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Everyone around you has a story the world needs to hear

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    Tonight, I'm going to try to make the case
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    that inviting a loved one, a friend,
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    or even a stranger
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    to record a meaningful interview with you
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    just might turn out be
    one of the most important moments
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    in that person's life,
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    and in yours.
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    When I was 22 years old,
    I was lucky enough to find my calling
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    when I fell into making radio stories.
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    At almost the exact same time,
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    I found out that my dad,
    who I was very, very close to, was gay.
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    I was taken completely by surprise.
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    We were a very tight-knit family,
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    and I was crushed.
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    At some point, in one
    of our strained conversations,
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    my dad mentioned the Stonewall riots.
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    He told me that one night in 1969,
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    a group of young black
    and Latino drag queens
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    fought back against the police
    at a gay bar in Manhattan
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    called the Stonewall Inn,
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    and how this sparked
    the modern gay rights movement.
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    It was an amazing story,
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    and it piqued my interest.
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    So I decided to pick up my tape recorder
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    and find out more.
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    With the help of a young archivist
    named Michael Shirker,
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    we tracked down all
    of the people we could find
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    who had been at
    the Stonewall Inn that night.
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    Recording these interviews,
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    I saw how the microphone
    gave me the license
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    to go places I otherwise
    never would have gone
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    and talk to people I might not
    otherwise ever have spoken to.
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    I had the privilege of getting to know
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    some of the most amazing,
    fierce, and courage human beings
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    I had ever met.
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    It was the first time
    the story of Stonewall
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    had been told to a national audience.
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    I dedicated the program to my dad,
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    it changed my relationship with him,
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    and it changed my life.
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    Over the next 15 years,
    I made many more radio documentaries,
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    working to shine a light on people
    who are rarely heard from in the media.
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    Over and over again,
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    I'd see how this simple act
    of being interviewed
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    could mean so much to people,
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    particularly those who had been told
    that their stories didn't matter.
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    I could literally see
    peoples' back straighten
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    as they started to speak
    into the microphone.
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    In 1998, I made a documentary
    about the last flophouse hotels
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    on the Bowery in Manhattan.
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    Guys stayed up in these
    cheap hotels for decades.
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    They lived in cubicles
    the size of prison cells
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    covered with chicken wire
    so you couldn't jump
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    from one room into the next.
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    Later, I wrote a book on the men
    with the photographer Harvey Wang.
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    I remember walking into a flophouse
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    with an early version of the book
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    and showing one of the guys his page.
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    He stood there staring at it in silence,
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    then he grabbed the book out of my hand
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    and started running down
    the long narrow hallway
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    holding it over his head
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    shouting, "I exist! I exist."
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    (Applause)
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    In many ways, "I exist" became
    the clarion call for StoryCorps,
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    this crazy idea that I had
    a dozen years ago.
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    The thought was to take
    documentary work
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    and turn it on its head.
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    Traditionally, broadcast documentary
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    has been about recording interviews
    to create a work of art or entertainment
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    or education that is seen or heard
    by a whole lot of people,
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    but I wanted to try something
    where the interview itself
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    was the purpose of this work,
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    and see if we could give many,
    many, many people the chance
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    to be listened to in this way.
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    So in Grand Central Terminal 11 years ago,
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    we built a booth
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    where anyone can come
    to honor someone else
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    by interviewing them
    about their life.
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    You come to this booth and you're met
    by a facilitator who brings you inside.
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    You sit across from, say, your grandfather
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    for close to an hour
    and you listen and you talk.
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    Many people think of it as,
    if this was to be our last conversation,
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    what would I want to ask of
    and say to this person
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    who means so much to me?
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    At the end of the session,
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    you walk away with a copy of the interview
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    and another copy goes
    to the American Folklife Center
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    at the Library of Congress
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    so that your great-great-great-grandkids
    can someday get to know your grandfather
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    through his voice and story.
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    So we open this booth
    in one of the busiest places in the world
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    and invite people to have this
    incredibly intimate conversation
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    with another human being.
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    I had no idea if it would work,
    but from the very beginning, it did.
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    People treated the experience
    with incredible respect,
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    and amazing conversations happened inside.
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    I want to play just one animated excerpt
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    from an interview recorded
    at that original Grand Central Booth.
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    This is 12-year old Joshua Littman
    interviewing his mother, Sarah.
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    Josh has Asperger's syndrome.
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    As you may know, kids with Asperger's
    are incredibly smart
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    but have a tough time socially.
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    They usually have obsessions.
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    In Josh's case, it's with animals,
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    so this is Josh talking with his mom Sarah
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    at Grand Central nine years ago.
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    (Video) Josh Littman: From a scale
    of one to 10, do you think your life
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    would be different without animals?
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    Sarah Littman: I think it would be
    an eight without animals,
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    because they add so much pleasure to life.
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    JL: How else do you think your life
    would be different without them?
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    SL: I could do without things
    like cockroaches and snakes.
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    JL: Well, I'm okay with snakes
    as long as they're not venomous
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    or constrict you or anything.
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    SL: Yeah, I'm not a big snake person, but—
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    JL: Cockroaches is just the insect
    we love to hate.
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    SL: Yeah, it really is.
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    JL: Have you ever thought
    you couldn't cope with having a child?
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    SL: I remember when you were a baby,
    you had really bad colic,
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    so you would just cry and cry.
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    JL: What's colic?
    SL: It's when you get this stomachache
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    and all you do is scream
    for, like, four hours.
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    JL: Even louder than Amy does?
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    SL: You were pretty loud,
    but Amy's was more high-pitched.
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    JL: I think it feels like everyone
    seems to like Amy more.
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    Like, she's, like,
    the perfect little angel.
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    SL: Well, I can understand
    why you think that people like Amy more,
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    and I'm not saying it's because
    of your Asperger's syndrome,
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    but being friendly comes easily to Amy,
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    whereas I think for you
    it's more difficult,
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    but the people who take the time
    to get to know you love you so much.
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    JL: Like, Ben or Eric or Carlos?
    SL: Yeah—
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    JL: Like I have better quality friends
    but less quantity?
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    SL: I wouldn't judge
    the quality, but I think—
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    JL: I mean, like, first it was, like, Amy
    loved Claudia, Then she hated Claudia.
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    She loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia.
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    SL: Part of that's a girl thing, honey.
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    The important thing for you
    is that you have a few very good friends,
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    and really that's what you need in life.
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    JL: Did I turn out to be the son
    you wanted when I was born?
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    Did I meet your expectations?
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    SL: You've exceeded
    my expectations, sweetie,
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    because sure you have these fantasies
    of what your child's going to be like,
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    but you have made me grow
    so much as a parent, because you think—
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    JL: Well, I was the one
    who made you a parent.
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    SL: You were the one who made me a parent.
    That's a good point.
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    But also because you think differently
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    from what they tell you
    in the parenting books,
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    I really had to learn to think
    outside of the box with you,
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    and it's made me much more creative
    as a parent and as a person,
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    and I'll always thank you for that.
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    JL: And that helped when Amy was born?
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    SL: And that helped when Amy was born,
    but you are just so incredibly special to me
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    and I'm so lucky to have you as my son.
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    (Applause)
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    David Isay: After this story
    ran on public radio,
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    Josh received hundreds of letters
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    telling him what an amazing kid he was.
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    His mom, Sarah, bound them
    together in a book,
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    and when Josh got picked on at school,
    they would read the letters together.
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    I just want to acknowledge
    that two of my heroes
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    are here with us tonight.
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    Sarah Littman and her son Josh,
    who is now an honors student in college.
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    (Applause)
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    You know, a lot of people talk about
    crying when they hear StoryCorps stories,
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    and it's not because they're sad.
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    Most of them aren't.
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    I think it's because you're hearing
    something authentic and pure
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    at this moment,
    when sometimes it's hard to tell
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    what's real and what's an advertisement.
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    It's kind of the anti-reality TV.
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    Nobody comes to StoryCorps to get rich.
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    Nobody comes to get famous.
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    It's simply an act of generosity and love.
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    So many of these are just everyday people
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    talking about lives lived with kindness,
    courage, decency, and dignity,
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    and when you hear that kind of story,
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    it can sometimes feel
    like you're walking on holy ground.
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    So this experiment in Grand Central worked,
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    and we expanded it across the country.
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    Today, more than 100,000 people
    in all 50 states
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    in thousands of cities
    and towns across America
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    have recorded StoryCorps interviews.
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    It's now the largest single collection
    of human voices ever gathered.
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    (Applause)
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    We've hired and trained
    hundreds of facilitators
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    to help guide people
    through the experience.
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    Most serve a year or two with StoryCorps
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    traveling the country,
    gathering the wisdom of humanity.
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    They call it bearing witness,
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    and if you ask them,
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    all of the facilitators will tell you
    that the most important thing
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    they've learned from being present
    during these interviews
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    is that people are basically good.
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    And I think for the first years
    of StoryCorps, you could argue
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    that there was some kind
    of a selection bias happening,
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    but after tens of thousands of interviews
    with every kind of person
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    in every part of the country
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    -- rich, poor, five years old to 105,
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    80 different languages,
    across the political spectrum --
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    you have to think that maybe these guys
    are actually on to something.
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    I've also learned so much
    from these interviews.
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    I've learned about the poetry
    and the wisdom and the grace
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    that can be found in the words
    of people all around us
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    when we simply take the time to listen,
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    like this interview
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    between a betting clerk in Brooklyn
    named Danny Perasa
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    who brought his wife Annie to StoryCorps
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    to talk about his love for her.
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    (Audio) Danny Perasa: You see,
    the thing of it is,
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    I always feel guilty when I say
    "I love you" to you.
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    And I say it so often.
    I say it to remind you
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    that don't be as I am,
    it's coming from me.
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    It's like hearing a beautiful song
    from a busted old radio,
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    and it's nice of you to keep
    the radio around the house.
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    Annie Perasa: If I don't have a note
    on the kitchen table,
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    I think there's something wrong.
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    You write a love letter
    to me every morning.
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    DP: Well, the only thing
    that could possibly be wrong
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    is I couldn't find a silly pen.
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    AP: To my princess:
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    the weather outside today
    is extremely rainy.
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    I'll call you at 11:20 in the morning.
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    DP: It's a romantic weather report.
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    AP: And I love you.
    I love you. I love you.
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    DP: When a guy is happily married,
    no matter what happens at work,
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    no matter what happens
    in the rest of the day,
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    there's a shelter when you get home,
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    there's a knowledge knowing
    that you can hug somebody
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    without them throwing you downstairs
    and saying, "Get your hands off me."
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    Being married is like having
    a color television set.
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    You never want to go back
    to black and white.
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    (Laughter)
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    DI: Danny was about five feet tall
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    with crossed eyes
    and one single snaggled tooth,
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    but Danny Perasa had
    more romance in his little pinky
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    than all of Hollywood's
    leading men put together.
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    What else have I learned?
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    I've learned about the almost
    unimaginable capacity
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    for the human spirit to forgive.
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    I've learned about resilience
    and I've learned about strength.
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    Like an interview with Oshea Israel
    and Mary Johnson.
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    When Oshea was a teenager,
    he murdered Mary's only son,
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    Laramiun Byrd, in a gang fight.
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    A dozen years later, Mary went to prison
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    to meet Oshea and find out
    who this person was
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    who had taken her son's life.
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    Slowly and remarkably,
    they became friends,
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    and when he was finally released
    from the penitentiary,
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    Oshea actually moved in next door to Mary.
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    This is just a short excerpt
    of a conversation they had
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    soon after Oshea was freed.
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    (Video) Mary Johnson: My natural son
    is no longer here.
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    I didn't see him graduate,
    and now you're going to college.
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    I'll have an opportunity
    to see you graduate.
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    I didn't see him get married.
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    Hopefully one day, I'll be able
    to experience that with you.
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    Oshea Israel: Just to hear you
    say those things and to be
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    in my life in the manner
    in which you are is my motivation.
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    It motivates me to make sure
    that I stay on the right path.
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    You still believe in me,
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    and the fact that you can do it
    despite how much pain I caused you,
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    it's amazing.
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    MJ: I know it's not an easy thing
    to be able to share our story together,
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    even with us sitting here
    looking at each other right now.
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    I know it's not an easy thing,
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    so I admire that you can do this.
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    OI: I love you, lady.
    MJ: I love you too, son.
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    (Applause)
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    DI: And I've been reminded countless times
    of the courage and goodness of people,
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    and how the arc of history
    truly does bend towards justice.
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    Like the story of Alexis Martinez,
    who was born Arthur Martinez
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    in the Harold Ickes projects in Chicago.
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    In the interview, she talks
    with her daughter Lesley
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    about joining a gang as a young man,
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    and later in life transitioning
    into the woman she was always meant to be.
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    This is Alexis and her daughter Lesley.
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    (Audio) Alexis Martinez: One of the most
    difficult things for me was
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    I was always afraid that
    I wouldn't be allowed
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    to be in my granddaughter's lives,
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    and you blew that completely
    out of the water,
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    you and your husband.
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    One of the fruits of that is
    my relationship with my granddaughters.
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    They fight with each other sometimes
    over whether I'm he or she.
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    Lesley Martinez: But they're free
    to talk about it.
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    AM: They're free to talk about it,
    but that, to me, is a miracle.
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    LM: You don't have to apologize.
    You don't have to tiptoe.
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    We're not going to cut you off,
    and that's something I've always
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    wanted to just know, that you're loved.
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    AM: You know, I live this every day now.
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    I walk down the streets as a woman,
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    and I really am at peace with who I am.
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    I mean, I wish I had a softer voice maybe,
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    but now I walk in love
    and I try to live that way every day.
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    DI: Now I walk in love.
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    I'm going to tell you
    a secret about StoryCorps.
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    It takes some courage
    to have these conversations.
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    StoryCorps speaks to our mortality.
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    Participants know this recording
    will be heard long after they're gone.
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    There's a hospice doctor named Ira Byock
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    who has worked closely with us
    on recording interviews
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    with people who are dying.
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    He wrote a book called
    "The Four Things That Matter Most"
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    about the four things you want to say
    to the most important people in your life
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    before they or you die:
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    thank you, I love you,
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    forgive me, I forgive you.
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    They're just about the most powerful words
    we can to one another,
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    and often that's what happens
    in a StoryCorps booth.
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    It's a chance to have a sense of closure
    with someone you care about,
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    no regrets, nothing left unsaid,
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    and it's hard and it takes courage,
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    but that's why we're alive, right?
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    So, the TED Prize.
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    When I first heard from TED
    and Chris a few months ago
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    about the possibility of the prize,
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    I was completely floored.
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    They asked me to come up
    with a very brief wish for humanity,
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    no more than 50 words.
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    So I thought about it,
    I wrote my 50 words,
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    and a few weeks later,
    Chris called and said, "Go for it."
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    So here is my wish:
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    that you will help us
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    take everything we've learned
    through StoryCorps
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    and bring it to the world
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    so that anyone anywhere
    can easily record a meaningful interview
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    with another human being
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    which will then be archived for history.
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    How are we going to do that? With this.
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    We're fast moving into a future
    where everyone in the world
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    will have access to one of these,
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    and it has powers I never
    could have imagined 11 years ago
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    when I started StoryCorps.
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    It has a microphone,
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    it can tell you how to do things,
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    and I can send audio files.
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    Those are the key ingredients.
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    So the first part of the wish
    is already underway.
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    Over the past couple of months,
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    the team at StoryCorps
    has been working furiously
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    to create an app that will bring
    StoryCorps out of our booths
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    so that it can be experienced
    by anyone, anywhere, anytime.
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    Remember, StoryCorps has always
    been two people and a facilitator
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    helping them record their conversation,
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    which is preserved forever,
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    but at this very moment,
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    we're releasing a public beta version
    of the StoryCorps app.
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    The app is a digital facilitator
    that walks you through
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    the StoryCorps interview process,
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    helps you pick questions,
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    and gives you all the tips you need
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    to record a meaningful
    StoryCorps interview,
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    and then with one tap
    upload it to our archive
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    at the Library of Congress.
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    That's the easy part, the technology.
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    The real challenge is up to you:
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    to take this tool and figure out
    how we can use it
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    all across America and around the world,
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    so that instead of recording
    thousands of StoryCorps interviews a year,
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    we could potentially record
    tens of thousands
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    or hundreds of thousands
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    or maybe even more.
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    Imagine, for example,
    a national homework assignment
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    where every high school student
    studying U.S. history across the country
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    records an interview
    with an elder over Thanksgiving,
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    so that in one single weekend
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    an entire generation of American lives
    and experiences are captured.
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    (Applause)
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    Or imagine mothers on opposite
    sides of conflict somewhere in the world
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    sitting down not to talk
    about that conflict
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    but to find out who they are as people,
  • 18:25 - 18:26
    and in doing so,
    begin to build bonds of trust;
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    or that someday it becomes
    a tradition all over the world
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    that people are honored
    with a StoryCorps interview
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    on their 75th birthday;
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    or that people in your community
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    go into retirement homes or hospitals
    or homeless shelters or even prisons
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    armed with this app to honor the people
    least heard in our society
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    and ask them who they are,
    what they've learned in life,
  • 18:51 - 18:53
    and how they want to be remembered.
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    (Applause)
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    Ten years ago, I recorded
    a StoryCorps interview with my dad
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    who was a psychiatrist,
    then became a well known gay activist.
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    This is the picture
    of us at that interview.
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    I never thought about that recording
    until a couple of years ago,
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    when my dad, who seemed
    to be in perfect health
  • 19:19 - 19:21
    and was still seeing patients
    40 hours a week,
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    was diagnosed with cancer.
  • 19:24 - 19:27
    He passed away very suddenly
    a few days later.
  • 19:27 - 19:30
    It was June 28, 2012,
  • 19:30 - 19:34
    the anniversary of the Stonewall riots.
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    I listened to that interview
    for the first time at three in the morning
  • 19:37 - 19:39
    on the day that he died.
  • 19:39 - 19:41
    I have a couple of young kids at home,
  • 19:41 - 19:45
    and I knew that they only way
    they were going to get to know this person
  • 19:45 - 19:47
    who was such a towering figure in my life
  • 19:47 - 19:50
    would be through that session.
  • 19:50 - 19:53
    I thought I couldn't believe in StoryCorps
    any more deeply than I did,
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    but it was at that moment
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    that I fully and viscerally grasped
    the importance of making these recordings.
  • 19:58 - 20:03
    Every day, people come up to me
    and say, "I wish I had interviewed
  • 20:03 - 20:05
    my father or my grandmother or my brother,
  • 20:05 - 20:08
    but I waited too long.
  • 20:08 - 20:11
    Now, no one has to wait anymore.
  • 20:11 - 20:12
    At this moment,
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    when so much of how we communicate
    is fleeting and inconsequential,
  • 20:16 - 20:21
    join us in creating this digital archive
    of conversations that are enduring
  • 20:21 - 20:23
    and important.
  • 20:23 - 20:26
    Help us create this gift to our children,
  • 20:26 - 20:30
    this testament to who
    we are as human beings.
  • 20:30 - 20:34
    I hope you'll help us make
    this wish come true.
  • 20:34 - 20:36
    Interview a family member, a friend,
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    or even a stranger.
  • 20:38 - 20:44
    Together, we can create an archive
    of the wisdom of humanity,
  • 20:44 - 20:46
    and maybe in doing so,
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    we'll learn to listen a little more
    and shout a little less.
  • 20:50 - 20:54
    Maybe these conversations will remind us
    what's really important.
  • 20:54 - 20:57
    And maybe, just maybe,
  • 20:57 - 21:00
    it will help us recognize
    that simple truth
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    that every life, every single life,
  • 21:04 - 21:07
    matters equally and infinitely.
  • 21:07 - 21:11
    Thank you very much.
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    (Applause)
  • 21:13 - 21:15
    Thank you. Thank you.
  • 21:15 - 21:17
    (Applause)
  • 21:17 - 21:20
    Thank you.
  • 21:20 - 21:25
    (Applause)
Title:
Everyone around you has a story the world needs to hear
Speaker:
Dave Isay
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Video Language:
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Team:
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Project:
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Duration:
21:38

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