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We are the stories we tell ourselves

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    So, I was just asked to go and shoot this film called "Elizabeth."
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    And we're all talking about this great English icon and saying,
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    "She's a fantastic woman, she does everything.
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    How are we going to introduce her?"
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    So we went around the table with the studio and the producers and the writer,
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    and they came to me and said, "Shekhar, what do you think?"
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    And I said, "I think she's dancing."
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    And I could see everybody looked at me,
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    somebody said, "Bollywood."
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    The other said, "How much did we hire him for?"
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    And the third said, "Let's find another director."
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    I thought I had better change.
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    So we had a lot of discussion on how to introduce Elizabeth,
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    and I said, "OK, maybe I am too Bollywood.
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    Maybe Elizabeth, this great icon, dancing?
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    What are you talking about?"
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    So I rethought the whole thing,
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    and then we all came to a consensus.
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    And here was the introduction of this
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    great British icon called "Elizabeth."
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    Leicester: May I join you, my lady?
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    Elizabeth: If it please you, sir.
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    (Music)
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    Shekhar Kapur: So she was dancing.
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    So how many people who saw the film did not get
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    that here was a woman in love,
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    that she was completely innocent
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    and saw great joy in her life, and she was youthful?
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    And how many of you did not get that?
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    That's the power of visual storytelling,
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    that's the power of dance, that's the power of music:
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    the power of not knowing.
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    When I go out to direct a film,
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    every day we prepare too much, we think too much.
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    Knowledge becomes a weight upon wisdom.
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    You know, simple words lost
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    in the quicksand of experience.
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    So I come up, and I say,
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    "What am I going to do today?" I'm not going to do what I planned to do,
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    and I put myself into absolute panic.
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    It's my one way of getting rid of my mind,
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    getting rid of this mind that says,
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    "Hey, you know what you're doing. You know exactly what you're doing.
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    You're a director, you've done it for years."
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    So I've got to get there
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    and be in complete panic.
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    It's a symbolic gesture. I tear up the script,
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    I go and I panic myself, I get scared.
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    I'm doing it right now; you can watch me. I'm getting nervous,
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    I don't know what to say, I don't know what I'm doing, I don't want to go there.
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    And as I go there, of course, my A.D. says,
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    "You know what you're going to do, sir." I say, "Of course I do."
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    And the studio executives, they would say,
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    "Hey, look at Shekhar. He's so prepared."
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    And inside I've just been listening to Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
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    because he's chaotic.
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    I'm allowing myself to go into chaos
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    because out of chaos, I'm hoping some moments of truth will come.
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    All preparation is preparation.
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    I don't even know if it's honest.
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    I don't even know if it's truthful.
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    The truth of it all comes on the moment, organically,
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    and if you get five great moments
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    of great, organic stuff
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    in your storytelling, in your film,
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    your film, audiences will get it.
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    So I'm looking for those moments, and I'm standing there
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    and saying, "I don't know what to say."
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    So, ultimately, everybody's looking at you,
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    200 people at seven in the morning
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    who got there at quarter to seven, and you arrived at seven,
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    and everybody's saying,
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    "Hey. What's the first thing? What's going to happen?"
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    And you put yourself into a state of panic
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    where you don't know, and so you don't know.
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    And so, because you don't know,
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    you're praying to the universe because you're praying to the universe
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    that something -- I'm going to try and access the universe
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    the way Einstein -- say a prayer --
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    accessed his equations,
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    the same source. I'm looking for the same source
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    because creativity comes from absolutely the same source
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    that you meditate somewhere outside yourself,
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    outside the universe.
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    You're looking for something that comes and hits you.
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    Until that hits you, you're not going to do the first shot.
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    So what do you do?
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    So Cate says, "Shekhar, what do you want me to do?"
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    And I say, "Cate, what do you want to do?" (Laughter)
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    "You're a great actor, and I like to give to my actors --
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    why don't you show me what you want to do?"
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    (Laughter)
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    What am I doing? I'm trying to buy time.
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    I'm trying to buy time.
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    So the first thing about storytelling that I learned,
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    and I follow all the time is: Panic.
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    Panic is the great access of creativity
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    because that's the only way to get rid of your mind.
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    Get rid of your mind.
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    Get out of it, get it out.
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    And let's go to the universe because
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    there's something out there that is more
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    truthful than your mind,
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    that is more truthful than your universe.
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    [unclear], you said that yesterday. I'm just repeating it
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    because that's what I follow constantly
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    to find the shunyata somewhere, the emptiness.
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    Out of the emptiness comes a moment of creativity.
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    So that's what I do.
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    When I was a kid -- I was about eight years old.
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    You remember how India was. There was no pollution.
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    In Delhi, we used to live -- we used to call it a chhat or the khota.
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    Khota's now become a bad word. It means their terrace --
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    and we used to sleep out at night.
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    At school I was being just taught about physics,
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    and I was told that
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    if there is something that exists,
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    then it is measurable.
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    If it is not measurable,
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    it does not exist.
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    And at night I would lie out, looking at the unpolluted sky,
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    as Delhi used to be at that time when I was a kid,
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    and I used to stare at the universe and say,
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    "How far does this universe go?"
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    My father was a doctor.
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    And I would think, "Daddy, how far does the universe go?"
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    And he said, "Son, it goes on forever."
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    So I said, "Please measure forever
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    because in school they're teaching me
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    that if I cannot measure it, it does not exist.
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    It doesn't come into my frame of reference."
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    So, how far does eternity go?
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    What does forever mean?
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    And I would lie there crying at night
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    because my imagination could not touch creativity.
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    So what did I do?
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    At that time, at the tender age of seven,
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    I created a story.
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    What was my story?
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    And I don't know why, but I remember the story.
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    There was a woodcutter
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    who's about to take his ax and chop a piece of wood,
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    and the whole galaxy is one atom of that ax.
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    And when that ax hits that piece of wood,
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    that's when everything will destroy
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    and the Big Bang will happen again.
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    But all before that there was a woodcutter.
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    And then when I would run out of that story,
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    I would imagine that woodcutter's universe
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    is one atom in the ax of another woodcutter.
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    So every time, I could tell my story again and again
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    and get over this problem,
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    and so I got over the problem.
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    How did I do it? Tell a story.
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    So what is a story?
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    A story is our -- all of us --
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    we are the stories we tell ourselves.
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    In this universe, and this existence,
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    where we live with this duality
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    of whether we exist or not
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    and who are we,
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    the stories we tell ourselves are the stories
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    that define the potentialities
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    of our existence.
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    We are the stories we tell ourselves.
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    So that's as wide as we look at stories.
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    A story is the relationship
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    that you develop between who you are,
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    or who you potentially are,
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    and the infinite world, and that's our mythology.
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    We tell our stories,
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    and a person without a story does not exist.
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    So Einstein told a story
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    and followed his stories and came up with theories
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    and came up with theories and then came up with his equations.
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    Alexander had a story that his mother used to tell him,
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    and he went out to conquer the world.
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    We all, everybody, has a story that they follow.
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    We tell ourselves stories.
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    So, I will go further, and I say,
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    "I tell a story, and therefore I exist."
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    I exist because there are stories,
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    and if there are no stories, we don't exist.
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    We create stories to define our existence.
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    If we do not create the stories,
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    we probably go mad.
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    I don't know; I'm not sure, but that's what I've done all the time.
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    Now, a film.
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    A film tells a story.
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    I often wonder when I make a film -- I'm thinking of making a film of the Buddha --
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    and I often wonder: If Buddha had all the elements
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    that are given to a director --
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    if he had music, if he had visuals, if he had a video camera --
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    would we get Buddhism better?
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    But that puts some kind of burden on me.
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    I have to tell a story
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    in a much more elaborate way,
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    but I have the potential.
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    It's called subtext.
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    When I first went to Hollywood, they said --
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    I used to talk about subtext, and my agent came to me,
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    "Would you kindly not talk about subtext?"
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    And I said, "Why?" He said, "Because nobody is going to give you a film
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    if you talk about subtext.
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    Just talk about plot
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    and say how wonderful you'll shoot the film,
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    what the visuals will be."
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    So when I look at a film,
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    here's what we look for:
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    We look for a story on the plot level,
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    then we look for a story
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    on the psychological level,
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    then we look for a story on the political level,
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    then we look at a story
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    on a mythological level.
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    And I look for stories on each level.
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    Now, it is not necessary
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    that these stories agree with each other.
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    What is wonderful is,
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    at many times, the stories will contradict with each other.
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    So when I work with Rahman who's a great musician,
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    I often tell him, "Don't follow what the script already says.
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    Find that which is not.
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    Find the truth for yourself,
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    and when you find the truth for yourself,
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    there will be a truth in it, but it may contradict the plot,
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    but don't worry about it."
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    So, the sequel to "Elizabeth," "Golden Age."
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    When I made the sequel to "Elizabeth," here was a story that
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    the writer was telling:
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    A woman who was threatened
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    by Philip II
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    and was going to war,
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    and was going to war, fell in love with Walter Raleigh.
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    Because she fell in love with Walter Raleigh,
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    she was giving up the reasons she was a queen,
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    and then Walter Raleigh
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    fell in love with her lady in waiting,
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    and she had to decide whether she was a queen going to war
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    or she wanted...
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    Here's the story I was telling:
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    The gods up there,
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    there were two people.
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    There was Philip II, who was divine
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    because he was always praying,
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    and there was Elizabeth, who was divine,
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    but not quite divine because she thought she was divine,
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    but the blood of being mortal flowed in her.
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    But the divine one was unjust,
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    so the gods said,
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    "OK, what we need to do is
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    help the just one."
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    And so they helped the just one.
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    And what they did was, they sent Walter Raleigh down
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    to physically separate her mortal self
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    from her spirit self.
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    And the mortal self was the girl
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    that Walter Raleigh was sent,
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    and gradually he separated her
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    so she was free to be divine.
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    And the two divine people fought,
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    and the gods were on the side of divinity.
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    Of course, all the British press got really upset.
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    They said, "We won the Armada."
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    But I said, "But the storm won the Armada.
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    The gods sent the storm."
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    So what was I doing?
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    I was trying to find a mythic reason
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    to make the film.
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    Of course, when I asked Cate Blanchett, I said, "What's the film about?"
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    She said, "The film's about a woman
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    coming to terms with growing older."
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    Psychological.
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    The writer said "It's about history, plot."
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    I said "It's about mythology,
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    the gods."
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    So let me show you a film --
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    a piece from that film --
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    and how a camera also --
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    so this is a scene, where in my mind,
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    she was at the depths of mortality.
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    She was discovering what mortality actually means,
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    and if she is at the depths of mortality,
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    what really happens.
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    And she's recognizing the dangers of mortality
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    and why she should break away from mortality.
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    Remember, in the film, to me,
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    both her and her lady in waiting
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    were parts of the same body,
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    one the mortal self
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    and one the spirit self.
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    So can we have that second?
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    (Music)
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    Elizabeth: Bess?
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    Bess?
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    Bess Throckmorton?
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    Bess: Here, my lady.
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    Elizabeth: Tell me, is it true?
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    Are you with child?
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    Are you with child?
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    Bess: Yes, my lady.
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    Elizabeth: Traitorous.
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    You dare to keep secrets from me?
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    You ask my permission before you rut,
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    before you breed.
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    My bitches wear my collars.
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    Do you hear me? Do you hear me?
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    Walsingham: Majesty. Please, dignity. Mercy.
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    Elizabeth: This is no time for mercy, Walsingham.
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    You go to your traitor brother and leave me to my business.
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    Is it his?
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    Tell me. Say it. Is the child his? Is it his?
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    Bess: Yes.
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    My lady,
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    it is my husband's child.
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    Elizabeth: Bitch! (Cries)
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    Raleigh: Majesty.
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    This is not the queen I love and serve.
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    Elizabeth: This man has seduced a ward of the queen,
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    and she has married without royal consent.
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    These offenses are punishable by law. Arrest him.
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    Go.
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    You no longer have the queen's protection.
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    Bess: As you wish, Majesty.
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    Elizabeth: Get out! Get out! Get out!
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    Get out.
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    (Music)
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    Shekhar Kapur: So, what am I trying to do here?
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    Elizabeth has realized,
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    and she's coming face-to-face
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    with her own sense of jealousy,
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    her own sense of mortality.
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    What am I doing with the architecture?
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    The architecture is telling a story.
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    The architecture is telling a story
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    about how, even though she's the most powerful woman
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    in the world at that time,
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    there is the other, the architecture's bigger.
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    The stone is bigger than her because stone is an organic.
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    It'll survive her.
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    So it's telling you, to me, stone is part of her destiny.
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    Not only that, why is the camera looking down?
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    The camera's looking down at her because she's in the well.
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    She's in the absolute well
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    of her own sense of being mortal.
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    That's where she has to pull herself out
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    from the depths of mortality,
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    come in, release her spirit.
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    And that's the moment where, in my mind,
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    both Elizabeth and Bess are the same person.
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    But that's the moment
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    she's surgically removing herself from that.
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    So the film is operating on
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    many many levels in that scene.
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    And how we tell stories
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    visually, with music, with actors,
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    and at each level it's a different sense
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    and sometimes contradictory to each other.
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    So how do I start all this?
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    What's the process of telling a story?
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    About ten years ago,
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    I heard this little thing from a politician,
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    not a politician that was very well respected in India.
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    And he said that these people in the cities,
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    in one flush, expend as much water
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    as you people in the rural areas
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    don't get for your family for two days.
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    That struck a chord, and I said, "That's true."
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    I went to see a friend of mine,
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    and he made me wait
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    in his apartment in Malabar Hill
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    on the twentieth floor,
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    which is a really, really upmarket area in Mumbai.
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    And he was having a shower for 20 minutes.
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    I got bored and left, and as I drove out,
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    I drove past the slums of Bombay,
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    as you always do,
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    and I saw lines and lines in the hot midday sun
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    of women and children with buckets
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    waiting for a tanker
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    to come and give them water.
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    And an idea started to develop.
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    So how does that become a story?
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    I suddenly realized that we are heading towards disaster.
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    So my next film is called "Paani"
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    which means water.
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    And now, out of the mythology of that,
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    I'm starting to create a world.
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    What kind of world do I create,
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    and where does the idea, the design of that come?
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    So, in my mind, in the future,
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    they started to build flyovers.
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    You understand flyovers? Yeah?
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    They started to build flyovers
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    to get from A to B faster,
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    but they effectively went from one area of relative wealth
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    to another area of relative wealth.
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    And then what they did was
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    they created a city above the flyovers.
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    And the rich people moved to the upper city
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    and left the poorer people in the lower cities,
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    about 10 to 12 percent of the people
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    have moved to the upper city.
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    Now, where does this upper city and lower city come?
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    There's a mythology in India about --
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    where they say, and I'll say it in Hindi,
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    [Hindi]
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    Right. What does that mean?
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    It says that the rich are always sitting on the shoulders
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    and survive on the shoulders of the poor.
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    So, from that mythology, the upper city and lower city come.
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    So the design has a story.
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    And now, what happens is that the people of the upper city,
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    they suck up all the water.
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    Remember the word I said, suck up.
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    They suck up all the water, keep to themselves,
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    and they drip feed the lower city.
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    And if there's any revolution, they cut off the water.
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    And, because democracy still exists,
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    there's a democratic way in which you say
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    "Well, if you give us what [we want], we'll give you water."
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    So, okay my time is up.
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    But I can go on about telling you
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    how we evolve stories,
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    and how stories effectively are who we are
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    and how these get translated into the particular discipline
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    that I am in, which is film.
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    But ultimately, what is a story? It's a contradiction.
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    Everything's a contradiction.
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    The universe is a contradiction.
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    And all of us are constantly looking for harmony.
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    When you get up, the night and day is a contradiction.
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    But you get up at 4 a.m.
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    That first blush of blue is where the night and day
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    are trying to find harmony with each other.
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    Harmony is the notes that Mozart didn't give you,
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    but somehow the contradiction of his notes suggest that.
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    All contradictions of his notes suggest the harmony.
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    It's the effect of looking for harmony
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    in the contradiction that exists in a poet's mind,
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    a contradiction that exists in a storyteller's mind.
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    In a storyteller's mind, it's a contradiction of moralities.
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    In a poet's mind, it's a conflict of words,
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    in the universe's mind, between day and night.
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    In the mind of a man and a woman,
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    we're looking constantly at
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    the contradiction between male and female,
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    we're looking for harmony within each other.
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    The whole idea of contradiction,
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    but the acceptance of contradiction
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    is the telling of a story, not the resolution.
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    The problem with a lot of the storytelling in Hollywood
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    and many films, and as [unclear] was saying in his,
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    that we try to resolve the contradiction.
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    Harmony is not resolution.
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    Harmony is the suggestion of a thing
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    that is much larger than resolution.
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    Harmony is the suggestion of something
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    that is embracing and universal
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    and of eternity and of the moment.
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    Resolution is something that is far more limited.
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    It is finite; harmony is infinite.
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    So that storytelling, like all other contradictions in the universe,
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    is looking for harmony and infinity
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    in moral resolutions, resolving one, but letting another go,
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    letting another go and creating a question that is really important.
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    Thank you very much.
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    (Applause)
Title:
We are the stories we tell ourselves
Speaker:
Shekhar Kapur
Description:

Where does creative inspiration spring from? At TEDIndia, Hollywood/Bollywood director Shekhar Kapur ("Elizabeth," "Mr. India") pinpoints his source of creativity: sheer, utter panic. He shares a powerful way to unleash your inner storyteller.

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Video Language:
English
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Duration:
20:56
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