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Faith versus tradition in Islam | Mustafa Akyol | TEDxWarwick

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    Thank you.
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    A few weeks ago, I had a chance
    to go to Saudi Arabia.
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    And the first thing
    I wanted to do as a Muslim
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    was to go to Mecca and visit the Kaaba,
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    the holiest shrine of Islam.
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    And I did that;
    I put on my ritualistic dress,
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    I went to the holy mosque,
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    I did my prayers,
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    I observed all the rituals.
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    And meanwhile,
    besides all the spirituality,
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    there was one mundane detail in the Kaaba
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    that was pretty interesting for me:
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    there was no separation of sexes.
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    In other words, men and women
    were worshiping all together.
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    They were together while doing tawāf,
    the circular walk around the Kaaba.
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    They were together while praying.
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    And if you wonder
    why this is interesting at all,
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    you have to see the rest of Saudi Arabia,
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    because this a country which is strictly
    divided between the sexes.
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    In other words:
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    as men, you are simply not supposed to be
    in the same physical space
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    with women.
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    And I noticed this in a very funny way.
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    I left the Kaaba to eat something
    in downtown Mecca.
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    I headed to the nearest
    Burger King restaurant.
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    And I went there -- I noticed
    that there was a male section,
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    which is carefully separated
    from the female section.
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    I had to pay, order and eat
    in the male section.
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    "It's funny," I said to myself,
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    "You can mingle with the opposite sex
    at the holy Kaaba,
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    but not at the Burger King?"
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    (Laughter)
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    Quite, quite ironic.
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    Ironic, and it's also,
    I think, quite telling,
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    because the Kaaba
    and the rituals around it
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    are relics from the earliest
    phase of Islam,
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    that of prophet Muhammad.
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    And if there was a big emphasis
    at the time to separate men from women,
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    the rituals around the Kaaba
    could have been designed accordingly.
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    But apparently, that was not
    an issue at the time.
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    So the rituals came that way.
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    This is also, I think,
    confirmed by the fact
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    that the seclusion of women
    in creating a divided society
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    is something that you also
    do not find in the Koran --
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    the very core of Islam,
    the divine core of Islam --
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    that all Muslims, equally myself, believe.
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    And I think it's not an accident
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    that you don't find this idea
    in the very origin of Islam,
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    because many scholars who study
    the history of Islamic thought --
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    Muslim scholars or Westerners --
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    think that, actually, the practice
    of dividing men and women physically
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    came as a later development in Islam,
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    as Muslims adopted
    some preexisting cultures
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    and traditions of the Middle East.
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    Seclusion of women was actually
    a Byzantine and Persian practice,
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    and Muslims adopted it
    and made it a part of their religion.
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    Actually, this is just one example
    of a much larger phenomenon.
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    What we call today Islamic law,
    and especially Islamic culture --
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    and there are many Islamic
    cultures, actually;
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    the one in Saudi Arabia is much different
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    from where I come
    from in Istanbul or Turkey.
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    But still, if you're going to speak
    about a Muslim culture,
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    this has a core: the divine message
    which began the religion.
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    But then many traditions, perceptions,
    practices were added on top of it.
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    And these were traditions
    of the Middle East medieval traditions.
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    There are two important
    messages, or two lessons,
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    to take from that reality.
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    First of all, Muslims --
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    pious, conservative, believing Muslims
    who want to be loyal to their religion --
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    should not cling onto everything
    in their culture,
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    thinking that that's divinely mandated.
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    Maybe some things are bad traditions
    and they need to be changed.
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    On the other hand, the Westerners
    who look at Islamic culture
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    and see some troubling aspects
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    should not readily conclude
    that this is what Islam ordains.
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    Maybe it's a Middle Eastern culture
    that became confused with Islam.
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    Let me give you a few examples
    on the latter issue.
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    There is a practice
    called female circumcision.
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    I don't know
    if you've ever heard about it,
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    but it's something terrible, horrible.
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    It is basically an operation
    to deprive women of sexual pleasure.
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    I don't want to go into details,
    but it's something very bad.
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    And Westerners --
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    Europeans or Americans --
    who didn't know about this before,
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    [saw] this practice
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    within some of the Muslim communities
    who migrated from North Africa.
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    And they've thought,
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    "Oh, what a horrible religion that is,
    which ordains something like that."
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    But when you look at female circumcision,
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    you see that it has
    nothing to do with Islam;
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    it's just a North African practice
    which predates Islam.
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    It was there for thousands of years.
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    And, quite tellingly,
    some Muslims do practice it --
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    the Muslims in North Africa,
    not in other places.
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    But also the non-Muslim
    communities of North Africa --
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    the animists, some Christians
    and even a Jewish tribe in North Africa --
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    are known to practice female circumcision.
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    So what might look like a problem
    within Islamic faith
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    might turn out to be a tradition
    that Muslims have subscribed to.
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    The same thing can be said
    for honor killings,
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    which is a recurrent theme
    in the Western media --
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    and which is, of course,
    a horrible tradition.
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    And we see, truly, in some Muslim
    communities, that tradition.
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    But in the non-Muslim communities
    of the Middle East,
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    such as some Christian communities,
    Eastern communities,
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    you see the same practice.
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    We had a tragic case of an honor killing
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    within Turkey's Armenian community
    just a few months ago.
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    Now, these are things
    about general culture,
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    but I'm also very much
    interested in political culture
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    and whether liberty
    and democracy is appreciated,
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    or whether there's an authoritarian
    political culture
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    in which the state is supposed
    to impose things on the citizens.
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    And it is no secret
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    that many Islamic movements
    in the Middle East
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    tend to be authoritarian,
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    and some of the so-called
    "Islamic regimes,"
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    such as Saudi Arabia, Iran and the worst
    case, the Taliban in Afghanistan,
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    they are pretty authoritarian --
    no doubt about that.
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    For example, in Saudi Arabia,
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    there is a phenomenon
    called the religious police.
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    And the religious police imposes
    the supposed Islamic way of life
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    on every citizen, by force --
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    like, women are forced
    to cover their heads --
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    wear the hijab, the Islamic head cover.
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    Now that is pretty authoritarian,
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    and that's something
    I'm very much critical of.
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    But when I realized that the non-Muslim,
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    or the non-Islamic-minded
    actors in the same geography
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    sometimes behaved similarly,
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    I realized that the problem maybe lies
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    in the political culture
    of the whole region, not just Islam.
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    Let me give you an example:
    in Turkey, where I come from,
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    which is a very hyper-secular republic,
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    until very recently, we used to have
    what I call "secularism police,"
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    which would guard the universities
    against veiled students.
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    In other words, they would force students
    to uncover their heads.
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    And I think forcing people
    to uncover their head
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    is as tyrannical as forcing
    them to cover it.
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    It should be the citizen's decision
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    and every individual
    should decide about that.
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    But when I saw that, I said,
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    "Maybe the problem is just
    an authoritarian culture in the region,
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    and some Muslims
    have been influenced by that.
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    But the secular-minded people
    can be influenced by that.
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    Maybe it's a problem
    of the political culture,
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    and we have to think about
    how to change that political culture."
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    Now, these are some of the questions
    I had in mind a few years ago
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    when I sat down to write a book.
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    I said, "Well, I will do research
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    about how Islam actually
    came to be what it is today,
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    and what roads were taken
    and what roads could have been taken."
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    And I finished the book, actually
    it's not published -
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    it's coming out this summer.
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    The name of the book is "Islam Without
    Extremes: A Muslim Case for Liberty."
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    And as the subtitle suggests,
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    I looked at Islamic tradition
    and the history of Islamic thought
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    from the perspective
    of individual liberty,
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    and I tried to find what are the strengths
    with regard to individual liberty.
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    And there are strengths
    in Islamic tradition.
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    Islam, actually,
    as a monotheistic religion,
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    which defined man
    as a responsible agent by itself,
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    created the idea of the individual
    in the Middle East,
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    and saved it from the communitarianism,
    the collectivism of the tribe.
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    You can derive many ideas from that.
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    But besides that, I also saw
    problems within Islamic tradition.
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    But one thing was curious:
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    most of those problems turn out to be
    problems that emerged later,
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    not from the very divine core
    of Islam, the Koran,
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    but from, again,
    traditions and mentalities,
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    or the interpretations of the Koran
    that Muslims made in the Middle Ages.
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    The Koran, for example,
    doesn't condone stoning.
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    There is nothing about that in the Koran.
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    There is no punishment for apostasy.
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    There is no punishment
    for personal sins like drinking.
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    These things which make Islamic law,
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    the troubling aspects of Islamic law,
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    were developed into later
    interpretations of Islam.
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    Which means that Muslims can, today,
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    look at those things and say,
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    "Well, the core of our religion
    is here to stay with us.
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    It's our faith,
    and we will be loyal to it.
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    But we can change how it was interpreted,
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    because it was interpreted
    according to the time
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    and milieu in the Middle Ages.
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    Now we're living in a different world,
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    with different values
    and political systems."
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    That interpretation
    is quite possible and feasible.
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    Now, if I were the only person
    thinking that way,
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    we would be in trouble.
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    But that's not the case at all.
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    Actually, from the 19th century on,
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    there's a whole revisionist, reformist --
    whatever you call it -- tradition,
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    a trend in Islamic thinking.
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    These were intellectuals or statesmen
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    of the 19th century,
    and later, 20th century,
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    which looked at Europe, basically,
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    and saw that Europe
    has many things to admire,
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    like science and technology.
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    But not just that;
    also democracy, parliament,
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    the idea of representation,
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    the idea of equal citizenship.
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    These Muslim thinkers, intellectuals
    and statesmen of the 19th century,
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    looked at Europe,
    saw these things, and said,
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    "Why don't we have these things?"
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    And they looked back at Islamic tradition,
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    and they saw what I told you -
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    they saw that there are
    problematic aspects,
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    but they're not the core of the religion,
    so maybe they can be re-understood,
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    and the Koran can be reread
    in the modern world.
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    That trend is generally called
    Islamic modernism,
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    and it was advanced
    by intellectuals and statesmen,
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    not just as an intellectual idea, though,
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    but also as a political program.
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    And that's why, actually,
    in the 19th century,
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    the Ottoman Empire, which then
    covered the whole Middle East,
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    made very important reforms --
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    reforms like giving Christians and Jews
    an equal citizenship status,
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    accepting a constitution,
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    accepting a representative parliament,
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    advancing the idea of freedom of religion.
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    That's why the Ottoman Empire,
    in its last decades,
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    turned into a proto-democracy,
    a constitutional monarchy,
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    and freedom was a very important
    political value at the time.
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    Similarly, in the Arab world,
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    there was what the great Arab
    historian Albert Hourani defines
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    as the Liberal Age.
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    He has a book, "Arabic Thought
    in the Liberal Age,"
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    and the Liberal Age, he defines
    as 19th century and early 20th century.
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    Quite notably, this was the dominant trend
    in the early 20th century
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    among Islamic thinkers
    and statesmen and theologians.
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    But there is a very curious pattern
    in the rest of the 20th century,
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    because we see a sharp decline
    in this Islamic modernist line.
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    And in place of that,
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    what happens is that Islamism grows
    as an ideology which is authoritarian,
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    which is quite strident,
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    which is quite anti-Western,
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    and which wants to shape society
    based on a utopian vision.
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    So Islamism is the problematic idea
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    that really created a lot of problems
    in the 20th-century Islamic world.
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    And even the very extreme
    forms of Islamism
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    led to terrorism in the name of Islam --
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    which is actually a practice
    that I think is against Islam,
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    but some, obviously, extremists,
    did not think that way.
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    But there is a curious question:
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    If Islamic modernism was so popular
    in the 19th and early 20th centuries,
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    why did Islamism become so popular
    in the rest of the 20th century?
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    And this is a question, I think,
    which needs to be discussed carefully.
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    In my book, I went
    into that question as well.
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    And actually, you don't need to be
    a rocket scientist to understand that.
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    Just look at the political
    history of the 20th century,
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    and you see things have changed a lot.
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    The contexts have changed.
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    In the 19th century,
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    when Muslims were looking
    at Europe as an example,
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    they were independent;
    they were more self-confident.
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    In the early 20th century,
    with the fall of the Ottoman Empire,
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    the whole Middle East was colonized.
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    And when you have colonialization,
    what do you have?
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    You have anti-colonialization.
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    So Europe is not just
    an example now to emulate;
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    it's an enemy to fight and to resist.
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    So there's a very sharp decline
    in liberal ideas in the Muslim world,
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    and what you see is more of a defensive,
    rigid, reactionary strain,
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    which led to Arab socialism,
    Arab nationalism
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    and ultimately to the Islamist ideology.
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    And when the colonial period ended,
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    what you had in place of that
    was generally secular dictators,
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    which say they're a country,
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    but did not bring
    democracy to the country,
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    and established their own dictatorship.
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    And I think the West,
    at least some powers in the West,
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    particularly the United States,
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    made the mistake of supporting
    those secular dictators,
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    thinking that they were more
    helpful for their interests.
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    But the fact that those dictators
    suppressed democracy in their country
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    and suppressed Islamic
    groups in their country
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    actually made the Islamists
    much more strident.
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    So in the 20th century,
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    you had this vicious cycle
    in the Arab world,
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    where you have a dictatorship
    suppressing its own people,
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    including the Islamic pious,
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    and they're reacting in reactionary ways.
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    There was one country, though,
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    which was able to escape or stay away
    from that vicious cycle.
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    And that's the country
    where I come from, Turkey.
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    Turkey has never been colonized,
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    so it remained as an independent nation
    after the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
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    That's one thing to remember;
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    it did not share
    the same anti-colonial hype
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    that you can find in some other
    countries in the region.
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    Secondly, and most importantly,
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    Turkey became a democracy
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    earlier than any of the countries
    we are talking about.
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    In 1950, Turkey had the first
    free and fair elections,
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    which ended the more
    autocratic secular regime,
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    which was in the beginning of Turkey.
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    And the pious Muslims in Turkey
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    saw that they could change
    the political system by voting.
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    And they realized that democracy
    is something compatible with Islam,
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    compatible with their values,
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    and they've been supportive of democracy.
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    That's an experience
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    that not every other Muslim nation
    in the Middle East had,
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    until very recently.
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    Secondly, in the past two decades,
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    thanks to globalization,
    thanks to the market economy,
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    thanks to the rise of a middle class,
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    we in Turkey see what I define
    as a rebirth of Islamic modernism.
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    Now, there's the more urban
    middle-class pious Muslims
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    who, again, look at their tradition
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    and see that there are
    some problems in the tradition,
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    and understand that they need to be
    changed and questioned and reformed.
  • 15:59 - 16:03
    And they look at Europe,
    and see an example, again, to follow.
  • 16:03 - 16:06
    They see an example, at least,
    to take some inspiration from.
  • 16:06 - 16:10
    That's why the EU process,
    Turkey's effort to join the EU,
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    has been supported inside Turkey
    by the Islamic pious,
  • 16:15 - 16:17
    while some secular nationalists
    were against it.
  • 16:18 - 16:20
    Well, that process
    has been a little bit blurred
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    by the fact that not all
    Europeans are that welcoming,
  • 16:23 - 16:24
    but that's another discussion.
  • 16:25 - 16:28
    But the pro-EU sentiment
    in Turkey in the past decade
  • 16:29 - 16:33
    has become almost an Islamic cause
    and supported by the Islamic liberals
  • 16:33 - 16:36
    and the secular liberals
    as well, of course.
  • 16:36 - 16:38
    And thanks to that,
  • 16:38 - 16:41
    Turkey has been able
    to reasonably create a success story
  • 16:41 - 16:46
    in which Islam and the most pious
    understandings of Islam
  • 16:46 - 16:48
    have become part of the democratic game,
  • 16:48 - 16:52
    and even contributes to the democratic
    and economic advance of the country.
  • 16:54 - 16:58
    And this has been
    an inspiring example right now
  • 16:58 - 17:01
    for some of the Islamic movements
  • 17:01 - 17:05
    or some of the countries
    in the Arab world.
  • 17:07 - 17:10
    You must have all seen the Arab Spring,
  • 17:10 - 17:13
    which began in Tunis and in Egypt.
  • 17:14 - 17:17
    Arab masses just revolted
    against their dictators.
  • 17:18 - 17:21
    They were asking for democracy;
    they were asking for freedom.
  • 17:21 - 17:24
    And they did not turn out to be
    the Islamist boogeyman
  • 17:24 - 17:29
    that the dictators were always using
    to justify their regime.
  • 17:29 - 17:32
    They said, "We want freedom;
    we want democracy.
  • 17:32 - 17:34
    We are Muslim believers,
  • 17:34 - 17:37
    but we want to be living
    as free people in free societies."
  • 17:38 - 17:40
    Of course, this is a long road.
  • 17:40 - 17:44
    Democracy is not an overnight
    achievement; it's a process.
  • 17:44 - 17:48
    But this is a promising era
    in the Muslim world.
  • 17:48 - 17:51
    And I believe that the Islamic modernism
    which began in the 19th century,
  • 17:51 - 17:53
    but which had a setback
    in the 20th century
  • 17:53 - 17:56
    because of the political
    troubles of the Muslim world,
  • 17:56 - 17:57
    is having a rebirth.
  • 17:58 - 18:02
    And I think the takeaway message
    from that would be that Islam,
  • 18:02 - 18:06
    despite some of the skeptics in the West,
    these days
  • 18:06 - 18:08
    has the potential in itself
  • 18:08 - 18:11
    to create its own way to democracy,
    create its own way to liberalism,
  • 18:12 - 18:14
    create its own way to freedom.
  • 18:14 - 18:16
    They just should be allowed
    to work for that.
  • 18:16 - 18:18
    Thanks so much.
  • 18:18 - 18:23
    (Applause)
Title:
Faith versus tradition in Islam | Mustafa Akyol | TEDxWarwick
Description:

Journalist Mustafa Akyol talks about the way that some local cultural practices (such as wearing a headscarf) have become linked, in the popular mind, to the articles of faith of Islam. Has the world's general idea of the Islamic faith focused too much on tradition, and not enough on core beliefs?

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx

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Video Language:
English
Team:
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Duration:
18:28

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