0:00:11.250,0:00:15.084 Human beings have done amazingly well[br]over the last half century. 0:00:15.476,0:00:19.734 In 1950, there were just[br]two and a half billion people on earth, 0:00:19.735,0:00:22.167 today there's more[br]than seven billion of us. 0:00:22.168,0:00:28.375 The percentage of people living[br]in absolute material poverty has declined, 0:00:28.376,0:00:31.922 from around 85% in the early 1800s, 0:00:31.923,0:00:34.174 to just around 15% today. 0:00:34.504,0:00:36.877 Everywhere infant mortality[br]has been going down, 0:00:36.878,0:00:39.383 and almost everywhere[br]people are living longer lives. 0:00:39.665,0:00:42.995 Unfortunately, all of our success 0:00:42.996,0:00:46.300 has come at a high cost[br]to the natural world. 0:00:46.790,0:00:52.183 The number of wild animals on planet Earth[br]has declined by half since 1970. 0:00:53.943,0:00:59.006 Why do we care about the fate[br]of the remaining golden monkeys in Rwanda? 0:00:59.711,0:01:02.950 After all, we'll also be[br]as materially rich if they're gone, 0:01:02.951,0:01:04.461 and live long lives. 0:01:05.051,0:01:07.801 I could try to make up a rational reason, 0:01:07.802,0:01:11.892 but for me, after spending a morning[br]with this mother and her baby, 0:01:12.446,0:01:13.673 and looking at them now, 0:01:13.674,0:01:16.641 looking at the way the mother[br]is looking at her baby, her eyes, 0:01:16.642,0:01:20.636 the way the baby is looking at the world[br]with that curiosity and that excitement, 0:01:20.637,0:01:23.739 it touches something[br]deeper in us than rationality. 0:01:24.699,0:01:28.372 Couldn't we say the same thing[br]about the children of Rwanda? 0:01:28.373,0:01:31.753 After all, we don't know them,[br]we are not Rwandans, 0:01:32.473,0:01:35.066 but we care deeply about them, 0:01:35.067,0:01:38.891 and we don't want three billion people[br]to continue to rely on wood 0:01:38.892,0:01:41.772 and to be trapped in poverty. 0:01:42.542,0:01:44.168 My name is Michael Shellenberger, 0:01:44.200,0:01:46.264 and I'm president[br]of Breakthrough Institute. 0:01:46.265,0:01:49.972 We're a research organization[br]that's committed to a big goal: 0:01:49.973,0:01:52.199 lift all humans out of poverty, 0:01:52.200,0:01:54.799 and return more of the Earth[br]to wild nature. 0:01:54.800,0:01:58.645 Over the last few years, we've been[br]focused on a particular question: 0:01:59.295,0:02:00.906 how humans save nature. 0:02:01.356,0:02:04.765 That may sound like[br]a strange thing to look at, 0:02:04.766,0:02:06.601 given everything I've just mentioned, 0:02:06.602,0:02:08.572 everything we hear about the environment. 0:02:08.573,0:02:11.072 You might even wonder,[br]"Do humans save nature?" 0:02:11.622,0:02:13.530 The answer is that we do. 0:02:13.531,0:02:15.852 What we've discovered 0:02:15.853,0:02:20.060 is that we do in a way that follows[br]what turns out to be a hidden pattern, 0:02:20.061,0:02:23.759 with specific elements[br]that are really true around the world 0:02:23.760,0:02:25.384 at different moments of time. 0:02:25.815,0:02:28.447 One of the things we found is[br]there's a number of trends 0:02:28.448,0:02:31.573 that are actually going[br]in the right direction on the environment. 0:02:32.053,0:02:34.683 If we take the right actions today, 0:02:34.684,0:02:37.756 the overall size of the human population, 0:02:37.757,0:02:40.381 and our overall negative impact[br]on the natural world, 0:02:40.382,0:02:42.907 could peak and decline[br]not by the end of the century, 0:02:42.908,0:02:44.654 but within a few decades. 0:02:44.655,0:02:47.060 But, there's a catch, 0:02:47.061,0:02:51.112 and that's that we will have to confront[br]some deep-seated fears 0:02:51.113,0:02:53.492 that we have about the world, 0:02:53.493,0:02:56.731 and we will have to confront[br]some important misconceptions. 0:02:57.741,0:03:01.046 To begin, if there's one thing[br]I want everybody to remember, 0:03:01.047,0:03:03.255 only one thing you get out of this talk, 0:03:03.256,0:03:06.470 it's that humans save nature[br]by not using it. 0:03:06.471,0:03:08.133 And this may sound strange, 0:03:08.134,0:03:11.394 because it seems like we're always[br]using nature in some ways, 0:03:11.395,0:03:15.670 but what I'm definitely not saying,[br]what we've definitely not found 0:03:15.671,0:03:18.403 is that we save nature[br]by using it more sustainably. 0:03:18.643,0:03:22.194 Our research suggest is we don't save[br]nature by using it sustainably, 0:03:22.195,0:03:24.020 we save nature by not using it. 0:03:25.117,0:03:27.300 What do I mean? We'll take a closer look. 0:03:27.301,0:03:30.090 Humans use about half of the Earth, 0:03:30.091,0:03:32.474 half of the land surface of the Earth, 0:03:32.475,0:03:35.448 the part of the Earth that's not[br]under water or under glaciers. 0:03:35.449,0:03:40.076 Of that half, about half[br]of the human impact is meat, 0:03:40.077,0:03:42.253 or 24% of the Earth surface, 0:03:42.254,0:03:44.360 and another 10% is crops, 0:03:44.361,0:03:47.556 another 9% or so is for wood production 0:03:47.557,0:03:49.829 - and this is really amazing - 0:03:49.830,0:03:54.097 just 3% of the Earth's surface[br]we use is cities and suburbs, 0:03:54.098,0:03:55.644 for the place that we live. 0:03:55.894,0:03:57.197 What's important about that 0:03:57.207,0:04:00.240 is that now half of all humans,[br]three and a half billions of us, 0:04:00.241,0:04:01.710 live in cities and suburbs, 0:04:01.711,0:04:06.058 and this will prove to be a crucial part[br]of how humans are going to save nature, 0:04:06.059,0:04:09.304 and how our negative impact[br]will peak and decline this century. 0:04:10.013,0:04:13.656 You can see that it's the part[br]of the Earth that we don't use, 0:04:14.413,0:04:15.914 that we leave to wild nature. 0:04:16.708,0:04:18.096 So, let's take a closer look. 0:04:18.096,0:04:21.112 I've mentioned there are three ways[br]in which humans save nature. 0:04:21.113,0:04:23.949 The first is we save it by not needing it. 0:04:23.950,0:04:26.999 I said before that we[br]save nature by not using it, 0:04:27.000,0:04:30.955 but we only don't use nature[br]by not needing it. 0:04:30.956,0:04:31.830 What do I mean? 0:04:31.831,0:04:34.509 Many of you know that here in New England, 0:04:34.510,0:04:37.168 including in New Bedford[br]and much of Massachusetts, 0:04:37.196,0:04:41.024 whaling was a huge industry[br]in the early 1800s. 0:04:41.474,0:04:44.360 Mostly we hunted whales for their oil. 0:04:44.361,0:04:49.216 We used their oil as energy[br]to light up our lamps. 0:04:49.217,0:04:52.146 Then something happened,[br]some of you may know what happened, 0:04:52.147,0:04:53.696 around the middle of 19 century. 0:04:53.697,0:04:58.775 This cartoon in Vanity Fair Magazine,[br]I think, says better than any. 0:04:58.781,0:05:00.742 It's a celebration, it's a party. 0:05:00.743,0:05:03.880 You see the whales are dressed up[br]in tuxedo's and ball gowns, 0:05:05.324,0:05:08.306 and it's in 1861,[br]and what the caption says is: 0:05:09.026,0:05:11.341 "Grand ball given by the whales, 0:05:11.342,0:05:14.713 in honor of the discovery[br]of oil wells in Pennsylvania." 0:05:15.543,0:05:19.037 We save nature by not using it,[br]we save nature by not needing it. 0:05:19.271,0:05:21.420 We didn't need the whales anymore, 0:05:21.421,0:05:23.864 we had a better substitute,[br]it was kerosene, 0:05:23.865,0:05:27.357 made from abundant and cheap petroleum. 0:05:27.697,0:05:31.415 We didn't save the whales[br]by using whales more sustainably, 0:05:31.416,0:05:33.009 we didn't save the whales 0:05:33.010,0:05:36.761 by having more efficient lighting[br]to burn the whale more efficiently: 0:05:36.762,0:05:39.775 we saved the whales by not hunting them. 0:05:40.425,0:05:42.475 This is New England in 1880. 0:05:42.476,0:05:47.091 There was only 30% of it[br]forested at that time, 0:05:47.092,0:05:49.413 most of the rest was farmland. 0:05:49.414,0:05:52.647 This is New England today, 80% forested. 0:05:52.648,0:05:58.100 Martha's Vineyard was really[br]a large sheep farm in 1900, 0:05:58.101,0:06:00.761 today it's mostly forested. 0:06:00.762,0:06:03.475 When you fly over it,[br]you can see the beautiful forest. 0:06:03.476,0:06:06.581 Yesterday I saw a wild osprey,[br]several wild osprey. 0:06:06.911,0:06:10.221 In New England and much of the rich world 0:06:10.222,0:06:13.524 nature is returning, the forests[br]are growing back. Why? 0:06:13.525,0:06:17.113 These farms mostly went bankrupt, 0:06:17.114,0:06:19.459 we mostly didn't need them[br]for their land anymore, 0:06:19.460,0:06:21.614 we became more efficient[br]at growing more food, 0:06:21.615,0:06:25.120 we grew more food on less land,[br]we saved all of that nature, 0:06:25.121,0:06:28.065 allowing forests to grow back[br]because we didn't need it. 0:06:28.985,0:06:31.483 Look this amazing photograph of Hong Kong. 0:06:31.883,0:06:35.157 Look this beautiful green forest[br]that surrounds Hong Kong. 0:06:36.128,0:06:39.553 Hong Kong is only able[br]to save that beautiful nature 0:06:39.554,0:06:41.843 because it doesn't need it[br]for growing food 0:06:41.844,0:06:44.103 or for using it for energy. 0:06:44.104,0:06:45.882 They've made an incredible city, 0:06:45.883,0:06:49.211 and people say if you go to the city[br]you'll be alienated from nature, 0:06:49.212,0:06:51.811 but look, they can walk[br]into the nature from Hong Kong. 0:06:51.812,0:06:55.259 Nature is right there,[br]they have wonderful access to it. 0:06:55.260,0:06:57.399 This is an important part 0:06:57.400,0:07:00.890 of how the human impact on the world[br]will peak and decline in a century. 0:07:00.891,0:07:03.623 More of us are going to move to cities, 0:07:03.624,0:07:06.995 and we're going to return[br]more of the Earth to nature, 0:07:06.996,0:07:09.452 and wild nature in particular. 0:07:09.842,0:07:13.372 You may wonder:[br]that sounds nice for Hong Kong, 0:07:13.373,0:07:14.897 but what about poor countries? 0:07:14.898,0:07:16.472 What about developing countries? 0:07:16.473,0:07:18.101 What about all the slums? 0:07:18.102,0:07:20.405 Isn't this really about industrialization, 0:07:20.406,0:07:22.560 about factories[br]where conditions are terrible, 0:07:22.561,0:07:24.866 and people are treated miserably. 0:07:24.867,0:07:26.664 That was certainly my view. 0:07:26.665,0:07:27.569 Twenty years ago, 0:07:27.570,0:07:31.231 I was involved in efforts to hold Nike[br]and other corporations accountable 0:07:31.232,0:07:33.936 for their labor practices[br]in other countries, 0:07:33.937,0:07:36.007 particularly in Indonesia. 0:07:37.237,0:07:41.051 It was a successful effort,[br]and Nike did make some improvements, 0:07:41.052,0:07:43.062 but twenty years later[br]I wanted to go back, 0:07:43.063,0:07:45.393 I wanted to see what[br]had happened to the workers, 0:07:45.394,0:07:47.840 had their lives really[br]improved materially? 0:07:47.841,0:07:50.251 I met this young woman,[br]her name is Supartie. 0:07:50.274,0:07:53.679 She is from a rice-growing village[br]in the countryside. 0:07:53.680,0:07:58.741 After high school, she decided she wanted[br]to join her aunt in a suburb of Jakarta, 0:07:58.742,0:08:01.064 and work there in one of the factories. 0:08:01.065,0:08:03.071 She got a job in a barbie factory, 0:08:03.072,0:08:07.124 making clothes and cutting the threads[br]off the barbies, and it was terrible. 0:08:07.125,0:08:12.749 She was verbally abused everyday,[br]she went home crying every night, 0:08:12.750,0:08:15.691 and she did something[br]extraordinarily brave, 0:08:15.692,0:08:17.491 and that's that she quit. 0:08:17.492,0:08:20.937 But she didn't want to go back home,[br]she didn't want to be a rice farmer, 0:08:20.938,0:08:23.331 she wanted a better life[br]for herself from the city. 0:08:24.673,0:08:26.983 She struggled but she found another job, 0:08:26.984,0:08:29.636 and she found a job[br]in a chocolate factory. 0:08:29.637,0:08:34.340 She's become an extraordinary[br]labor activist and woman's right activist, 0:08:34.341,0:08:38.919 and when I met her, she was[br]very positive about her future. 0:08:38.921,0:08:41.102 She has two cellphones,[br]she has a motorcycle, 0:08:41.102,0:08:43.341 she just bought a house, 0:08:43.342,0:08:47.212 she makes four times more money[br]than the people back in the village, 0:08:47.213,0:08:48.713 farming rice. 0:08:49.323,0:08:51.986 She's now saving money[br]to send her parents to Mecca, 0:08:51.987,0:08:55.235 which is a dream of Muslims[br]around the world. 0:08:56.755,0:08:58.116 This is what's happened: 0:08:58.117,0:09:03.185 since 1960, we're growing much more food[br]on much smaller amounts of land, 0:09:03.186,0:09:05.850 it's one of humankind's[br]most extraordinary achievements 0:09:05.851,0:09:08.482 with great benefits to the natural world. 0:09:08.483,0:09:13.575 We use half as much the land,[br]per person globally, to provide our food. 0:09:14.175,0:09:19.010 That's only possible, it's only possible[br]for Supartie to live in the city, 0:09:19.011,0:09:21.308 as long as she doesn't need[br]to make her own food, 0:09:21.309,0:09:23.283 and we're making more food[br]for more of us. 0:09:23.284,0:09:27.230 Before he died, Jacques Cousteau[br]had a similar vision for the oceans, 0:09:27.231,0:09:30.386 he knew that a rising human population,[br]a rising consumption, 0:09:30.387,0:09:33.441 would put enormous pressure on wild fish. 0:09:33.442,0:09:38.395 Wild fish is the last set of wild animals[br]that we in the rich world still eat. 0:09:39.025,0:09:42.133 While fish farming is still early days, 0:09:42.134,0:09:44.956 it's still a young technology,[br]has a long way to go, 0:09:44.957,0:09:48.894 it's going to be crucial[br]to releasing wild fish, 0:09:48.895,0:09:51.711 and returning more[br]of the oceans to wild nature. 0:09:51.712,0:09:54.255 So the first way we save nature[br]is by not needing it. 0:09:54.256,0:09:56.779 The second way is[br]that we have smaller families. 0:09:56.780,0:09:58.354 I mentioned Supartie, 0:09:58.355,0:10:01.176 now that she's in a city,[br]she wants that life for herself, 0:10:01.177,0:10:04.152 she wants the freedom,[br]she can date who she wants to date now, 0:10:04.153,0:10:07.421 is able to love who she wants to love,[br]marry who she wants to marry. 0:10:07.422,0:10:10.162 I asked her about her family history. 0:10:10.163,0:10:14.679 Her grandmother had thirteen children,[br]her mother had six, and Supartie said, 0:10:14.680,0:10:18.036 sometimes she wants to have two kids,[br]sometimes she wants to have four, 0:10:18.037,0:10:18.962 by choice. 0:10:18.963,0:10:21.016 In the countryside a poor farmer 0:10:21.017,0:10:23.415 needs a lot of kids[br]to help him work on the farm, 0:10:23.416,0:10:25.700 needs a lot of kids[br]to help him in retirement. 0:10:25.701,0:10:28.730 In the city, you can[br]invest more in fewer kids. 0:10:28.731,0:10:31.230 That trend's consistent around the world 0:10:31.231,0:10:35.093 as women become more powerful,[br]more educated, as they have more income. 0:10:35.094,0:10:38.385 They're able to do more things[br]with their lives, 0:10:38.386,0:10:40.771 choose to have fewer kids. 0:10:40.772,0:10:42.687 You can see it right here, 0:10:42.688,0:10:45.703 even though the overall population[br]has grown from two and a half 0:10:45.704,0:10:49.044 to seven billion[br]over the last fifty years, 0:10:49.045,0:10:53.643 you can see here that we don't know[br]what's going to happen next. 0:10:53.644,0:10:56.462 You see, there's one scenario[br]that we keep going up, 0:10:56.463,0:10:58.284 and another scenario that we go down. 0:10:58.285,0:11:02.212 What will determine whether we go[br]up or whether we go down? 0:11:02.213,0:11:06.235 These are two different estimates[br]by two different leading demographers. 0:11:06.236,0:11:07.880 The high population estimate, 0:11:07.881,0:11:11.388 where it would go up to 16 billion or more[br]by the end of the century, 0:11:11.389,0:11:16.500 is a world of low energy,[br]wood energy, wood, dung and charcoal, 0:11:16.510,0:11:19.281 and large families,[br]mostly in the countryside. 0:11:19.282,0:11:22.160 A world where the population[br]peeks at eight and half billion 0:11:22.161,0:11:24.625 and then declines[br]by the end of the century, 0:11:24.626,0:11:27.822 is a world that looks a lot more[br]like what Supartie is living in, 0:11:27.823,0:11:30.704 with higher energy, smaller families, 0:11:30.705,0:11:33.040 more development, and more opportunity. 0:11:33.041,0:11:35.601 We save nature by having smaller families, 0:11:35.602,0:11:37.122 and moving to number three, 0:11:37.123,0:11:39.803 the third part of the three ways[br]in which we save nature, 0:11:39.804,0:11:42.398 to using more high-tech forms of energy. 0:11:43.334,0:11:45.042 This is Maiyishia. 0:11:45.043,0:11:49.880 She is one of the 900 remaining[br]mountain gorillas left in the world. 0:11:49.881,0:11:51.583 As a baby, she grew up 0:11:51.584,0:11:56.460 in Africa's oldest national park[br]in Congo, called Virunga Park. 0:11:56.473,0:12:01.366 In 2007, her parents[br]and much of the rest of her group 0:12:01.367,0:12:05.659 were killed by men[br]making charcoal for energy. 0:12:05.660,0:12:12.357 Since then, there's been a number of[br]well-meaning efforts to plant trees, 0:12:12.367,0:12:16.403 to help people in the region[br]burn wood more efficiently, 0:12:16.404,0:12:19.240 and the situation has only gotten worse. 0:12:19.241,0:12:21.623 We visited it in December of last year. 0:12:21.624,0:12:24.493 This is a picture of the park,[br]an areal photo that we took 0:12:24.494,0:12:25.565 high above the park. 0:12:25.566,0:12:29.466 You can see here, the fires in the park, 0:12:29.467,0:12:34.291 here, here, and here,[br]illegal charcoal burning in the park. 0:12:34.292,0:12:35.071 Why? 0:12:35.072,0:12:37.710 Because people need it,[br]they need that nature. 0:12:37.711,0:12:40.946 Over 90% of the people[br]depend on wood for fuel. 0:12:41.996,0:12:45.066 We didn't save the whales[br]by using whales more sustainably, 0:12:45.067,0:12:47.442 by using whale oil more efficiently, 0:12:47.443,0:12:51.763 we saved the whales[br]by using a different kind of energy, 0:12:51.764,0:12:53.149 by using a substitute. 0:12:53.150,0:12:54.730 This is Supartie. 0:12:54.731,0:12:59.350 Supartie, like young women who move[br]to the city everywhere, uses propane, 0:12:59.351,0:13:02.813 what we use as camping fuel,[br]similar to natural gas that we all enjoy; 0:13:02.814,0:13:06.359 it's an important substitute[br]for the two to three billion people 0:13:06.360,0:13:09.961 that still depend on wood[br]and dung as their primary energy now. 0:13:10.681,0:13:14.309 Propane is a fossil fuel, 0:13:14.310,0:13:19.708 and that means that as the poorest people[br]in the world gain access to modern energy, 0:13:19.709,0:13:23.345 we're on schedule to have[br]a lot of global warming. 0:13:23.346,0:13:25.241 This is from the Nobel Prize winning 0:13:25.242,0:13:27.931 United Nations intergovernmental[br]panel on climate change. 0:13:27.932,0:13:29.903 You can see historical emissions, 0:13:29.904,0:13:35.306 and you can see in the different colors[br]various possible futures. 0:13:35.856,0:13:38.554 You can see there are[br]different possible increases. 0:13:38.555,0:13:41.584 We could go to five degrees[br]above pre-industrial temperatures, 0:13:41.585,0:13:44.425 we could go to one degree[br]under pre-industrial temperatures. 0:13:44.426,0:13:46.820 It depends on choices that we make today. 0:13:47.270,0:13:49.076 This is Shanghai. 0:13:49.496,0:13:53.354 As more of us move to the cities,[br]we're going to consume more energy. 0:13:53.355,0:13:57.519 For everybody to live[br]at a moderate living standard, 0:13:57.520,0:13:59.276 a basic material-needs-met, 0:13:59.277,0:14:01.535 the world is going to need to triple, 0:14:01.536,0:14:04.463 perhaps quadruple the amount[br]of energy produced as from today. 0:14:04.464,0:14:06.651 If all of that energy is fossil, 0:14:06.652,0:14:09.562 we're going to see much more[br]significant climate change. 0:14:09.563,0:14:13.164 What are the clean energy options?[br]There's not many. 0:14:13.165,0:14:17.701 There's solar, there's wind,[br]there's a little bit of geothermal, 0:14:17.702,0:14:20.054 there's hydro-electric dams, 0:14:20.055,0:14:22.222 and there's nuclear power plants. 0:14:23.282,0:14:25.192 Solar and wind are wonderful; 0:14:25.193,0:14:29.821 I've spent much of my professional career[br]advocating for more solar, for more wind, 0:14:29.822,0:14:32.883 including the wind farm[br]off the coast of Cape Cod. 0:14:33.513,0:14:37.044 But solar and wind alone[br]cannot power Shanghai at night, 0:14:37.045,0:14:39.674 and there's a lot of exciting[br]development in batteries, 0:14:39.675,0:14:43.487 but we're so far away from being able[br]to power cities on batteries. 0:14:44.957,0:14:47.406 Geothermal is great where it's available, 0:14:47.407,0:14:49.425 and it's not available in many places. 0:14:49.426,0:14:53.561 Hydro-electric dams have mostly[br]been built in the rich world, 0:14:53.562,0:14:56.481 we've mostly dammed the rivers,[br]and even in places like China, 0:14:56.482,0:14:58.554 many of the rivers[br]have already been dammed. 0:14:59.323,0:15:02.415 That means we have[br]to take a second look at nuclear power. 0:15:02.416,0:15:07.421 When I was boy, my aunt took me[br]every August to Bittersweet Park, 0:15:07.422,0:15:10.556 where we would remember[br]the Hiroshima bombings. 0:15:10.557,0:15:13.027 We would light candles,[br]putting them on paper boats, 0:15:13.028,0:15:14.492 pushed them into the ponds, 0:15:14.493,0:15:19.320 and meditate over war[br]and morality and responsibility. 0:15:19.321,0:15:25.002 A few years later I saw a television movie[br]about the aftermath of nuclear war, 0:15:25.012,0:15:27.639 and in high school I saw[br]the documentary of Hiroshima, 0:15:27.640,0:15:29.579 about the horrors of nuclear. 0:15:29.580,0:15:33.500 I was anti-nuclear my entire life, 0:15:33.501,0:15:35.993 and then I confronted this data, 0:15:35.994,0:15:39.557 and the challenge of meeting global[br]energy and development needs, 0:15:39.558,0:15:43.200 and also dealing with one of our[br]most serious environmental problems, 0:15:43.201,0:15:45.066 and I've changed my mind. 0:15:45.636,0:15:49.430 In that time I've spent a lot of time[br]understanding the technology. 0:15:49.431,0:15:51.399 Fear is a really important emotion 0:15:51.400,0:15:54.431 it wakes us up to the world,[br]it makes us aware of risk, 0:15:54.432,0:15:56.782 but if we allow fear to drive us, 0:15:56.783,0:16:00.286 we can end up making up decisions[br]that actually put us at greater risk. 0:16:00.612,0:16:03.432 So it's important to understand[br]what the scare is, 0:16:03.433,0:16:05.443 it's important to understand[br]nuclear power. 0:16:05.444,0:16:07.486 This is a nuclear plant in California. 0:16:08.281,0:16:11.793 You can see it's a remarkable[br]piece of technology, 0:16:11.794,0:16:15.133 on what is the equivalent[br]of about three football fields. 0:16:15.620,0:16:18.219 Lots of surrounding green nature. 0:16:18.220,0:16:20.533 It provides power for three million homes. 0:16:20.534,0:16:23.066 You can see it's built up[br]three times higher 0:16:23.083,0:16:25.657 than the tsunami that affected Fukushima. 0:16:25.658,0:16:28.511 There's backup water[br]in case there is a power outage, 0:16:28.512,0:16:30.532 they can keep reactors cool, 0:16:30.533,0:16:32.636 These domes are containment domes, 0:16:32.637,0:16:36.601 which means that if there's a melt down,[br]no radiation will escape. 0:16:36.602,0:16:41.414 And you can see here all around it,[br]natural life, sea life exists, 0:16:41.415,0:16:44.515 because nuclear power is zero-pollution. 0:16:44.885,0:16:47.710 One of the things we've learnt[br]about energy production is 0:16:47.711,0:16:49.857 that from the environmental perspective, 0:16:49.858,0:16:52.083 you want the least natural resource in, 0:16:52.084,0:16:54.170 the least amount of fuel in, 0:16:54.171,0:16:56.433 the most amount of energy out, 0:16:56.434,0:16:59.310 and the least amount[br]of pollution and waste. 0:17:00.750,0:17:07.632 You can't walk alongside a coal plant[br]and not be affected by the smoke. 0:17:07.633,0:17:09.821 You can with nuclear. 0:17:09.823,0:17:12.992 It's a serious issue[br]in terms of pollution, 0:17:12.992,0:17:17.304 and what nuclear provides[br]is reliable power 24 hours a day, 0:17:17.305,0:17:20.664 7 days a week, to power[br]big cities like Shanghai. 0:17:20.665,0:17:21.923 What about the accidents? 0:17:21.924,0:17:24.291 We hear so much about the accidents, 0:17:24.292,0:17:25.462 and we've reviewed 0:17:25.462,0:17:28.271 all of the peer-reviewed [br]scientific literature, 0:17:28.271,0:17:31.616 independently done,[br]and here's what it shows you. 0:17:31.617,0:17:35.885 The first thing to keep in mind is[br]that four million people die every year 0:17:35.886,0:17:38.688 from diseases related[br]to inhaling wood smoke. 0:17:38.689,0:17:41.895 From three billion people that rely[br]on wood as their primary energy, 0:17:41.896,0:17:44.120 four million die[br]from respiratory illnesses. 0:17:44.121,0:17:46.830 This is a measurement of power plants. 0:17:46.831,0:17:50.091 Number one, the most dangerous[br]form of energy is coal. 0:17:50.092,0:17:52.320 They look at accidents and air pollution, 0:17:52.321,0:17:55.644 but the remarkable thing is:[br]basically all the death is in blue, 0:17:55.645,0:17:59.156 you can barely see the green line[br]up there, are from air pollution. 0:17:59.256,0:18:02.990 Petroleum, second best or second worst; 0:18:02.991,0:18:05.203 natural gas, an improvement; and nuclear. 0:18:05.204,0:18:07.232 I push the button and it doesn't come up, 0:18:07.233,0:18:10.744 because the number of deaths[br]is too small to register on this chart. 0:18:11.294,0:18:15.502 The former NASA climate scientist[br]James Hansen did a study, 0:18:15.503,0:18:17.677 using standard public health science, 0:18:17.678,0:18:22.116 and calculated that 1.7 million lives[br]have been saved by nuclear energy. 0:18:22.117,0:18:26.232 What nuclear does is it leaves[br]the fossil energy in the ground. 0:18:26.233,0:18:29.022 We save nature by not using it,[br]by not needing it. 0:18:29.023,0:18:30.719 With nuclear you don't need fossil. 0:18:30.720,0:18:31.936 What about the waste? 0:18:31.937,0:18:34.498 This is the waste[br]from Pilgrim Nuclear Plant, 0:18:34.499,0:18:37.815 which provides 14% [br]of Massachusetts' electricity. 0:18:37.816,0:18:39.350 A lot of people fear this plant, 0:18:39.351,0:18:41.275 a lot of people fear California's plant. 0:18:41.276,0:18:44.200 This is the waste,[br]it's just sitting there, 0:18:44.201,0:18:47.300 it's not hurting anybody,[br]it's not going anywhere. 0:18:47.301,0:18:49.431 We have a couple of people watch it. 0:18:49.432,0:18:53.353 People say: "Well, but that waste is going[br]to be around for ten thousand years." 0:18:53.354,0:18:56.176 If that were true, even if that were true, 0:18:56.177,0:19:01.290 that small amount of waste would be,[br]I would suggest, a small price to pay 0:19:01.291,0:19:05.646 for universal prosperity[br]and returning more of the Earth to nature, 0:19:05.647,0:19:08.809 not to mention the public health benefits[br]of zero-carbon power. 0:19:08.810,0:19:10.379 But, here's the thing. 0:19:10.380,0:19:13.251 That waste will not be around[br]for tens of thousands of years, 0:19:13.252,0:19:16.281 it may not be around[br]for several more decades. 0:19:16.292,0:19:20.168 One of the most exciting collaborations[br]right now between United States and China 0:19:20.169,0:19:23.076 is to develop the molten salt reactor, 0:19:23.077,0:19:27.757 one the first commercial reactors[br]that uses that waste as fuel. 0:19:27.758,0:19:32.400 95% of the energy is still[br]in the so-called waste when it comes out, 0:19:32.401,0:19:34.698 there's no major[br]scientific breakthroughs needed, 0:19:34.699,0:19:36.996 it's going to be a tough[br]technological challenge, 0:19:36.997,0:19:38.751 but it can be achieved. 0:19:38.752,0:19:41.235 Another team led by Bill Gates, 0:19:41.236,0:19:44.442 and another team of MIT engineers[br]are all working on the same thing. 0:19:44.443,0:19:46.357 There are actually other groups as well. 0:19:46.358,0:19:50.351 There is a global competition to create[br]the world's first melt-down proof reactor, 0:19:50.352,0:19:53.222 that also consumes waste as fuel. 0:19:53.520,0:19:55.721 Let's take a look[br]at the environmental impacts. 0:19:55.722,0:19:57.763 I mentioned that what you get with nuclear 0:19:57.764,0:20:01.179 is a small amount of fuel going in,[br]a lot of energy coming out, 0:20:01.180,0:20:03.625 a small amount of fuel and zero pollution. 0:20:03.626,0:20:09.024 This is how much land[br]we used for energy in 2010. 0:20:09.025,0:20:11.466 I mentioned that if we want to achieve 0:20:11.467,0:20:15.424 universal prosperity,[br]universal development by 2050, 0:20:15.425,0:20:18.057 we need three times,[br]maybe four times as much as energy. 0:20:18.058,0:20:21.775 If it was all from nuclear,[br]the energy footprint will actually shrink. 0:20:21.776,0:20:23.830 If it were all from renewables, 0:20:23.831,0:20:27.269 it would grow to be the size[br]of North America and Alaska. 0:20:27.270,0:20:29.610 So, let's do solar and wind, 0:20:29.611,0:20:31.839 but we can't just do solar and wind 0:20:31.840,0:20:34.073 and return more of the Earth[br]to wild nature. 0:20:34.343,0:20:36.176 How do humans save nature? 0:20:36.177,0:20:37.961 I mentioned there's a hidden pattern, 0:20:37.962,0:20:40.923 and it's specific and consistent[br]around the world. 0:20:40.924,0:20:45.524 It consists in moving people[br]out of their dependence on wood 0:20:45.525,0:20:47.860 and agrarian poverty; 0:20:47.861,0:20:51.243 moving away from large families[br]to medium-sized families, 0:20:51.244,0:20:53.641 choosing to have smaller families; 0:20:53.642,0:20:56.419 access to the modern energy[br]so that the forests are spared, 0:20:56.420,0:20:59.411 that forests can grow back[br]from agriculture; 0:20:59.412,0:21:02.910 and then you see the final[br]and the last important step, 0:21:02.911,0:21:08.401 moving toward small families, universal[br]prosperity, and nuclear energy. 0:21:09.591,0:21:11.180 What is this a vision of? 0:21:11.181,0:21:14.603 Today we leave half[br]of the Earth for nature. 0:21:14.604,0:21:17.073 Can we leave 75% for nature? 0:21:17.074,0:21:19.512 We're going to need more lands for cities, 0:21:19.513,0:21:22.861 but given current trends,[br]we can drastically reduce 0:21:22.862,0:21:27.813 how much of the Earth we use[br]for wood, crops, and meat production. 0:21:28.543,0:21:30.996 Can we do it? I think we can. 0:21:30.997,0:21:34.206 Why am I so confident?[br]Because we've done it before. 0:21:34.207,0:21:35.831 Thank you very much. 0:21:35.831,0:21:37.369 (Applause)