Relationships are hard, but why? | Stan Tatkin | TEDxKC
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0:29 - 0:31Relationships are difficult.
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0:32 - 0:34Everybody knows that.
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0:34 - 0:35Most people think
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0:35 - 0:41it's because of money, sex, kids,
work, or who picks up the socks. -
0:42 - 0:43Some people think
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0:43 - 0:46it's because we're just not right
for each other, -
0:46 - 0:48or we don't have enough in common.
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0:48 - 0:52Look, it's not just you, or him, or her.
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0:53 - 0:58There's actually nothing more difficult
on the planet than another person. -
0:59 - 1:01Think about that.
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1:01 - 1:03We're all difficult;
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1:03 - 1:07we all come to each new relationship
wanting easy, -
1:08 - 1:11but we also come with our fair share
of unresolved painful experiences -
1:11 - 1:14from previous relationships.
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1:14 - 1:16Between love and work,
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1:16 - 1:20love is by far,
more complex and challenging. -
1:20 - 1:25Much of the reason for this is based
in our automatic neurobiological reflexes, -
1:25 - 1:26so let me explain.
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1:27 - 1:32Let's start with that fancy neocortex
of yours, the high cortical areas. -
1:32 - 1:36For simplicity sake,
let's call them your ambassadors. -
1:37 - 1:43Your ambassadors are
very smart, deliberate, but slow; -
1:43 - 1:45and they're very expensive to run.
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1:45 - 1:50They're really good at planning,
predicting, organizing, languaging -
1:51 - 1:54and if I may be frank,
they're really good at making shit up. -
1:54 - 1:56(Laughter)
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1:56 - 2:00When you think of logic and reason,
think ambassadors. -
2:01 - 2:06The subcortical areas of your brain,
let's call them your primitives; -
2:06 - 2:11they're very fast, memory-based,
automatic, and very cheap to run. -
2:11 - 2:17They're involved in love and sex,
but also threat detection -
2:17 - 2:22by scanning for dangerous faces,
voices, gestures, movements, -
2:22 - 2:25as well as dangerous words and phrases.
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2:25 - 2:29When you think fight or flight,
think primitives. -
2:30 - 2:36Thanks to your primitives,
your day is 99% fully automatic. -
2:36 - 2:38Your ambassadors love novelty,
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2:38 - 2:41but they have to offload
newness to your primitives -
2:41 - 2:43in order to conserve resources.
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2:43 - 2:47You can't possibly run your day
with your ambassadors in full gear; -
2:47 - 2:49you would fry your brain.
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2:50 - 2:53So the primitives use something
called procedural memory, -
2:53 - 2:57otherwise known as body memory,
and it works like this: -
2:58 - 3:02you learn to ride a bike;
and in the beginning, -
3:02 - 3:07your primitives and ambassadors are
in full gear to learn this new skill, -
3:07 - 3:12but very soon, your primitives
are going to automate bike riding -
3:12 - 3:15without much need for your ambassadors.
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3:15 - 3:17It goes into procedural memory.
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3:17 - 3:19Pretty neat, huh?
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3:19 - 3:25Now you fall in love with someone,
and again, your brain is lit up; -
3:25 - 3:27you want to know everything about them.
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3:27 - 3:31You want to touch them, taste them,
smell them, you can't get enough of them. -
3:31 - 3:33You are high on drugs.
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3:33 - 3:35(Laughter)
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3:35 - 3:37Nature's drugs, not those!
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3:37 - 3:40Dopamine for wanting more,
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3:40 - 3:43noradrenaline for focus and attention,
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3:43 - 3:46testosterone for you know what,
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3:46 - 3:52and a distinct drop in serotonin
so you can perseverate and obsess. -
3:52 - 3:55You're neurochemically addicted.
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3:55 - 4:01You spend all your time together
for weeks and months; -
4:01 - 4:05you get serious, and this is
when the fun begins, -
4:05 - 4:09because very soon, your brain
is going to automate this new person -
4:09 - 4:12and theirs is going to automate you.
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4:12 - 4:13This is supposed to happen,
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4:13 - 4:16it's what the brain does
in order to function. -
4:16 - 4:20It'll make your relationship
feel a lot easier -
4:20 - 4:24and it will lead you
to your first really big mistakes -
4:24 - 4:27because you think
you know each other already -
4:27 - 4:31so you stop paying attention,
you stop being fully present. -
4:31 - 4:35Your primitives are relying on
procedural memory -
4:35 - 4:37to run your relationship,
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4:37 - 4:40and that memory includes
everyone and everything -
4:40 - 4:42of an emotional importance in your life.
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4:42 - 4:45That primitive brain of yours
is going to read -
4:45 - 4:50your partner's thoughts, feelings,
and intentions through that memory lens. -
4:50 - 4:52So it's kind of like this,
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4:54 - 4:56"Why are you giving me that look?"
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4:57 - 4:59"I didn't give you any look."
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4:59 - 5:01"Why are you using that tone
of voice with me?" -
5:02 - 5:03"What tone?"
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5:03 - 5:04- "Stop it!"
- "What?" -
5:04 - 5:06- "That."
- "What?!" -
5:06 - 5:09That's the sound
of two nervous systems misfiring, -
5:09 - 5:11and that is our nature.
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5:11 - 5:13(Laughter)
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5:13 - 5:16That will happen, and it will be a problem
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5:16 - 5:20if you don't understand
your automatic brain. -
5:20 - 5:22As a couple's therapist,
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5:22 - 5:26I can tell you that fighting
in and of itself is inevitable. -
5:26 - 5:29There is no relationship without conflict.
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5:29 - 5:32In fact, if you are a conflict avoider,
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5:32 - 5:35you will appear
threatening to your partner. -
5:35 - 5:38The real problem isn't that you fight.
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5:39 - 5:44It's when you do, one or both of you
threatens to leave the relationship. -
5:44 - 5:47A relationship can survive fights,
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5:47 - 5:51but what it cannot survive
is loss of safety and security. -
5:53 - 5:58Communication, memory,
perception - all error-prone. -
5:58 - 6:01Human communication,
even on a good day, is terrible. -
6:01 - 6:04We're mostly misunderstanding
each other much of the time; -
6:04 - 6:07when we feel good,
we don't care that much, -
6:07 - 6:09when we don't feel good,
we care a whole lot. -
6:09 - 6:11(Laughter)
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6:11 - 6:17When stress goes up, human communication
gets a whole lot worse. -
6:18 - 6:19Memory is unreliable.
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6:21 - 6:25Memory is faulty, folks,
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6:25 - 6:30and in a fight for whose memory is right,
you're probably both wrong. -
6:31 - 6:34Your perceptions
are like fun house mirrors. -
6:34 - 6:36Your perceptions are
constantly being altered -
6:36 - 6:39by your state of mind
and your memory. -
6:39 - 6:41They're constantly playing tricks on you.
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6:42 - 6:43If we assume
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6:43 - 6:48our communication, our memory,
our perception is the real truth, -
6:48 - 6:52that's hubris,
and that will get us into trouble. -
6:53 - 6:57Before I go on, I want
to be clear about threat: -
6:57 - 7:01if you're in an abusive relationship,
you must get out. -
7:01 - 7:05I'm not talking about big T threat;
only small T threat, -
7:06 - 7:09the kind that we have to deal with
day in and day out -
7:09 - 7:12as we bump up
against each other, and we fight. -
7:13 - 7:16But why do our fights spin out of control?
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7:17 - 7:20It's because real time is too fast,
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7:20 - 7:24and when we feel threatened,
we act, and react with our primitives. -
7:24 - 7:27Our ambassadors actually
have no idea how we got into this place. -
7:27 - 7:29It's what makes shit up!
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7:29 - 7:30(Laughter)
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7:30 - 7:31"I'm right, dammit,
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7:31 - 7:35and here's what sounds
really good to prove my point." -
7:35 - 7:36(Laughter)
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7:37 - 7:40You really have no idea
what you're talking about -
7:40 - 7:42(Laughter)
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7:42 - 7:44but you sound so confident.
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7:44 - 7:46(Laughter)
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7:49 - 7:52I want to get to the fun part here.
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7:53 - 7:58Since all of you literally carry around
your own neurobiology lab with you, -
7:58 - 7:59wherever you go;
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8:00 - 8:04here's a few experiments you can run
in the comfort of your own home: -
8:06 - 8:10the next time
a relationship moment turns tense, -
8:10 - 8:11change your position;
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8:11 - 8:15go eye-to-eye and face-to-face,
notice what happens. -
8:16 - 8:17And by the way,
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8:17 - 8:20if you tend to fight a lot
while driving in the car, -
8:20 - 8:24it's because you're
side-to-side and glance; -
8:24 - 8:26a glance is a threat trigger,
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8:26 - 8:29that's why you should never fight
in the car, or on the phone, -
8:29 - 8:32or while emailing, or while texting.
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8:32 - 8:35We're visual animals,
and we need our eyes -
8:35 - 8:39in order to regulate
each other's nervous systems. -
8:43 - 8:46I want you to understand
that what I'm talking about here -
8:46 - 8:49happens to everyone,
regardless of personality, -
8:50 - 8:55previous experience,
and relationship experience, or trauma. -
8:55 - 8:57No angels, no devils here;
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8:57 - 9:01we're all capable of becoming
threatening, even to those we love, -
9:01 - 9:05and we're capable of making
huge mistakes and errors -
9:05 - 9:09in communication, memory, and perception;
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9:09 - 9:10all of us.
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9:13 - 9:16The decision to be in a relationship,
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9:16 - 9:20the decision to be
in a committed relationship -
9:20 - 9:22- loving, secure functioning -
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9:22 - 9:25means being in the foxhole together
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9:25 - 9:28and protecting each other
from the dangers out there. -
9:28 - 9:31It's not just about getting our own way.
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9:32 - 9:34We're supposed to have each other's backs.
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9:36 - 9:39I've seen far too many relationships
end before their time, -
9:39 - 9:42because people cannot get
this simple concept; -
9:43 - 9:49our major job is to protect each other
and make each other feel safe and secure. -
9:50 - 9:54The world is a dangerous place,
it's always been so; -
9:54 - 9:57and right now, it feels a little scary.
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9:58 - 10:02If we don't have
each other's backs, who will? -
10:02 - 10:05Thank you and good luck
with your relationships. -
10:05 - 10:06(Applause)
- Title:
- Relationships are hard, but why? | Stan Tatkin | TEDxKC
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This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
Relationships are hard. But what if it's not you or them or sex, money or even who picks up the socks. What if there is a far more primitive reason?
In this talk, relationship expert Stan Tatkin explores why we fight from the perspective of neuroscience – and how to give your relationship a fighting chance.
Stan Tatkin, PsyD, MFT, is a clinician, researcher, teacher, and developer of A Psychobiological Approach to Couple Therapy® (PACT). He has a clinical practice in Calabasas, CA, where he has specialized for the last 15 years in working with couples and individuals who wish to be in relationships. He and his wife, Tracey Boldemann-Tatkin, developed the PACT Institute for the purpose of training other psychotherapists to use this method in their clinical practice.
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- Duration:
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Peter van de Ven
1.51 shut->shit
Peter van de Ven
7.27 It's why it makes shit up.
Peter van de Ven
7.31 to 7.35 should be within the quotes opened at 7.30
"I'm right, dammit, and here's what sounds really good to prove my point."
'Here's what sounds really good' is an illustration of the ambassadors making shit up, imho.
Peter van de Ven
Cool talk!
Sarah El_Gayyar
I can't edit the subtitles anymore and I don't know why.
The "edit subtitles" button doesn't work.
Ivana Korom
Thanks for reporting, Peter, the transcript has been updated!