Who takes care of the guardians of the forest? | Ricardo Affonso Ferreira | TEDxSãoPaulo
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0:16 - 0:20Let's take a look at this video now;
later, we'll talk a little. -
0:22 - 0:23(Video)
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0:25 - 0:30Davi Kopenawa: Without the forest,
there's hunger, illness, and lack of food. -
0:31 - 0:34There are two: health ...
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0:36 - 0:38and caring for the forest.
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0:38 - 0:40(Music)
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0:42 - 0:44(Indigenous chanting)
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0:49 - 0:54Ricardo Ferreira: To care for the forest,
we need to care for the indigenous people, -
0:54 - 0:57who are the true guardians of the forest.
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0:57 - 1:01They are spread out in more
than 600 lands all along the Amazon, -
1:01 - 1:04and they comprise about 21% of Amazonia.
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1:05 - 1:07There are more than 400,000 Indians,
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1:08 - 1:11more than 150 languages,
cultures, and different customs. -
1:12 - 1:17Here, on this map, you can see
these areas framed in yellow: -
1:17 - 1:20these are protected areas,
the indigenous lands. -
1:21 - 1:24Where the indigenous lands are,
there is forest. -
1:24 - 1:27Here, it's very obvious;
this very dark part -
1:28 - 1:31is where there's indigenous land,
and to its side is white land. -
1:32 - 1:36To preserve this forest,
these people must continue being there. -
1:36 - 1:42When indigenous people leave the forest,
the forest falls, the forest disappears. -
1:42 - 1:48This story begins in 2002,
on a trek with a group of friends -
1:48 - 1:53who had already been trekking all over
Latin America, even around the world. -
1:54 - 1:57But this trek was different,
it was to Pico da Neblina. -
1:57 - 2:01Pico da Neblina is a mountain
on the Brazil-Venezuela border -
2:01 - 2:04where the Yanomami live,
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2:05 - 2:06who are a people that I ...
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2:06 - 2:10when I was very young, 15 years old,
my grandmother gave me a book -
2:10 - 2:13about this people's culture, as is was.
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2:14 - 2:18So, on the climb, it was very interesting
because we reached the summit, -
2:18 - 2:22and on the descent, we stopped
at a village called Maturacá. -
2:23 - 2:25Maturacá is a Yanomami village.
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2:25 - 2:27Looking at the people, we said,
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2:27 - 2:30"Holy cow! Look how many cataracts
there are in people so young." -
2:30 - 2:32Hernias, difficulty carrying ...
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2:32 - 2:35The people were happy and satisfied,
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2:35 - 2:38but they had untreated illnesses.
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2:38 - 2:42I spoke with a nurse,
"But why don't you refer these people?" -
2:42 - 2:44And she said, "We don't have
anywhere to refer them." -
2:44 - 2:48My companions were mostly doctors,
so we talked a little about this, -
2:48 - 2:53and we decided to talk with the chiefs,
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2:53 - 2:55"Look, we'll return here, bring doctors
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2:55 - 2:58and try to help you take care of this."
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2:58 - 3:01Descending from Pico da Neblina
and from Maturacá -
3:01 - 3:05took more than seven days
by boat to Manaus. -
3:05 - 3:09As you can see, it's not
the easiest route on the planet! -
3:10 - 3:15It gave us time to consider how best
to care for the guardians of the forest. -
3:15 - 3:17What to do to help them?
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3:18 - 3:21Should we take them
to a hospital in the city -
3:21 - 3:24or try to bring
the hospital to the forest? -
3:24 - 3:25And the obvious conclusion was:
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3:25 - 3:30since they're the guardians of the forest,
we bring the hospital to the forest. -
3:31 - 3:34That was when everything started in 2003.
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3:34 - 3:36We had our first expedition -
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3:36 - 3:40only 4 doctors and 100 kilos of equipment.
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3:40 - 3:42This was the first
surgical center, see it? -
3:42 - 3:46Actually, we made two expeditions
in small hospitals, -
3:47 - 3:49but the conditions weren't very good.
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3:49 - 3:52I'm an orthopedic doctor,
and I do hip and knee prostheses. -
3:53 - 3:56So, infection care is very important,
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3:56 - 3:59and the inside of those small hospitals
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3:59 - 4:01was something that didn't
please us very much, -
4:01 - 4:05so we started to invent
a mobile surgical center -
4:05 - 4:10that, after 2005, just kept getting
better and better, -
4:10 - 4:16until today, 41 expeditions
and 15 tons of equipment later ... -
4:16 - 4:18This is the super-modern
surgical center now, -
4:18 - 4:22and it has the same qualities found
in a big hospital here in São Paulo. -
4:22 - 4:25As you can see, this is
a big hospital complex. -
4:25 - 4:28Here, we have a surgical clinic,
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4:28 - 4:30along with pre-
and post-operative clinics. -
4:30 - 4:32This is a football field.
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4:32 - 4:34In the middle of Amazonia,
in the middle of a village, -
4:34 - 4:38inside a football field
is where we created all this. -
4:39 - 4:41Here's a side view.
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4:41 - 4:45It looks like a moonscape;
the Indians think this too. -
4:45 - 4:46(Laughter)
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4:46 - 4:47Because it's ...
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4:47 - 4:50the temperature is 18 degrees Celsius,
and they're not used to it -
4:51 - 4:55because the coldest it gets
in Amazonia is 25 or 27 degrees. -
4:55 - 4:59Everybody's wearing blue,
has a mask, and a cap. -
4:59 - 5:03They get really scared,
and we always have translators with us -
5:03 - 5:05because the majority
don't speak Portuguese. -
5:05 - 5:08So the hell these people are in
is a little less hot. -
5:08 - 5:12Nobody wants to go to the hospital;
they go because they need to. -
5:12 - 5:17These people go because they can't see
and can't carry weight in the forest, -
5:17 - 5:20and, for them, life is very complicated.
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5:20 - 5:22Thirteen years later,
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5:22 - 5:26we were able to return to Maturacá.
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5:26 - 5:29There were more than 30 expeditions
between our visits. -
5:29 - 5:32Maturacá is a difficult place to get to;
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5:32 - 5:35the logistics are complicated.
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5:35 - 5:39So, after some time,
we returned to Maturacá. -
5:39 - 5:43I had a nickname there, Liar,
because I had promised I would return, -
5:43 - 5:47and they had heard we'd been going
all over Amazonia, -
5:47 - 5:51doing expeditions in every corner,
and we still hadn't returned there. -
5:51 - 5:54When we returned, they accepted this well
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5:54 - 5:56and stopped calling me Liar.
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5:56 - 5:58(Laughter)
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5:58 - 6:02Along with these indigenous populations,
we learned many things. -
6:02 - 6:07We thought we were going to help them,
but we ended up learning a lot. -
6:08 - 6:10One of our experiences,
also with the Yanomami, -
6:10 - 6:12was a collective hunt.
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6:12 - 6:14So, what happened?
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6:14 - 6:19We made the decision
to make an expedition to Surucuru, -
6:19 - 6:21which is on a plateau,
in the middle of the mountains, -
6:21 - 6:24near the border of Brazil and Venezuela.
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6:25 - 6:27There were many different peoples
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6:27 - 6:31and the Surucuru people
were sorcerers and warriors - -
6:32 - 6:35bad humored people
who fought with everybody. -
6:35 - 6:37So the anthropologists ...
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6:37 - 6:39we always went with anthropologists,
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6:39 - 6:44who oriented us to the cultures,
helped us know how to comport ourselves, -
6:44 - 6:46and know how to act together
with these people -
6:47 - 6:49because their way of life
is completely different. -
6:49 - 6:54You can be uneducated
without even knowing you're uneducated. -
6:54 - 6:56On this expedition,
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6:56 - 7:00we put four or five anthropologists
in four or five lodgings -
7:00 - 7:03where they stayed,
and it was all going very well, -
7:03 - 7:09until, about the fourth or fifth day,
there was noise and yelling. -
7:09 - 7:15We didn't know what it was,
and we were still afraid of these disputes -
7:15 - 7:18of having some ... some sort of brouhaha.
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7:18 - 7:19(Laughter)
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7:19 - 7:24Then there was this rush of people
leaving with bows and arrows, -
7:24 - 7:28and with terçado, fação, and tacape,
traditional knives and weapons, -
7:28 - 7:29everybody running.
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7:29 - 7:32I didn't know what it was,
and it seemed like a mess, -
7:32 - 7:34but it wasn't, really.
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7:34 - 7:37It was a collective hunt
that they were doing together. -
7:37 - 7:42Even the enemy peoples,
who didn't fight just for their health, -
7:42 - 7:44were in the hunt to kill wild pigs.
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7:44 - 7:48So, everybody was hollering
and helping one another. -
7:48 - 7:51They surrounded the wild pigs,
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7:51 - 7:53they killed them,
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7:53 - 7:55and they divided them among everybody,
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7:55 - 8:00Then, showing that in hunger -
or in plenty, even better - -
8:00 - 8:02and in health,
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8:02 - 8:04the people were in solidarity.
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8:04 - 8:06We learned this about indigenous people:
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8:06 - 8:10they are in solidarity,
they know how to work in a collective, -
8:10 - 8:11and they are generous.
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8:12 - 8:15The second is: those who hunt, don't eat.
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8:15 - 8:16Very strange, right?
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8:16 - 8:19For the Shinanai people,
a people only recently contacted, -
8:20 - 8:26the hunter and the fisher don't eat
what they hunt and fish, never! -
8:26 - 8:29So, we keep thinking,
"But then, what's he going to do, -
8:29 - 8:33if he can't eat what he hunts
and what he catches? -
8:33 - 8:35What's the solution for this?"
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8:35 - 8:39There's only one, share knowledge;
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8:39 - 8:44teach your neighbor to hunt and fish
so everyone has this knowledge. -
8:44 - 8:48So, there are things a little difficult
for us whites to understand, -
8:48 - 8:49but they're very cool.
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8:49 - 8:52One thing that we're learning is this.
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8:52 - 8:57We're learning to not only have solidarity
with the indigenous people in the forest, -
8:57 - 9:00but also to have solidarity
among ourselves as expedition members, -
9:00 - 9:05sharing food, sharing comfort,
leaving the bathroom cleaner, -
9:05 - 9:08waiting for our neighbor, and helping
our neighbor as much as we can. -
9:09 - 9:11The third story is sharing food.
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9:12 - 9:17When they have a party,
they sit in a circle and bring food. -
9:17 - 9:21They're the gifts they give one another;
they don't have material goods. -
9:21 - 9:26They have food - so, bring the banana,
bring the watermelon, bring the coconut, -
9:26 - 9:28bring the manioc, and share it.
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9:29 - 9:32One of the nearby villages
that participated in this party -
9:33 - 9:35had a very small harvest,
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9:36 - 9:40and they were going hungry in their area.
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9:40 - 9:41So, at the party,
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9:41 - 9:44they had a little pile,
they'd brought little, -
9:44 - 9:46and the others brought lots.
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9:46 - 9:50When the time came to share,
everybody decided that they take first -
9:50 - 9:53from those who had brought little.
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9:53 - 9:57They all gathered together,
divided that food into tiny pieces, -
9:57 - 10:02and everybody took a piece,
no matter how small it was. -
10:04 - 10:07Then, when they started
to have food for the others, -
10:07 - 10:10the food of the indigenous
people who had enough, -
10:10 - 10:12everyone took a little bit
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10:12 - 10:15and left a mountain of food
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10:15 - 10:19for the ones that were hungry
to take to their village. -
10:19 - 10:22All this so they wouldn't be embarrassed
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10:22 - 10:26for taking food from ones
to whom they had not given. -
10:26 - 10:30So, you see that very slowly
they're turning the tables -
10:30 - 10:33and teaching us many things, right?
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10:33 - 10:37This woman is a xamã Suruwará;
another isolated people. -
10:38 - 10:40She had already been blind
for several years. -
10:41 - 10:43She was operated on for cataracts.
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10:43 - 10:47Cataracts are what we do most,
our flagship procedure. -
10:47 - 10:51For me, it's one of the most
spectacular surgeries there is. -
10:51 - 10:54The boys we take, who aren't really boys,
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10:54 - 10:59but older qualified surgeons,
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10:59 - 11:03do a cataract surgery in 15 to 20 minutes,
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11:03 - 11:07something like that,
and people can see again. -
11:08 - 11:12This woman said,
"You gave me back my life." -
11:14 - 11:16(Choked voice) We've had 41 expeditions,
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11:18 - 11:2050,000 medical procedures rendered
and 8,000 surgeries. -
11:20 - 11:22(Applause)
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11:41 - 11:44We've covered 500,000 square kilometers
of protected forest, -
11:44 - 11:46an area the size of France.
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11:48 - 11:50And this is our motto:
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11:50 - 11:54"Solidarity isn't a question
of altruism, but of survival." -
11:54 - 11:57People, the Amazon
is the lungs of the world. -
11:57 - 11:59We have to take care of it.
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11:59 - 12:00Because of this, our slogan is:
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12:00 - 12:03"Caring for life, preserving the forest."
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12:03 - 12:04Thank you very much.
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12:04 - 12:07(Applause)
- Title:
- Who takes care of the guardians of the forest? | Ricardo Affonso Ferreira | TEDxSãoPaulo
- Description:
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To care for the forest, one must take care of its true guardians, the indigenous peoples, because where there is an Indian, there is still forest. The NGO Expedicionários da Saúde, EDS, was founded in 2003 by orthopedic physician Ricardo Affonso Ferreira, who also heads medical expeditions, bringing health and dignity to indigenous people living in geographically isolated areas. He has helped develop a mobile surgical center that allows the provision of high-tech surgical care in remote portions of the Brazilian Amazon. The initiative has already changed the lives of more than 50,000 indigenous people in Brazil. To date, 41 expeditions have been carried out, with a total of 8,003 surgeries and 56,604 visits. The group consists of approximately 300 volunteers, and each expedition consists of 60 professionals, including doctors, nurses and logistics personnel.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
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