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    Thank you very much.
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    Thanks everybody for coming,…
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    If you are packaging software and you want
    me to work on with you,
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    this is how you can do that.
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    It is a very self-??? talk:
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    I just want to explain some of the things
    that I like,
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    some practice that I prefer about Debian
    packaging,
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    and I don't pretend this is any sort of
    official,
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    permanent or final thing.
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    I just wanted to share some ideas that I
    have about the way that I work with
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    packages, in the hope that maybe, hmm,
    for two hopes:
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    One is that I hope that I can show you
    something that you have not heard of,
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    or maybe you were doing differently,
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    or maybe you think it is the right think
    to do and it is just nice to see somebody
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    somebody else doing it.
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    My second hope is that you can tell me
    what I am doing wrong,
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    and you can help me learn and improve
    on my own packaging techniques.
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    If you see something that I am proposing
    up here,
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    and you think there is a problem with it,
    I would like to hear about it too.
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    I just want to see more of the culture
    within Debian,
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    of people who are doing packaging,
    explaining what they are doing,
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    and so I thought I would just step up and
    explain:
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    "Here is some of the practice that I do",
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    In the hope that other people will do the
    same and explain what they are doing,
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    and maybe they can learn from me and
    I can learn from them.
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    Without much further ????, I am just going
    to dive into it.
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    If you have questions, I am perfectly
    happy to be interrupted,
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    we have some folks with walking mics
    in the crowd:
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    you can just raise your hand.
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    I you have got a question or an
    interruption or whatever,
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    that is fine.
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    I ??? I got the whole 15 minutes,
    I think there are 20 minutes,
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    I ??? the whole time, so there will be
    also time for questions at the end
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    if you prefer.
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    But I do not mind being interrupted.
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    So, this is all on this web page here,
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    you could probably skip this talk and go
    read the web page,
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    but then you would not have the nice
    ??? actions,
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    and it is easier to tell me that I am
    wrong in person,
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    so I would like to have that happen.
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    I put this up on the Debian wiki,
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    because I want anyone to be able to find
    it.
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    If you thing you have got some good ideas,
    you should put it on the Debian Wiki too:
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    other people can take advantage of the
    ideas that you have got.
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    First baseline is: I really like revision
    control.
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    And I know that it makes me a certain
    flavor on nerd,
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    but when we are working with things that
    are as complicated as software packages,
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    hmmm, I think a lot of people don't get
    that in Debian we are not just working on
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    one software package:
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    you are actually probably, if you are doing
    a responsibly work,
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    on at least two software packages, and
    maybe 5.
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    So you have got the version that is
    unstable and you have got
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    the version that you try to maintain for
    stable as well.
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    And we are committing to doing maintenance
    work.
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    A lot of our work in the project is ???
    in nature:
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    we want to clean up the mess and we want
    us to stay out of the way and
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    to make sure things work, functionally,
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    for people who are relying on the
    operating system to not get in their way.
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    So revision control I think is really
    helpful because it means you can
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    keep track of what changes you have done
    on different branches of the project
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    while you are maintaining both of them.
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    Basically, ??? require working with
    the revision system I am comfortable with,
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    I prefer Git, I am not going to have a
    religious word about it.
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    If upstream uses Git, I am even happier,
    and I try to make my packaging depend on
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    upstream's revision control.
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    I like to use 'git-buildpackage', and I
    like to use it with debhelper.
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    If you have not tried out
    'git-buildpackage',
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    we are going to have a
    'git-buildpackage' skill share session
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    later on today actually, and I welcome
    you to come and share your tricks with it,
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    or learn some tricks from other people.
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    It is a particular way that you can keep
    your Debian packaging in a Git repository,
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    and it helps you to keep track of all of
    the changes that ave happened within
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    your packaging and within upstream to
    make sure you are not accidentally
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    making other changes.
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    So it is very easy to go back and review
    what you have done.
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    I find that really useful.
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    I definitely also like to keep upstream's
    source code in the same revision control
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    system.
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    I like to keep the tarballs in the
    revision control system because it means
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    that if someone is interested, they can
    uses a tool called 'debcheckout'.
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    You can use 'debcheckout' with a name of
    a package:
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    you say just "I am really interested in
    package 'foo',
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    let me see the source code for that":
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    debcheckout foo
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    You get the source code, and you get the
    source code from a revision control
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    system that you can now track and you
    can just propose changes on.
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    You can also extract the tarball from that
    revision control system.
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    'debcheckout' actually works even if you
    do not have upstream stuff in there,
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    but I like to keep it all in one revision
    control system,
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    it is just easier to find everything when
    you want.
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    Some of these things that I prefer have
    to do with what the upstream software
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    developer has done, so I am less inclined
    to try the package an upstream software
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    project if they just throw tarballs here
    over the wall to an FTP side
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    every now and then.
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    It makes it more difficult for me to know
    what they are doing,
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    and why they are doing it.
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    So i like it, I have already said, when
    upstream uses Git,
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    I also like when upstream signs their
    releases,
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    and say "hey, this is specific release",
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    Because that is a signal that I can use,
    or somebody else that understands the
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    project: as said "we think that this
    something that other people can use",
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    or "this is a particular version we would
    like other people to test".
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    There are a lot of other situations where
    maybe it is not so important.
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    And having that be cryptographically
    signed is really useful.
Title:
Preferred_Debian_Packaging.webm
Video Language:
English
Team:
Debconf
Projekt:
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