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How humans save nature | Michael Shellenberger | TEDxMarthasVineyard

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    Human beings have done amazingly well
    over the last half century.
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    In 1950, there were just
    two and a half billion people on earth,
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    today there's more
    than seven billion of us.
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    The percentage of people living
    in absolute material poverty has declined,
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    from around 85% in the early 1800s,
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    to just around 15% today.
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    Everywhere infant mortality
    has been going down,
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    and almost everywhere
    people are living longer lives.
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    Unfortunately, all of our success
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    has come at a high cost
    to the natural world.
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    The number of wild animals on planet Earth
    has declined by half since 1970.
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    Why do we care about the fate
    of the remaining golden monkeys in Rwanda?
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    After all, we'll also be
    as materially rich if they're gone,
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    and live long lives.
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    I could try to make up a rational reason,
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    but for me, after spending a morning
    with this mother and her baby,
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    and looking at them now,
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    looking at the way the mother
    is looking at her baby, her eyes,
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    the way the baby is looking at the world
    with that curiosity and that excitement,
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    it touches something
    deeper in us than rationality.
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    Couldn't we say the same thing
    about the children of Rwanda?
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    After all, we don't know them,
    we are not Rwandans,
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    but we care deeply about them,
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    and we don't want three billion people
    to continue to rely on wood
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    and to be trapped in poverty.
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    My name is Michael Shellenberger,
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    and I'm president
    of Breakthrough Institute.
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    We're a research organization
    that's committed to a big goal:
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    lift all humans out of poverty,
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    and return more of the Earth
    to wild nature.
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    Over the last few years, we've been
    focused on a particular question:
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    how humans save nature.
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    That may sound like
    a strange thing to look at,
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    given everything I've just mentioned,
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    everything we hear about the environment.
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    You might even wonder,
    "Do humans save nature?"
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    The answer is that we do.
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    What we've discovered
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    is that we do in a way that follows
    what turns out to be a hidden pattern,
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    with specific elements
    that are really true around the world
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    at different moments of time.
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    One of the things we found is
    there's a number of trends
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    that are actually going
    in the right direction on the environment.
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    If we take the right actions today,
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    the overall size of the human population,
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    and our overall negative impact
    on the natural world,
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    could peak and decline
    not by the end of the century,
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    but within a few decades.
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    But, there's a catch,
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    and that's that we will have to confront
    some deep-seated fears
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    that we have about the world,
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    and we will have to confront
    some important misconceptions.
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    To begin, if there's one thing
    I want everybody to remember,
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    only one thing you get out of this talk,
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    it's that humans save nature
    by not using it.
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    And this may sound strange,
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    because it seems like we're always
    using nature in some ways,
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    but what I'm definitely not saying,
    what we've definitely not found
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    is that we save nature
    by using it more sustainably.
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    Our research suggest is we don't save
    nature by using it sustainably,
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    we save nature by not using it.
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    What do I mean? We'll take a closer look.
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    Humans use about half of the Earth,
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    half of the land surface of the Earth,
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    the part of the Earth that's not
    under water or under glaciers.
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    Of that half, about half
    of the human impact is meat,
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    or 24% of the Earth surface,
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    and another 10% is crops,
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    another 9% or so is for wood production
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    - and this is really amazing -
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    just 3% of the Earth's surface
    we use is cities and suburbs,
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    for the place that we live.
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    What's important about that
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    is that now half of all humans,
    three and a half billions of us,
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    live in cities and suburbs,
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    and this will prove to be a crucial part
    of how humans are going to save nature,
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    and how our negative impact
    will peak and decline this century.
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    You can see that it's the part
    of the Earth that we don't use,
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    that we leave to wild nature.
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    So, let's take a closer look.
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    I've mentioned there are three ways
    in which humans save nature.
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    The first is we save it by not needing it.
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    I said before that we
    save nature by not using it,
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    but we only don't use nature
    by not needing it.
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    What do I mean?
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    Many of you know that here in New England,
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    including in New Bedford
    and much of Massachusetts,
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    whaling was a huge industry
    in the early 1800s.
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    Mostly we hunted whales for their oil.
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    We used their oil as energy
    to light up our lamps.
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    Then something happened,
    some of you may know what happened,
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    around the middle of 19 century.
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    This cartoon in Vanity Fair Magazine,
    I think, says better than any.
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    It's a celebration, it's a party.
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    You see the whales are dressed up
    in tuxedo's and ball gowns,
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    and it's in 1861,
    and what the caption says is:
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    "Grand ball given by the whales,
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    in honor of the discovery
    of oil wells in Pennsylvania."
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    We save nature by not using it,
    we save nature by not needing it.
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    We didn't need the whales anymore,
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    we had a better substitute,
    it was kerosene,
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    made from abundant and cheap petroleum.
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    We didn't save the whales
    by using whales more sustainably,
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    we didn't save the whales
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    by having more efficient lighting
    to burn the whale more efficiently:
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    we saved the whales by not hunting them.
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    This is New England in 1880.
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    There was only 30% of it
    forested at that time,
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    most of the rest was farmland.
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    This is New England today, 80% forested.
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    Martha's Vineyard was really
    a large sheep farm in 1900,
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    today it's mostly forested.
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    When you fly over it,
    you can see the beautiful forest.
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    Yesterday I saw a wild osprey,
    several wild osprey.
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    In New England and much of the rich world
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    nature is returning, the forests
    are growing back. Why?
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    These farms mostly went bankrupt,
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    we mostly didn't need them
    for their land anymore,
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    we became more efficient
    at growing more food,
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    we grew more food on less land,
    we saved all of that nature,
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    allowing forests to grow back
    because we didn't need it.
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    Look this amazing photograph of Hong Kong.
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    Look this beautiful green forest
    that surrounds Hong Kong.
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    Hong Kong is only able
    to save that beautiful nature
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    because it doesn't need it
    for growing food
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    or for using it for energy.
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    They've made an incredible city,
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    and people say if you go to the city
    you'll be alienated from nature,
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    but look, they can walk
    into the nature from Hong Kong.
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    Nature is right there,
    they have wonderful access to it.
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    This is an important part
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    of how the human impact on the world
    will peak and decline in a century.
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    More of us are going to move to cities,
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    and we're going to return
    more of the Earth to nature,
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    and wild nature in particular.
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    You may wonder:
    that sounds nice for Hong Kong,
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    but what about poor countries?
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    What about developing countries?
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    What about all the slums?
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    Isn't this really about industrialization,
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    about factories
    where conditions are terrible,
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    and people are treated miserably.
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    That was certainly my view.
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    Twenty years ago,
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    I was involved in efforts to hold Nike
    and other corporations accountable
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    for their labor practices
    in other countries,
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    particularly in Indonesia.
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    It was a successful effort,
    and Nike did make some improvements,
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    but twenty years later
    I wanted to go back,
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    I wanted to see what
    had happened to the workers,
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    had their lives really
    improved materially?
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    I met this young woman,
    her name is Supartie.
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    She is from a rice-growing village
    in the countryside.
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    After high school, she decided she wanted
    to join her aunt in a suburb of Jakarta,
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    and work there in one of the factories.
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    She got a job in a barbie factory,
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    making clothes and cutting the threads
    off the barbies, and it was terrible.
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    She was verbally abused everyday,
    she went home crying every night,
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    and she did something
    extraordinarily brave,
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    and that's that she quit.
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    But she didn't want to go back home,
    she didn't want to be a rice farmer,
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    she wanted a better life
    for herself from the city.
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    She struggled but she found another job,
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    and she found a job
    in a chocolate factory.
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    She's become an extraordinary
    labor activist and woman's right activist,
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    and when I met her, she was
    very positive about her future.
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    She has two cellphones,
    she has a motorcycle,
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    she just bought a house,
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    she makes four times more money
    than the people back in the village,
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    farming rice.
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    She's now saving money
    to send her parents to Mecca,
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    which is a dream of Muslims
    around the world.
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    This is what's happened:
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    since 1960, we're growing much more food
    on much smaller amounts of land,
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    it's one of humankind's
    most extraordinary achievements
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    with great benefits to the natural world.
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    We use half as much the land,
    per person globally, to provide our food.
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    That's only possible, it's only possible
    for Supartie to live in the city,
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    as long as she doesn't need
    to make her own food,
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    and we're making more food
    for more of us.
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    Before he died, Jacques Cousteau
    had a similar vision for the oceans,
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    he knew that a rising human population,
    a rising consumption,
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    would put enormous pressure on wild fish.
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    Wild fish is the last set of wild animals
    that we in the rich world still eat.
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    While fish farming is still early days,
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    it's still a young technology,
    has a long way to go,
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    it's going to be crucial
    to releasing wild fish,
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    and returning more
    of the oceans to wild nature.
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    So the first way we save nature
    is by not needing it.
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    The second way is
    that we have smaller families.
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    I mentioned Supartie,
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    now that she's in a city,
    she wants that life for herself,
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    she wants the freedom,
    she can date who she wants to date now,
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    is able to love who she wants to love,
    marry who she wants to marry.
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    I asked her about her family history.
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    Her grandmother had thirteen children,
    her mother had six, and Supartie said,
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    sometimes she wants to have two kids,
    sometimes she wants to have four,
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    by choice.
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    In the countryside a poor farmer
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    needs a lot of kids
    to help him work on the farm,
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    needs a lot of kids
    to help him in retirement.
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    In the city, you can
    invest more in fewer kids.
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    That trend's consistent around the world
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    as women become more powerful,
    more educated, as they have more income.
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    They're able to do more things
    with their lives,
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    choose to have fewer kids.
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    You can see it right here,
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    even though the overall population
    has grown from two and a half
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    to seven billion
    over the last fifty years,
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    you can see here that we don't know
    what's going to happen next.
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    You see, there's one scenario
    that we keep going up,
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    and another scenario that we go down.
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    What will determine whether we go
    up or whether we go down?
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    These are two different estimates
    by two different leading demographers.
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    The high population estimate,
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    where it would go up to 16 billion or more
    by the end of the century,
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    is a world of low energy,
    wood energy, wood, dung and charcoal,
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    and large families,
    mostly in the countryside.
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    A world where the population
    peeks at eight and half billion
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    and then declines
    by the end of the century,
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    is a world that looks a lot more
    like what Supartie is living in,
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    with higher energy, smaller families,
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    more development, and more opportunity.
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    We save nature by having smaller families,
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    and moving to number three,
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    the third part of the three ways
    in which we save nature,
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    to using more high-tech forms of energy.
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    This is Maiyishia.
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    She is one of the 900 remaining
    mountain gorillas left in the world.
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    As a baby, she grew up
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    in Africa's oldest national park
    in Congo, called Virunga Park.
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    In 2007, her parents
    and much of the rest of her group
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    were killed by men
    making charcoal for energy.
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    Since then, there's been a number of
    well-meaning efforts to plant trees,
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    to help people in the region
    burn wood more efficiently,
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    and the situation has only gotten worse.
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    We visited it in December of last year.
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    This is a picture of the park,
    an areal photo that we took
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    high above the park.
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    You can see here, the fires in the park,
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    here, here, and here,
    illegal charcoal burning in the park.
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    Why?
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    Because people need it,
    they need that nature.
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    Over 90% of the people
    depend on wood for fuel.
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    We didn't save the whales
    by using whales more sustainably,
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    by using whale oil more efficiently,
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    we saved the whales
    by using a different kind of energy,
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    by using a substitute.
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    This is Supartie.
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    Supartie, like young women who move
    to the city everywhere, uses propane,
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    what we use as camping fuel,
    similar to natural gas that we all enjoy;
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    it's an important substitute
    for the two to three billion people
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    that still depend on wood
    and dung as their primary energy now.
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    Propane is a fossil fuel,
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    and that means that as the poorest people
    in the world gain access to modern energy,
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    we're on schedule to have
    a lot of global warming.
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    This is from the Nobel Prize winning
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    United Nations intergovernmental
    panel on climate change.
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    You can see historical emissions,
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    and you can see in the different colors
    various possible futures.
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    You can see there are
    different possible increases.
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    We could go to five degrees
    above pre-industrial temperatures,
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    we could go to one degree
    under pre-industrial temperatures.
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    It depends on choices that we make today.
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    This is Shanghai.
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    As more of us move to the cities,
    we're going to consume more energy.
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    For everybody to live
    at a moderate living standard,
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    a basic material-needs-met,
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    the world is going to need to triple,
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    perhaps quadruple the amount
    of energy produced as from today.
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    If all of that energy is fossil,
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    we're going to see much more
    significant climate change.
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    What are the clean energy options?
    There's not many.
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    There's solar, there's wind,
    there's a little bit of geothermal,
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    there's hydro-electric dams,
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    and there's nuclear power plants.
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    Solar and wind are wonderful;
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    I've spent much of my professional career
    advocating for more solar, for more wind,
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    including the wind farm
    off the coast of Cape Cod.
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    But solar and wind alone
    cannot power Shanghai at night,
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    and there's a lot of exciting
    development in batteries,
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    but we're so far away from being able
    to power cities on batteries.
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    Geothermal is great where it's available,
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    and it's not available in many places.
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    Hydro-electric dams have mostly
    been built in the rich world,
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    we've mostly dammed the rivers,
    and even in places like China,
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    many of the rivers
    have already been dammed.
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    That means we have
    to take a second look at nuclear power.
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    When I was boy, my aunt took me
    every August to Bittersweet Park,
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    where we would remember
    the Hiroshima bombings.
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    We would light candles,
    putting them on paper boats,
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    pushed them into the ponds,
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    and meditate over war
    and morality and responsibility.
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    A few years later I saw a television movie
    about the aftermath of nuclear war,
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    and in high school I saw
    the documentary of Hiroshima,
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    about the horrors of nuclear.
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    I was anti-nuclear my entire life,
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    and then I confronted this data,
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    and the challenge of meeting global
    energy and development needs,
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    and also dealing with one of our
    most serious environmental problems,
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    and I've changed my mind.
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    In that time I've spent a lot of time
    understanding the technology.
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    Fear is a really important emotion
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    it wakes us up to the world,
    it makes us aware of risk,
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    but if we allow fear to drive us,
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    we can end up making up decisions
    that actually put us at greater risk.
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    So it's important to understand
    what the scare is,
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    it's important to understand
    nuclear power.
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    This is a nuclear plant in California.
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    You can see it's a remarkable
    piece of technology,
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    on what is the equivalent
    of about three football fields.
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    Lots of surrounding green nature.
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    It provides power for three million homes.
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    You can see it's built up
    three times higher
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    than the tsunami that affected Fukushima.
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    There's backup water
    in case there is a power outage,
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    they can keep reactors cool,
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    These domes are containment domes,
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    which means that if there's a melt down,
    no radiation will escape.
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    And you can see here all around it,
    natural life, sea life exists,
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    because nuclear power is zero-pollution.
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    One of the things we've learnt
    about energy production is
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    that from the environmental perspective,
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    you want the least natural resource in,
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    the least amount of fuel in,
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    the most amount of energy out,
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    and the least amount
    of pollution and waste.
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    You can't walk alongside a coal plant
    and not be affected by the smoke.
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    You can with nuclear.
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    It's a serious issue
    in terms of pollution,
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    and what nuclear provides
    is reliable power 24 hours a day,
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    7 days a week, to power
    big cities like Shanghai.
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    What about the accidents?
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    We hear so much about the accidents,
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    and we've reviewed
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    all of the peer-reviewed
    scientific literature,
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    independently done,
    and here's what it shows you.
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    The first thing to keep in mind is
    that four million people die every year
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    from diseases related
    to inhaling wood smoke.
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    From three billion people that rely
    on wood as their primary energy,
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    four million die
    from respiratory illnesses.
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    This is a measurement of power plants.
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    Number one, the most dangerous
    form of energy is coal.
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    They look at accidents and air pollution,
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    but the remarkable thing is:
    basically all the death is in blue,
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    you can barely see the green line
    up there, are from air pollution.
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    Petroleum, second best or second worst;
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    natural gas, an improvement; and nuclear.
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    I push the button and it doesn't come up,
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    because the number of deaths
    is too small to register on this chart.
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    The former NASA climate scientist
    James Hansen did a study,
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    using standard public health science,
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    and calculated that 1.7 million lives
    have been saved by nuclear energy.
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    What nuclear does is it leaves
    the fossil energy in the ground.
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    We save nature by not using it,
    by not needing it.
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    With nuclear you don't need fossil.
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    What about the waste?
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    This is the waste
    from Pilgrim Nuclear Plant,
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    which provides 14%
    of Massachusetts' electricity.
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    A lot of people fear this plant,
  • 18:39 - 18:41
    a lot of people fear California's plant.
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    This is the waste,
    it's just sitting there,
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    it's not hurting anybody,
    it's not going anywhere.
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    We have a couple of people watch it.
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    People say: "Well, but that waste is going
    to be around for ten thousand years."
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    If that were true, even if that were true,
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    that small amount of waste would be,
    I would suggest, a small price to pay
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    for universal prosperity
    and returning more of the Earth to nature,
  • 19:06 - 19:09
    not to mention the public health benefits
    of zero-carbon power.
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    But, here's the thing.
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    That waste will not be around
    for tens of thousands of years,
  • 19:13 - 19:16
    it may not be around
    for several more decades.
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    One of the most exciting collaborations
    right now between United States and China
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    is to develop the molten salt reactor,
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    one the first commercial reactors
    that uses that waste as fuel.
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    95% of the energy is still
    in the so-called waste when it comes out,
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    there's no major
    scientific breakthroughs needed,
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    it's going to be a tough
    technological challenge,
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    but it can be achieved.
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    Another team led by Bill Gates,
  • 19:41 - 19:44
    and another team of MIT engineers
    are all working on the same thing.
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    There are actually other groups as well.
  • 19:46 - 19:50
    There is a global competition to create
    the world's first melt-down proof reactor,
  • 19:50 - 19:53
    that also consumes waste as fuel.
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    Let's take a look
    at the environmental impacts.
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    I mentioned that what you get with nuclear
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    is a small amount of fuel going in,
    a lot of energy coming out,
  • 20:01 - 20:04
    a small amount of fuel and zero pollution.
  • 20:04 - 20:09
    This is how much land
    we used for energy in 2010.
  • 20:09 - 20:11
    I mentioned that if we want to achieve
  • 20:11 - 20:15
    universal prosperity,
    universal development by 2050,
  • 20:15 - 20:18
    we need three times,
    maybe four times as much as energy.
  • 20:18 - 20:22
    If it was all from nuclear,
    the energy footprint will actually shrink.
  • 20:22 - 20:24
    If it were all from renewables,
  • 20:24 - 20:27
    it would grow to be the size
    of North America and Alaska.
  • 20:27 - 20:30
    So, let's do solar and wind,
  • 20:30 - 20:32
    but we can't just do solar and wind
  • 20:32 - 20:34
    and return more of the Earth
    to wild nature.
  • 20:34 - 20:36
    How do humans save nature?
  • 20:36 - 20:38
    I mentioned there's a hidden pattern,
  • 20:38 - 20:41
    and it's specific and consistent
    around the world.
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    It consists in moving people
    out of their dependence on wood
  • 20:46 - 20:48
    and agrarian poverty;
  • 20:48 - 20:51
    moving away from large families
    to medium-sized families,
  • 20:51 - 20:54
    choosing to have smaller families;
  • 20:54 - 20:56
    access to the modern energy
    so that the forests are spared,
  • 20:56 - 20:59
    that forests can grow back
    from agriculture;
  • 20:59 - 21:03
    and then you see the final
    and the last important step,
  • 21:03 - 21:08
    moving toward small families, universal
    prosperity, and nuclear energy.
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    What is this a vision of?
  • 21:11 - 21:15
    Today we leave half
    of the Earth for nature.
  • 21:15 - 21:17
    Can we leave 75% for nature?
  • 21:17 - 21:20
    We're going to need more lands for cities,
  • 21:20 - 21:23
    but given current trends,
    we can drastically reduce
  • 21:23 - 21:28
    how much of the Earth we use
    for wood, crops, and meat production.
  • 21:29 - 21:31
    Can we do it? I think we can.
  • 21:31 - 21:34
    Why am I so confident?
    Because we've done it before.
  • 21:34 - 21:36
    Thank you very much.
  • 21:36 - 21:37
    (Applause)
Title:
How humans save nature | Michael Shellenberger | TEDxMarthasVineyard
Description:

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community.

Can humans save nature? In this fascinating look at our relationship with the natural world, author and environmental policy expert Michael Shellenberger argues that a bright future is possible -- if we take the right steps now.

Michael Shellenberger is an American author, environmental policy expert, and the president of Breakthrough Institute. He was named a Time magazine Heroes of the Environment (2008), winner of the 2008 Green Book Award, co-editor of Love Your Monsters (2011) and co-author of Break Through (Houghton Mifflin 2007) and The Death of Environmentalism (2004). He and his co-author Ted Nordhaus have been described as "ecological modernists" and "eco-pragmatists".

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