The right climate to migrate | Grammenos Mastrojeni | TEDxMilano
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0:05 - 0:07We can all agree
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0:07 - 0:11that the established motto
"Mors tua, vita mea" -
0:11 - 0:15is one of the most ridiculous sayings
the human mind has ever come up with. -
0:16 - 0:19Mother Earth is telling us,
rather she is screaming at us -
0:20 - 0:22that dealing
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0:22 - 0:26with the smallest, most fragile,
and insignificant of its creatures -
0:27 - 0:30is not an act of goodness or heroism.
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0:30 - 0:32It is just pursuing
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0:32 - 0:36our own crass, cynical
and short-term self-interest. -
0:37 - 0:41This applies to the wrongly named problem
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0:42 - 0:45of climate migrants.
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0:47 - 0:49Let's approach it from the point of view
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0:49 - 0:53of our crass, cynical
and short-term self-interest. -
0:54 - 0:57But we must understand this self-interest.
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0:58 - 1:01You'll see something in this slide
that is familiar to you, -
1:01 - 1:03we call it Europe.
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1:03 - 1:07But have you ever thought about
how strange an idea this is? -
1:07 - 1:11All the continents are marked out
along geographical barriers. -
1:12 - 1:15By that very standard, we are Asia.
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1:15 - 1:16We do not exist.
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1:17 - 1:20Yet we want to be a continent,
indeed the Old Continent. -
1:21 - 1:24What is it that characterises us
as different from Asia? -
1:25 - 1:26A culture, we may say,
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1:26 - 1:29that within its diversity
holds a certain unity. -
1:29 - 1:32And without engaging
in ridiculous talks of race, -
1:32 - 1:36a certain physiognomic homogeneity.
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1:36 - 1:39But then, what is the fundamental
determinant of all this? -
1:39 - 1:42Why are we a unit?
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1:43 - 1:45Well, the determinant is the climate.
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1:46 - 1:49Europe is Europe,
with its particular identity, -
1:49 - 1:52because of its peculiar climate.
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1:53 - 1:55And over this climatic peculiarity
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1:55 - 1:58our joint interest was founded.
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1:59 - 2:02But now things are changing.
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2:03 - 2:06This distinguishing climate of Europe -
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2:07 - 2:10I'm over-simplifying,
but is somehow determined -
2:10 - 2:14by the influence
of the Azores anticyclone. -
2:14 - 2:20Which is receding, increasingly
giving way to the African anticyclone. -
2:20 - 2:21What does this mean?
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2:21 - 2:24It means that, if climate
has been so decisive -
2:24 - 2:27in forging our identity, and our concerns,
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2:27 - 2:29a changing climate
will also change these. -
2:30 - 2:32Will we lose our European identity?
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2:33 - 2:35No, we just make room for another one.
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2:37 - 2:40We will enter into the
community of interests -
2:40 - 2:43of those whose lives are governed
by the African anticyclone. -
2:43 - 2:46From this perspective
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2:46 - 2:49we can try to understand
how we'll be affected -
2:49 - 2:54by those people who are
driven away from their land -
2:55 - 2:58by a changing climate
that makes it less and less fruitful. -
2:59 - 3:02But we must also understand
what we are exactly talking about. -
3:03 - 3:06The accepted wisdom
is that the poorer you are, -
3:06 - 3:08the more likely you are to emigrate -
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3:08 - 3:09and this is simply not true.
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3:09 - 3:11The poorest are held back
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3:11 - 3:14by what is technically called
the "poverty trap". -
3:15 - 3:16They have so little,
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3:16 - 3:18their outlook is so short-term
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3:18 - 3:19that they never think about emigrating.
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3:19 - 3:23Their problem is to find
enough rice in the next two hours. -
3:23 - 3:27And only when they start
to become more secure -
3:27 - 3:33they do consider leaving,
going far away to improve their lifestyle. -
3:33 - 3:40Well, those who have enough
to consider making the journey -
3:40 - 3:42have at least a little bit
of freedom of choice -
3:42 - 3:43and are the real migrants.
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3:44 - 3:46Well managed, they can also have
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3:46 - 3:49a positive role for themselves
and their host countries - -
3:49 - 3:51but that's another story.
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3:51 - 3:53The problem is, climate change
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3:53 - 3:56affects the lives of those
who cannot migrate. -
3:58 - 4:02Those who have to leave
just because their field has dried up. -
4:02 - 4:04These are not migrants.
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4:04 - 4:07They are part of an enforced
displacement of population. -
4:07 - 4:10And those who are forced
into such a population movement -
4:10 - 4:12are of no use to themselves,
or anyone else -
4:12 - 4:15as they also fall prey,
vulnerabile as they are, -
4:15 - 4:21to crime, trafficking,
terrorism, and fanaticism. -
4:22 - 4:24What part does the climate play?
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4:26 - 4:29We are used to hear
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4:29 - 4:35that a changing climate triggers
the most extreme, violent phenomena -
4:35 - 4:39and has the biggest impact on our bodies.
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4:40 - 4:44Heat waves puts older people in trouble,
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4:44 - 4:50aerals - zones of incidence of some
infectious diseases - are expanding. -
4:51 - 4:53Then we also hear
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4:53 - 4:58that violent climatic phenomena
damage our infrastructure. -
4:58 - 5:01Hurricanes cause bridges
to collapse, and so on. -
5:02 - 5:03But almost no one speaks
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5:03 - 5:07of the most devastating effect
of climate change. -
5:08 - 5:09So, what is the greenhouse effect?
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5:09 - 5:12The greenhouse effect is the result
of solar energy intake -
5:12 - 5:18that's trapped in our ecosystem
and not radiated back into space. -
5:20 - 5:21There's a lot of it!
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5:23 - 5:27The actual amount was shared
in another TED talk, about 10 years ago, -
5:27 - 5:29by a scientist,
maybe a little controversial -
5:29 - 5:31but still from NASA: James Hansen.
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5:32 - 5:36It is the equivalent of 400,000
atomic bombs detonating every day. -
5:36 - 5:38And where is this energy funneled,
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5:38 - 5:42if not into our ecosystems,
formed over the millennia? -
5:42 - 5:48It turns into disorder,
it turns into unpredictability -
5:49 - 5:51And where the climate
becomes unpredictable, -
5:51 - 5:53society can hardly handle it.
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5:54 - 5:57If I am a farmer, and I can't
predict when it will rain, -
5:58 - 5:59I don't know when to sow.
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5:59 - 6:01But it's not just a rural problem.
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6:01 - 6:03If I manage the Milan water system,
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6:03 - 6:05and I don't know if it'll snow or not,
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6:05 - 6:08I have huge problems planning ahead.
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6:08 - 6:11Here, if it happens to us,
to the extent that it happens now, -
6:11 - 6:12we can still fix it.
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6:12 - 6:15But if it happens
to a farmer in Burkina Faso -
6:17 - 6:19then the problem is no longer economic.
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6:19 - 6:22A failed harvest,
for a farmer in Valpadana -
6:22 - 6:24can bring about economic losses -
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6:24 - 6:27but he's probably insured,
maybe the local government will help. -
6:27 - 6:29For the farmer from Burkina Faso
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6:29 - 6:33it's the difference between sending
their children to school or not. -
6:33 - 6:35And then it becomes
a human rights problem. -
6:35 - 6:39We understand how a person
under such a pressure -
6:39 - 6:41with her future prospects
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6:41 - 6:44and families basic needs at risk
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6:44 - 6:48can fall prey to migration, fanaticism
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6:49 - 6:53destabilisation of all kinds.
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6:53 - 6:56Is this in the future?
Unfortunately no, It's happening now. -
6:56 - 7:00It's already happening in areas
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7:00 - 7:02with a fragile ecosystem
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7:02 - 7:06superimposed onto a fragile society.
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7:06 - 7:12It's happening in the islands,
that are yelling out in despair. -
7:13 - 7:18The Maldives are putting aside
a portion of the proceeds from tourism -
7:18 - 7:20to buy another island in the future.
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7:21 - 7:25It's happening in the river deltas,
that are becoming salinised. -
7:25 - 7:27It's happening in the Arctic.
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7:27 - 7:30The Arctic populations
are all becoming desperate. -
7:31 - 7:35They are losing their culture's
distinctive traits. -
7:35 - 7:39Which turned them
to alcoholism, to suicide. -
7:40 - 7:45It's happening in the mountains,
which are particularly vulnerable. -
7:45 - 7:48And then it's happening
right in front of us. -
7:49 - 7:54The place where it is happening
most visibly, at the moment, -
7:54 - 7:56is right in front of us.
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7:56 - 7:58Just a short stretch of sea
separates us from it. -
7:58 - 8:02Italy stretches out between
the two shores of the Mediterranean -
8:02 - 8:04like a kind of bridge.
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8:05 - 8:09Let me show you a map
of part of northern Africa. -
8:09 - 8:13It consists mostly of desert
that has been desert for a long time. -
8:14 - 8:17In these deserts,
as we learned this morning, -
8:17 - 8:18are populations
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8:18 - 8:20that have found a way of life
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8:20 - 8:23that's compatible
with that stingy ecosystem. -
8:24 - 8:26But in this area
there is not only the desert. -
8:27 - 8:30An area is also there
that roughly coincides with the Sahel, -
8:30 - 8:32where desertification is taking place.
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8:33 - 8:36If we compare these two areas -
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8:36 - 8:40the desert and desertification zone,
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8:40 - 8:42in objective terms
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8:42 - 8:45the desertification zone
is still a bit more generous, -
8:45 - 8:48still a bit richer, than the desert.
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8:48 - 8:50But in this desertification zone
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8:50 - 8:52the cycles of nature
are no longer dependable on. -
8:52 - 8:55There is a chaotic, unregulated climate
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8:55 - 8:57and the inhabitants can
no longer sustain themselves. -
8:57 - 8:59Look where it is,
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8:59 - 9:02and notice that it matches
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9:02 - 9:05the areas where hunger
and conflicts show up the most, -
9:08 - 9:12the areas most afflicted
by the dynamics of terrorism, -
9:13 - 9:18the areas most afflicted
by illicit trafficking of all kinds - -
9:18 - 9:21arms, money, drugs, human beings.
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9:21 - 9:25And take a look at where nine
out of ten migrants come from - -
9:25 - 9:28those who are creating
a bit of a crisis for us right now. -
9:28 - 9:30If that's the current reality,
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9:30 - 9:33where Italy, in its front line role,
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9:33 - 9:36is poised to set a standard,
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9:37 - 9:39but we must not think
that the problem ends there. -
9:40 - 9:44I'll show you two photos.
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9:45 - 9:46One is a map.
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9:46 - 9:52In this map you can see the glaciers
of Hindu Kush, Himalayas, and Pamir. -
9:53 - 9:54These will eventually melt.
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9:54 - 9:58I have no time to explain why,
but they will not melt gradually, -
9:58 - 10:00proportional to the rise in temperature.
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10:00 - 10:03At a certain point
there will be a collapse. -
10:03 - 10:07At some point, the glaciers
in this zone will break down. -
10:08 - 10:11OK, you may say -
but why should we Italians care? -
10:12 - 10:14Well, the fact is,
every time an element is lost -
10:14 - 10:17from this delicate equilibrium
of the biosphere, -
10:17 - 10:20we don't just lose it
and its physical beauty. -
10:20 - 10:23Its function is also lost,
the part it plays -
10:23 - 10:25in maintaining the balance
of the whole system. -
10:26 - 10:30Glaciers perform many functions:
one of these should interests us a lot. -
10:30 - 10:34They regulate the ordered
outflow of water downstream. -
10:35 - 10:37Local rivers have their source
in those glaciers. -
10:37 - 10:42They irrigate plains where one billion
and four hundred million people live. -
10:43 - 10:49If the glaciers break down here, in
a monsoon area - especially in the south, -
10:50 - 10:53the situation in the valleys
suddenly changes -
10:53 - 10:55from one in which, during the drought,
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10:56 - 10:59the melting glaciers supply
the river with water -
10:59 - 11:02into a disastrous oscillation
between drought and flooding. -
11:03 - 11:07Agriculture and the whole infrastructure
is thrown off balance and much more. -
11:08 - 11:10One billion and four hundred
million people. -
11:10 - 11:16We started to get in trouble
with 380,000 people coming here. -
11:16 - 11:17It all adds up to this.
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11:17 - 11:20The mountains are very fragile ecosystems,
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11:20 - 11:22where very vulnerable people live.
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11:22 - 11:24OK, but they are not so much..
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11:24 - 11:29No no, 22% of the land will be affected
and the 913,000,000 people who live there. -
11:30 - 11:32If they set in motion ...
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11:33 - 11:36And then the other image
shows a flooded subway in New York. -
11:38 - 11:40Rising sea levels
is a very controversial issue. -
11:40 - 11:42It's not clear how bad it will be.
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11:42 - 11:44But now scientists -
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11:44 - 11:45you may have heard
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11:45 - 11:49that a recent report
by the United Nations Panel -
11:49 - 11:51believe it is quite plausible
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11:51 - 11:54that levels will rise by 1,5 metres
by the end of this century. -
11:55 - 11:57So, let's add on
the 42% of the human population -
11:57 - 12:00dwelling along the coasts.
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12:01 - 12:05If the sea rises 1,5 metres
there will be flooded areas. -
12:05 - 12:07But that's not the biggest problem.
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12:07 - 12:10Saltwater intrusion is worse.
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12:10 - 12:14Salt water gets into the soil
and dehydrates it. -
12:14 - 12:15The Romans,
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12:16 - 12:21to make sure a defeated city
would never rise up again, -
12:21 - 12:23poured sea salt on the fields.
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12:23 - 12:27And this is the effect it will have.
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12:28 - 12:33I see from your faces that my
story has really depressed you. -
12:33 - 12:34(Laughter)
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12:34 - 12:37Is all lost? No, we can solve the problem.
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12:37 - 12:39And we can solve it
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12:39 - 12:46in our short-term, cynical
and self-interested way. -
12:48 - 12:49How?
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12:49 - 12:52Well, by reminding ourselves
that we are part of a whole. -
12:53 - 12:54This diagram you see here
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12:54 - 12:56has been developed
by the Barilla foundation. -
12:58 - 12:59It shows two pyramids.
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12:59 - 13:03The first one, the food pyramid,
is very well known. -
13:03 - 13:06It shows the proportion of every type
of food we should be eating -
13:06 - 13:08to stay healthy.
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13:08 - 13:13So, a little red meat,
a little more protein from other sources -
13:13 - 13:17and increasing amounts
of fibre, vegetables, and so on. -
13:17 - 13:19It so happens, if we
juxtapose this pyramid -
13:19 - 13:22over the pyramid showing
the impact on the ecosystem -
13:22 - 13:24of the production
of each category of food, -
13:25 - 13:27they match almost perfectly.
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13:27 - 13:29That is, the more a certain type of food
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13:29 - 13:33is consumed - in excess,
I'm not vegetarian - -
13:34 - 13:38the more it damages
both a person and the ecosystem. -
13:39 - 13:42Hmm, what a spectacular coincidence
for the food sector! -
13:43 - 13:44Only, it's not a coincidence
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13:44 - 13:47and it's not just under
the industry's control. -
13:47 - 13:50It is a paradigm of our relationship
with the ecosystem -
13:50 - 13:53and you don't have to turn
to otherworldly wisdom. -
13:53 - 13:55It is the result of co-evolution.
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13:55 - 13:58It's just normal for us
to be completely healthy -
13:58 - 14:01when we are "tuned"
with the system we are part of. -
14:03 - 14:05If you do not believe me, try it yourself.
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14:05 - 14:06Do a little exercise.
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14:07 - 14:10Make a pyramid of your personal transport.
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14:10 - 14:13You'll notice that the better
your choice of transport -
14:13 - 14:15it is for your health,
for your integral well-being, -
14:15 - 14:17for your social life, your pace of life,
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14:17 - 14:19the more sustainable it gets.
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14:20 - 14:23And this is a bit true in all areas.
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14:23 - 14:25But why am I telling you this?
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14:25 - 14:27Because this gives us a roadmap.
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14:27 - 14:28It gives us a rule.
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14:28 - 14:33What's really good for you,
is good for the planet too. -
14:34 - 14:38Let's move on from the individual
to the global, geostrategic view. -
14:40 - 14:45If the West, as if by magic, decided
to eat according to this pyramid, -
14:47 - 14:50not only would we all be better off
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14:50 - 14:52but it would help to stop
the polarisation of the world -
14:52 - 14:56between the one billion
five hundred million people -
14:56 - 14:58who suffer from disease,
due to poor or excessive nutrition, -
14:58 - 15:02and the 814 million people
who go to bed hungry. -
15:02 - 15:03What does this all mean?
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15:03 - 15:05It means that sustainability
and well-being -
15:05 - 15:09turn into social justice
and redistribution. -
15:09 - 15:13Those resources, consumed in
excess by some, are freed up -
15:13 - 15:16and become available to others.
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15:16 - 15:20A professor from Piacenza
calculated exactly how much. -
15:21 - 15:24If every person registered
as pathologically obese -
15:24 - 15:26by western health services
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15:26 - 15:30abstained from a single can
of fizzy drink a day, -
15:31 - 15:34that would free up enough resources
to feed 56 million people. -
15:34 - 15:37So, my individual well-being
becomes sustainability, -
15:37 - 15:40sustainability becomes fairness,
and fairness becomes peace, -
15:40 - 15:43because a world where all children
have access to decent nutrition -
15:43 - 15:47is also a world that kicks sand
in the face of Boko Haram, ISIS, etc. -
15:47 - 15:51And so I propose this equation,
the Earth equation. -
15:52 - 15:56It seems very personal - my life
in harmony with the planet; -
15:56 - 15:58but it is really a political choice.
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15:58 - 15:59We can apply this method.
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15:59 - 16:03These crescents you see
dug in the ground are in Burkina Faso -
16:03 - 16:05and is a system by which we can recover
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16:06 - 16:10one hectare of desert for $130.
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16:12 - 16:14By doing this, what do we achieve?
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16:14 - 16:16We regenerate this land for agriculture.
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16:16 - 16:20and we also create a extraordinarily
efficient carbon sink -
16:20 - 16:22as the vegetation grown back.
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16:22 - 16:25Not only that: we protect biodiversity.
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16:25 - 16:27We consolidate the water / salt balance
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16:27 - 16:29and reduce heat locally
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16:29 - 16:32as vegetation brings down the temperature
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16:32 - 16:36and re-start all the market,
the business activity, etc. -
16:36 - 16:41In other words, we disrupt
the trigger of fanatism, -
16:41 - 16:46the mechanism that feeds
human trafficking and war. -
16:47 - 16:48You don't believe me?
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16:48 - 16:52This is the real result.
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16:53 - 16:56If we don't do this, what happens?
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16:56 - 16:58We leave these countries
prey to instability, -
16:58 - 17:02so they can no longer cooperate
in the recovery of the climate. -
17:03 - 17:05They are excluded from the communal battle
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17:05 - 17:10to maintain a climate
that is still manageable. -
17:10 - 17:11But leaving them out in the cold,
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17:11 - 17:14none of us will have a manageable climate,
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17:14 - 17:16because these countries contribute
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17:16 - 17:19to manageable sustainably.
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17:19 - 17:21So what happens?
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17:21 - 17:24If we leave them to their own devices,
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17:24 - 17:27we create the future
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17:27 - 17:31that the IPCC and the UN panel
described four days ago: -
17:31 - 17:332040, the catastrophe.
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17:33 - 17:37It's just our own crass,
cynical, selfish interests. -
17:37 - 17:40We must take care
of the weakest and poorest. -
17:40 - 17:41Thank you.
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17:43 - 17:44(Applause)
- Title:
- The right climate to migrate | Grammenos Mastrojeni | TEDxMilano
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Grammenos Mastrojeni tell us how climate change directly impacts people migration, poverty and war, demonstrating that environmental degradation has societal, geo-strategic and economic impacts. We all have to cooperate and be active to solve this global issues - as he said, for our own crass, cynical, immediate interest.
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