24th Health Teaching Workshop Mar 24 2015. Subtitles.

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(EK) Hello everybody.

It’s me Eliya, and nice
to be with you on the

24th Keshe
foundation Health Workshop.

Today’s subject is the glands, the
regulators of the subtle levels.

Next slide.

in the first slide I want to
represent to you the sense organs.

As we passed through all the workshops
and now we are aware of them,

we have five sense organs that
produce in us different senses.

We have eyes, ears,
taste, smell, and touch.

All the sensitivity that we get from
the fields and impulses and the

matter of everything that surrounds
us, we receive with our sense organs.

They produce in our matter
state specific nerve impulses

and interact with our
control centre, our brain.

How does everything in our body
involved in this actually happen?

We have several regulation systems in
our body and, to be able to exist in

the world, we’re supposed to be human
beings far away from equilibrium.

Equilibrium meaning when two systems
are identical in their conditions.

So our being, to be an
independent system, is

supposed to be far away
from equilibrium with the

environment [for example
when the environment outside

is 10°C our body is supposed
to be 37°C inside].

And in medical language that
stable state we call homeostasis.

0:08:35 Homeostasis is
the stable operating

condition in the internal
environment [continuously

being maintained by
adjustments by the body]

when the outside
environment changes.

We have three components that interact
for our being to be in homeostasis.

We receive stimuli from the
environment through receptors.

For example a receptor
may be the nerve endings

in the skin, or the
olfactory bulb in our nose.

The next point of the regulation is to
make an impulse representing what the

receptor receives from outside in
order to send it to the ‘integrator’.

The brain has the role of
integrator in our body.

Then the next regulation
comes to the ‘effector’.

The effector is our
muscles and our glands.

When the effector reacts to the
impulse, our entire being has

responded to the impulse of what
we have received from outside.

And different impulses that
we receive have different

regulations from our
integrator, our brain.

Next slide.

0:10:16 this is a representation for you
that all our life is a feedback loop.

We get an impulse – for example a banana
– and we have several options to react.

We get the impulse through our
receptors, and then we send the

impulse to the integrator to
analyse what we are actually

receiving from the environment,
in this case the shape,

colour, smell, taste, and
tactile feeling of the banana.

But we already know, so our brain just
organises all that information that

comes through our sense organs and
then sends an impulse to the effector.

The effector in the sense of our muscles
takes the banana, tastes the banana.

The effector in the sense of our
glands produce different enzymes,

hormones, and mediators to be able
to digest that kind of matter.

And then we respond from all
our being we like banana, we

don’t like the banana, or we
just throw out the banana.

This is the response of our whole system.

So actually we have several
regulations in the sense

of the positive and negative
feedback in our system.

In the section below the banana
section, we see two graph lines that

are representations of how the
system accepts, and how the inner

correlation of the homeostasis system
starts to react to that impulse

to be sure to keep our system
compensated for outside conditions.

0:12:11 So from the
beginning we have just a

little slow answer, and
during the time we close

the sense and close the
reaction from the body

to the settle-point, the
settle-point is our

response and our reaction,
or our state, when

homeostasis in our system
settles and we are

compensated for outside
conditions for our human

body, which means that we
are alive and not dead.

When we have constant unchanged
parameters, identical to the environment

around us, it means that we are
dead, like a physical body.

How far away [how appropriately
compensated] we are from the parameters

around us means we are that much
in the state of a living being.

On the right side you see
the diagram when our body

is not able to settle in
homeostasis inside of us.

This means that not all the
regulation systems are

able to overcome the impulse
that we get from outside.

And then we have two
choices: aggravation of the

symptoms, or just to
float in a frozen state.

The two results are not healthy states.

They produce some kind
of symptoms in our body.

Next slide.

The next slide illustrates
that feedback loop.

There are four elements
in that loop, the

receptor – this is the
sense organ of which

I told you we have five – then we have a
stimulus that evoked the response from

the receptor, and then
we have the effector

organ – this is the
organ that acts on

the response – and then
we have the response,

the action effected
by the effector.

0:14:33 If you were to compare with
a more technical diagram, you see

this is completely similar to what
we use in technical science when

we construct, for example, the
line of a current or some kind of

machines that follow each other –
some more technical point of view.

The same organisation of the control
system we have in our body.

Next slide.

This is a more technical view showing
that we have negative feedback,

we have dual negative feedbacks
– this is the same as you do

in the coupling in the current line,
and when you couple the cables

one-by-one or you couple the
cables simultaneously in parallel.

In different systems in our body we are
able to have combinations of negative and

positive feedback or
only positive or only

negative feedback, or
dual positive feedback.

0:16:00 On the right
side is a representation

of the central
hypothalamic control.

And, as you see, the
thalamus is the main control

organ inside of our brain,
controlling secretion

of each hormone leading
to the regulation of

all other glands and
systems in our being.

Actually the regulation from
the thalamus to the end is a

compilation of all those
feedbacks, positive feedbacks,

negative feedbacks, dual
negative feedbacks, positive

and negative feedbacks, and
dual positive feedbacks.

That’s actually why it
is a very complicated

job to reach homeostasis
in our being.

Everything is regulated in our brain.

Next slide.

This is an example of the
positive feedback and

negative feedback in our
body, just simple examples.

On the left side is the loop
in the endocrine system.

So a regulation starts from our
hypothalamus – this is the secretion

of releasing hormones that
trigger the pituitary gland, and

the pituitary gland starts to
produce the strophic hormones,

regulatory hormones for each gland
beyond the pituitary gland.

Then from the peripheral
glands we have negative

feedback to the pituitary and
directly to the thalamus.

And also we have a short loop between
the pituitary and the thalamus.

In that sense, this is a
presentation that here in the

endocrine system we have
negative feedback control.

0:18:18 On the right side you see
the positive feedback control.

This is regulation of body temperature.

What is actually happening?

When you get a flu, for example,
your body raises its temperature.

That leads to triggering temperature
receptors in your brain.

Then your brain starts to inform
other organs what they’re

supposed to do to reach the
homeostasis state in the body.

So we have sweating, we
have an expansion of the

skin capillary walls,
and we get shivering.

After that we have the next level
of regulation: we decrease the

heat-loss, we decrease heat
production – and decreasing the heat

production just to be sure that
we will manage the cold that we

take in just to react with
increasing the heat inside of us.

And this is the positive
triggering the body temperature.

So, as you see, we have
different regulations

even on the level
of the organs,

on the level of the functional systems,
and between the functional systems.

And between the functional
systems the main

regulator organ of them
all, which is our brain.

Next slide.

0:20:00 Our nervous system,
through the sense organs

and fields, accepts information
from outside and then

reacts with our body and
informs another regulatory

systems that we have, which
is the endocrine glands.

Endocrine glands exist to
make sure that the signal

from the nervous system reaches
every cell in our body.

So what is the meaning of ‘gland’?

Glands are organs in animal bodies
that synthesise substances,

such as hormones, for
release, into the bloodstream

as do the endocrine glands,
or into the cavities in the

body, or onto the outer surface
as do the exocrine glands.

On the left side you see
the exocrine glands.

Exocrine glands include the sweat
gland, salivary gland, mammary gland,

ceruminous gland, lacrimal gland,
sebaceous gland, and mucous gland.

The liver and pancreas are
both exocrine and endocrine

glands; they have more
complicated functions.

They are exocrine glands
because they secrete

by way of the hepatic
and pancreatic ducts.

They secrete hormones and enzymes
for the digestive system.

Endocrine glands include the pineal,
pituitary, endocrine pancreas,

ovaries, testicles, thyroid, parathyroid,
hypothalamus, and adrenal glands.

These isolated cell clusters also
have secretions of hormones.

They belong: to the heart – this is
inside the arterial part – to the

gastro-intestinal tract, to the placenta,
kidney, thymus, skin, and adipose tissue.

So actually endocrine
glands are a refined

system of control that
receives the impulses

from the nervous system
and re-sends the

impulses through all the
endocrine glands to the

exocrine glands, because
ultimately the exocrine

glands are supposed to
separate the next level

of regulation which is
mostly at the place

where the exocrine gland
is supposed to work.

Next slide.

0:23:00 This slide
concerns the interaction

between the regulation
in the endocrine system.

We have autocrine interaction.

This is when we
secrete different

neurotransmitters or
different hormones and

they run in one place between the
amount of cells with the same function.

When we have paracrine interaction,
this means we have a messenger cell.

One messenger cell goes to the
place and starts to interact

with different cells there and
carries inside it hormones

and neurotransmitter molecules
just to relay the message

from the nervous system or
from the main endocrine gland.

0:24:04 Endocrine coupling
is when the gland

secretes the messenger
molecules into the

bloodstream, and those
messenger molecules

reach target cells
through the bloodstream.

So this means we have
messenger transport for

a long distance through
the bloodstream.

Also we are able to have a
contact-depending reaction,

when two cells interact
through their receptors.

This is when we have coupling and
messenger control over short

distances between just two
cells, or three cells maximum.

And we have neuro messenger control, which
happens in our central nervous system.

This is through the coupling between
the target cell and neurotransmitter

molecules in conjunction between
the axon and the target cell.

This is again not so long
distance messenger regulation.

Next slide.

These are different shapes
of the exocrine glands.

The exocrine glands have
different shapes according

to the location where
the gland functions.

Mostly they look like a tree, they have
branches and they have a common duct.

That common duct always has an
entrance in some kind of surface.

It can be epithelium, it can be
skin, or it can be some cavity.

0:26:02 So, as you see, this
is like an explanation that

you had in the previous
workshop of the ductile system.

And depending on how much
surface it’s supposed to

cover the more or less
alveoli it has around it.

It has the specific
epithelium inside the duct.

It again depends on where that exocrine
is located and which functional system.

And as you see, they are very
similar to the shape of a reactor.

They have positioning
between different ducts and

between different alveoli
which is very specific,

again, to the functional
system and the place

where the exocrine gland
is supposed to work.

Next slide.

This is an internal view
of an exocrine gland.

As you see, we have like a
head, a capillary vessel,

this is the bloodstream that
takes over, or takes in,.

Different kinds of messenger molecules.

We have a specific epithelium
inside of the duct.

And in the hole we have a liquid
that contains the ions and water.

Again you see that is the
shape of the reactor.

So that epithelium secretes different
hormones and messenger molecules, they

collect in the duct, and they go out as
a secretion through the common duct.

For the exocrine gland
we have a tubule system.

And like a head we have
a capillary vessel.

For the endocrine gland, for example, you
see that the capillary is round like a

cycle, and inside of the capillary cycle
we have a number of endocrine cells.

0:28:12 So actually in that sense you
have four entrances of that reactor,

if you may compare the shape again,
and actually the transitional

matter for you will be the bloodstream
all around the cycle, and

inside of that cycle you have the
cells of the endocrine gland.

On the bottom of the slide you see again
different shapes of the exocrine glands.

Again, this depends on where they exist.

And, as you know, their
location in our body is

very important because in
different parts we take

different kinds of GANSes,
we transform different

kinds of GANSes, we accept
different kinds of matter.

So you know that the shape of the reactor
depends on the function of that reactor.

In the same way, the shapes of
the exocrine glands depend on

the function they’re supposed
to do – to contain or re-send

some kind of state – and where
they are – in the digestive

system, in the respiratory
system, or inside of some organ.

Next slide.

On the left side represents
how many different

kinds of epithelium
we have in our body.

Epithelium is the surface
that covers all the holes,

all the capillaries, vein
vessels, lymphatic vessels,

inside of our digestive system,
inside of our respiratory

system, inside of our
mouth, inside of our nose.

Everywhere we have a different
kind of epithelium,

this is again related
to the function.

0:30:15 And, because of the
shape of the epithelium,

we have a specific shape
of exocrine gland.

So mostly exocrine glands are somewhere
in the middle of epithelium cells.

And, because of the
shapes of epithelium, we

have the different shapes
of exocrine glands.

So actually they take impulses from
endocrine gland and re-send the

information to some surface, and
that surface reacts to the impulse

from the nervous system or re-sends
the impulse from outside to the

endocrine system and the endocrine
system to the nervous system.

Secretion from the exocrine
glands happens in three ways.

It can be through the membrane of the
cells of the gland, it can be separation

of the halves of the cell, or it can
be a destruction of all the cells.

This is again depending on the
shape of the molecules where they

originate from that exocrine gland
and what they’re supposed to do.

Next slide.

In this slide you see that there can
even be a single-cell exocrine gland.

For example this is a goblet
cell in the mucous membrane.

We can have a spiral-shape of the
ducts, as you see in the green.

This is called the multi-celled
coiled simple duct.

For example, this is the
sweat gland in the skin.

There can also be a shape with a sphere
on the bottom and a duct on the top.

This is a multi-cell acinar
simple duct, and mostly

this is the subcutaneous
gland, also in the skin.

0:32:38 On the right side
you see that we also have

bigger glands with the
function of exocrine glands.

This is our salivary gland
inside of our mouth.

They secrete our saliva, which is very
important to the beginning of the

digestion and also to make sure that
we have a moist state in our mouth.

Another exocrine gland
is our mammary gland

that we spoke of in the
previous workshop.

As you see, the secretion
occurs when a part of the cells

just separates with the
secretion granules inside.

Another one is the subcutaneous
gland in the skin.

Th cells inside of
that exocrine gland

actually self-destruct
during their secretion.

0:34:10 The biggest organ in our body
is our skin, with a lot of functions.

The skin separates us
from the environment.

This is our coat, our shielding.

This is the nano layering
epidermis, with derma, with

secretion of different kinds
of enzymes, hormones,

pheromones, has the sweat
glands as separate glands,

the hair follicles – our
skin has a lot of functions.

It also produces the moist
surface beyond the epithelium.

The sweat gland and the
sebaceous gland actually have a

specific shape, as you see
in the middle of that slide.

And, if you remember, this is the
same shape as you have in the kidney.

This is the shape of the glomeruli.

And on the right side you see the
organisation inside of those two glands.

This is the same as the glomeruli.

You have acinus – this
is like the Bowman's

capsule, then you
have mucous tubules,

and then you have a collective duct,
and then you have the end of the duct.

And as you see, even the
chemical reaction inside of that

gland is the same as the tubule
structure of your glomerulus.

There is very high
similarity between the

sweat gland and the
glomeruli in our kidneys.

Next slide.

0:36:12 This is the pancreas.

As I told you, this
is a combined gland

that contains endocrine
and exocrine parts.

On the right side you see a small
picture of the bloodstream cycle

in the vessels, and inside are the
cells of the endocrine pancreas.

Actually this is the smaller part.

And the endocrine pancreas
has a coupling of that

number of units that you
see on the top right.

The exocrine pancreas, again,
has a tubular structure.

This is visible on the upper right side.

Actually in the middle we have the
endocrine part of our pancreas,

and outside is the tubular structure
of the exocrine pancreas.

See, such a beautiful combined
gland with so many functions.

And as you see, the shape of
the pancreas is like a leaf.

In the next slide you will
see that each unit of

all the endocrine glands
have a shape a leaf,

always surrounded by the
circulatory system, and

inside a number of cells
of that endocrine gland.

Next slide.

This is just to show the similarity in the
functions of all the exocrine glands.

Actually they perform the ion transport
everywhere where they exist.

0:38:17 On the left side you
see the salivary gland.

Again we have the pumping
system of potassium, sodium,

carbonates, and chlorine, and
the generation of the hydrogen.

On the right side you see
the exocrine pancreas

tubules and, for one-hundred-forty
molecules of the

bicarbonates, you take in
one-hundred-thirty-five of

the chlorine into the lumen
of the exocrine gland.

The exocrine glands always continuously
perform the ion transport between

the cells or between some membranes,
between the surface and lumen.

So actually when the
endocrine gland sends

information, the exocrine
gland takes care of

the environment where
they exist to make sure

that the signals reach
each cell through it.

Next slide.

This slide shows a regulation
of an exocrine gland.

Actually they get regulation
through the messenger molecules

from endocrine glands and
through the nervous system

through the sympaticos and
parasympaticos parts [sympathetic

nervous system and
parasympathetic nervous system].

The sympaticos and parasympaticos
parts of the nervous system

belong, as you remember, to the
physical part of our brain.

Actually the exocrine
glands are the part of the

glandular system that belongs
to the physical part.

They react to the matter state and
actually operate on the matter state.

As the sympaticos and
parasympaticos parts of the

nervous system operate
on the physical part.

Next slide.

0:40:40 This slide shows how the impulses
go in two directions through the

parasympathetic and sympathetic parts
of the architectonic nervous system.

So the two parts start at the spinal cord
and they have a pathway to the ganglion.

In the ganglion we have
the secretion of the

transmitter molecules of
acetylcholine norepinephrine

and, depending on which organ they reach,
those nerve transmitters just go through.

The parasympathetic mostly slows down
the processes inside of some functional

systems, and the
sympaticos part just

increases the action
in functional systems.

This is very much correlated
with the adrenal gland.

On the bottom of the slide
I just gave you some

technical explanations
just to see the similarity

how everything in our
body is easily comparable

to simple things that we
do in our daily life.

For example, this is a very
simple current-coupling

that you have in your
electricity system.

So the same we have in our nervous system
and in our regulations between the nervous

system and the exocrine
system, or the endocrine

system and the organs
that it belongs to.

Next slide.

0:42:30 The next part of our
regulation is the endocrine system.

This has a great
number of glands,

functions, and the
regulation system in it.

This would take hours
to explain everything

precisely, so that’s
why I’ll just

give you a summary for you to have an
idea what our endocrine system contains.

The main part of our
endocrine system, the boss

of our endocrine system,
is the hypothalamus.

When the hypothalamus receives a
signal it informs the pituitary gland.

The pituitary gland contains two
parts, anterior and posterior, and

these two parts of the pituitary
gland secrete different hormones.

The different regulator hormones reach
different peripheral endocrine glands.

In the periphery we have
the thyroid glands,

parathyroid glands, we
have the thymus, we

have the adrenal gland,
ovaries, testicles, and

cells that behave like
an endocrine gland.

All that regulation takes place
because of the secretion of different

hormones, increasing or decreasing
the function of the pituitary.

In the same way, the pituitary
releases the increasing-

or decreasing-function hormones
to the peripheral glands.

0:42:28 They have
negative feedback, as you

see, to the pituitary
or directly to the

hypothalamus, and the
pituitary has negative

feedback directly to
the hypothalamus.

Actually the endocrine system
belongs to, and is ruled by, the

emotional part of the brain,
the hypothalamus and thalamus.

For comparison, the exocrine system is
ruled by the physical part of our brain.

So actually our brain – as we
separate the physical and emotional

parts – the next level of regulation
splits the glands into two

parts, endocrine and exocrine,
to make sure the next level of

regulation is complete, not mixing
signals between the systems.

Next slide.

This slide is a representation
of where the different

kinds of endocrine glands
take shape in our body.

So you see our thalamus and pituitary
are in our head, then in our neck the

thyroid gland, in two sides of our
thyroid gland is our parathyroid gland.

Then below is the thymus
– here it is not shown,

then the adrenal gland
is above the kidney.

The pancreas is behind the stomach.

Then we have the ovaries and testicles.

And as you see, the shape,
in each endocrine gland,

the unit that contains the
cycle of the bloodstream,

and inside of that cycle
the endocrine cells

have the shape of a leaf,
exactly like a leaf.

0:46:36 And on the right side we have a
comparison to show that the endocrine

glands produce the messenger molecules
and send them to the bloodstream and

take care of the flow of those messenger
molecules to reach different parts

of the body, and exocrine glands just
take care of the surface around them.

Next slide.

These are the different types
of endocrine gland stimuli.

They are not only
stimulated by the pituitary

gland, but have a humoral
stimulation too.

This is regarding the number of ions they
have in them or take from the bloodstream.

First you see the humoral
stimulation in the thyroid

gland and on the thyroid
gland, the parathyroid gland.

If we have a low calcium
level in the blood,

that triggers the
parathyroid gland to

secrete a hormone is
to make sure that the

level of calcium in the
blood is corrected.

So that is the meaning
of humoral stimulation.

0:48:21 Also we can
have neuro stimulation.

For example, when we get
an impulse directly

from the spinal cord
to the adrenal gland.

If we see a lion, our eyes directly give
the information to the thalamus, the

thalamus sends a message to the spinal
cord that we’re supposed to react.

And our adrenal gland
starts to secrete the

adrenalin – this is the
hormone of stress –

and all of our being
starts to organise to the

emergency situation,
to react immediately.

So to have immediate response,
we have to use the nervous

system, because the speed
of nerve signals is high.

When we have a medium-priority
response we use

our endocrine system, with
the bloodstream, with

messenger molecules that
slowly travel through the

bloodstream reach each cell
of the effector organ.

But if we need to react immediately,
it is through the nervous system.

Next slide.

This is a representation of
how the thalamus rules the

pituitary gland and has direct
control of the adrenal gland.

The adrenal gland directly
gives information

from the central
nervous system because

that gland is supposed
to organise our being

for a sudden, acute
reaction for survival.

The pituitary gland, as you see,
rules all other peripheral glands.

0:50:17 On the right side
you see that the glands

have different shapes
according to where they are.

Some of them are like spheres, for
example ovaries and testicles, some of

them are pyramidal structure, like our
adrenal gland and our thyroid gland.

This is like two kidneys
connected in-between

in the same shape
like a thalamus.

Actually when you see the similar
shape of the glands or a

part of our body, it means
these two parts are connected

in they’re functions or they
interact in their functions,

or they react to similar
stimuli from the environment.

Next slide.

This slide represents how the regulation
goes through the spinal cord in the

sympathetic and parasympathetic neuro
systems, how impulses go through.

The spinal cord and all the
plexuses that they form – as you

know, we have the spinal cord and
all the ganglia – emerge from

between all the vertebrae, and
from those ganglia all the

nerve beginnings are formed, and
they actually have a plexus.

And we have several plexuses
throughout our body.

These are control points
of the nerve signals.

And from there the nerves split
off and go to each organ.

0:52:20 In Eastern medicine, most of those
plexuses are the places of our chakras.

And we start with the
base centre, this is the

plexus on the bottom end
of the spinal cord.

And then we have the sacral
plexus, sacral chakra.

This is explained as the back
entrance of the second chakra.

Then we have the celiac plexus,
which is the solar plexus.

Then is the heart centre
with the cardiac plexus.

Everywhere where we have the
plexuses, the combination

of the nerves, is a
representation of the centre.

And as you see in the middle of
that slide, that regulation in the

gland systems, endocrine and exocrine,
is complex and multi-levelled.

This is actually not that simple,
it regards what kind of stimulus

we will take into our body and
which system should react first.

And as you see, this is
really by complicated, which

one will inform the others
and will cause the positive

feedback or the negative feedback,
or the double negative,

or the double positive,
or combination of them.

This is like one microchip
inside of us that rules all

the functions in our body,
all the functions of the

functional systems, cells,
everything – really such

a complicated regulation
but actually so perfect.

Next slide.

0:54:22 This is a little different
representation for you.

This is a representation on
the left side of the slide,

of when you accept yourself
as a soul, like a self.

And yourself contains your mind,
your heart, and your body.

And your soul is you, this is true you.

But your mind, your heart area, and your
body are representations of yourself.

So actually you have three main centres.

These are: inside of
your head that contains

your desires, your
thoughts; your heart that

contains your love,
your emotions; and your

body centre, which
contains your reactions.

Each of these three centres
rules three more centres.

And actually on that
basis, this is a

representation of the chakra
system in our century.

Two scientists developed
this theory, and they made

a comparison between
Sophism, Buddhism, Hinduism,

and Chinese medicine, and
then explained in a more

scientific manner how these
centres actually form.

They are placed throughout all the nerve
plexuses that we have on the spinal cord.

Next slide.

0:56:15 You are familiar with this, as I
showed it to you in the previous workshop.

This is how another two more
scientists represented the

emotional anatomy and the
geometry of our consciousness.

In relation to the previous
slide, you see that our

consciousness actually forms
the shape of our body.

And if you compare with
the places of our glands

you find that the locations
of our endocrine

glands are on the level
of each nerve plexus, and

each nerve plexus in
terms of energy anatomy.

This is a representation
of the chakra centre – you

see how everything is very
closely related, like

our consciousness forms our
body, and the function

of our material body also
causes our consciousness.

And we have one more representation and
graduation of the endocrine glands from

two other scientists that represents our
endocrine system with a different view.

For example, the testicles and ovaries are
related to mercy, the adrenal glands are

related to the ruler
of your life, the

pancreas is related to
the giver, the thymus

is related to the exhorter, the thyroid is
related to the teacher, the pituitary is

related to the servant, and the pineal and
thalamus are related to the prophet state.

So actually on the endocrine
level we are able to see

a representation of all
the universal knowledge.

And thus we are able
to compare one cell’s

function to the function
of the whole nervous

system and all the nervous
system and endocrine

system to the function
of our consciousness.

This is all from my side.

Thank you for your attention.

If you have questions please ask me.

Thank you.

0:58:42 (RC) Very good Eliya.

Thank you very much.

What a complex system.

We’ve only just scratched the
surface of it I realised.

(EK) Yeah.

You’re welcome.

(RC) Okay, let me see.

There was a question earlier.

Let me just go back to
it on the Livestream.

There’s a question from ‘Spaaz128’:
‘There are people who cannot

increase their body temperature
during the flu or any sickness.

Any explanation for that?

’(EK) Yeah.

This has to do with the regulation of
the thermo-centres inside of the brain.

Some people are living at 35
degrees [C] daily temperature.

This is because of the conditions
inside of the thermo-centres.

There are two.

And because of the temperatures inside of
them they get that kind of temperature.

And if we compare with the Plasma
Technology of Mr Keshe, this is

probably because they contain
different strengths of GANS inside.

It’s not common, but all of us we have.

You understand?

(RC) Yes, thank you.

That was good.

What else do we have here?

1:00:30 (MK) The temperature
– if I can just

add to the Knowledge –
and the temperature

control and conversion and the heat are
very much dependent on two things.

One is salinity.

Secondly – and totally in the
majority of cases – the metal

content, or metallic components,
in the blood system.

When the metals are present in the
lymphs as a state of the GANS energy

plasmatic-magnetic field, they are like
the heating element in a boiling pot.

So they create additional heat
which, in that environment,

they’re absorbed by other metals
or metallic elements within the

structure of the lymph or the
blood, which means as one element

gives, the other element takes
or is substituted for it.

So in people with a
lower temperature

operation you have a
totally different aura.

If you compare it with
the aura of normal

people at thirty-seven
degrees temperature, you

will find out it’s
very much connected to

metallic components of
the blood or the lymph.

We see this in operation
because there are

different kinds of heat
absorbed or radiated

by the body, or in the presence of a given
salinity of the material in the body.

So at the lower temperature we see
a different kind of diseases,

with a high temperature we see
the more common diseases.

Cancers are mainly in
certain temperatures,

and one of the points
with cancer that

we especially look into is the presence of
metals and semi-conductors, semi-metals.

These are the causes and the
centre points of the cancer.

If you’re a doctor and you are given a
cancer condition, you have to look at what

is creating a stronger condition of a
creation of a new element, or a new cell.

And you'll find out in the
majority of the cases one

of the elements has a higher
elevation than the rest.

And then, if you find
where this element

finds its support and
changes the condition

from a field to a GANS, at that point
you'll find lower or higher temperature.

And then you operate through
that to create a normal

condition, and you'll find
out the cancer disappears.

1:04:15 These are part of the Technology:.

Temperature control in
different parts of the

body is an indication of
the health or operation

of the body in respect
to the salinity in

the environment in which
the cell operates.

As we said, we open the door of
the Knowledge in a deeper way.

The people who have been with us
with cancer know we always ask for

metal content within their blood
and, if possible, within the lymph.

In that case, for example,
when you have iron or copper

they create a different
gravitational-magnetic field, and

each one creates a different
temperatire and, in conjunction

with the salinity, allows
a different temperature.

And then if this temperature
difference is higher, it creates the

solidification of the matter in that
point and the absorption of the

radiation that comes from the
thalamus, and the radiation that is

absorbed and radiated by the thymus
directly in conjunction with B12.

The temperature of the body indicates the
health of the body in so many cases.

That’s why when you get angry
you get hot hands, warm hands.

The stress creates a
high temperature and, if

that temperature which
is created using, in

the majority of cases,
iron as a heating element

in the blood, creates
high blood pressure.

And that’s why it then leads to
other forms of stroke and the rest.

1:06:08 So low-temperature bodies
are important in a way that

they dictate, in conjunction
with thymus and the emotional

part of the thalamus, which
comes as a radiation, which we

call plasmatic magnetical-gravitational
leads to diseases.

And people with a lower-temperature
body have different

diseases than people with a
higher-temperature body.

Carry on.

Sorry about that.

(RC).

Well, there was another question:.

‘Do glands send out hormones in
matter form or in GANS form.

(EK).

It is my opinion that all states
of matter exist at one time.

Do you understand?

So the GANS-state of something
exists at the same time

that the plasma state exists
and the solid state exists.

That is for me, if I can say that, and
I’ll be glad if Mr Keshe explains also.

(MK).

Everything in the body is in a GANS-state.

(RC).

I knew you were going to say that.

[They laugh.

](MK).

So you’re all getting educated.

Everything in the body
is in a GANS-state

because you cannot have
the mixture of two.

1:08:08 Let me explain something to you.

Try to chew a piece of metal,
let’s say gold, and see how

much of it will be absorbed by
your body when it comes out.

None of it; you reject it.

A lot of people swallow
their gold tooth fillings,

and it comes out
exactly as it went in.

Because the body, even though we digest
certain metals – we don’t digest,

we put it through our digestive system
– unless they’re in a GANS-state

or can be changed to a GANS-state in
certain conditions in the acidity of

the stomach, they will not be absorbed,
the energy will not be absorbed.

(RC).

There’s a second part to the
question that might tie into that.

It’s part of the last question:.

‘And when the information
inside the body is on

energetic magnetic-gravitational
field basis.

’1:10:05 (MK).

All the energies inside the body are
on gravitational-magnetic field.

We don’t have rays.

(RC).

I know you were going to say that.

(MK).

Would you like my job?

[They laugh.

](RC).

No, I don’t think so.

(MK).

You’re getting good at it, you
can be one of the teachers.

(RC).

Yeah, it’s a pretty tough
job that you have.

I don’t think I’d want to go there.

Teacher maybe,
but your job is

multi-dimensional and
requires many skills.

(MK).

It’s not a job, to teach this
is a privilege we are given.

You’ve got to understand,
once you start living in

the direction of the
mixture, you have a problem.

But once you start looking and thinking in
plasmatic condition, you will understand

and you will consider matter as a state
of plasma, then there’s no confusion.

It’s just like if you’re are going a
hundred kilometres an hour or fifty

kilometres an hour or you’re stopped
in a traffic jam and your crawling.

It’s the same entity at different speeds.

The car is still the same car,
the road is still the same.

Slowly you learn what creates
you the condition to be able to

go because it’s a clear road
you’re on the highway, or you’re

sitting in a traffic jam you
can’t go anywhere, you’re part

of the structure solidified with
others in the same package.

Then you see interaction and
how it is and how you do.

1:12:00 In trying to find out about
Creation in one state, which is the plasma

state, which the whole universe is
created on, then the rest is very easy.

It’s understanding and
translating the Knowledge.

Dr Eliya is reaching that
point very slowly, but

I see a lot of deviation
from it, but it’s part

of her teaching, that’s why
she’s multi-disciplined

in traditional medicine
and in the others.

But there is something
which I always say:.

People come to the foundation
and try to prove that

they are correct in one
little spot in a very small

part of the Technology and,
because they think they are

correct, they are the
cleverest thing on the earth.

But in fact, when you look at the
totality their knowledge is worthless.

When we understand that what
we know is nothing compared to

the totality then we can
translate knowledge very easily.

And this is part of the whole thing,
translating and understanding.

So you lot, slowly, slowly a large number
of people are reaching that point.

Then on the other hand,
we try to explain

that all of us slowly
reach that point that

we look at the structure
of the plasma, part

of which structure
is the matter state.

Then the rest becomes easy.

When you ask a question of yourself, ‘How
come this material behaves like this?

’ look at the structure as a plasma.

And then you'll understand why:.

interaction between the fields,
how it interacts with others.

1:14:02 Part of the problem of the
present science is that we have –

even what I saw in what Dr Eliya
explained today in the other sessions;

we look at physical structures which
she goes into detail about, the

shape of the pieces and parts –
ask yourself what does it create?

What condition does it create?

What environment is created because of
this sac or this shape in relation to the

fields of entities inside it and in the
environment of it and surrounding it?

Then you understand how easy the
Knowledge can be translated.

Then you will understand that even the
structure of the soul is no different

than the physicality, because it’s
of a different strength length.

It’s very much the
physicality is ninety-nine

Hertz and the soul
is at twenty-five.

And because it’s at twenty-five,
it cannot be seen at ninety-nine.

But in fact there is no difference
between the structure of the

physicality of the soul and the
physicality of the entity itself.

But this raises a question
that we keep on hearing,

even in the last part
of Dr Eliya’s teaching.

It’s a huge question.

In Book Number Nine I answer
this, and this closes

the whole question about
the existence of the soul.

If you understood that the
physicality is ninety-nine Hertz

and then, for example, the
soul is at twenty-five Hertz,

for the creatures of which
the physicality works at

twenty-five does our soul become
physical, tangible to them?

Does this mean the
process of reincarnation

in understanding
the process

of RNA that the physicality can
be given to it at the time level.

Because the soul itself is not an
energy pack that is going nowhere.

It has a strength.

It has a dimension.

It has a line of
communication through its

field strength gravitational
and magnetical.

So that field matches to somebody
somewhere down the line.

It depends whether you
can tune into it, then

you can hear the voice
of the soul of the man.

1:16:56 It cannot be any different.

It cannot be any different than
the whole process of reduction in

field-strength or tuning to the
right gravitational-magnetic fields

that you can see to become tangible
or to become physical, or to

become emotional or to become the
direction of the motion of the soul.

Is the soul tangible?

Not at Man’s physical
level, but because it’s

created from the
gravitational-magnetic field.

It’s not something strange
that is in the cloud.

It’s not, as I call,
‘Icloud Apple Computer’

where we put everything
in a cloud – even in

that cloud there has to
be a place where the

information is stored
and has a strength.

But the question to ask, again:.

Are the creatures that
operate physically at that

strength such that the
strength of the soul of

the man becomes physical
to them – virtual

physicality in evidence, in
creation, in that level?

And then does this mean
that in their interaction

in that level in the line
of communication being

of the strength of the
physicality of the man,

are able to teach the man
in the physical level?

1:18:21 So does the soul of the man exist
in the dimension of the physicality

of another entity in the whole process
of the Creation of the universe?

Yes, it does.

Then maybe those who look
for the total answer of

reincarnation realise
reincarnation in physical

man, in the level of the
strength of the amino acid

of Man at the same strength,
is an impossibility.

Dr Eliya explained about our
glands and our five senses.

This immediately brought
to me that she has

not understood the
session twenty three.

Because up to now we have accepted
that we have five senses but

what we thought and we understood
last week is in fact we have six.

The emotional senses that
come for the rest of

the man, man as a totality,
man and a woman.

So in fact we have six senses,
and that’s our emotion.

But we have been ignorant
to it because we never

considered it a sense, we
considered it a feeling.

And then this emotion is
connected to the soul.

And then if it’s connected,
it has to have a

magnetic-gravitational
field connection between

the soul and physicality, the emotion and
physicality, and the emotion and the soul.

1:20:08 So it should
be easy to understand

that there are six senses
in the world of Man.

But we never understood,
now we understand.

Now this brings up this:.

If there are six senses,
the way you can measure

smell, taste, or sight, then
can we measure emotion?

Of course we can, because it’s part
of the senses we didn’t have the

tools of the gravitational-magnetic
fields system, now we have.

Now we are developing it.

And then, if you can measure the emotion,
you can measure the connection between the

emotion and the soul,
then you can understand

the strength of the
soul of the man.

And then, as I said, you have
vapour in a room, but until

it’s cold outside you don’t have
condensation on the windows.

Does the soul of the man,
when he touches the cold

then become a physicality
to the other beings?

And the answer is ‘Yes’.

Because it’s part of the totality
of the spectrum of the fields

of Creation in the universe,
and it can be no different.

This is why we call it ‘the soul of
this solar system’ and ‘the soul of the

galaxies’, and ‘the soul of the universe’
or ‘the soul of the man’, because they

all have different organs, different
parts, whose information and residual

information in
gravitational-magnetic field

gives what you like
to call the RNA.

1:22:00 Glands are part of
the structure of the brain,

but their operation is in
the position they’re in.

Without being too cumbersome
for the brain to process,

the brain has created
autonomous, independent brain

sections to look after operations
in that section so that

the traffic through the
spinal cord is not too heavy.

Part of the information
is carried through the

spinal cord and part
of the information is

carried through
gravitational-magnetic field

plasma of the position
in respect to the brain.

If you look at the practical, physical
position of different glands in different

people, in the ones with the same gland
distance, position, composition, and

structure in respect to the thalamus, you
will find the people look the same, feel

the same, and will get the same kind of
disease in that position in that organ.

It is very much behaviour connected.

As an example:.

As a lot of you know, I very
recently started the launching

of the Keshe foundation and
the Spaceship Institute.

And, as you know, we are going
out to promote the Institute.

We offered to give an interview
to Mike Harris and it was done.

And then I gave about ten
interviews on internet broadcasts.

We sent a message, ‘This is what we’d like
to do,’ and they accepted or they delayed.

1:24:00 I received a message
from Allen Sterling [Sterling D.

Allan of PESwiki] because, as you know we
had given a lot of interviews to PESwiki.

I received a message from
him, ‘Yes, we can interview.

And then, when the details
of the time of the interview

were sent to me, it was on a
different header than PESwiki.

I made a question-mark:.

‘Why has this heading changed?

PESwiki is PESwiki.

There is a lot of respect
for it and the operation.

And when Allen Sterling
came online and I asked

him why there is such
a change, have you

left PESwiki, he
explained to me, ‘I had

such-and-such a problem
I explained in January.

’And I said, ‘Mr Allen, sir, there is
no way I will give you an interview.

And any connection with you as a
line of whatever is finished.

Keshe foundation will never
give such an interview to you.

Then I received an email from him
trying to defend, which made it worse.

In these communications, the line
of thought and the behaviour

and the physical structure
match the portfolio that

I have made in respect to the
people’s behaviour, voice,

and walk, and the society they
create to show themselves.

And that kind of structure
follows the same thing

in line of behaviour, in
line of position of the

glands in different parts
of the body in respect

to how they operate and
what is the outcome.

It does not mean we approve
of this group; we are not

in the position to approve
of this group, but we

decide if that kind of line
of behaviour fits into

the structure that we are
part of the society of.

1:26:00 Then this is what happens:.

This is how your emotion connects to your
physicality if it’s accepted or not.

It’s the same with every position,
every gland, every shape of a

gland, in the time being that the
scientists learn more and more

the connection between the
physicality and the emotional part,

they'll find out every shape,
position, and distance has a meaning.

If you move it you
change a different field

and you end up with
different things.

It’s very much like Armen.

Armen recently did a test –
one of the last tests in

Descenzano – in which he
made an infinity loop plate.

There was nothing.

Then he just put a piece
of wire between the two

tanks and he started
changing the environment.

Just one piece of wire and he
changed the environment, he changed

the condition, and we started a
different process in the two tanks.

Your glands are part of
your brain structure.

And, the same as with
your brain structure,

each gland has a
responsibly for

physicality or emotional and how much
emotional and how much physicality.

And then, because it’s a
replication of the process

for that part of the
body in the brain, it

creates its own structure
ratio – how much physical

connection and how much
emotional connection.

And then it runs itself at that process.

If there’s too much soft
tissue, there’s more of

the emotional part in
ratio to the physicality.

The physicality has its own
proportions that are always bigger,

but the ratio in that respect
for that part is important.

1:28:03 If you test the glands
over the kidney, you will find the

emotional part has a huge proportion
in ratio to the physical,

even though the physical is much
bigger, because the kidneys are

part of the emotional part of the
body of Man, not the physical.

But they use the physicality to
make sure the emotional part

through the blood system stays
clean and clear for being

available for transformation,
transition, and transportation

of emotional energy level
in the body to the brain.

Look at the physicality of the
glands through the operation of

physicality and the need for
emotion from that physicality.

Look why and how each gland is structured
and the position of the structure.

And then in a very simple
way doctors of medicine

will be able to pattern
which diseases follow what.

At the point of birth you can
indicate, without RNA or DNA, how

the body will respond, because
this is part of the fitting.

You cannot fit a table between two
benches when there is no gap and two

similar size benches in the same room
will never allow a table between them.

You cannot park a Rolls Royce
in the space of a Smart.

And if you try to do you create chaos.

So the brain, through the
emotional and the physical,

creates that gap that you
can fit a Rolls Royce.

But if you park a Smart
in that space, then

you create a new condition
and a new disease.

1:30:25 All diseases
that have a connection

to a gland have a
common denominator.

And if this is understood then
you can literally reverse all

diseases in respect to that
gland to where it could be.

Always remember glands
are part of the brain

that have been put
in a given position

to take the pressure of the line of
communication through the spinal cord.

In fact, if we put all the glands together
and the amount of information that

is dictated by the gland by the operation
of certain given position of part

of the body of Man, the spinal cord
would be maybe five to ten times bigger

than what is now, just to be able to
carry the information to the brain.

So instead of having a bigger
spine, vertebrae, the body

has the subsidiary substations
that we call glands.

And it depends if that part, that
organ, or part of the operation,

be it for cell production, be it
for cleaning of the blood, be it

for whatever, how much information
it needs, how much information it

will carry, and it sends a small
report or a full report package.

When it sends a full
report package, then it’s

because there are
complications and diseases.

When it’s a small report,
it’s line-by-line

because the management
is internal.

You never report who was sacked,
how much wages, who attended.

At the end of the year you send a
total the company made a profit

and how much to your main branch
or to the company that owns you.

That’s all it is.

Glands are independent
substations to take pressure

and make information
carriage to the brain.

1:32:38 And you have to understand,
if the spinal cord was much

bigger with the point where the
interaction comes between the

physical part of the body and the
emotional part, the information

transfer would have been so much
that the man would have lived

a total epileptic life all his
life, because the switches would

have been so much that he would
been shaking all his life because

so much information was going
through – for example digestion

of the food, for example cleaning
of the blood in the kidney.

So you have independent
control systems that

are both emotional and
physically dependent.

And it depends what is
the operation of that

part or the whole
structure of the body in

respect to that gland
in respect to the main

headquarters’ plan,
which is the main brain

interactions, structure
of the soul, because,

up to now, there is a
gland in the inner

sanctum of the body that
scientists have not

even looked at because
they don’t see it.

And that gland is the line of
communication between the soul

of the man and the physicality
and emotional part of the man.

And what the scientists and
doctors tell us is that

it does nothing, has no
function, because it has

no function at the matter
level, but has function

in the soul and emotional
level and between them.

1:34:24 It is very much like a
beacon that man cannot hear, so

he says there is no use to it,
just something that is there.

It sits within the
environment of the

emotional part of the
body in the brain, and

its only function is communication between
the soul and physicality and vice versa.

(KD) Can I ask you for
a question, Mr Keshe?

(MK).

Yes.

(KD) The liquid of the eye,
as you told us, and in your

papers, has a specific
magnetic-gravitational field.

Is that specific gland
that you’re talking about

in the emotional part
of the brain somehow

connected to this MaGrav
field-strength of

the liquid of the eye,
and my question—(MK).

No, because the eye is for the
translation of physicality.

(KD) Yes, but it’s about
the detectability, like if

what we see is tuned to
the MaGrav strength—(MK).

No, no.

Let me explain to you:.

The shape and the structure of the
breast, nipples, the shape of it, the

position of it, gives an insight to the
emotion of the man, and nothing else.

The eyes are physicality.

The ears are the same.

1:36:11 As I said before, you cannot
listen to the voice through your

eyes, because it’s not tuned for
that job, it’s not for that purpose.

We see something that saddens us, but it
is the field it has created that is the

field-strength that the
emotion can detect,

but the eye is not a
link for the emotion.

We hear a voice that we feel
sad about, the reason being

that the field created is
at the strength that can be

absorbed or detected
or is in tune with the

magnetic-gravitational field of
the emotional part of the brain.

It’s very much as I explained
earlier on in the Chinese lesson:.

The interaction
between

gravitational-magnetic
fields of two plasmas,

or four plasmas, gives a residue
that is in the strength of the

plasmatic magnetic vibration of the
electron within the bandwidth, and

then you detect current, but in
fact you had no electron movement.

It’s the same.

Emotion has a specific
gravitational-magnetic

field strength,
and the emotional

part of the brain is tuned to that
gravitational-magnetic field strength.

1:38:10 If it’s out of tune,
the soul cannot hear.

Then that’s mayhem.

The emotion carries the
physicality, and physicality does

whatever it likes, murder,
abuse, all the wrong things.

Because then, when the field-strength
comes to the strength that it

can be received by the soul, then
is when the punishment starts.

Then the punishment is your soul does
not accept that, so what does it do?

It turns back what it
doesn’t accept and then the

physicality has to deal
with it as a punishment.

Let me explain to you
so that you understand.

I’ll explain this in a very very easy way.

A man goes to a whore
house and comes home very

nicely to the wife as
if nothing happened.

The man loves the car he
went to the whore house in.

In a few weeks the car gets smashed up.

How do you think it happened?

What was the consequence of punishment?

That’s why adultery is forbidden.

Because it’s you stealing from someone
you made an agreement with, which is

your wife, your partner, your lover –
it doesn’t matter, male or female,

homosexual, bisexual, or whatever – you
made an agreement, even with an animal

if you have an animal and you go
somewhere else and get another animal.

1:40:00 When you produce emotion,
it doesn’t matter whatever

it is – to satisfy the
physicality, you create a field

that is not at the field-strength
of what has been agreed

has been adjusted between
the emotion and the soul.

As I said in my last talks,
if you send us a gift,

we are friends, we don’t
need it, we send it back.

So the emotion is
sent back and the

physicality has to do
something with emotion.

And then you call it
‘The Day of Judgement’.

And then the guy loses his
car in a freak accident.

It’s him who goes through to learn.

He doesn’t look at it as, ‘Oh,
I just had an accident today.

’ No darling, you betrayed your wife.

This was the surplus energy
that you stole now adjusted.

It’s you who is going to
suffer the loss of that

car, not the wife, because
it was precious to you.

You’ve got to understand the process.

Thou shall not steal, and the biggest
thief is the man from himself.

I fall in love but I
explain to the one I

love how I feel and the
condition of my love.

If it’s accepted that is
set, be it physical or

be it emotional, or be
it at the soul level.

The ones who betray pay
their own punishment.

The punishment is not receiving.

It is not going to Hell and being
burned in a fire and being punished.

1:42:00 And in a way, when you take
from your own soul you very much become

the steam on the glass at different
temperatures, different strengths.

Would you like to become the steam on
the excrement of a dog, or would you

like to be the steam on a beautiful
glass light of God can shine through?

You decide the position of your
soul through your behaviour.

That comes through your emotion, and
that comes in what you accepted.

And that’s why we say world
peace will come when men

understand that they’re all
equal and there’s no different.

They are all getting
connected slowly, slowly.

If you listen to the first session
of the first Health Programme, other

programmes, other Teachings, then you'll
see how the structure is building up.

It’s you who chooses the
level of the soul that

you leave behind, at
what strength and, as

we say, ‘dogs with dogs,
birds with birds,

lions with lions, and
vultures with vultures.

’The process is as simple as simple.

I fall in love.

I commit myself to a condition.

I offer love but in a given condition.

And if it’s accepted,
that’s the set condition,

that’s the frequency
that it falls in.

Anything above and below:.

below you have to
catch up, above you

contribute back to
developing more of the same.

1:44:00 Any questions?

(RC).

Thank you Mr Keshe.

There was a question in the Livestream.

It says:.

‘So when the brain, the
CPU, functions coherently,

perfectly, then perfect
health is a logical result?

’(MK).

It depends what you put
in the physicality.

The problem is not so much the physicality
to be healthy, it’s so much the

emotion to be at peace that it creates
a balanced soul, a peaceful soul.

We’ve seen people around us
who support who are very very

kind and very active and
they run around trying to do

everything, but, in fact,
underneath they work for

clandestine activity or reasons
that we are not aware of.

There are those, for example,
who fall in love but to

get that love they choose
different ways to get to it.

And what they do, because
they have not gone the

right way to be correct,
they suffer by it.

They cause their own
suffering because they

don’t understand,
they cannot, or they

have to accept the
condition of being loved

and receiving love,
not what they do.

1:46:07 Love is a state of emotion that
is connected to the soul of the man.

And the whole existence of the man
is for the operation of the soul.

In fact, you have to understand
the purpose of being born.

The man born from a mother to create
a soul that in turn can become

part of the structure of the totality
of the Creation of the universe.

And in that level you do not
need physicality because

then you can operate in all
dimensions of Creation.

Any other question?

[Silence.

]There’s a lot of soul-searching, huh?

(RC).

Yeah.

A lot of souls searching for questions.

I don’t see any more in the Livestream.

Is there anybody on the Skype call
that would like to say something now?

(MK).

Have you noticed the further we
are going into these Teachings

of the Health, the questions
are getting fewer and fewer?

It means one of two things:.

we are going too fast,
or it means everybody

realises how bad
the situation is.

(RC).

We’ll, I think they’re a bit
overwhelmed with all the information.

There’s a lot to take
in at so many different

levels that it’s pretty
‘mindblowing’, as they say.

Okay, I have a question regarding
the source of attention.

Is the soul the source of attention?

(MK).

Do you mean the soul needs
to receive attention?

(RC).

No.

I mean that it would be
the source of attention.

(MK).

Explain.

(RC).

Well, it’s been said, let’s
say, if there’s anything

that we can call our
own, it’s our attention.

It’s something we can control.

We can concentrate our attention,
we can expand our attention,

we can narrow our attention,
we can disperse our attention.

(MK).

But you’ve got to explain
what ‘attention’ means.

Attention means confirmation of existence.

You want to confirm I exist, but
for whom and at what level?

Then carry on.

(RC).

I guess I'm thinking more not of
attention on oneself, but the attention

that one puts out into the universe
and where that comes from.

(MK).

Again, just as I explained.

What is my need and what I
need to be known by or with.

When you give freely
as a state of the soul

you are part of the
mosaic – all the same.

If you are looking or
giving attention or paying

attention, it means
you want to stand out

to receive or to give,
but at the same time to

be observed who is giving
and who is taking.

(RC).

Okay.

I'm trying to get more to
a state of, say, pure,

objective observation that
would be more like a pinpoint

of attention, where there
wouldn’t be any attributes

and personality attached
to that viewpoint.

It would be a pure attention.

And I'm wondering if that attention
comes from other than the physicality.

(MK).

Not really.

It’s the way you look at it through
the structure of the soul.

Souls, as they have no need for
physicality to maintain existence,

have no need for attention, so
they don’t create that condition.

1:52:00 (RC).

Would there be a viewpoint?

(MK).

What do you mean?

(RC).

In that situation would
there be a viewpoint?

Or is the viewpoint everything
all at once rather than

from an individual point in
the universe, in a sense?

(MK).

It is very much at the same level
according to the strength you are.

This is why we set up as
we explained, and we will

explain in The Twenty-first
Meeting here in Italy.

There are, for example,
souls who have reached the

level of what we call
‘balance’, and with it they

have transformed the
physical part of their

operation the same, calm,
serene, very just people.

The job of the Prophet of God was to bring
balance to the rest of Humanity to reach

to that level that there is no need to
give attention or to receive attention.

And somehow they all messed
it up; they got more involved

in physicality than actually
what was given to them,

because their physical life
has certain pleasures and

they got involved in that
and they lost everything.

And with it the human race went down
the chute, and the religions became

more the cause of conflict than the
peace that it was meant to bring.

Because one tried to get more
attention in respect to the others.

1:54:00 For example, you go,
‘Blessed be the name of Christ.

’ Or Moses, or both of them.

Christ, Bless His Name, should have
added to the Knowledge to bring

in balance between what he brought
with the Jews and the rest.

But what he created was
separation to get attention.

And with it became all the problems we
see between the Jews and the Christians.

And the same with the others.

In getting attention in the soul
level has been one of the hardest

things to do for any race in the
universe, because the pleasures

of physicality for a short time
far exceed the pleasure of the

equality of souls which is such that
there is no need for attention.

The same thing we see
with the world leaders.

They promise to pay attention
to the people and carry

out what they say, but when
they come to the point of

power, everything is forgotten
because now they become

the centre of attention,
and the rest don’t exist.

That’s why they extend
their kingship, they

go to parliament wanting
to extend their

presidency another two
terms so that they can

get more attention,
to be called ‘boss’.

So attention goes with intentions.

And then the level of the
soul decides what it is.

That’s why now we take the
physicality term out of the

structure of the life of the
man into the level of the

souls, and then we’ll announce
this in the Twenty-first

Meeting, why and how the
whole position has changed.

Where physicality has no more
say, the total of bringing the

soul of the man to our level that
it brings peace to Humanity.

1:56:05 Intentions create attention.

And attention creates that
intention to get attention.

And then it doesn’t matter what
it is, the soul, the physicality,

be it the rope of a man or be
it the name of the messengers.

And I always say, in my
term, in my contract,

there will be none of the
mistakes of the past.

Because, if I make the same
mistake it’ll be back to the same

problem for the human race, and
that will not happen, even

though we commit our souls
to the man as a soul and the

souls of the Prophet of God to
the souls of what we commit.

And we’ll never mix the two
because each one has it’s

own level, and as long as
you are clear with each,

you can love at the level
of the soul of the Prophet,

you can love as the soul
at the level of a man.

And the two will never match,
but the two can coexist in the

proper way without interaction and
stealing from one to another.

This be the love of a child
at one level, be the love

of an animal, be the love of
the universe, or the rest.

And every man has the capability
and ability to do the same.

It’s just that they have
forgotten, and that’s the

job of what we do to bring
Man to the attention,

not only that he can have
as much electricity and

as much water as you like,
but the consequences

of this is that you take
the pressure off your soul

so that your soul elevates
to the equal to the

soul of peace and justice,
with it comes your

physicality, and that’s where
we achieve World Peace.

1:58:03 A lot of you are
looking World Peace

at the level of everybody
has everything.

In fact, again, you’ve fallen short
of your physical dimensions.

When we can, and we deliver,
the ability to have

satisfaction without intention
of being not needing.

One of us is happy with a piece of bread
and a glass of water, and some of us

are not even happy with a big piece of
steak and ten bags of chips for himself.

But when you both reach the point of
satisfaction, your souls reach the same.

Then you'll find peace.

All these physical
developments that we are

teaching through the
foundation – and we release it

very rapidly more and
more – is to bring peace

to the physicality so
that by it we can achieve

peace between the emotion
and the soul of the

man so that we can elevate
each other to same

level that we can achieve
peace on this planet

so that we can join the
Universal Community.

And all of you are looking
for a little bit of energy

and a little bit of water
and a little bit of gold.

And the demands are exactly
the same by all seven

billion, because you are never
happy with what you have.

(KD) Mr Keshe, can I just
inject one comment here.

(MK).

Yes.

(KD) Would you say that our state
of being is one of the most

challenging in the whole unicos,
as if the Creator would have

put a challenge in front of him
and said, ‘Let’s see how the

human in the physical form
would challenge his existence.

I mean, this is sometimes
the feeling that I

have to detach myself
from my own physicality

in order not to observe
a field of suffering

and everything else
that comes with it.

2:00:22 (MK).

You know, I always say a
joke, maybe it answers you.

You gotta have a sense of
humour to understand it.

You know, we always say, ‘God is a
man, and he's a bachelor; he's single.

In fact, God has a partner.

But the beauty of it is – what
I say as a joke but it has

a lot of meaning if you
understand – I say, ‘God created

women and he saw how much the
men suffered, and he decided

to stay a bachelor; he didn’t
create one for himself.

’In fact, we decide, and nobody else does,
our suffering, what we want to take.

It is our emotion that dictates what
is suffering and what is a pleasure.

What is suffering is a
pleasure to somebody

else, even though it’s
at the same strength.

God did not create anything to suffer.

It’s the physicality that
decides how he can confirm his

own existence to himself,
and you call it suffering.

And it’s the same across the universe.

Man is no exception.

And throughout the universe developing
races and creatures, be they tangible or

non-tangible, go through the same process
because that’s part of the maturation.

2:02:12 In Chinese there is a saying
that says, ‘Hardship makes you think.

Thinking makes you wise.

And wisdom makes you rich.

’ And that richness is at the level
of the soul, not the physicality.

Any other question?

(RC).

We have a question.

It says, ‘How is the soul of a planet
connected to the soul of a solar system?

’(MK).

How is the soul of your toe connected
to the soul of your physicality?

It’s all part of the same.

The position is that, as we have cells to
make the totality of structure of a man,

we have a planetary system that makes the
structure of the galaxy and the universe.

And as the totality of the
cells makes the man with

a soul, so does the planetary
and galaxy system.

2:04:00 It’s the man who does not
understand the total structure.

There is […] as the working of an atom.

The plasma of a neutron is the same as
the working of the […] of the universe.

So is the soul of a man and
the soul of the universe.

It’s just that it’s beyond the
understanding of Man at this point.

As we say, ‘The larger the
roof, the more snow to plough.

’ The bigger the structure,
the bigger the soul, in

different strength but
it’s part of the totality.

In Book Number Nine called The
Soul I explain a lot of things.

But Man is not ready to
listen – to understand.

He's ready to listen, but
he cannot comprehend.

(RC).

Well, you keep teasing us about
Book Number Nine and we still

have to hear more about Five,
Six, Seven, and Eight as well.

When do you think these—(MK).

I don’t have time.

If you would have learned very fast
then I would have time to write.

At the moment, in the past two years,
I haven’t been writing as much.

But, in a way, instead of writing now
for a few people to read, now we’re

teaching masses and the transcript
of the Teaching is the writing.

This way it’s much easier to
teach without getting trampled.

(RC).

It’s a live book.

(MK).

It’s a live book.

In a way, in the coming days when the
Institute opens in respect to the

totality, there will
be huge announcements,

even in respect
to the books.

Maybe since the conversation
is here we can explain:.

2:06:08 As you know, we had
a huge problem with the

delivery because the distributor
in Belgium was, in a way

forced – or whatever they did
– to block, to discredit,

to start a criminal action
against the Keshe foundation.

So we have – our security people
informed us since the transition –

books not getting delivered, and
they’re finding out whatever it was.

Now the Keshe foundation has brought the
distribution of the books back under

the umbrella of the foundation without
outside distribution in Belgium.

So from now on, there should
be no delay in the books,

and anybody who paid for the
books and have claimed it

back for not receiving it,
this was part of the scheme

of Belgium to create another
scam claim through courts.

Now that we’ve found out how it was done
– they left their fingerprint – all

the distribution of the books will be
done through Italy directly from here.

[Mr Keshe goes into more detail on this:.

[- Now that the books have been recovered
there will be a repricing of them.

[- Also the books will be available for
download on a donation basis so that

people have no excuse to download
pirate versions and damage their souls.

]2:13:06