Ian McCormack - CBN interview (Part 1 of 2)
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0:01 - 0:12Gordon/700 Club: Ian McCormack had traveled for two years chasing adventure around the globe, we wound up on the island of Mauritius, an island known for great surfing and diving.
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Woman on Video: Ian McCormack loved the ocean, he was an avid diver, but nothing prepared him for what he was about to encounter. -
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McCormack: As we dove into the water something smashed into my forearm, it felt like thousands of bolts of electricity. -
0:27 - 0:36My whole arm was swollen double its normal size, my arm was blistered where the tentacles had hit me like burn blisters.
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0:36 - 0:41I could feel the toxin quickly moving up my lymph glands.
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0:41 - 0:46I thought Ian, what on earth have you done in your life to deserve this kind of punishment.
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Woman on Video: Ian was stung by five box jelly fish. -
0:49 - 0:53One can kill a person in four minutes.
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0:53 - 0:55And he wasn’t ready to die.
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0:55 - 0:59He was young, loved to travel, party, womanize.
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0:59 - 1:05He had also been an atheist and didn’t know what was waiting for him in the after -life.
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1:05 - 1:13With precious time passing by, and several failed attempts for help, Ian finally got an ambulance to take him to the hospital.
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1:13 - 1:18But Ian knew it was probably too late.
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Gordon: Welcome to the 700 Club, Ian McCormack – Ian it is wonderful to have you. -
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McCormack: Its great to be here. -
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Gordon: Your story is one of the most amazing miracles I have ever heard. -
1:30 - 1:36What was your life like before you got attacked by the jellyfish.
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McCormack: Very much a non-Christian. -
1:38 - 1:43Partying, traveling, surfing, nightclubs.
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1:43 - 1:48Religion was something that old people involved in, and mother.
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Gordon: Your mother was a Christian?
McCormack: She was what you would call in the states Episcopalian, or Church of England. -
1:55 - 2:05So I had been brought up as a child in it, but I thought it was for grandmother and old ladies – not for young people.
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Gordon: Not for you?
McCormack: No, so I went looking at Eastern religions, and traveling – that was what I was doing surfing around the world. -
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Gordon: So you get in your diving, you get stung by FIVE box jellyfish – not just one – but FIVE. -
2:23 - 2:26And one is enough to kill you.
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McCormack: That’s right. -
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Gordon: And kill you in how long?
McCormack: The quickest I have heard when you have been stung across the throat, around the heart, 3 minutes. -
2:34 - 2:37Many people die within 15-20 minutes.
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2:37 - 2:39Some even 10.
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2:39 - 2:41It depends on what part of the body you are stung on.
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2:41 - 2:44And others have lived up to 1 ½ hours.
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2:44 - 2:49So when I was hurt, the fisherman turned white, and said Ian one of these will kill you.
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2:49 - 2:52So when you see the black Safarian turn white, it is very troubling.
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2:52 - 2:55And I could feel the poison moving quickly into my body.
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2:55 - 2:58I knew I had very little time.
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2:58 - 3:03They got me into the boat and said Ian urinate on your arm We need to get to a hospital immediately.
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3:03 - 3:10So I was frightened, I was very frightened.
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Gordon: I assume you knew you were dying?
McCormack: The poison was moving so quickly, it was paralyzing right down my right side. -
3:21 - 3:25By the time I got in the ambulance I was completely paralyzed.
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3:25 - 3:29My body went through death rattles.
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3:29 - 3:31It was frightening.
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Gordon: When did you know that you were actually dead? Because you were…
McCormack: Well as I was going into the hospital in the ambulance, I saw my life flashing before me. -
3:42 - 3:46I thought perhaps I won’t make it, is there life after death.
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3:46 - 3:51And as I am questioning all of these things, my mother appears in a clear vision, in front of me.
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3:51 - 3:52on her knees praying.
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3:52 - 3:56I didn’t realize, but back in New Zealand, she was the only Christian.
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3:56 - 4:02She had just seen God reveal my fate to her and said that your elder son is nearly dead.
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Gordon: So your mother is alive, she is in New Zealand, she gets a visitation?
McCormack: I would say so, a vision, a clear vision of my face and God audibly speaking to her. -
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Gordon: And he said?
McCormack: Your elder son Ian is nearly dead, start praying for him now. -
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Gordon: And she starts praying? And you and the ambulance. -
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McCormack: See her doing this – and she is saying call out to God. -
4:28 - 4:34No matter how far you are from God you are son – he will forgive you! Call out from your heart.
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4:34 - 4:43I thought – well I don’t believe in God, and it’s too late, how can he forgive me? But I knew my mother was a Christian, and I thought well maybe there is a God.
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4:43 - 4:46If there is, show me your face, help me to pray.
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4:46 - 5:00So suddenly the Lord’s prayer appears in front of me – forgive us our sins – so I asked God to forgive me and forgive others who have sinned against you.
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5:00 - 5:06I thought well I can do that – and God showed me pictures of two faces of people that I had difficulty forgiving.
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5:06 - 5:10I had a chance to forgive them, give your life to the lord, thy will be done.
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Gordon: All during your adventure to get to the ambulance to the hospital. -
5:13 - 5:15you had been abandoned.
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5:15 - 5:25People didn’t want to pick up dying guy – and do anything for you…
McCormack: One actually pushed me out of his taxi because I didn’t have any money. -
5:25 - 5:30And that was one of the faces – the Indian taxi driver – and God was asking me would you forgive him.
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5:30 - 5:32That’s not easy.
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5:32 - 5:35You can say the words, but to do it from your heart is not that easy.
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5:35 - 5:42But Jesus said if you don’t forgive others who have sinned against you, your heavenly Father will not forgive you of your sins.
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5:42 - 5:44So I thank God that I forgave them.
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5:44 - 5:53(haha) The Lord’s prayer – I prayed from my heart – I felt like weeping, but I was proud – I controlled my emotions.
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5:53 - 5:57The peace that came in has never left me in 28 years.
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Gordon: What happened next?
McCormack: Well I knew that I had given my heart to God, and there was a peace that had come, but my body was still dying. -
6:05 - 6:09They got me to the hospital and I could feel myself coming out of my body.
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6:09 - 6:16I could hear them talking and saying that is all we can do for you as they shoved an anti toxin serum into me.
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6:16 - 6:23I thought I would stay awake all night, but I had no strength, I felt like I had a machete in my eyes and I thought I would gather more strength.
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6:23 - 6:28As it happened, the machines monitoring my heart flat lined and I was pronounced dead.
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6:28 - 6:54
Gordon: And you heard that?
McCormack: Yeah, and I am out of my body, alive, looking and I am thinking…
Gordon: You heard the flat tones, and you heard a doctor say…
McCormack: They are running to my body, and I am alive out of the body, and you can tell by everything that is happening that I am gone. -
6:54 - 7:11So I am out of their hospital and in complete darkness – so I am like has there been a power cut, have the lights gone out, or have I died? So I am groping around in the darkness looking for a light switch – it is so dark I cannot see my hand in front of my face.
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7:11 - 7:17I bring my hand toward my face and it goes through my face – that is impossible.
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7:17 - 7:20Two hands, both hands, nothing.
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7:20 - 7:30Then I have the terrifying realization that I could be alive out of my body.
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7:30 - 7:38The closest thing I could thing of was that I had met people who had amputations and they could feel their limb was there– phantom pain it is called – the medical term.
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7:38 - 7:53So I am going could my physical body be back in that hospital – where am I? And then I could feel evil – the most intense evil! It was like invisible eyes looking at me, it was like a spiritual darkness.
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7:53 - 7:59I heard men shouting out of the darkness at me saying “Shut up!” I thought – I said nothing.
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7:59 - 8:23Not realizing my inner thought was a speech and they could hear – who turned the lights out – another man “he deserves to be here”, I said “deserves to be where?” – another man in front of me “you’re in hell!” In hell? I didn’t believe in it – you know what I mean? it’s supposed to be a party place, I am wrestling with this whole concept and then I have a realization that this could be hell, could be Hades.
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8:23 - 8:30The next minute I am thinking God has every reason to send me here and yet I reflected on the fact that I had prayed in the ambulance.
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8:30 - 8:35The next minute a radiant light pierces through the darkness and draws me out.
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Gordon: So you remembered your prayer, and you remembered the peace that the prayer brought, and as soon as you remembered it the light came?
McCormack: Yes – Psalm 23 – the Lord is my shepherd even though I walk through the valley of the shadow death – the Hebrew word is deep darkness – I shall fear no evil. -
8:54 - 8:57So the evil was all around me – but it couldn’t touch me.
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8:57 - 9:04Nothing can separate me from God – neither life nor death.
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9:04 - 9:09Now I didn’t know scripture but after – the scripture just came alive to me – of what actually happened.
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9:09 - 9:15I was walking in darkness and saw a great light, he has delivered me from the king of darkness.
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9:15 - 9:27Now I had seen sunlight come through windows as a child and dust go up in it – and I was like a spec of dust going up – walking in darkness and seen a great light.
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9:27 - 9:36I was being drawn up and saw a tunnel of light – what is that? I am now drawn into this narrow tunnel.
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9:36 - 9:48Jesus said narrow is the way – and I moved down this tunnel at the speed of light – waves of radiance come up – first wave – comfort – I thought that is a living emotion – it’s a living light.
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9:48 - 9:55Another wave – peace – oh the peace of God goes right through me.
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9:55 - 10:01I don’t know what to do.
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10:01 -Jesus said – I am the Prince of Peace.
- Title:
- Ian McCormack - CBN interview (Part 1 of 2)
- Description:
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Ian McCormack interview on CBN detailing his experience of dying and experiencing hell, heaven and God.
Ian was stung by 5 deadly box jellyfish and was an atheist up until this experience. After the out of body experience and his visitation into the Spiritual dimension he returned a believer.
- Video Language:
- English
- Duration:
- 10:01
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