1 00:00:01,050 --> 00:00:04,100 Host: It's 7:45 a.m. over in Paris. 2 00:00:04,100 --> 00:00:07,921 I'd like to give a very warm welcome to Captain Paul Watson. 3 00:00:07,921 --> 00:00:10,911 (Applause) 4 00:00:15,562 --> 00:00:17,292 [Paul Watson - Sea Shepherd Captain] 5 00:00:17,292 --> 00:00:18,682 Paul Watson: Okay, thank you. 6 00:00:18,682 --> 00:00:21,885 I'm here in Paris, where at the end of this year 7 00:00:21,885 --> 00:00:24,942 we're going to have yet another international conference 8 00:00:24,942 --> 00:00:28,582 on addressing the threats to our environment. 9 00:00:28,582 --> 00:00:32,342 I attended the United Nations Conference on the Environment in 1972, 10 00:00:32,342 --> 00:00:35,712 and again I attended it in 1992, in Brazil, 11 00:00:35,712 --> 00:00:37,512 the first one being in Sweden. 12 00:00:37,512 --> 00:00:42,592 And not a single, you know, suggestion, proposal, plan 13 00:00:42,592 --> 00:00:46,636 of any of those conferences was ever carried out. 14 00:00:46,636 --> 00:00:49,782 So will this just be another get-together 15 00:00:49,782 --> 00:00:54,102 for international leaders to, you know, have some expensive dinners 16 00:00:54,102 --> 00:00:55,418 and photo ops 17 00:00:55,418 --> 00:00:58,483 or will they actually address some of the issues? 18 00:00:58,483 --> 00:01:00,734 The problem is, when governments get together, 19 00:01:00,734 --> 00:01:03,605 they don't really address the solutions. 20 00:01:03,605 --> 00:01:08,010 Usually come down to: Can we tax anybody over this? 21 00:01:08,010 --> 00:01:09,870 You know, the carbon taxes or whatever. 22 00:01:09,870 --> 00:01:12,253 But there are real solutions, 23 00:01:12,253 --> 00:01:17,267 and the problem is is that people - they want to see change, 24 00:01:17,267 --> 00:01:19,514 but they don't really want to change. 25 00:01:19,889 --> 00:01:22,849 And what we have to address here 26 00:01:22,849 --> 00:01:26,259 is the problem of what we're doing to our oceans. 27 00:01:26,654 --> 00:01:30,584 The ocean is the life support system for this planet. 28 00:01:31,780 --> 00:01:34,210 It provides food, it provides oxygen - 29 00:01:34,210 --> 00:01:38,716 about up to 80% of the oxygen is supplied by phytoplankton in the sea. 30 00:01:39,053 --> 00:01:42,033 It regulates temperature, storms. 31 00:01:42,033 --> 00:01:44,108 It is the life support system. 32 00:01:44,108 --> 00:01:48,540 And on Space Ship Earth that life support system is run by a crew. 33 00:01:48,540 --> 00:01:50,987 And we're not crew, we're just simply passengers. 34 00:01:50,987 --> 00:01:53,200 We're having a great time amusing ourselves. 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,091 But the crew, well, we're killing them. 36 00:01:56,091 --> 00:02:00,011 Everything from the bacteria through to the plankton to the fish 37 00:02:00,011 --> 00:02:01,830 to the great whales to the trees, 38 00:02:01,830 --> 00:02:03,103 we're killing them. 39 00:02:03,103 --> 00:02:06,800 And there's only so many crew members you can kill 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,731 before the machinery begins to collapse. 41 00:02:10,066 --> 00:02:13,096 And that's where our future is heading right now, 42 00:02:13,096 --> 00:02:15,861 a collapsing life support system. 43 00:02:16,307 --> 00:02:19,983 One of the things that I want to bring to this conference here in Paris 44 00:02:19,983 --> 00:02:26,061 is the need to replenish diversity in our oceans. 45 00:02:26,061 --> 00:02:31,165 Industrial fishing fleets have destroyed 90% of the fishes over the last 16 years. 46 00:02:31,565 --> 00:02:35,395 The whaling industry has devastated entire whaling populations, 47 00:02:35,395 --> 00:02:37,921 driven many of them to the brink of extinction. 48 00:02:39,010 --> 00:02:43,040 And these are the species that keep everything running in the sea. 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,117 For example, a blue whale. 50 00:02:45,117 --> 00:02:50,169 One blue whale, every day, defecates three tons into the sea. 51 00:02:50,169 --> 00:02:53,808 Three tons of iron-, nitrogen-rich fertilizer, 52 00:02:53,808 --> 00:02:57,820 and that of course provides nutrients for the phytoplankton, 53 00:02:57,820 --> 00:03:00,060 which in turns provides food to the zooplankton, 54 00:03:00,060 --> 00:03:04,857 which provides food to the fish and ultimately, again, to the whales. 55 00:03:04,857 --> 00:03:11,765 Since 1950 we've seen a 30 to 40% decline in phytoplankton populations in the ocean. 56 00:03:11,765 --> 00:03:13,485 And I think a lot of that has to do 57 00:03:13,485 --> 00:03:16,742 with the fact that we've diminished the whale population so much. 58 00:03:16,742 --> 00:03:20,482 We killed 300,000 blue whales in the twentieth century. 59 00:03:20,482 --> 00:03:25,269 That's an incredible amount of iron- and nitrogen-rich fertilizer 60 00:03:25,269 --> 00:03:27,739 that has been taken away from the sea. 61 00:03:27,739 --> 00:03:30,974 We humans, we take fish from the sea and put nothing back. 62 00:03:30,974 --> 00:03:36,164 We have actually no long history of being part of that ecosystem. 63 00:03:36,164 --> 00:03:38,335 And so we've been rather destructive about it. 64 00:03:38,335 --> 00:03:40,123 Fishermen will say, "Well, you know, 65 00:03:40,123 --> 00:03:46,491 we need to get rid of the seals and the dolphins and the seabirds 66 00:03:46,491 --> 00:03:49,367 because they're eating all our fish," like we own those fish. 67 00:03:49,367 --> 00:03:51,347 But the fact is is if you want more fish, 68 00:03:51,347 --> 00:03:55,290 you need more seals, you need more dolphins, you need more whales. 69 00:03:55,290 --> 00:03:58,404 It's a cycle that's worked perfectly for millions of years, 70 00:03:58,404 --> 00:04:01,474 and we have destroyed that cycle. 71 00:04:01,823 --> 00:04:03,533 You know, 300 years ago 72 00:04:03,533 --> 00:04:05,845 there was no shortage of fish in the oceans. 73 00:04:05,845 --> 00:04:10,873 When Jacques Cartier set out from France to Canada in 1534, 74 00:04:10,873 --> 00:04:14,740 there were some 45 millions seals in the North Atlantic, 75 00:04:14,740 --> 00:04:17,695 including species that are now extinct. 76 00:04:17,695 --> 00:04:19,530 There were animals like the sea mink, 77 00:04:19,530 --> 00:04:21,346 the atlantic gray whale 78 00:04:21,346 --> 00:04:22,714 and the giant auk, 79 00:04:22,714 --> 00:04:26,133 and once we were even walrus in the North Atlantic - all gone. 80 00:04:26,133 --> 00:04:29,345 We used to have beluga whales in Long Island Sound off of New York - 81 00:04:29,345 --> 00:04:30,405 all gone. 82 00:04:30,405 --> 00:04:33,224 The tragedy is is that not only have we destroyed them, 83 00:04:33,224 --> 00:04:36,293 we've actually forgotten that they've ever existed, 84 00:04:36,293 --> 00:04:40,165 and that diminishment has been ongoing. 85 00:04:40,165 --> 00:04:42,692 I was raised in a fishing village in Eastern Canada. 86 00:04:42,692 --> 00:04:44,928 I've seen that diminishment in the seas. 87 00:04:45,057 --> 00:04:47,421 If we can replenish our ocean, 88 00:04:47,421 --> 00:04:51,954 and that means a total ban on industrialized fishing operations - 89 00:04:51,954 --> 00:04:55,554 long lines, trawlers, seiners - we have to get rid of them. 90 00:04:55,554 --> 00:04:58,575 If there's going to be any fishing, it has to be artisanal only, 91 00:04:58,575 --> 00:04:59,600 local fishermen. 92 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,900 You know, we always talk about the jobs, the jobs that are at the sea. 93 00:05:02,900 --> 00:05:05,656 We don't talk about the people who really lose their jobs: 94 00:05:05,656 --> 00:05:07,686 a million Indian fishermen put out of work 95 00:05:07,686 --> 00:05:10,694 because of the Norwegian dragger fleets going down their coast; 96 00:05:10,694 --> 00:05:14,671 Somali pirates driven to desperation because the real pirates, 97 00:05:14,671 --> 00:05:16,779 the European and the Asian fishing fleets 98 00:05:16,779 --> 00:05:19,828 came in and took everything out of their waters. 99 00:05:19,828 --> 00:05:23,017 Within 10 years' time we're going to have the pirates of Mauritania, 100 00:05:23,017 --> 00:05:24,324 the pirates of Senegal. 101 00:05:24,324 --> 00:05:26,541 Because right now, at this very moment, 102 00:05:26,541 --> 00:05:30,351 we have those industrialized fishing operations plundering those seas, 103 00:05:30,351 --> 00:05:32,245 taking everything they can. 104 00:05:32,788 --> 00:05:36,788 Sea Shephard just returned from Operation Ice Fish, 105 00:05:36,788 --> 00:05:39,583 which is one of our most successful campaigns. 106 00:05:39,583 --> 00:05:43,770 We left the two ships, Sam Simon and the Bob Barker in December, 107 00:05:43,770 --> 00:05:49,094 and set out to find six of the most notorious poaching vessels in the world 108 00:05:49,094 --> 00:05:53,767 fishing on Patagonian Antarctic toothfish in the southern oceans. 109 00:05:54,521 --> 00:05:58,661 On December 17th, the Bob Barker found the most notorious of them all, 110 00:05:58,661 --> 00:06:01,573 that was the Thunder, and began a chase. 111 00:06:01,573 --> 00:06:04,580 That chase lasted for 110 days, 112 00:06:04,580 --> 00:06:11,460 from the coast of Antarctica to western Africa, off the equator, off of Sao Tome. 113 00:06:12,257 --> 00:06:18,406 And with nowhere to run, on April 6th, the Thunder scuttled their own vessel 114 00:06:18,406 --> 00:06:19,792 to destroy the evidence. 115 00:06:19,792 --> 00:06:22,931 But our crew managed to get on board before it went under the sea, 116 00:06:22,931 --> 00:06:26,233 and were able to recover that evidence. 117 00:06:26,233 --> 00:06:29,710 And they rescued the crew, turned them over to the Sao Tome officials; 118 00:06:29,710 --> 00:06:32,026 they're still under detainment. 119 00:06:32,479 --> 00:06:34,429 When they left, when they began running, 120 00:06:34,429 --> 00:06:37,490 they've dropped 72 kilometers of gill net into the sea. 121 00:06:37,490 --> 00:06:41,792 Our vessel the Sam Simon spent 200 hours recovering that gill net. 122 00:06:41,792 --> 00:06:44,233 And that gill net has now been offloaded in Germany, 123 00:06:44,233 --> 00:06:48,071 where it will be recycled into clothing 124 00:06:48,071 --> 00:06:50,945 because that's part of our project called the Vortex Project, 125 00:06:50,945 --> 00:06:54,412 which is to remove plastic from the oceans and recycle it. 126 00:06:54,858 --> 00:06:57,988 That campaign, our toothfish campaign, 127 00:06:57,988 --> 00:07:01,071 resulted in Malaysia seizing two other vessels, 128 00:07:01,071 --> 00:07:02,771 Thailand seizing one, 129 00:07:02,771 --> 00:07:08,849 and as it happened, the remaining two decided to head off to a place 130 00:07:08,849 --> 00:07:11,938 and sneak into a port up in Cape Verde Island. 131 00:07:11,938 --> 00:07:14,577 And of all the places to choose, they chose one country 132 00:07:14,577 --> 00:07:17,883 where we actually had a patrol vessel off the West African coast, 133 00:07:17,883 --> 00:07:20,634 and although they changed their name and their flag, 134 00:07:20,634 --> 00:07:25,231 Captain Peter Hammarstedt was able to identify the vessel, 135 00:07:25,231 --> 00:07:28,427 and last week it was also detained, boarded, 136 00:07:28,427 --> 00:07:32,806 and that meant that all six of these toothfish vessels 137 00:07:32,806 --> 00:07:35,202 have been now shut down. 138 00:07:35,202 --> 00:07:37,309 So it's been a highly successful campaign. 139 00:07:37,309 --> 00:07:39,260 But what I want to really illustrate here 140 00:07:39,260 --> 00:07:41,827 is that we were, as a non- government organization, 141 00:07:41,827 --> 00:07:45,744 able to shut down these notorious poaching operations, 142 00:07:45,744 --> 00:07:47,308 whereas over the last 10 years, 143 00:07:47,308 --> 00:07:51,534 the governments of the world have done very little to stop them. 144 00:07:51,534 --> 00:07:53,150 And the reason for that, I think, 145 00:07:53,150 --> 00:07:56,885 is because there's just simply no political or economic motivation 146 00:07:56,885 --> 00:08:01,340 on the part of governments to uphold international conservation law. 147 00:08:01,340 --> 00:08:05,265 And this is what has led to the tragedy of overfishing around the world, 148 00:08:05,265 --> 00:08:07,534 to the depletion of the whales. 149 00:08:07,534 --> 00:08:11,554 You know, we've been condemned as everything from ecoterrorists to pirates 150 00:08:11,554 --> 00:08:15,361 for opposing the Japanese whaling operations in the Southern Ocean. 151 00:08:15,361 --> 00:08:16,385 But people forget 152 00:08:16,385 --> 00:08:20,925 that there is an international global moratorium on whaling worldwide 153 00:08:20,925 --> 00:08:23,876 and that this is the Southern Ocean whale sanctuary. 154 00:08:23,876 --> 00:08:27,720 And you don't kill whales in a whale sanctuary. 155 00:08:27,910 --> 00:08:29,629 For 10 years we battled them. 156 00:08:29,629 --> 00:08:33,049 Australia finally took Japan to court. 157 00:08:33,049 --> 00:08:36,564 The Japanese were condemned by the International Court of Justice. 158 00:08:36,564 --> 00:08:39,241 Yet still they say they're going to continue whaling. 159 00:08:39,241 --> 00:08:42,136 The International Whaling Commission has condemned them. 160 00:08:43,086 --> 00:08:46,409 But what I am proud to say is that after all of those years, 161 00:08:46,409 --> 00:08:48,713 what gives us such a sense of satisfaction 162 00:08:48,713 --> 00:08:51,790 is that there are 6,000 whales in the Southern Ocean 163 00:08:51,790 --> 00:08:53,336 that are swimming there now 164 00:08:53,696 --> 00:08:57,001 that would otherwise be dead if we hadn't have intervened. 165 00:08:57,001 --> 00:09:00,314 The passion that my volunteers bring to the table 166 00:09:00,314 --> 00:09:02,857 is something that you cannot get - 167 00:09:02,857 --> 00:09:07,466 you can't pay people to do what our people do for nothing. 168 00:09:07,466 --> 00:09:11,078 And so Sea Sheperd has now become an international movement, 169 00:09:11,078 --> 00:09:13,840 no longer an organization but a movement in 40 countries. 170 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,609 At any time we have over 100 people at sea. 171 00:09:16,609 --> 00:09:20,046 Right now we have our vessel the Martin Sheen in the Sea of Cortez 172 00:09:20,046 --> 00:09:22,151 protecting the endangered vaquita. 173 00:09:22,151 --> 00:09:25,433 We have three vessels being prepared to go up to protect pilot whales 174 00:09:25,433 --> 00:09:28,226 off the Danish Faroe Islands this summer. 175 00:09:28,226 --> 00:09:31,142 We have our vessel the Jairo Mora Sandoval in Cape Verde 176 00:09:31,142 --> 00:09:34,770 protecting turtles and patrolling the waters there for poachers. 177 00:09:34,770 --> 00:09:37,215 And we just secured two new vessels, 178 00:09:37,215 --> 00:09:40,352 the Jules Verne and the Farley Mowat, which are now in Florida, 179 00:09:40,352 --> 00:09:42,909 and we'll be deploying them to protect sharks 180 00:09:42,909 --> 00:09:48,261 off of Cocos Island, Costa Rica, and Malpelo Island off of Colombia. 181 00:09:48,261 --> 00:09:52,271 So what we're building here is an international movement of people, 182 00:09:52,271 --> 00:09:55,748 volunteers, who can make a difference. 183 00:09:56,570 --> 00:09:59,827 We have to protect our oceans. If the oceans die, we die. 184 00:09:59,827 --> 00:10:02,023 We don't live on this planet with a dead ocean, 185 00:10:02,023 --> 00:10:04,032 and it's as simple as that. 186 00:10:04,032 --> 00:10:09,043 And all ecosystems have to abide by or exist 187 00:10:09,043 --> 00:10:13,563 within the context of the three basic laws of ecology: 188 00:10:13,563 --> 00:10:17,675 diversity, interdependence, and finite resources. 189 00:10:17,675 --> 00:10:21,853 And no species can survive and exist outside those three laws. 190 00:10:21,853 --> 00:10:24,678 We need diversity; we need interdependence; 191 00:10:24,678 --> 00:10:28,312 and there is a limit to resources, a limit to carrying capacity, 192 00:10:28,312 --> 00:10:33,210 and right now, we're stealing the carrying capacity of other species. 193 00:10:33,330 --> 00:10:37,382 And for our numbers to grow, they simply have to disappear. 194 00:10:37,382 --> 00:10:43,480 And that will lead to the downfall of the human species - 195 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:44,670 it's as simple as that. 196 00:10:44,670 --> 00:10:50,031 We're not here to protect the planet; the planet can protect itself quite well. 197 00:10:50,031 --> 00:10:52,573 We're here to protect humanity 198 00:10:52,573 --> 00:10:55,603 because if we're going to survive, we're going to have to adapt 199 00:10:55,603 --> 00:11:00,613 and learn to live within the context of those laws of ecology. 200 00:11:00,613 --> 00:11:04,538 And that means that we have to address the things which are causing the problems. 201 00:11:05,672 --> 00:11:10,668 Most greenhouse gasses are produced by the development of agriculture, 202 00:11:10,668 --> 00:11:12,996 especially the production of meat. 203 00:11:12,996 --> 00:11:15,164 40% of all of the fish taken from the ocean 204 00:11:15,164 --> 00:11:17,414 is fed to livestock - to pigs, to chickens. 205 00:11:17,414 --> 00:11:21,043 We now have a situation where chickens are eating more fish from the ocean 206 00:11:21,043 --> 00:11:25,308 than all the world's puffins and albatrosses. 207 00:11:25,308 --> 00:11:27,783 We're feeding more fish to our domestic house cats 208 00:11:27,783 --> 00:11:30,472 than are eaten by seals. 209 00:11:30,472 --> 00:11:35,041 And we're simply eating the oceans alive, and we have to address that. 210 00:11:35,041 --> 00:11:37,975 And that's one of the reasons that for over 15 years 211 00:11:37,975 --> 00:11:43,550 our ships have been run as vegan vessels, and we promote this vegan lifestyle. 212 00:11:43,550 --> 00:11:45,648 Because there simply just isn't the resources 213 00:11:45,648 --> 00:11:50,213 to continue to support 7.5 billion people on this planet 214 00:11:50,213 --> 00:11:52,369 with the resources that are available. 215 00:11:52,369 --> 00:11:55,850 The oceans are been depleted at an alarming rate, 216 00:11:55,850 --> 00:11:59,501 and right now fish is more important living in the sea, 217 00:11:59,501 --> 00:12:02,817 you know, maintaining the ecological integrity of the ocean 218 00:12:02,817 --> 00:12:06,002 than it is on anybody's plate. 219 00:12:06,177 --> 00:12:09,847 I found it quite amusing that last week I attended the Cannes Film Festival. 220 00:12:09,847 --> 00:12:16,424 I was invited to a dinner that was raising monies for environmental groups. 221 00:12:16,424 --> 00:12:19,892 And at the dinner they served Chilean seabass. 222 00:12:20,257 --> 00:12:21,979 And when I pointed that out - 223 00:12:21,979 --> 00:12:24,055 because they asked why we weren't eating it, 224 00:12:24,055 --> 00:12:26,632 and I said, "Well, because it's an endangered species," 225 00:12:26,632 --> 00:12:30,355 and the person across from me said, "But you should really try it. It's good." 226 00:12:30,355 --> 00:12:33,526 I said: "No, we're depleting the oceans; they're disappearing." 227 00:12:33,526 --> 00:12:36,889 And she looked at me very puzzled and just said, "Yes, but it's good." 228 00:12:36,889 --> 00:12:40,228 And so it's really hard to get that message across to people, 229 00:12:40,228 --> 00:12:42,599 even while those people are attending a fundraiser 230 00:12:42,599 --> 00:12:44,635 for environmental organizations. 231 00:12:44,635 --> 00:12:47,067 They just cannot seem to get that connection 232 00:12:47,067 --> 00:12:50,273 that what we eat is destroying our planet 233 00:12:50,273 --> 00:12:54,428 and destroying the future of our children. 234 00:12:55,773 --> 00:12:57,567 We all have to get involved in this. 235 00:12:57,567 --> 00:13:00,462 We can't depend upon governments to solve these problems. 236 00:13:00,462 --> 00:13:03,396 They've never have solved any social problem; they never do. 237 00:13:03,396 --> 00:13:05,303 Governments mainly cause problems. 238 00:13:05,303 --> 00:13:08,992 And politicians certainly are the biggest troublemakers on the planet. 239 00:13:08,992 --> 00:13:11,229 We have to do this ourselves. 240 00:13:11,229 --> 00:13:15,668 As Dian Fossey once said that, you know, we all have to be involved. 241 00:13:15,668 --> 00:13:16,777 And Margaret Mead said, 242 00:13:16,777 --> 00:13:20,106 "Never depend upon any government or corporation 243 00:13:20,106 --> 00:13:23,558 to solve any social revolution or problem; they never have. 244 00:13:23,792 --> 00:13:27,574 All change comes through the passion of individuals." 245 00:13:27,574 --> 00:13:30,749 You know, slavery was ended by people like Wilberforce and Douglas, 246 00:13:30,749 --> 00:13:34,147 not by the U.S. government and other governments around the world. 247 00:13:34,147 --> 00:13:36,533 So it has to be motivated by individuals, 248 00:13:36,533 --> 00:13:39,691 and the same thing is with the conservation environmental movement. 249 00:13:39,691 --> 00:13:42,630 We have to all be involved in that 250 00:13:42,630 --> 00:13:45,544 if we're going to make a significant change. 251 00:13:45,794 --> 00:13:50,900 So what we need, and what I'm very happy to see, 252 00:13:50,900 --> 00:13:53,490 is that we're having a global movement that's growing. 253 00:13:53,490 --> 00:13:56,105 There's now 3 million non-government-registered 254 00:13:56,105 --> 00:13:58,440 environmental organizations in the world. 255 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,808 There are activists all over the planet that are making a difference. 256 00:14:01,808 --> 00:14:04,712 You don't hear about them because they're not really recorded. 257 00:14:04,712 --> 00:14:08,115 I mean, in fact, 920 of them according to the New York Times 258 00:14:08,115 --> 00:14:11,659 have been murdered over the last 10 years, 259 00:14:11,659 --> 00:14:13,836 and, you know, we don't hear much about that 260 00:14:13,836 --> 00:14:16,089 but that really illustrates the kind of courage 261 00:14:16,089 --> 00:14:20,142 that these people all over the world are making in order to make a difference. 262 00:14:20,142 --> 00:14:22,573 People killed in Amazonia protecting the rainforest. 263 00:14:22,573 --> 00:14:26,372 People killed in Costa Rica, you know, protecting turtles. 264 00:14:26,919 --> 00:14:29,221 You know, these are very, very courageous people 265 00:14:29,221 --> 00:14:32,577 doing the work that needs to be done that governments refuse to do. 266 00:14:32,577 --> 00:14:34,180 And one of the reasons for that 267 00:14:34,180 --> 00:14:38,325 is that governments are here protecting the economics 268 00:14:38,325 --> 00:14:41,025 of what I call "the economics of extinction," 269 00:14:41,025 --> 00:14:44,628 that there's money to be made by driving species into extinction. 270 00:14:44,628 --> 00:14:47,259 A good example of that is the blue fin tuna. 271 00:14:47,259 --> 00:14:51,791 You now, Mitsubishi has about 10 to 15 years' supply in their warehouses. 272 00:14:51,791 --> 00:14:56,992 They could stop fishing today and still provide tuna to their customers 273 00:14:56,992 --> 00:15:00,963 for the next 10 to 15 years, but they won't do that. 274 00:15:00,963 --> 00:15:05,023 Because they know that if they do that, the fish will replenish in the sea, 275 00:15:05,023 --> 00:15:09,169 and replenish in the sea, that means that the prices will go down 276 00:15:09,169 --> 00:15:13,778 because scarcity translates into higher prices and into profits. 277 00:15:13,778 --> 00:15:15,880 And if the species are to go extinct, 278 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,265 well, Mitsubishi's sitting on a warehouse with 15 years' supply, 279 00:15:19,265 --> 00:15:21,473 they'll be able to set their own prices on that 280 00:15:21,473 --> 00:15:23,273 and make billions of dollars. 281 00:15:23,273 --> 00:15:26,829 And every fishing industry in the world is in a similar situation. 282 00:15:26,829 --> 00:15:32,623 It's where we are literally investing in the extinction of the species. 283 00:15:32,623 --> 00:15:36,873 And for that reason, you know, it's going to be very difficult 284 00:15:36,873 --> 00:15:39,460 to get change through government areas. 285 00:15:39,460 --> 00:15:42,208 But there are laws. Those laws can be enforced. 286 00:15:42,208 --> 00:15:44,137 United Nations World Charter for Nature 287 00:15:44,137 --> 00:15:48,907 allows for non-government organizations and for individuals to actually intervene 288 00:15:48,907 --> 00:15:51,388 and to make a difference. 289 00:15:51,388 --> 00:15:55,667 Sea Sheperd's not a protest organization; we're an interventionist organization. 290 00:15:55,667 --> 00:15:59,043 We see the laws, we see that laws are not being enforced, 291 00:15:59,043 --> 00:16:01,776 and therefore we go out and we physically enforce them. 292 00:16:01,776 --> 00:16:03,970 Well, we also do it with a code of ethics. 293 00:16:03,970 --> 00:16:07,329 That means that we do not cause any injury to anybody, 294 00:16:07,329 --> 00:16:10,023 and our history is completely unblemished in that regard. 295 00:16:10,023 --> 00:16:11,892 We've never caused a single injury. 296 00:16:11,892 --> 00:16:13,715 We've never sustained a single injury 297 00:16:13,715 --> 00:16:16,195 in nearly 40 years of operations on the high seas 298 00:16:16,195 --> 00:16:18,115 in very dangerous campaigns. 299 00:16:18,115 --> 00:16:23,483 But we take extreme precautions to ensure that this is done nonviolently. 300 00:16:23,483 --> 00:16:26,465 We're accused of being violent, but I call that - what we do - 301 00:16:26,465 --> 00:16:28,899 aggressive nonviolence. 302 00:16:29,081 --> 00:16:31,687 And I think that when you destroy something 303 00:16:31,687 --> 00:16:35,009 which is being used to take life, like an harpoon or a gun, 304 00:16:35,009 --> 00:16:37,848 that in fact is an act of nonviolence. 305 00:16:37,848 --> 00:16:41,715 But in a culture where property takes precedence over life, 306 00:16:41,715 --> 00:16:43,493 there is this understanding, however, 307 00:16:43,493 --> 00:16:46,554 that when you damage property that that's violent, 308 00:16:46,554 --> 00:16:49,985 when in fact, it's an act of nonviolence. 309 00:16:50,155 --> 00:16:51,449 We need more of that. 310 00:16:51,449 --> 00:16:53,901 The environmental conservation movement is, in fact, 311 00:16:53,901 --> 00:16:56,946 the single most nonviolent movement in the history of the planet. 312 00:16:56,946 --> 00:17:00,171 It's also the largest growing movement in the history of the planet, 313 00:17:00,171 --> 00:17:02,653 and it is a universal movement; it affects everybody 314 00:17:02,653 --> 00:17:06,553 regardless of their religion, their politics, or their philosophies, 315 00:17:06,553 --> 00:17:10,263 because if we don't save this planet, we're not going to save ourselves. 316 00:17:10,263 --> 00:17:14,652 We're basically at war with ourselves to protect the planet from ourselves. 317 00:17:14,652 --> 00:17:19,881 And we are doing this for the benefit of all future generations of all species. 318 00:17:19,881 --> 00:17:23,450 And if we don't win, then everybody loses. 319 00:17:23,540 --> 00:17:24,696 Thank you. 320 00:17:24,942 --> 00:17:27,942 (Applause)