Facing life and death, with cancer | Kat McHale | TEDxExeter
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0:12 - 0:13Dying.
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0:15 - 0:17It's not something
we think about much, is it? -
0:19 - 0:20I'm a doctor.
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0:21 - 0:26And as a doctor, death and dying
have been part of my working life. -
0:28 - 0:34I've cared for people, young and old,
people with terminal illnesses, -
0:34 - 0:39people who've suffered
acute illnesses or tragic accidents. -
0:41 - 0:44I've lost family members and friends too.
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0:45 - 0:51But despite this, I'd never given
much thought to my own death - -
0:52 - 0:55to me dying.
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0:57 - 1:01People say, "You might
get hit by a bus tomorrow." -
1:02 - 1:05Well if my mortality was a bus,
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1:05 - 1:10it was always something I could just see
out of the corner of my eye -
1:11 - 1:12way over there.
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1:14 - 1:18I knew it was there; we all do.
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1:19 - 1:24But I would go about my daily life -
work, the shopping, the school run - -
1:25 - 1:27without giving it a second thought,
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1:28 - 1:31assuming it would remain
far off in the future, -
1:32 - 1:35not coming into full view until I'm old.
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1:38 - 1:42But what if we did
think about our own deaths? -
1:42 - 1:45Really think about it.
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1:46 - 1:48What would we do differently?
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1:48 - 1:51What would we do to prepare?
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1:51 - 1:55And how would we live that
in the everyday? -
1:56 - 1:59It all changed for me last October.
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1:59 - 2:04I was 34, with three small children,
and plans for the life ahead of me. -
2:05 - 2:09I'd noticed a lump and been
referred to the breast clinic, -
2:09 - 2:12where I had a mammogram,
ultrasound, and a biopsy. -
2:13 - 2:16I had to wait a week for the results.
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2:17 - 2:21Even though I knew
cancer was a possibility, -
2:22 - 2:24I still didn't really believe it could be.
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2:25 - 2:28So, as my husband works away from home,
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2:29 - 2:32I went to the appointment alone.
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2:34 - 2:41Suddenly that bus was right here,
right in front of me. -
2:42 - 2:43Cancer.
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2:46 - 2:51What thought I had given to my own death
had always been fairly abstract. -
2:52 - 2:55When we had our first child,
I'd done the sensible things - -
2:56 - 2:59I wrote a will, got life insurance -
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2:59 - 3:03but I never truly thought
about the reality of it. -
3:04 - 3:07The reality of the things
I might never do, -
3:08 - 3:13or the realisation that I might be
doing something for the last time. -
3:14 - 3:19Being forced to confront
our own mortality is terrifying, -
3:20 - 3:25but now, suddenly, I had to.
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3:26 - 3:28It can be hard,
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3:28 - 3:30dealing with people's reactions.
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3:31 - 3:33No one really knows what to say,
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3:33 - 3:37and sometimes I feel it's me
who needs to support them. -
3:38 - 3:40I can talk to people about my cancer
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3:40 - 3:45in a practical, matter-of-fact way
without getting upset. -
3:46 - 3:48I cry with my husband.
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3:49 - 3:53But I don't want to be
crying in front of everyone. -
3:54 - 3:57It was difficult, telling my children.
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3:58 - 4:03My girls, aged six and four,
and my little boy, who's two. -
4:04 - 4:08When I was diagnosed, I was given
a picture book called "Mummy's Lump", -
4:09 - 4:11which we read together.
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4:12 - 4:14I didn't want to hide
from them what was going on, -
4:15 - 4:19for them to know something was wrong
but to not know what it was. -
4:21 - 4:24My four-year-old
especially enjoyed the page -
4:24 - 4:27where mummy has lost all of her hair
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4:27 - 4:32and her wig is hung up
as she asks in a fit of giggles, -
4:32 - 4:34"Why's mummy taken her hair off?"
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4:34 - 4:35(Laughs)
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4:38 - 4:41People ask about my risk factors.
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4:42 - 4:44Often they are looking for reassurance,
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4:44 - 4:49for me to give them a reason
why this has happened to me, -
4:49 - 4:54to tell them, "Don't worry,
it won't happen to you." -
4:56 - 4:58But I can't.
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4:58 - 5:00I'm young.
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5:00 - 5:03I don't have a strong family history
of breast cancer -
5:03 - 5:05or any other particular risk factors.
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5:06 - 5:08I breastfed all three of my children,
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5:08 - 5:10which is protective,
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5:10 - 5:12and yet, here I am.
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5:15 - 5:18We assume bad things
always happen to other people. -
5:19 - 5:22We ask, "Why me?"
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5:23 - 5:27But from my years as a doctor,
I'm all too aware -
5:27 - 5:31that the real question is, "Why not?"
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5:32 - 5:38The truth is our lives
can change or end at any moment. -
5:38 - 5:43That bus can go
from there to here like that. -
5:44 - 5:48I've been thrown into non-stop
appointments: breast care nurses, -
5:48 - 5:52breast surgeon, plastic surgeon,
radiologist, oncologist, -
5:52 - 5:54chemotherapy nurses,
counsellor, wig fitting. -
5:55 - 6:00Even a make-up session where I learned
to fill in my thinning eyebrows. -
6:01 - 6:07There's a huge amount of information,
so many decisions to make. -
6:07 - 6:10What type of surgery to have.
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6:10 - 6:13It's hard to take it all in.
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6:15 - 6:18They told me not to rush
into any decisions, -
6:18 - 6:20decisions I might come to regret.
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6:21 - 6:25But all I want is to survive,
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6:25 - 6:29to survive to be able to have regrets.
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6:31 - 6:37As time's passed, I've realised
that the bus isn't here, -
6:37 - 6:39right in front of me.
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6:39 - 6:41It's further away.
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6:42 - 6:46I'm not going to die
tomorrow or next week -
6:46 - 6:48or even next month.
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6:49 - 6:51I can still see it though.
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6:51 - 6:56It's coming and I feel like I can't move.
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6:58 - 7:00After being told I had cancer,
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7:00 - 7:04one thought was
at the forefront of my mind: -
7:05 - 7:08What do I do now?
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7:09 - 7:12I wondered if I needed
to go to Disneyland. -
7:12 - 7:15(Laughter)
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7:16 - 7:18They don't give you a handbook
when you're diagnosed. -
7:19 - 7:25They don't say, "You've had some
terrible news, here's what to do next." -
7:27 - 7:32So I started asking people -
family, friends, hospital staff - -
7:33 - 7:35"What do I do now?"
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7:36 - 7:39Each time, the same reply:
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7:40 - 7:42"Do what's right for you."
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7:44 - 7:46But I didn't know what was right for me.
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7:47 - 7:50I'm someone who likes a plan;
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7:50 - 7:54I want to tick things off,
to know that I am making progress. -
7:55 - 7:58So I started making a list.
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7:59 - 8:01A few things immediately came to mind.
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8:02 - 8:05I finally organised
a christening for our son -
8:05 - 8:08that had been on my to-do list
since he was born two years ago, -
8:08 - 8:11but I just hadn't got around to it.
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8:12 - 8:15We didn't have any pictures
of the five of us together, -
8:15 - 8:19so I arranged for us to have some
professional family photos done. -
8:20 - 8:24I wanted to get them done quickly
before I started my chemotherapy -
8:24 - 8:27and lost all of my long dark hair.
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8:29 - 8:32We did the photoshoot
at home in our garden. -
8:32 - 8:37The photographer explained it's easier
to manage the children in a small space, -
8:37 - 8:41otherwise, we'd just end up with lots
of pictures of them running away. -
8:41 - 8:43(Laughter)
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8:43 - 8:45Even in our garden, though,
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8:45 - 8:48it was a challenge
to get them to keep still. -
8:48 - 8:52In the end, we had
to bribe them with breadsticks. -
8:53 - 8:57Friends have since commented
that that was a pretty rubbish bribe. -
8:57 - 8:58(Laughter)
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8:58 - 8:59But it worked!
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8:59 - 9:01(Laughs)
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9:02 - 9:06I struggled to come up
with a "Bucket List". -
9:06 - 9:10I spent a long time thinking about it.
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9:10 - 9:15What do I really want to do before I die?
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9:16 - 9:22But I realised I don't want to climb
a mountain or see the pyramids. -
9:23 - 9:27All I truly want is to raise my children.
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9:28 - 9:33But that isn't something
you can simply tick off a list. -
9:35 - 9:40So I thought about my children,
what I can do for them, -
9:40 - 9:43what I can leave behind
for them to remember me. -
9:44 - 9:47I thought about buying them
cards for all the milestones, -
9:47 - 9:50all the things you see cards for:
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9:50 - 9:55passing exams, driving tests,
buying a house, getting married. -
9:56 - 9:58But they might not do any of those things.
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10:00 - 10:05Unless something terrible happens,
though, they'll definitely reach 18, -
10:05 - 10:08so I've bought them all
18th-birthday presents. -
10:09 - 10:13And if I do get through this,
then I'm just being extremely organised. -
10:13 - 10:15(Laughter)
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10:17 - 10:20Now I'm writing a book for them.
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10:21 - 10:25A book with all the advice
I'd love to give them as they grow. -
10:25 - 10:27Advice from mummy.
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10:28 - 10:33There are so many things I want
to share with them, to teach them, -
10:33 - 10:37the lessons I've learnt
from my successes and failures, -
10:38 - 10:42to tell them about me and my life,
and to guide them through theirs. -
10:44 - 10:47I want to help them
to be confident and resilient, -
10:48 - 10:51to not let my illness define them.
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10:54 - 10:58We wanted to make some happy memories,
so we did go to a theme park. -
10:59 - 11:03Not Disneyland,
but one near where we live. -
11:04 - 11:05We had a fantastic time.
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11:06 - 11:09But we can't go to theme parks every day.
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11:10 - 11:14The children still need to go to school,
the bins still need to be put out. -
11:14 - 11:17The bills still need to be paid.
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11:18 - 11:22Sometimes it just feels
like I've added breast cancer treatment -
11:22 - 11:26to all of the other things
I'm trying to juggle. -
11:28 - 11:31People tell me I'm brave,
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11:32 - 11:34but I'm not.
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11:34 - 11:38I have to get on with it;
what other choice do I have? -
11:39 - 11:42I'm trying to be positive, to make plans.
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11:43 - 11:47We're hoping to take time out
from work and travel as a family. -
11:48 - 11:52But I know those plans
might not be realised. -
11:52 - 11:55I don't know what will happen.
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11:57 - 11:59I finished my chemotherapy.
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12:00 - 12:02Last week I had surgery.
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12:02 - 12:06And soon I'll start radiotherapy.
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12:06 - 12:11The statistics tell me that this
treatment plan improves survival, -
12:12 - 12:16but that's meaningless
if it doesn't work for me. -
12:17 - 12:23All of the talk of fighting,
battling, beating cancer -
12:23 - 12:29for me implies that if you don't make it,
you haven't tried hard enough. -
12:31 - 12:35As a doctor, and now as a patient,
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12:36 - 12:38I know that that's not fair.
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12:38 - 12:40It's out of my hands.
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12:43 - 12:45Even if the treatment is successful,
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12:45 - 12:49I know the cancer could
come back years later, -
12:49 - 12:52or there could be complications
from the treatment down the line. -
12:53 - 12:56I could worry about it, always.
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12:59 - 13:05I've noticed though that I've let
the bus slip back out of view. -
13:06 - 13:11When I received my diagnosis,
it was right here, right in front of me. -
13:11 - 13:15Facing it made me sick with worry.
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13:15 - 13:21I was desperate to go back to the time
when I could just get on with my life -
13:21 - 13:24without thinking about my death.
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13:27 - 13:32But now, letting it move out of sight,
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13:32 - 13:35letting go of that sense of urgency,
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13:36 - 13:38worries me too.
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13:40 - 13:44I don't want to get to the end
of my life and have regrets. -
13:47 - 13:49Having to face my own mortality
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13:49 - 13:54in many ways is helping me to focus
on what's important to me -
13:54 - 13:57and to grasp each moment.
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13:58 - 14:00I've stopped keeping things for best.
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14:01 - 14:06I wear my best clothes,
and I light my best candles. -
14:09 - 14:11We don't often talk about death.
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14:12 - 14:16And when we do, we talk
about other peoples deaths, -
14:16 - 14:20or we talk about it in an abstract way.
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14:21 - 14:25But that's not the same
as really facing it. -
14:26 - 14:30We are all going to die.
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14:31 - 14:36Any one of us could get hit
by that bus tomorrow. -
14:39 - 14:45So what if we did think about it?
Really face our own deaths? -
14:46 - 14:48What would you differently?
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14:49 - 14:51What would you do to prepare?
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14:52 - 14:57And how would you live
really knowing that you will die? -
15:00 - 15:03Everything in my life has shifted.
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15:04 - 15:08Maybe the bus will swerve, maybe it won't.
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15:09 - 15:12I can't make assumptions about my future.
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15:13 - 15:18I may not have time
to do all I want to do. -
15:19 - 15:22But that was always true,
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15:23 - 15:26I just didn't think about it.
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15:30 - 15:34For now, though, I'll cherish
each moment with my children, -
15:35 - 15:39chasing them around the garden
and bribing them with breadsticks. -
15:39 - 15:40(Laughter)
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15:40 - 15:42Thank you.
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15:42 - 15:45(Applause)
- Title:
- Facing life and death, with cancer | Kat McHale | TEDxExeter
- Description:
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How would you live if you knew you might die soon? Kat McHale has been forced to confront her own mortality since being diagnosed with breast cancer at the age of 34. In this deeply personal talk, she reflects on what’s most important in her life - and invites you to do the same.
Kat McHale is a public health doctor and mother of three young children. In October 2018, she was diagnosed with breast cancer.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- English
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- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 15:58
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