If our oceans die, we die | Captain Paul Watson | TEDxNoosa
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0:01 - 0:04Host: It's 7:45 a.m. over in Paris.
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0:04 - 0:08I'd like to give a very warm welcome
to Captain Paul Watson. -
0:08 - 0:11(Applause)
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0:16 - 0:17[Paul Watson - Sea Shepherd Captain]
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0:17 - 0:19Paul Watson: Okay, thank you.
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0:19 - 0:22I'm here in Paris,
where at the end of this year -
0:22 - 0:25we're going to have yet
another international conference -
0:25 - 0:29on addressing the threats
to our environment. -
0:29 - 0:32I attended the United Nations Conference
on the Environment in 1972, -
0:32 - 0:36and again I attended it
in 1992, in Brazil, -
0:36 - 0:38the first one being in Sweden.
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0:38 - 0:43And not a single, you know,
suggestion, proposal, plan -
0:43 - 0:47of any of those conferences
was ever carried out. -
0:47 - 0:50So will this just be another get-together
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0:50 - 0:54for international leaders
to, you know, have some expensive dinners -
0:54 - 0:55and photo ops
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0:55 - 0:58or will they actually
address some of the issues? -
0:58 - 1:01The problem is,
when governments get together, -
1:01 - 1:04they don't really address the solutions.
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1:04 - 1:08Usually come down to:
Can we tax anybody over this? -
1:08 - 1:10You know, the carbon taxes or whatever.
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1:10 - 1:12But there are real solutions,
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1:12 - 1:17and the problem is is that people -
they want to see change, -
1:17 - 1:20but they don't really want to change.
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1:20 - 1:23And what we have to address here
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1:23 - 1:26is the problem of what
we're doing to our oceans. -
1:27 - 1:31The ocean is the life support
system for this planet. -
1:32 - 1:34It provides food, it provides oxygen -
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1:34 - 1:39about up to 80% of the oxygen
is supplied by phytoplankton in the sea. -
1:39 - 1:42It regulates temperature, storms.
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1:42 - 1:44It is the life support system.
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1:44 - 1:49And on Space Ship Earth
that life support system is run by a crew. -
1:49 - 1:51And we're not crew,
we're just simply passengers. -
1:51 - 1:53We're having a great time
amusing ourselves. -
1:53 - 1:56But the crew, well, we're killing them.
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1:56 - 2:00Everything from the bacteria
through to the plankton to the fish -
2:00 - 2:02to the great whales to the trees,
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2:02 - 2:03we're killing them.
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2:03 - 2:07And there's only so many
crew members you can kill -
2:07 - 2:10before the machinery begins to collapse.
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2:10 - 2:13And that's where our future
is heading right now, -
2:13 - 2:16a collapsing life support system.
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2:16 - 2:20One of the things that I want to bring
to this conference here in Paris -
2:20 - 2:26is the need to replenish
diversity in our oceans. -
2:26 - 2:31Industrial fishing fleets have destroyed
90% of the fishes over the last 16 years. -
2:32 - 2:35The whaling industry has devastated
entire whaling populations, -
2:35 - 2:38driven many of them
to the brink of extinction. -
2:39 - 2:43And these are the species
that keep everything running in the sea. -
2:43 - 2:45For example, a blue whale.
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2:45 - 2:50One blue whale, every day,
defecates three tons into the sea. -
2:50 - 2:54Three tons of iron-,
nitrogen-rich fertilizer, -
2:54 - 2:58and that of course provides nutrients
for the phytoplankton, -
2:58 - 3:00which in turns provides food
to the zooplankton, -
3:00 - 3:05which provides food to the fish
and ultimately, again, to the whales. -
3:05 - 3:12Since 1950 we've seen a 30 to 40% decline
in phytoplankton populations in the ocean. -
3:12 - 3:13And I think a lot of that has to do
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3:13 - 3:17with the fact that we've diminished
the whale population so much. -
3:17 - 3:20We killed 300,000 blue whales
in the twentieth century. -
3:20 - 3:25That's an incredible amount
of iron- and nitrogen-rich fertilizer -
3:25 - 3:28that has been taken away from the sea.
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3:28 - 3:31We humans, we take fish from the sea
and put nothing back. -
3:31 - 3:36We have actually no long history
of being part of that ecosystem. -
3:36 - 3:38And so we've been
rather destructive about it. -
3:38 - 3:40Fishermen will say, "Well, you know,
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3:40 - 3:46we need to get rid of the seals
and the dolphins and the seabirds -
3:46 - 3:49because they're eating all our fish,"
like we own those fish. -
3:49 - 3:51But the fact is is if you want more fish,
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3:51 - 3:55you need more seals, you need
more dolphins, you need more whales. -
3:55 - 3:58It's a cycle that's worked perfectly
for millions of years, -
3:58 - 4:01and we have destroyed that cycle.
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4:02 - 4:04You know, 300 years ago
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4:04 - 4:06there was no shortage
of fish in the oceans. -
4:06 - 4:11When Jacques Cartier set out
from France to Canada in 1534, -
4:11 - 4:15there were some 45 millions seals
in the North Atlantic, -
4:15 - 4:18including species that are now extinct.
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4:18 - 4:20There were animals like the sea mink,
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4:20 - 4:21the atlantic gray whale
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4:21 - 4:23and the giant auk,
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4:23 - 4:26and once we were even walrus
in the North Atlantic - all gone. -
4:26 - 4:29We used to have beluga whales
in Long Island Sound off of New York - -
4:29 - 4:30all gone.
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4:30 - 4:33The tragedy is is that not only
have we destroyed them, -
4:33 - 4:36we've actually forgotten
that they've ever existed, -
4:36 - 4:40and that diminishment has been ongoing.
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4:40 - 4:43I was raised in a fishing village
in Eastern Canada. -
4:43 - 4:45I've seen that
diminishment in the seas. -
4:45 - 4:47If we can replenish our ocean,
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4:47 - 4:52and that means a total ban
on industrialized fishing operations - -
4:52 - 4:56long lines, trawlers, seiners -
we have to get rid of them. -
4:56 - 4:59If there's going to be any fishing,
it has to be artisanal only, -
4:59 - 5:00local fishermen.
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5:00 - 5:03You know, we always talk about the jobs,
the jobs that are at the sea. -
5:03 - 5:06We don't talk about the people
who really lose their jobs: -
5:06 - 5:08a million Indian fishermen put out of work
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5:08 - 5:11because of the Norwegian
dragger fleets going down their coast; -
5:11 - 5:15Somali pirates driven to desperation
because the real pirates, -
5:15 - 5:17the European and the Asian fishing fleets
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5:17 - 5:20came in and took everything
out of their waters. -
5:20 - 5:23Within 10 years' time we're going
to have the pirates of Mauritania, -
5:23 - 5:24the pirates of Senegal.
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5:24 - 5:27Because right now, at this very moment,
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5:27 - 5:30we have those industrialized fishing
operations plundering those seas, -
5:30 - 5:32taking everything they can.
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5:33 - 5:37Sea Shephard just returned
from Operation Ice Fish, -
5:37 - 5:40which is one of our
most successful campaigns. -
5:40 - 5:44We left the two ships, Sam Simon
and the Bob Barker in December, -
5:44 - 5:49and set out to find six of the most
notorious poaching vessels in the world -
5:49 - 5:54fishing on Patagonian Antarctic toothfish
in the southern oceans. -
5:55 - 5:59On December 17th, the Bob Barker
found the most notorious of them all, -
5:59 - 6:02that was the Thunder, and began a chase.
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6:02 - 6:05That chase lasted for 110 days,
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6:05 - 6:11from the coast of Antarctica to western
Africa, off the equator, off of Sao Tome. -
6:12 - 6:18And with nowhere to run, on April 6th,
the Thunder scuttled their own vessel -
6:18 - 6:20to destroy the evidence.
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6:20 - 6:23But our crew managed to get on board
before it went under the sea, -
6:23 - 6:26and were able to recover
that evidence. -
6:26 - 6:30And they rescued the crew, turned them
over to the Sao Tome officials; -
6:30 - 6:32they're still under detainment.
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6:32 - 6:34When they left,
when they began running, -
6:34 - 6:37they've dropped 72 kilometers
of gill net into the sea. -
6:37 - 6:42Our vessel the Sam Simon
spent 200 hours recovering that gill net. -
6:42 - 6:44And that gill net has now
been offloaded in Germany, -
6:44 - 6:48where it will be recycled into clothing
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6:48 - 6:51because that's part of our project
called the Vortex Project, -
6:51 - 6:54which is to remove plastic
from the oceans and recycle it. -
6:55 - 6:58That campaign, our toothfish campaign,
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6:58 - 7:01resulted in Malaysia
seizing two other vessels, -
7:01 - 7:03Thailand seizing one,
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7:03 - 7:09and as it happened, the remaining two
decided to head off to a place -
7:09 - 7:12and sneak into a port
up in Cape Verde Island. -
7:12 - 7:15And of all the places to choose,
they chose one country -
7:15 - 7:18where we actually had a patrol vessel
off the West African coast, -
7:18 - 7:21and although they changed
their name and their flag, -
7:21 - 7:25Captain Peter Hammarstedt
was able to identify the vessel, -
7:25 - 7:28and last week it was also
detained, boarded, -
7:28 - 7:33and that meant that all six
of these toothfish vessels -
7:33 - 7:35have been now shut down.
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7:35 - 7:37So it's been a highly successful campaign.
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7:37 - 7:39But what I want to really illustrate here
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7:39 - 7:42is that we were, as a non-
government organization, -
7:42 - 7:46able to shut down these notorious
poaching operations, -
7:46 - 7:47whereas over the last 10 years,
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7:47 - 7:52the governments of the world
have done very little to stop them. -
7:52 - 7:53And the reason for that, I think,
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7:53 - 7:57is because there's just simply
no political or economic motivation -
7:57 - 8:01on the part of governments
to uphold international conservation law. -
8:01 - 8:05And this is what has led to the tragedy
of overfishing around the world, -
8:05 - 8:08to the depletion of the whales.
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8:08 - 8:12You know, we've been condemned as
everything from ecoterrorists to pirates -
8:12 - 8:15for opposing the Japanese whaling
operations in the Southern Ocean. -
8:15 - 8:16But people forget
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8:16 - 8:21that there is an international
global moratorium on whaling worldwide -
8:21 - 8:24and that this is the Southern
Ocean whale sanctuary. -
8:24 - 8:28And you don't kill whales
in a whale sanctuary. -
8:28 - 8:30For 10 years we battled them.
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8:30 - 8:33Australia finally took Japan to court.
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8:33 - 8:37The Japanese were condemned
by the International Court of Justice. -
8:37 - 8:39Yet still they say
they're going to continue whaling. -
8:39 - 8:42The International Whaling Commission
has condemned them. -
8:43 - 8:46But what I am proud to say is
that after all of those years, -
8:46 - 8:49what gives us such a sense of satisfaction
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8:49 - 8:52is that there are 6,000 whales
in the Southern Ocean -
8:52 - 8:53that are swimming there now
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8:54 - 8:57that would otherwise be dead
if we hadn't have intervened. -
8:57 - 9:00The passion that my volunteers
bring to the table -
9:00 - 9:03is something that you cannot get -
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9:03 - 9:07you can't pay people to do
what our people do for nothing. -
9:07 - 9:11And so Sea Sheperd has now
become an international movement, -
9:11 - 9:14no longer an organization
but a movement in 40 countries. -
9:14 - 9:17At any time we have
over 100 people at sea. -
9:17 - 9:20Right now we have our vessel
the Martin Sheen in the Sea of Cortez -
9:20 - 9:22protecting the endangered vaquita.
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9:22 - 9:25We have three vessels being prepared
to go up to protect pilot whales -
9:25 - 9:28off the Danish Faroe Islands this summer.
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9:28 - 9:31We have our vessel
the Jairo Mora Sandoval in Cape Verde -
9:31 - 9:35protecting turtles and patrolling
the waters there for poachers. -
9:35 - 9:37And we just secured two new vessels,
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9:37 - 9:40the Jules Verne and the Farley Mowat,
which are now in Florida, -
9:40 - 9:43and we'll be deploying them
to protect sharks -
9:43 - 9:48off of Cocos Island, Costa Rica,
and Malpelo Island off of Colombia. -
9:48 - 9:52So what we're building here
is an international movement of people, -
9:52 - 9:56volunteers, who can make a difference.
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9:57 - 10:00We have to protect our oceans.
If the oceans die, we die. -
10:00 - 10:02We don't live on this planet
with a dead ocean, -
10:02 - 10:04and it's as simple as that.
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10:04 - 10:09And all ecosystems
have to abide by or exist -
10:09 - 10:14within the context of the three
basic laws of ecology: -
10:14 - 10:18diversity, interdependence,
and finite resources. -
10:18 - 10:22And no species can survive
and exist outside those three laws. -
10:22 - 10:25We need diversity;
we need interdependence; -
10:25 - 10:28and there is a limit to resources,
a limit to carrying capacity, -
10:28 - 10:33and right now, we're stealing
the carrying capacity of other species. -
10:33 - 10:37And for our numbers to grow,
they simply have to disappear. -
10:37 - 10:43And that will lead to
the downfall of the human species - -
10:43 - 10:45it's as simple as that.
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10:45 - 10:50We're not here to protect the planet;
the planet can protect itself quite well. -
10:50 - 10:53We're here to protect humanity
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10:53 - 10:56because if we're going to survive,
we're going to have to adapt -
10:56 - 11:01and learn to live within the context
of those laws of ecology. -
11:01 - 11:05And that means that we have to address
the things which are causing the problems. -
11:06 - 11:11Most greenhouse gasses are produced
by the development of agriculture, -
11:11 - 11:13especially the production of meat.
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11:13 - 11:1540% of all of the fish
taken from the ocean -
11:15 - 11:17is fed to livestock -
to pigs, to chickens. -
11:17 - 11:21We now have a situation where chickens
are eating more fish from the ocean -
11:21 - 11:25than all the world's
puffins and albatrosses. -
11:25 - 11:28We're feeding more fish
to our domestic house cats -
11:28 - 11:30than are eaten by seals.
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11:30 - 11:35And we're simply eating the oceans alive,
and we have to address that. -
11:35 - 11:38And that's one of the reasons
that for over 15 years -
11:38 - 11:44our ships have been run as vegan vessels,
and we promote this vegan lifestyle. -
11:44 - 11:46Because there simply
just isn't the resources -
11:46 - 11:50to continue to support
7.5 billion people on this planet -
11:50 - 11:52with the resources that are available.
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11:52 - 11:56The oceans are been depleted
at an alarming rate, -
11:56 - 12:00and right now fish is more important
living in the sea, -
12:00 - 12:03you know, maintaining the ecological
integrity of the ocean -
12:03 - 12:06than it is on anybody's plate.
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12:06 - 12:10I found it quite amusing that last week
I attended the Cannes Film Festival. -
12:10 - 12:16I was invited to a dinner that was
raising monies for environmental groups. -
12:16 - 12:20And at the dinner they served
Chilean seabass. -
12:20 - 12:22And when I pointed that out -
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12:22 - 12:24because they asked
why we weren't eating it, -
12:24 - 12:27and I said, "Well, because
it's an endangered species," -
12:27 - 12:30and the person across from me said,
"But you should really try it. It's good." -
12:30 - 12:34I said: "No, we're depleting
the oceans; they're disappearing." -
12:34 - 12:37And she looked at me very puzzled
and just said, "Yes, but it's good." -
12:37 - 12:40And so it's really hard to get
that message across to people, -
12:40 - 12:43even while those people
are attending a fundraiser -
12:43 - 12:45for environmental organizations.
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12:45 - 12:47They just cannot seem
to get that connection -
12:47 - 12:50that what we eat is destroying our planet
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12:50 - 12:54and destroying the future of our children.
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12:56 - 12:58We all have to get involved in this.
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12:58 - 13:00We can't depend upon governments
to solve these problems. -
13:00 - 13:03They've never have solved
any social problem; they never do. -
13:03 - 13:05Governments mainly cause problems.
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13:05 - 13:09And politicians certainly are
the biggest troublemakers on the planet. -
13:09 - 13:11We have to do this ourselves.
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13:11 - 13:16As Dian Fossey once said that,
you know, we all have to be involved. -
13:16 - 13:17And Margaret Mead said,
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13:17 - 13:20"Never depend upon
any government or corporation -
13:20 - 13:24to solve any social revolution
or problem; they never have. -
13:24 - 13:28All change comes through
the passion of individuals." -
13:28 - 13:31You know, slavery was ended
by people like Wilberforce and Douglas, -
13:31 - 13:34not by the U.S. government
and other governments around the world. -
13:34 - 13:37So it has to be motivated by individuals,
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13:37 - 13:40and the same thing is with
the conservation environmental movement. -
13:40 - 13:43We have to all be involved in that
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13:43 - 13:46if we're going to make
a significant change. -
13:46 - 13:51So what we need,
and what I'm very happy to see, -
13:51 - 13:53is that we're having
a global movement that's growing. -
13:53 - 13:56There's now 3 million
non-government-registered -
13:56 - 13:58environmental organizations in the world.
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13:58 - 14:02There are activists all over the planet
that are making a difference. -
14:02 - 14:05You don't hear about them
because they're not really recorded. -
14:05 - 14:08I mean, in fact, 920 of them
according to the New York Times -
14:08 - 14:12have been murdered over the last 10 years,
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14:12 - 14:14and, you know, we don't hear
much about that -
14:14 - 14:16but that really illustrates
the kind of courage -
14:16 - 14:20that these people all over the world
are making in order to make a difference. -
14:20 - 14:23People killed in Amazonia
protecting the rainforest. -
14:23 - 14:26People killed in Costa Rica,
you know, protecting turtles. -
14:27 - 14:29You know, these are
very, very courageous people -
14:29 - 14:33doing the work that needs to be done
that governments refuse to do. -
14:33 - 14:34And one of the reasons for that
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14:34 - 14:38is that governments are here
protecting the economics -
14:38 - 14:41of what I call
"the economics of extinction," -
14:41 - 14:45that there's money to be made
by driving species into extinction. -
14:45 - 14:47A good example of that
is the blue fin tuna. -
14:47 - 14:52You now, Mitsubishi has about 10 to 15
years' supply in their warehouses. -
14:52 - 14:57They could stop fishing today
and still provide tuna to their customers -
14:57 - 15:01for the next 10 to 15 years,
but they won't do that. -
15:01 - 15:05Because they know that if they do that,
the fish will replenish in the sea, -
15:05 - 15:09and replenish in the sea,
that means that the prices will go down -
15:09 - 15:14because scarcity translates
into higher prices and into profits. -
15:14 - 15:16And if the species are to go extinct,
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15:16 - 15:19well, Mitsubishi's sitting on a warehouse
with 15 years' supply, -
15:19 - 15:21they'll be able to set
their own prices on that -
15:21 - 15:23and make billions of dollars.
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15:23 - 15:27And every fishing industry in the world
is in a similar situation. -
15:27 - 15:33It's where we are literally investing
in the extinction of the species. -
15:33 - 15:37And for that reason, you know,
it's going to be very difficult -
15:37 - 15:39to get change through government areas.
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15:39 - 15:42But there are laws.
Those laws can be enforced. -
15:42 - 15:44United Nations World Charter for Nature
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15:44 - 15:49allows for non-government organizations
and for individuals to actually intervene -
15:49 - 15:51and to make a difference.
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15:51 - 15:56Sea Sheperd's not a protest organization;
we're an interventionist organization. -
15:56 - 15:59We see the laws, we see that laws
are not being enforced, -
15:59 - 16:02and therefore we go out
and we physically enforce them. -
16:02 - 16:04Well, we also do it with a code of ethics.
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16:04 - 16:07That means that we do not cause
any injury to anybody, -
16:07 - 16:10and our history is completely
unblemished in that regard. -
16:10 - 16:12We've never caused a single injury.
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16:12 - 16:14We've never sustained a single injury
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16:14 - 16:16in nearly 40 years of operations
on the high seas -
16:16 - 16:18in very dangerous campaigns.
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16:18 - 16:23But we take extreme precautions
to ensure that this is done nonviolently. -
16:23 - 16:26We're accused of being violent,
but I call that - what we do - -
16:26 - 16:29aggressive nonviolence.
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16:29 - 16:32And I think that when
you destroy something -
16:32 - 16:35which is being used to take life,
like an harpoon or a gun, -
16:35 - 16:38that in fact is an act of nonviolence.
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16:38 - 16:42But in a culture where property
takes precedence over life, -
16:42 - 16:43there is this understanding, however,
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16:43 - 16:47that when you damage property
that that's violent, -
16:47 - 16:50when in fact, it's an act of nonviolence.
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16:50 - 16:51We need more of that.
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16:51 - 16:54The environmental conservation
movement is, in fact, -
16:54 - 16:57the single most nonviolent movement
in the history of the planet. -
16:57 - 17:00It's also the largest growing
movement in the history of the planet, -
17:00 - 17:03and it is a universal movement;
it affects everybody -
17:03 - 17:07regardless of their religion,
their politics, or their philosophies, -
17:07 - 17:10because if we don't save this planet,
we're not going to save ourselves. -
17:10 - 17:15We're basically at war with ourselves
to protect the planet from ourselves. -
17:15 - 17:20And we are doing this for the benefit
of all future generations of all species. -
17:20 - 17:23And if we don't win, then everybody loses.
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17:24 - 17:25Thank you.
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17:25 - 17:28(Applause)
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- If our oceans die, we die | Captain Paul Watson | TEDxNoosa
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Captain Watson is guided by a singular truth: if the oceans die, we die! Humanity and civilization cannot survive on this planet with a dead ocean, and Captain Watson leads a movement that seeks to inspire passionate people to harness their courage, imagination and resolve to defend life and biodiversity in our oceans.
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