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Tonight, I'm going to try to make the case

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that inviting a loved one, a friend,

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or even a stranger

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to record a meaningful interview with you

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just might turn out be
one of the most important moments

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in that person's life,

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and in yours.

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When I was 22 years old,
I was lucky enough to find my calling

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when I fell into making radio stories.

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At almost the exact same time,

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I found out that my dad,
who I was very, very close to, was gay.

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I was taken completely by surprise.

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We were a very tight-knit family,

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and I was crushed.

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At some point, in one
of our strained conversations,

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my dad mentioned the Stonewall riots.

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He told me that one night in 1969,

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a group of young black
and Latino drag queens

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fought back against the police
at a gay bar in Manhattan

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called the Stonewall Inn,

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and how this sparked
the modern gay rights movement.

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It was an amazing story,

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and it piqued my interest.

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So I decided to pick up my tape recorder

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and find out more.

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With the help of a young archivist
named Michael Shirker,

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we tracked down all
of the people we could find

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who had been at
the Stonewall Inn that night.

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Recording these interviews,

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I saw how the microphone
gave me the license

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to go places I otherwise
never would have gone

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and talk to people I might not
otherwise ever have spoken to.

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I had the privilege of getting to know

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some of the most amazing,
fierce, and courage human beings

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I had ever met.

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It was the first time
the story of Stonewall

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had been told to a national audience.

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I dedicated the program to my dad,

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it changed my relationship with him,

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and it changed my life.

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Over the next 15 years,
I made many more radio documentaries,

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working to shine a light on people
who are rarely heard from in the media.

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Over and over again,

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I'd see how this simple act
of being interviewed

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could mean so much to people,

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particularly those who had been told
that their stories didn't matter.

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I could literally see
peoples' back straighten

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as they started to speak
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In 1998, I made a documentary
about the last flophouse hotels

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on the Bowery in Manhattan.

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Guys stayed up in these
cheap hotels for decades.

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They lived in cubicles
the size of prison cells

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covered with chicken wire
so you couldn't jump

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from one room into the next.

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Later, I wrote a book on the men
with the photographer Harvey Wang.

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I remember walking into a flophouse

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with an early version of the book

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and showing one of the guys his page.

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He stood there staring at it in silence,

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then he grabbed the book out of my hand

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and started running down
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holding it over his head

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shouting, "I exist! I exist."

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(Applause)

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In many ways, "I exist" became
the clarion call for StoryCorps,

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this crazy idea that I had
a dozen years ago.

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The thought was to take
documentary work

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and turn it on its head.

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Traditionally, broadcast documentary

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has been about recording interviews
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or education that is seen or heard
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but I wanted to try something
where the interview itself

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was the purpose of this work,

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and see if we could give many,
many, many people the chance

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to be listened to in this way.

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So in Grand Central Terminal 11 years ago,

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we built a booth

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where anyone can come
to honor someone else

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by interviewing them
about their life.

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You come to this booth and you're met
by a facilitator who brings you inside.

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You sit across from, say, your grandfather

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for close to an hour
and you listen and you talk.

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Many people think of it as,
if this was to be our last conversation,

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what would I want to ask of
and say to this person

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who means so much to me?

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At the end of the session,

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you walk away with a copy of the interview

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and another copy goes
to the American Folklife Center

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at the Library of Congress

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so that your great-great-great-grandkids
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through his voice and story.

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So we open this booth
in one of the busiest places in the world

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and invite people to have this
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with another human being.

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I had no idea if it would work,
but from the very beginning, it did.

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People treated the experience
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and amazing conversations happened inside.

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I want to play just one animated excerpt

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from an interview recorded
at that original Grand Central Booth.

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This is 12-year old Joshua Littman
interviewing his mother, Sarah.

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Josh has Asperger's syndrome.

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As you may know, kids with Asperger's
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but have a tough time socially.

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They usually have obsessions.

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In Josh's case, it's with animals,

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so this is Josh talking with his mom Sarah

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at Grand Central nine years ago.

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(Video) Josh Littman: From a scale
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would be different without animals?

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Sarah Littman: I think it would be
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because they add so much pleasure to life.

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JL: How else do you think your life
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SL: I could do without things
like cockroaches and snakes.

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JL: Well, I'm okay with snakes
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or constrict you or anything.

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SL: Yeah, I'm not a big snake person, but—

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JL: Cockroaches is just the insect
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SL: Yeah, it really is.

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JL: Have you ever thought
you couldn't cope with having a child?

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SL: I remember when you were a baby,
you had really bad colic,

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so you would just cry and cry.

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JL: What's colic?
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and all you do is scream
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JL: Even louder than Amy does?

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SL: You were pretty loud,
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JL: I think it feels like everyone
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Like, she's, like,
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SL: Well, I can understand
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and I'm not saying it's because
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but being friendly comes easily to Amy,

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whereas I think for you
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but the people who take the time
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JL: Like, Ben or Eric or Carlos?
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JL: Like I have better quality friends
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SL: I wouldn't judge
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JL: I mean, like, first it was, like, Amy
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She loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia.

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SL: Part of that's a girl thing, honey.

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The important thing for you
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and really that's what you need in life.

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JL: Did I turn out to be the son
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Did I meet your expectations?

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SL: You've exceeded
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because sure you have these fantasies
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but you have made me grow
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JL: Well, I was the one
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SL: You were the one who made me a parent.
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from what they tell you
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I really had to learn to think
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and it's made me much more creative
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and I'll always thank you for that.

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JL: And that helped when Amy was born?

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SL: And that helped when Amy was born,
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and I'm so lucky to have you as my son.

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David Isay: After this story
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Josh received hundreds of letters

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telling him what an amazing kid he was.

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His mom, Sarah, bound them
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and when Josh got picked on at school,
they would read the letters together.

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I just want to acknowledge
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are here with us tonight.

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Sarah Littman and her son Josh,
who is now an honors student in college.

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(Applause)

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You know, a lot of people talk about
crying when they hear StoryCorps stories,

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and it's not because they're sad.

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Most of them aren't.

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I think it's because you're hearing
something authentic and pure

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at this moment,
when sometimes it's hard to tell

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what's real and what's an advertisement.

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It's kind of the anti-reality TV.

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Nobody comes to StoryCorps to get rich.

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Nobody comes to get famous.

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It's simply an act of generosity and love.

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So many of these are just everyday people

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talking about lives lived with kindness,
courage, decency, and dignity,

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and when you hear that kind of story,

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it can sometimes feel
like you're walking on holy ground.

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So this experiment in Grand Central worked,

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and we expanded it across the country.

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Today, more than 100,000 people
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in thousands of cities
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have recorded StoryCorps interviews.

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It's now the largest single collection
of human voices ever gathered.

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We've hired and trained
hundreds of facilitators

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to help guide people
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Most serve a year or two with StoryCorps

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traveling the country,
gathering the wisdom of humanity.

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They call it bearing witness,

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and if you ask them,

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all of the facilitators will tell you
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they've learned from being present
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is that people are basically good.

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And I think for the first years
of StoryCorps, you could argue

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that there was some kind
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but after tens of thousands of interviews
with every kind of person

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in every part of the country

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-- rich, poor, five years old to 105,

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80 different languages,
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you have to think that maybe these guys
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I've also learned so much
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I've learned about the poetry
and the wisdom and the grace

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that can be found in the words
of people all around us

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when we simply take the time to listen,

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like this interview

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between a betting clerk in Brooklyn
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who brought his wife Annie to StoryCorps

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to talk about his love for her.

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(Audio) Danny Perasa: You see,
the thing of it is,

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I always feel guilty when I say
"I love you" to you.

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And I say it so often.
I say it to remind you

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that don't be as I am,
it's coming from me.

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It's like hearing a beautiful song
from a busted old radio,

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and it's nice of you to keep
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Annie Perasa: If I don't have a note
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I think there's something wrong.

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You write a love letter
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DP: Well, the only thing
that could possibly be wrong

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is I couldn't find a silly pen.

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AP: To my princess:

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the weather outside today
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I'll call you at 11:20 in the morning.

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DP: It's a romantic weather report.

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AP: And I love you.
I love you. I love you.

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DP: When a guy is happily married,
no matter what happens at work,

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no matter what happens
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there's a shelter when you get home,

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there's a knowledge knowing
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without them throwing you downstairs
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Being married is like having
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You never want to go back
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DI: Danny was about five feet tall

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with crossed eyes
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but Danny Perasa had
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than all of Hollywood's
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What else have I learned?

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I've learned about the almost
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for the human spirit to forgive.

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I've learned about resilience
and I've learned about strength.

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Like an interview with Oshea Israel
and Mary Johnson.

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When Oshea was a teenager,
he murdered Mary's only son,

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Laramiun Byrd, in a gang fight.

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A dozen years later, Mary went to prison

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to meet Oshea and find out
who this person was

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who had taken her son's life.

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Slowly and remarkably,
they became friends,

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and when he was finally released
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Oshea actually moved in next door to Mary.

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This is just a short excerpt
of a conversation they had

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soon after Oshea was freed.

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(Video) Mary Johnson: My natural son
is no longer here.

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I didn't see him graduate,
and now you're going to college.

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I'll have an opportunity
to see you graduate.

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I didn't see him get married.

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Hopefully one day, I'll be able
to experience that with you.

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Oshea Israel: Just to hear you
say those things and to be

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in my life in the manner
in which you are is my motivation.

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It motivates me to make sure
that I stay on the right path.

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You still believe in me,

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and the fact that you can do it
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it's amazing.

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MJ: I know it's not an easy thing
to be able to share our story together,

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even with us sitting here
looking at each other right now.

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I know it's not an easy thing,

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so I admire that you can do this.

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OI: I love you, lady.
MJ: I love you too, son.

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DI: And I've been reminded countless times
of the courage and goodness of people,

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and how the arc of history
truly does bend towards justice.

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Like the story of Alexis Martinez,
who was born Arthur Martinez

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in the Harold Ickes projects in Chicago.

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In the interview, she talks
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about joining a gang as a young man,

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and later in life transitioning
into the woman she was always meant to be.

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This is Alexis and her daughter Lesley.

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(Audio) Alexis Martinez: One of the most
difficult things for me was

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I was always afraid that
I wouldn't be allowed

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to be in my granddaughter's lives,

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and you blew that completely
out of the water,

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you and your husband.

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One of the fruits of that is
my relationship with my granddaughters.

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They fight with each other sometimes
over whether I'm he or she.

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Lesley Martinez: But they're free
to talk about it.

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AM: They're free to talk about it,
but that, to me, is a miracle.

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LM: You don't have to apologize.
You don't have to tiptoe.

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We're not going to cut you off,
and that's something I've always

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wanted to just know, that you're loved.

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AM: You know, I live this every day now.

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I walk down the streets as a woman,

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and I really am at peace with who I am.

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I mean, I wish I had a softer voice maybe,

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but now I walk in love
and I try to live that way every day.

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DI: Now I walk in love.

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I'm going to tell you
a secret about StoryCorps.

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It takes some courage
to have these conversations.

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StoryCorps speaks to our mortality.

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Participants know this recording
will be heard long after they're gone.

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There's a hospice doctor named Ira Byock

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who has worked closely with us
on recording interviews

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with people who are dying.

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He wrote a book called
"The Four Things That Matter Most"

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about the four things you want to say
to the most important people in your life

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before they or you die:

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thank you, I love you,

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forgive me, I forgive you.

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They're just about the most powerful words
we can to one another,

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and often that's what happens
in a StoryCorps booth.

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It's a chance to have a sense of closure
with someone you care about,

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no regrets, nothing left unsaid,

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and it's hard and it takes courage,

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but that's why we're alive, right?

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So, the TED Prize.

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When I first heard from TED
and Chris a few months ago

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about the possibility of the prize,

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I was completely floored.

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They asked me to come up
with a very brief wish for humanity,

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no more than 50 words.

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So I thought about it,
I wrote my 50 words,

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and a few weeks later,
Chris called and said, "Go for it."

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So here is my wish:

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that you will help us

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take everything we've learned
through StoryCorps

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and bring it to the world

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so that anyone anywhere
can easily record a meaningful interview

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with another human being

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which will then be archived for history.

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How are we going to do that? With this.

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We're fast moving into a future
where everyone in the world

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will have access to one of these,

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and it has powers I never
could have imagined 11 years ago

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when I started StoryCorps.

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It has a microphone,

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it can tell you how to do things,

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and I can send audio files.

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Those are the key ingredients.

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So the first part of the wish
is already underway.

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Over the past couple of months,

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the team at StoryCorps
has been working furiously

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to create an app that will bring
StoryCorps out of our booths

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so that it can be experienced
by anyone, anywhere, anytime.

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Remember, StoryCorps has always
been two people and a facilitator

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helping them record their conversation,

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which is preserved forever,

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but at this very moment,

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we're releasing a public beta version
of the StoryCorps app.

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The app is a digital facilitator
that walks you through

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the StoryCorps interview process,

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helps you pick questions,

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and gives you all the tips you need

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to record a meaningful
StoryCorps interview,

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and then with one tap
upload it to our archive

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at the Library of Congress.

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That's the easy part, the technology.

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The real challenge is up to you:

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to take this tool and figure out
how we can use it

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all across America and around the world,

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so that instead of recording
thousands of StoryCorps interviews a year,

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we could potentially record
tens of thousands

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or hundreds of thousands

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or maybe even more.

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Imagine, for example,
a national homework assignment

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where every high school student
studying U.S. history across the country

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records an interview
with an elder over Thanksgiving,

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so that in one single weekend

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an entire generation of American lives
and experiences are captured.

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(Applause)

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Or imagine mothers on opposite
sides of conflict somewhere in the world

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sitting down not to talk
about that conflict

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but to find out who they are as people,

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and in doing so,
begin to build bonds of trust;

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or that someday it becomes
a tradition all over the world

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that people are honored
with a StoryCorps interview

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on their 75th birthday;

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or that people in your community

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go into retirement homes or hospitals
or homeless shelters or even prisons

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armed with this app to honor the people
least heard in our society

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and ask them who they are,
what they've learned in life,

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and how they want to be remembered.

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(Applause)

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Ten years ago, I recorded
a StoryCorps interview with my dad

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who was a psychiatrist,
then became a well known gay activist.

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This is the picture
of us at that interview.

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I never thought about that recording
until a couple of years ago,

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when my dad, who seemed
to be in perfect health

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and was still seeing patients
40 hours a week,

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was diagnosed with cancer.

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He passed away very suddenly
a few days later.

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It was June 28, 2012,

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the anniversary of the Stonewall riots.

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I listened to that interview
for the first time at three in the morning

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on the day that he died.

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I have a couple of young kids at home,

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and I knew that they only way
they were going to get to know this person

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who was such a towering figure in my life

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would be through that session.

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I thought I couldn't believe in StoryCorps
any more deeply than I did,

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but it was at that moment

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that I fully and viscerally grasped
the importance of making these recordings.

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Every day, people come up to me
and say, "I wish I had interviewed

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my father or my grandmother or my brother,

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but I waited too long.

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Now, no one has to wait anymore.

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At this moment,

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when so much of how we communicate
is fleeting and inconsequential,

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join us in creating this digital archive
of conversations that are enduring

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and important.

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Help us create this gift to our children,

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this testament to who
we are as human beings.

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I hope you'll help us make
this wish come true.

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Interview a family member, a friend,

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or even a stranger.

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Together, we can create an archive
of the wisdom of humanity,

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and maybe in doing so,

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we'll learn to listen a little more
and shout a little less.

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Maybe these conversations will remind us
what's really important.

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And maybe, just maybe,

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it will help us recognize
that simple truth

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that every life, every single life,

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matters equally and infinitely.

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Thank you very much.

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(Applause)

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Thank you. Thank you.

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(Applause)

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Thank you.

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(Applause)