparency on how we work.
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15:44 - 15:46And this is happening
throughout the organization -
15:46 - 15:48in every circle, not just one.
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15:48 - 15:50There are many circles
throughout our company. -
15:50 - 15:52And there are circles within circles.
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15:52 - 15:54It's a very organic system.
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15:54 - 15:58I like to think of this kind of like
cells within organs within a body. -
15:58 - 16:04This is the same kind of structure
that you have, right? as a human. -
16:04 - 16:09Our bodies are full of autonomous units -
every cell has autonomy. Right? -
16:09 - 16:12There's no boss cell
that tells the other cells what to do. -
16:13 - 16:17Every cell has a boundary,
has autonomy, it controls itself. -
16:17 - 16:21And, it has to be
a part of a broader system. -
16:21 - 16:23It has some accountabilities to enact;
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16:23 - 16:25it has to be a good citizen
in its environment. -
16:25 - 16:27And yet, broaden up one level,
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16:27 - 16:31we have organs that are also
autonomous entities. -
16:32 - 16:34They have their own functions,
their own processes, -
16:34 - 16:37and yet they exist
within a broader system. -
16:37 - 16:38This is nature's way of scaling.
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16:38 - 16:41This is nature's way
of dealing with complexity - -
16:41 - 16:43lots of it -
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16:43 - 16:46by distributing autonomy
through every level of a system, -
16:46 - 16:48like this.
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16:48 - 16:49And having governance,
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16:49 - 16:53a function of actually dynamically
constantly responding to our environment -
16:53 - 16:56and learning and changing - distributed
again throughout the whole system. -
16:56 - 16:58Same thing here.
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16:58 - 17:00The other interesting thing
with holacracy - -
17:00 - 17:02these circles are not
entirely disconnected. -
17:02 - 17:05There's representatives
of any broader circle within subcircles. -
17:05 - 17:09So our general company circle,
or GCC here, right? -
17:09 - 17:12that circle has representatives
in each of these subcircles you see, -
17:12 - 17:14and vice versa.
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17:14 - 17:16Our outreach circle
elects a representative -
17:16 - 17:20to serve outreach - that circle's
interests within the broader circle -
17:20 - 17:22to organize all of the other circles.
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17:22 - 17:26So there's kind of this connected,
distributed system -
17:26 - 17:30that looks very different than any
management hierarchy I've ever seen. -
17:30 - 17:32And in every layer there's autonomy,
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17:32 - 17:34right down to the individual roles.
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17:35 - 17:37Very different way of running a company.
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17:37 - 17:40The other really cool thing about this:
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17:40 - 17:42Change is constant,
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17:42 - 17:46and it's driven by what you are sensing
in your role, getting work done. -
17:46 - 17:50And you know anything sensed by anyone
anywhere in the company -
17:50 - 17:53has a place to go to get rapidly
and reliably processed -
17:53 - 17:55into meaningful change.
-
17:56 - 17:57So,
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17:57 - 17:59tensions drive everything -
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17:59 - 18:00that sense that we have of the gap
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18:00 - 18:03between where we are
and where we could be. -
18:03 - 18:05That's driving change in this.
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18:05 - 18:06So ...
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18:06 - 18:07If you want to learn more,
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18:07 - 18:09please check out
the website, holacracy.org -
18:09 - 18:12or my book coming out soon, "Holacracy."
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18:12 - 18:14Thank you for your time. Appreciate it.
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18:14 - 18:15(Applause)
- Title:
- Holacracy: A radical new approach to management | Brian Robertson | TEDxGrandRapids
- Description:
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In his engaging talk, Brian Robertson explains holacracy, a complete system for structuring a company without a management hierarchy, yet with clear accountability, authority and agility.
Brian Robertson is an experienced entrepreneur, CEO and the creator of holacracy, a management system for governing and running organizations without a typical management hierarchy. A variety of global leaders have implemented holacracy, including Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh, Twitter co-founder Ev Williams, and the best-selling author of Getting Things Done, David Allen. Brian previously founded a software development firm that won numerous awards for both fast business growth and innovative people practices. He is the author of the upcoming book, Holacracy: The New Management System for a Rapidly Changing World.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 18:21