The mysterious microbes living deep inside the earth -- and how they could help humanity
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0:01 - 0:04It may seem like we're all standing
on solid earth right now, -
0:04 - 0:05but we're not.
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0:06 - 0:10The rocks and the dirt underneath us
are crisscrossed by tiny little fractures -
0:10 - 0:12and empty spaces.
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0:12 - 0:17And these empty spaces are filled
with astronomical quantities of microbes, -
0:17 - 0:18such as these ones.
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0:19 - 0:22The deepest that we found microbes
so far into the earth -
0:22 - 0:24is five kilometers down.
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0:24 - 0:26So like, if you pointed
yourself at the ground -
0:26 - 0:29and took off running into the ground,
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0:29 - 0:32you could run an entire 5K race
and microbes would line your whole path. -
0:33 - 0:36So you may not have ever thought
about these microbes -
0:36 - 0:37that are deep inside earth's crust,
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0:37 - 0:40but you probably thought
about the microbes living in our guts. -
0:40 - 0:42If you add up the gut microbiomes
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0:42 - 0:45of all the people
and all the animals on the planet, -
0:45 - 0:49collectively, this weighs
about 100,000 tons. -
0:49 - 0:53This is a huge biome that we carry
in our bellies every single day. -
0:54 - 0:55We should all be proud.
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0:55 - 0:56(Laughter)
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0:56 - 1:00But it pales in comparison
to the number of microbes -
1:00 - 1:03that are covering
the entire surface of the earth, -
1:03 - 1:06like in our soils,
our rivers and our oceans. -
1:06 - 1:10Collectively, these weigh
about two billion tons. -
1:10 - 1:13But it turns out that the majority
of microbes on earth -
1:13 - 1:17aren't even in oceans or our guts
or sewage treatment plants. -
1:17 - 1:19Most of them are actually
inside the earth's crust. -
1:19 - 1:23So collectively,
these weigh 40 billion tons. -
1:24 - 1:27This is one of the biggest
biomes on the planet, -
1:27 - 1:31and we didn't even know it existed
until a few decades ago. -
1:31 - 1:34So the possibilities
for what life is like down there, -
1:34 - 1:36or what it might do for humans,
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1:36 - 1:38are limitless.
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1:38 - 1:40This is a map showing a red dot
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1:40 - 1:44for every place where we've gotten
pretty good deep subsurface samples -
1:44 - 1:45with modern microbiological methods,
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1:45 - 1:47and you may be impressed
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1:47 - 1:49that we're getting a pretty good
global coverage, -
1:49 - 1:52but actually, if you remember
that these are the only places -
1:52 - 1:54that we have samples from,
it looks a little worse. -
1:55 - 1:56If we were all in an alien spaceship,
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1:56 - 2:00trying to reconstruct a map of the globe
from only these samples, -
2:00 - 2:02we'd never be able to do it.
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2:03 - 2:06So people sometimes say to me,
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2:06 - 2:09"Yeah, there's a lot of microbes
in the subsurface, but ... -
2:09 - 2:11aren't they just kind of dormant?"
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2:12 - 2:13This is a good point.
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2:13 - 2:18Relative to a ficus plant or the measles
or my kid's guinea pigs, -
2:18 - 2:21these microbes probably
aren't doing much of anything at all. -
2:21 - 2:25We know that they have to be slow,
because there's so many of them. -
2:25 - 2:28If they all started dividing
at the rate of E. coli, -
2:28 - 2:31then they would double the entire
weight of the earth, rocks included, -
2:31 - 2:33over a single night.
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2:33 - 2:38In fact, many of them probably haven't
even undergone a single cell division -
2:38 - 2:40since the time of ancient Egypt.
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2:40 - 2:42Which is just crazy.
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2:42 - 2:47Like, how do you wrap your head
around things that are so long-lived? -
2:47 - 2:50But I thought of an analogy
that I really love, -
2:50 - 2:52but it's weird and it's complicated.
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2:52 - 2:54So I hope that you can all
go there with me. -
2:54 - 2:56Alright, let's try it.
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2:56 - 2:59It's like trying to figure out
the life cycle of a tree ... -
2:59 - 3:01if you only lived for a day.
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3:01 - 3:06So like if human life span was only a day,
and we lived in winter, -
3:06 - 3:07then you would go your entire life
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3:07 - 3:10without ever seeing a tree
with a leaf on it. -
3:10 - 3:12And there would be so many
human generations -
3:12 - 3:14that would pass by within a single winter
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3:14 - 3:16that you may not even have access
to a history book -
3:16 - 3:20that says anything other than the fact
that trees are always lifeless sticks -
3:20 - 3:22that don't do anything.
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3:22 - 3:23Of course, this is ridiculous.
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3:23 - 3:26We know that trees
are just waiting for summer -
3:26 - 3:27so they can reactivate.
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3:27 - 3:29But if the human life span
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3:29 - 3:32were significantly shorter
than that of trees, -
3:32 - 3:36we might be completely oblivious
to this totally mundane fact. -
3:37 - 3:42So when we say that these deep
subsurface microbes are just dormant, -
3:42 - 3:46are we like people who die after a day,
trying to figure out how trees work? -
3:47 - 3:48What if these deep subsurface organisms
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3:49 - 3:51are just waiting
for their version of summer, -
3:51 - 3:54but our lives are too short
for us to see it? -
3:55 - 3:58If you take E. coli
and seal it up in a test tube, -
3:58 - 4:00with no food or nutrients,
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4:00 - 4:02and leave it there for months to years,
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4:02 - 4:05most of the cells die off, of course,
because they're starving. -
4:05 - 4:08But a few of the cells survive.
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4:08 - 4:10If you take these old surviving cells
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4:10 - 4:13and compete them,
also under starvation conditions, -
4:13 - 4:16against a new, fast-growing
culture of E. coli, -
4:16 - 4:20the grizzled old tough guys
beat out the squeaky clean upstarts -
4:20 - 4:21every single time.
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4:21 - 4:26So this is evidence there's actually
an evolutionary payoff -
4:26 - 4:28to being extraordinarily slow.
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4:29 - 4:31So it's possible
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4:31 - 4:37that maybe we should not equate
being slow with being unimportant. -
4:38 - 4:41Maybe these out-of-sight,
out-of-mind microbes -
4:41 - 4:43could actually be helpful to humanity.
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4:44 - 4:45OK, so as far as we know,
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4:45 - 4:48there are two ways to do
subsurface living. -
4:48 - 4:52The first is to wait for food
to trickle down from the surface world, -
4:52 - 4:56like trying to eat the leftovers
of a picnic that happened 1,000 years ago. -
4:56 - 4:58Which is a crazy way to live,
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4:58 - 5:01but shockingly seems to work out
for a lot of microbes in earth. -
5:02 - 5:05The other possibility
is for a microbe to just say, -
5:05 - 5:08"Nah, I don't need the surface world.
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5:08 - 5:09I'm good down here."
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5:09 - 5:11For microbes that go this route,
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5:11 - 5:14they have to get everything
that they need in order to survive -
5:14 - 5:16from inside the earth.
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5:18 - 5:21Some things are actually
easier for them to get. -
5:21 - 5:23They're more abundant inside the earth,
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5:23 - 5:26like water or nutrients,
like nitrogen and iron and phosphorus, -
5:26 - 5:28or places to live.
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5:28 - 5:31These are things that we literally
kill each other to get ahold of -
5:31 - 5:32up at the surface world.
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5:32 - 5:36But in the subsurface,
the problem is finding enough energy. -
5:36 - 5:37Up at the surface,
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5:37 - 5:41plants can chemically knit together
carbon dioxide molecules into yummy sugars -
5:41 - 5:44as fast as the sun's photons
hit their leaves. -
5:44 - 5:47But in the subsurface, of course,
there's no sunlight, -
5:47 - 5:50so this ecosystem has to solve the problem
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5:50 - 5:53of who is going to make the food
for everybody else. -
5:53 - 5:57The subsurface needs something
that's like a plant -
5:57 - 5:59but it breathes rocks.
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6:00 - 6:03Luckily, such a thing exists,
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6:03 - 6:05and it's called a chemolithoautotroph.
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6:05 - 6:06(Laughter)
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6:06 - 6:10Which is a microbe
that uses chemicals -- "chemo," -
6:10 - 6:12from rocks -- "litho,"
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6:12 - 6:15to make food -- "autotroph."
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6:15 - 6:18And they can do this
with a ton of different elements. -
6:18 - 6:22They can do this with sulphur,
iron, manganese, nitrogen, carbon, -
6:22 - 6:25some of them can use
pure electrons, straight up. -
6:26 - 6:28Like, if you cut the end
off of an electrical cord, -
6:28 - 6:30they could breathe it like a snorkel.
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6:30 - 6:31(Laughter)
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6:31 - 6:33These chemolithoautotrophs
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6:33 - 6:35take the energy that they get
from these processes -
6:35 - 6:38and use it to make food, like plants do.
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6:38 - 6:41But we know that plants do more
than just make food. -
6:41 - 6:43They also make a waste product, oxygen,
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6:43 - 6:45which we are 100 percent dependent upon.
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6:46 - 6:49But the waste product
that these chemolithoautotrophs make -
6:49 - 6:51is often in the form of minerals,
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6:51 - 6:56like rust or pyrite, like fool's gold,
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6:56 - 6:58or carminites, like limestone.
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6:59 - 7:05So what we have are microbes
that are really, really slow, like rocks, -
7:06 - 7:10that get their energy from rocks,
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7:10 - 7:13that make as their waste
product other rocks. -
7:13 - 7:17So am I talking about biology,
or am I talking about geology? -
7:17 - 7:20This stuff really blurs the lines.
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7:20 - 7:21(Laughter)
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7:21 - 7:23So if I'm going to do this thing,
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7:23 - 7:26and I'm going to be a biologist
who studies microbes -
7:26 - 7:28that kind of act like rocks,
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7:28 - 7:32then I should probably
start studying geology. -
7:32 - 7:35And what's the coolest part of geology?
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7:35 - 7:36Volcanoes.
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7:36 - 7:38(Laughter)
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7:38 - 7:41This is looking inside the crater
of Poás Volcano in Costa Rica. -
7:42 - 7:46Many volcanoes on earth arise
because an oceanic tectonic plate -
7:46 - 7:47crashes into a continental plate.
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7:47 - 7:49As this oceanic plate subducts
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7:49 - 7:52or gets moved underneath
this continental plate, -
7:52 - 7:55things like water and carbon dioxide
and other materials -
7:55 - 7:56get squeezed out of it,
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7:56 - 7:58like ringing a wet washcloth.
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7:58 - 8:02So in this way, subduction zones
are like portals into the deep earth, -
8:02 - 8:06where materials are exchanged between
the surface and the subsurface world. -
8:06 - 8:09So I was recently invited
by some of my colleagues in Costa Rica -
8:09 - 8:12to come and work with them
on some of the volcanoes. -
8:12 - 8:17And of course I said yes,
because, I mean, Costa Rica is beautiful, -
8:17 - 8:20but also because it sits on top
of one of these subduction zones. -
8:20 - 8:23We wanted to ask
the very specific question: -
8:23 - 8:26Why is it that the carbon dioxide
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8:26 - 8:29that comes out of this deeply buried
oceanic tectonic plate -
8:29 - 8:31is only coming out of the volcanoes?
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8:31 - 8:34Why don't we see it distributed
throughout the entire subduction zone? -
8:34 - 8:37Do the microbes have something
to do with that? -
8:37 - 8:40So this is a picture of me
inside Poás Volcano, -
8:40 - 8:42along with my colleague
Donato Giovannelli. -
8:43 - 8:46That lake that we're standing next to
is made of pure battery acid. -
8:46 - 8:50I know this because we were measuring
the pH when this picture was taken. -
8:50 - 8:53And at some point while
we were working inside the crater, -
8:53 - 8:58I turned to my Costa Rican colleague
Carlos Ramírez and I said, -
8:58 - 9:01"Alright, if this thing
starts erupting right now, -
9:01 - 9:03what's our exit strategy?"
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9:03 - 9:06And he said, "Oh, yeah,
great question, it's totally easy. -
9:06 - 9:10Just turn around and enjoy the view."
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9:10 - 9:11(Laughter)
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9:11 - 9:12"Because it will be your last."
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9:12 - 9:14(Laughter)
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9:14 - 9:17And it may sound like
he was being overly dramatic, -
9:17 - 9:22but 54 days after I was standing
next to that lake, -
9:22 - 9:23this happened.
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9:23 - 9:24Audience: Oh!
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9:25 - 9:27Freaking terrifying, right?
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9:27 - 9:28(Laughs)
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9:29 - 9:33This was the biggest eruption
this volcano had had in 60-some-odd years, -
9:33 - 9:36and not long after this video ends,
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9:36 - 9:38the camera that was taking
the video is obliterated -
9:38 - 9:41and the entire lake
that we had been sampling -
9:41 - 9:42vaporizes completely.
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9:43 - 9:45But I also want to be clear
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9:45 - 9:47that we were pretty sure
this was not going to happen -
9:47 - 9:49on the day that we were
actually in the volcano, -
9:49 - 9:52because Costa Rica monitors
its volcanoes very carefully -
9:52 - 9:54through the OVSICORI Institute,
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9:54 - 9:57and we had scientists from that institute
with us on that day. -
9:57 - 10:00But the fact that it erupted
illustrates perfectly -
10:00 - 10:03that if you want to look
for where carbon dioxide gas -
10:03 - 10:04is coming out of this oceanic plate,
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10:04 - 10:08then you should look no further
than the volcanoes themselves. -
10:08 - 10:10But if you go to Costa Rica,
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10:10 - 10:12you may notice that in addition
to these volcanoes -
10:12 - 10:16there are tons of cozy little hot springs
all over the place. -
10:16 - 10:19Some of the water in these hot springs
is actually bubbling up -
10:19 - 10:22from this deeply buried oceanic plate.
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10:22 - 10:25And our hypothesis was
that there should be carbon dioxide -
10:25 - 10:26bubbling up with it,
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10:26 - 10:30but something deep underground
was filtering it out. -
10:30 - 10:34So we spent two weeks
driving all around Costa Rica, -
10:34 - 10:37sampling every hot spring we could find --
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10:37 - 10:38it was awful, let me tell you.
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10:38 - 10:44And then we spent the next two years
measuring and analyzing data. -
10:44 - 10:48And if you're not a scientist, I'll just
let you know that the big discoveries -
10:48 - 10:51don't really happen
when you're at a beautiful hot spring -
10:51 - 10:52or on a public stage;
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10:52 - 10:54they happen when you're hunched
over a messy computer -
10:55 - 10:57or you're troubleshooting
a difficult instrument, -
10:57 - 10:59or you're Skyping your colleagues
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10:59 - 11:01because you are completely
confused about your data. -
11:01 - 11:05Scientific discoveries,
kind of like deep subsurface microbes, -
11:05 - 11:06can be very, very slow.
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11:07 - 11:11But in our case,
this really paid off this one time. -
11:11 - 11:15We discovered that literally
tons of carbon dioxide -
11:15 - 11:18were coming out of this
deeply buried oceanic plate. -
11:18 - 11:20And the thing that was keeping
them underground -
11:21 - 11:24and keeping it from being released
out into the atmosphere -
11:24 - 11:25was that deep underground,
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11:25 - 11:29underneath all the adorable sloths
and toucans of Costa Rica, -
11:29 - 11:31were chemolithoautotrophs.
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11:31 - 11:35These microbes and the chemical processes
that were happening around them -
11:35 - 11:38were converting this carbon dioxide
into carbonate mineral -
11:38 - 11:40and locking it up underground.
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11:40 - 11:42Which makes you wonder:
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11:42 - 11:45If these subsurface processes
are so good at sucking up -
11:45 - 11:48all the carbon dioxide
coming from below them, -
11:48 - 11:50could they also help us
with a little carbon problem -
11:51 - 11:53we've got going on up at the surface?
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11:53 - 11:57Humans are releasing enough
carbon dioxide into our atmosphere -
11:57 - 12:00that we are decreasing
the ability of our planet -
12:00 - 12:02to support life as we know it.
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12:03 - 12:05And scientists and engineers
and entrepreneurs -
12:05 - 12:08are working on methods
to pull carbon dioxide -
12:08 - 12:09out of these point sources,
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12:09 - 12:11so that they're not released
into the atmosphere. -
12:11 - 12:13And they need to put it somewhere.
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12:13 - 12:14So for this reason,
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12:14 - 12:18we need to keep studying places
where this carbon might be stored, -
12:18 - 12:20possibly in the subsurface,
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12:20 - 12:23to know what's going to happen to it
when it goes there. -
12:23 - 12:26Will these deep subsurface microbes
be a problem because they're too slow -
12:26 - 12:28to actually keep anything down there?
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12:28 - 12:29Or will they be helpful
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12:29 - 12:33because they'll help convert this stuff
to solid carbonate minerals? -
12:34 - 12:36If we can make such a big breakthrough
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12:36 - 12:39just from one study
that we did in Costa Rica, -
12:39 - 12:42then imagine what else
is waiting to be discovered down there. -
12:42 - 12:48This new field of geo-bio-chemistry,
or deep subsurface biology, -
12:48 - 12:49or whatever you want to call it,
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12:49 - 12:51is going to have huge implications,
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12:51 - 12:53not just for mitigating climate change,
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12:53 - 12:57but possibly for understanding
how life and earth have coevolved, -
12:58 - 13:02or finding new products that are useful
for industrial or medical applications. -
13:02 - 13:05Maybe even predicting earthquakes
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13:05 - 13:07or finding life outside our planet.
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13:07 - 13:10It could even help us understand
the origin of life itself. -
13:11 - 13:14Fortunately, I don't have
to do this by myself. -
13:14 - 13:17I have amazing colleagues
all over the world -
13:17 - 13:21who are cracking into the mysteries
of this deep subsurface world. -
13:22 - 13:27And it may seem like life
buried deep within the earth's crust -
13:27 - 13:31is so far away from our daily experiences
that it's kind of irrelevant. -
13:31 - 13:35But the truth is
that this weird, slow life -
13:35 - 13:39may actually have the answers
to some of the greatest mysteries -
13:39 - 13:40of life on earth.
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13:40 - 13:41Thank you.
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13:41 - 13:46(Applause)
- Title:
- The mysterious microbes living deep inside the earth -- and how they could help humanity
- Speaker:
- Karen Lloyd
- Description:
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The ground beneath your feet is home to a massive, mysterious world of microbes -- some of which have been in the earth's crust for hundreds of thousands of years. What's it like down there? Take a trip to the volcanoes and hot springs of Costa Rica as microbiologist Karen Lloyd shines a light on these subterranean organisms and shows how they could have a profound impact on life up here.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
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- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 13:59
Yasushi Aoki
7:56 like ringing a wet washcloth.
# ringing -> wringing
Yasushi Aoki
6:56 or carminites, like limestone.
# carminites -> carbonates
note: limestone = calcium carbonate