What we don’t know about Europe’s Muslim kids and why we should care | Deeyah Khan | TEDxExeter
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0:12 - 0:16When I was a child,
I knew I had superpowers. -
0:18 - 0:19That's right.
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0:19 - 0:20(Laughter)
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0:20 - 0:24I thought I was absolutely amazing
because I could understand -
0:24 - 0:27and relate to the feelings
of brown people, -
0:27 - 0:30like my grandfather,
a conservative Muslim guy. -
0:30 - 0:35And also, I could understand
my Afghan mother, my Pakistani father, -
0:35 - 0:39not so religious
but laid-back, fairly liberal. -
0:40 - 0:41And of course, I could understand
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0:41 - 0:44and relate to the feelings
of white people. -
0:44 - 0:46The white Norwegians of my country.
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0:47 - 0:49You know, white, brown, whatever --
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0:49 - 0:51I loved them all.
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0:51 - 0:52I understood them all,
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0:52 - 0:55even if they didn't always
understand each other; -
0:55 - 0:56they were all my people.
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0:57 - 1:00My father, though,
was always really worried. -
1:00 - 1:03He kept saying that
even with the best education, -
1:03 - 1:06I was not going to get a fair shake.
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1:06 - 1:10I would still face discrimination,
according to him. -
1:10 - 1:13And that the only way
to be accepted by white people -
1:13 - 1:15would be to become famous.
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1:15 - 1:19Now, mind you, he had this conversation
with me when I was seven years old. -
1:20 - 1:23So while I'm seven years old, he said,
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1:23 - 1:26"Look, so it's either got to be sports,
or it's got to be music." -
1:26 - 1:31He didn't know anything about sports --
bless him -- so it was music. -
1:31 - 1:35So when I was seven years old,
he gathered all my toys, all my dolls, -
1:35 - 1:37and he threw them all away.
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1:37 - 1:41In exchange he gave me
a crappy little Casio keyboard and -- -
1:41 - 1:43(Laughter)
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1:43 - 1:45Yeah. And singing lessons.
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1:45 - 1:49And he forced me, basically, to practice
for hours and hours every single day. -
1:49 - 1:54Very quickly, he also had me performing
for larger and larger audiences, -
1:54 - 1:57and bizarrely, I became
almost a kind of poster child -
1:57 - 2:00for Norwegian multiculturalism.
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2:00 - 2:02I felt very proud, of course.
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2:02 - 2:05Because even the newspapers at this point
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2:05 - 2:08were starting to write
nice things about brown people, -
2:08 - 2:11so I could feel
that my superpower was growing. -
2:12 - 2:15So when I was 12 years old,
walking home from school, -
2:15 - 2:16I took a little detour,
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2:16 - 2:20because I wanted to buy
my favorite sweets called "salty feet." -
2:20 - 2:21I absolutely love them.
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2:21 - 2:24So on my way into the store,
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2:24 - 2:28there was this grown white guy
in the doorway blocking my way. -
2:28 - 2:34So I tried to walk around him,
and as I did that, he stopped me -
2:34 - 2:36and he was staring at me,
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2:37 - 2:39and he spit in my face, and he said,
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2:39 - 2:40"Get out of my way
-
2:40 - 2:43you little black bitch,
you little Paki bitch, -
2:43 - 2:45go back home where you came from."
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2:46 - 2:49I was absolutely horrified.
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2:49 - 2:51I was staring at him.
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2:51 - 2:54I was too afraid
to wipe the spit off my face, -
2:55 - 2:57even as it was mixing with my tears.
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2:57 - 3:00I remember looking around,
hoping that any minute now, -
3:00 - 3:04a grown-up is going to come
and make this guy stop. -
3:04 - 3:08But instead, people kept hurrying past me
and pretended not to see me. -
3:09 - 3:12I was very confused
because I was thinking, well, -
3:13 - 3:17"My white people, come on!
Where are they? What's going on? -
3:17 - 3:19How come they're not
coming and rescuing me?" -
3:19 - 3:22So, needless to say,
I didn't buy the sweets. -
3:22 - 3:24I just ran home as fast as I could.
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3:25 - 3:27Things were still OK, though, I thought.
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3:27 - 3:31As time went on,
the more successful I became, -
3:31 - 3:35I eventually started also attracting
harassment from brown people. -
3:36 - 3:40Some men in my parent's community
felt that it was unacceptable -
3:40 - 3:44and dishonorable for a woman
to be involved in music -
3:44 - 3:46and to be so present in the media.
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3:48 - 3:53So very quickly, I was starting
to become attacked at my own concerts. -
3:54 - 3:59I remember one of the concerts,
I was onstage, I lean into the audience -
3:59 - 4:02and the last thing I see
is a young brown face, -
4:02 - 4:06and the next thing I know is some sort
of chemical is thrown in my eyes -
4:06 - 4:09and I remember I couldn't really see
and my eyes were watering -
4:09 - 4:11but I kept singing anyway.
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4:12 - 4:16I was spit in the face in the streets
of Oslo, this time by brown men. -
4:17 - 4:20They even tried to kidnap me at one point.
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4:20 - 4:22The death threats were endless.
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4:22 - 4:26I remember one older bearded guy
stopped me in the street one time, -
4:26 - 4:28and he said, "The reason
I hate you so much -
4:28 - 4:30is because you make our daughters think
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4:30 - 4:32they can do whatever they want."
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4:33 - 4:36A younger guy warned me to watch my back.
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4:36 - 4:39He said music is un-Islamic
and the job of whores, -
4:39 - 4:42and if you keep this up,
you are going to be raped -
4:42 - 4:47and your stomach will be cut out so that
another whore like you will not be born. -
4:48 - 4:50Again, I was so confused.
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4:50 - 4:52I couldn't understand what was going on.
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4:52 - 4:56My brown people now starting
to treat me like this -- how come? -
4:56 - 4:59Instead of bridging the worlds,
the two worlds, -
4:59 - 5:02I felt like I was falling
between my two worlds. -
5:03 - 5:05I suppose, for me, spit was kryptonite.
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5:07 - 5:09So by the time I was 17 years old,
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5:09 - 5:12the death threats were endless,
and the harassment was constant. -
5:12 - 5:15It got so bad, at one point
my mother sat me down and said, -
5:15 - 5:19"Look, we can no longer protect you,
we can no longer keep you safe, -
5:19 - 5:20so you're going to have to go."
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5:21 - 5:26So I bought a one-way ticket to London,
I packed my suitcase and I left. -
5:27 - 5:31My biggest heartbreak at that point
was that nobody said anything. -
5:31 - 5:33I had a very public exit from Norway.
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5:34 - 5:37My brown people, my white people --
nobody said anything. -
5:37 - 5:40Nobody said, "Hold on, this is wrong.
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5:41 - 5:44Support this girl, protect this girl,
because she is one of us." -
5:44 - 5:46Nobody said that.
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5:46 - 5:49Instead, I felt like --
you know at the airport, -
5:50 - 5:53on the baggage carousel
you have these different suitcases -
5:53 - 5:54going around and around,
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5:54 - 5:57and there's always
that one suitcase left at the end, -
5:57 - 6:00the one that nobody wants,
the one that nobody comes to claim. -
6:00 - 6:01I felt like that.
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6:02 - 6:05I'd never felt so alone.
I'd never felt so lost. -
6:07 - 6:11So, after coming to London,
I did eventually resume my music career. -
6:12 - 6:15Different place, but unfortunately
the same old story. -
6:16 - 6:19I remember a message sent to me
saying that I was going to be killed -
6:19 - 6:23and that rivers of blood
were going to flow -
6:23 - 6:26and that I was going to be raped
many times before I died. -
6:26 - 6:27By this point, I have to say,
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6:28 - 6:30I was actually getting used
to messages like this, -
6:30 - 6:34but what became different was that
now they started threatening my family. -
6:36 - 6:41So once again, I packed my suitcase,
I left music and I moved to the US. -
6:41 - 6:43I'd had enough.
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6:43 - 6:45I didn't want to have anything
to do with this anymore. -
6:45 - 6:48And I was certainly not
going to be killed for something -
6:48 - 6:51that wasn't even my dream --
it was my father's choice. -
6:53 - 6:56So I kind of got lost.
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6:56 - 6:58I kind of fell apart.
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6:58 - 7:00But I decided that what I wanted to do
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7:00 - 7:03is spend the next
however many years of my life -
7:03 - 7:05supporting young people
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7:05 - 7:08and to try to be there in some small way,
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7:08 - 7:10whatever way that I could.
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7:10 - 7:13I started volunteering
for various organizations -
7:13 - 7:18that were working
with young Muslims inside of Europe. -
7:19 - 7:22And, to my surprise, what I found was
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7:22 - 7:26so many of these young people
were suffering and struggling. -
7:27 - 7:31They were facing so many problems
with their families and their communities -
7:31 - 7:34who seemed to care more
about their honor and their reputation -
7:34 - 7:37than the happiness
and the lives of their own kids. -
7:39 - 7:43I started feeling like maybe I wasn't
so alone, maybe I wasn't so weird. -
7:43 - 7:45Maybe there are more
of my people out there. -
7:46 - 7:48The thing is, what most people
don't understand -
7:48 - 7:53is that there are so many of us
growing up in Europe -
7:53 - 7:55who are not free to be ourselves.
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7:55 - 7:57We're not allowed to be who we are.
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7:58 - 8:02We are not free to marry
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8:02 - 8:05or to be in relationships
with people that we choose. -
8:05 - 8:07We can't even pick our own career.
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8:07 - 8:11This is the norm in the Muslim
heartlands of Europe. -
8:11 - 8:14Even in the freest societies
in the world, we're not free. -
8:14 - 8:18Our lives, our dreams, our future
does not belong to us, -
8:18 - 8:22it belongs to our parents
and their community. -
8:22 - 8:25I found endless stories of young people
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8:26 - 8:29who are lost to all of us,
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8:29 - 8:30who are invisible to all of us
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8:30 - 8:33but who are suffering,
and they are suffering alone. -
8:34 - 8:39Kids we are losing to forced marriages,
to honor-based violence and abuse. -
8:40 - 8:44Eventually, I realized after several
years of working with these young people, -
8:44 - 8:46that I will not be able to keep running.
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8:46 - 8:50I can't spend the rest of my life
being scared and hiding -
8:51 - 8:53and that I'm actually
going to have to do something. -
8:54 - 8:58And I also realized
that my silence, our silence, -
8:58 - 9:00allows abuse like this to continue.
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9:01 - 9:05So I decided that I wanted to put
my childhood superpower to some use -
9:05 - 9:10by trying to make people on the different
sides of these issues understand -
9:10 - 9:15what it's like to be a young person stuck
between your family and your country. -
9:16 - 9:19So I started making films,
and I started telling these stories. -
9:20 - 9:24And I also wanted people to understand
the deadly consequences of us -
9:24 - 9:26not taking these problems seriously.
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9:27 - 9:29So the first film I made was about Banaz.
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9:30 - 9:33She was a 17-year-old
Kurdish girl in London. -
9:34 - 9:37She was obedient, she did
whatever her parents wanted. -
9:37 - 9:40She tried to do everything right.
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9:40 - 9:42She married some guy
that her parents chose for her, -
9:42 - 9:45even though he beat
and raped her constantly. -
9:46 - 9:49And when she tried to go
to her family for help, they said, -
9:49 - 9:51"Well, you got to go back
and be a better wife." -
9:51 - 9:54Because they didn't want
a divorced daughter on their hands -
9:54 - 9:57because, of course,
that would bring dishonor on the family. -
9:58 - 10:01She was beaten so badly
her ears would bleed, -
10:02 - 10:07and when she finally left
and she found a young man that she chose -
10:07 - 10:09and she fell in love with,
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10:09 - 10:11the community and the family found out
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10:11 - 10:12and she disappeared.
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10:14 - 10:16She was found three months later.
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10:16 - 10:21She'd been stuffed into a suitcase
and buried underneath the house. -
10:25 - 10:29She had been strangled,
she had been beaten to death -
10:30 - 10:35by three men, three cousins,
on the orders of her father and uncle. -
10:35 - 10:38The added tragedy of Banaz's story
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10:38 - 10:44is that she had gone to the police
in England five times asking for help, -
10:44 - 10:47telling them that she was
going to be killed by her family. -
10:47 - 10:50The police didn't believe her
so they didn't do anything. -
10:51 - 10:52And the problem with this
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10:52 - 10:56is that not only are so many of our kids
facing these problems -
10:56 - 10:59within their families
and within their families' communities, -
10:59 - 11:03but they're also meeting misunderstandings
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11:04 - 11:08and apathy in the countries
that they grow up in. -
11:09 - 11:14When their own families betray them,
they look to the rest of us, -
11:14 - 11:16and when we don't understand,
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11:16 - 11:17we lose them.
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11:19 - 11:22So while I was making this film,
several people said to me, -
11:22 - 11:24"Well, Deeyah, you know,
this is just their culture, -
11:24 - 11:27this is just what those people
do to their kids -
11:27 - 11:28and we can't really interfere."
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11:29 - 11:33I can assure you
being murdered is not my culture. -
11:34 - 11:35You know?
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11:35 - 11:37And surely people who look like me,
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11:37 - 11:39young women who come
from backgrounds like me, -
11:39 - 11:43should be subject to the same rights,
the same protections -
11:43 - 11:46as anybody else in our country, why not?
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11:48 - 11:53So, for my next film,
I wanted to try and understand -
11:53 - 11:56why some of our young
Muslim kids in Europe -
11:56 - 11:58are drawn to extremism and violence.
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11:58 - 12:00But with that topic,
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12:00 - 12:03I also recognized that I was going
to have to face my worst fear: -
12:05 - 12:06the brown men with beards.
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12:08 - 12:12Similar men to the ones that have
hounded me for most of my life. -
12:13 - 12:16Men that I've been afraid of
most of my life. -
12:16 - 12:19Men that I've also deeply disliked,
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12:19 - 12:20for many, many years.
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12:21 - 12:25So I spent the next two years
interviewing convicted terrorists, -
12:25 - 12:27jihadis and former extremists.
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12:27 - 12:31What I already knew,
what was very obvious already, -
12:31 - 12:36was that religion, politics,
Europe's colonial baggage, -
12:36 - 12:40also Western foreign policy
failures of recent years, -
12:40 - 12:42were all a part of the picture.
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12:42 - 12:46But what I was more interested
in finding out was what are the human, -
12:46 - 12:47what are the personal reasons
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12:47 - 12:51why some of our young people
are susceptible to groups like this. -
12:53 - 12:57And what really surprised me
was that I found wounded human beings. -
12:59 - 13:02Instead of the monsters
that I was looking for, -
13:02 - 13:03that I was hoping to find --
-
13:03 - 13:07quite frankly because
it would have been very satisfying -- -
13:07 - 13:08I found broken people.
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13:09 - 13:11Just like Banaz,
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13:11 - 13:14I found that these young men
were torn apart -
13:14 - 13:17from trying to bridge the gaps
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13:17 - 13:20between their families
and the countries that they were born in. -
13:21 - 13:25And what I also learned
is that extremist groups, terrorist groups -
13:25 - 13:28are taking advantage
of these feelings of our young people -
13:28 - 13:32and channeling that -- cynically --
channeling that toward violence. -
13:32 - 13:34"Come to us," they say.
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13:34 - 13:37"Reject both sides,
your family and your country -
13:37 - 13:38because they reject you.
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13:38 - 13:42For your family, their honor
is more important than you -
13:42 - 13:43and for your country,
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13:43 - 13:49a real Norwegian, Brit or a French person
will always be white and never you." -
13:50 - 13:53They're also promising our young people
the things that they crave: -
13:53 - 13:58significance, heroism,
a sense of belonging and purpose, -
13:58 - 14:00a community that loves and accepts them.
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14:01 - 14:04They make the powerless feel powerful.
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14:04 - 14:09The invisible and the silent
are finally seen and heard. -
14:12 - 14:14This is what they're doing
for our young people. -
14:14 - 14:18Why are these groups doing this
for our young people and not us? -
14:21 - 14:22The thing is,
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14:22 - 14:26I'm not trying to justify
-
14:26 - 14:29or excuse any of the violence.
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14:29 - 14:33What I am trying to say
is that we have to understand -
14:33 - 14:36why some of our young people
are attracted to this. -
14:38 - 14:40I would like to also show you, actually --
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14:40 - 14:43these are childhood photos
of some of the guys in the film. -
14:45 - 14:48What really struck me
is that so many of them -- -
14:49 - 14:51I never would have thought this --
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14:51 - 14:54but so many of them
have absent or abusive fathers. -
14:55 - 14:57And several of these young guys
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14:57 - 15:01ended up finding caring
and compassionate father figures -
15:01 - 15:03within these extremist groups.
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15:05 - 15:09I also found men
brutalized by racist violence, -
15:09 - 15:11but who found a way
to stop feeling like victims -
15:12 - 15:13by becoming violent themselves.
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15:13 - 15:18In fact, I found something,
to my horror, that I recognized. -
15:18 - 15:25I found the same feelings that I felt
as a 17-year-old as I fled from Norway. -
15:26 - 15:29The same confusion, the same sorrow,
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15:29 - 15:32the same feeling of being betrayed
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15:34 - 15:36and not belonging to anyone.
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15:39 - 15:42The same feeling of being lost
and torn between cultures. -
15:43 - 15:45Having said that,
I did not choose destruction, -
15:45 - 15:48I chose to pick up a camera
instead of a gun. -
15:48 - 15:52And the reason I did that
is because of my superpower. -
15:52 - 15:56I could see that understanding
is the answer, instead of violence. -
15:56 - 15:58Seeing human beings
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15:58 - 16:02with all their virtues and all their flaws
-
16:02 - 16:04instead of continuing the caricatures:
-
16:04 - 16:06the us and them, the villains and victims.
-
16:06 - 16:09I'd also finally
come to terms with the fact -
16:09 - 16:12that my two cultures
didn't have to be on a collision course -
16:12 - 16:15but instead became a space
where I found my own voice. -
16:16 - 16:19I stopped feeling
like I had to pick a side, -
16:19 - 16:21but this took me many, many years.
-
16:22 - 16:24There are so many
of our young people today -
16:24 - 16:26who are struggling with these same issues,
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16:26 - 16:28and they're struggling with this alone.
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16:30 - 16:32And this leaves them open like wounds.
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16:33 - 16:36And for some, the worldview
of radical Islam -
16:36 - 16:39becomes the infection
that festers in these open wounds. -
16:41 - 16:44There's an African proverb that says,
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16:46 - 16:49"If the young are not
initiated into the village, -
16:49 - 16:52they will burn it down
just to feel its warmth." -
16:53 - 16:55I would like to ask --
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16:56 - 16:58to Muslim parents and Muslim communities,
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16:58 - 17:01will you love and care for your children
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17:01 - 17:04without forcing them
to meet your expectations? -
17:04 - 17:06Can you choose them instead of your honor?
-
17:06 - 17:10Can you understand
why they're so angry and alienated -
17:10 - 17:12when you put your honor
before their happiness? -
17:13 - 17:15Can you try to be a friend to your child
-
17:15 - 17:17so that they can trust you
-
17:17 - 17:19and want to share with you
their experiences, -
17:19 - 17:22rather than having
to seek it somewhere else? -
17:22 - 17:26And to our young people
tempted by extremism, -
17:27 - 17:30can you acknowledge
that your rage is fueled by pain? -
17:32 - 17:35Will you find the strength
to resist those cynical old men -
17:35 - 17:38who want to use your blood
for their own profits? -
17:39 - 17:41Can you find a way to live?
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17:42 - 17:44Can you see that the sweetest revenge
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17:44 - 17:48is for you to live
a happy, full and free life? -
17:48 - 17:50A life defined by you and nobody else.
-
17:51 - 17:54Why do you want to become
just another dead Muslim kid? -
17:55 - 17:59And for the rest of us, when will we start
listening to our young people? -
18:01 - 18:02How can we support them
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18:02 - 18:06in redirecting their pain
into something more constructive? -
18:07 - 18:08They think we don't like them.
-
18:08 - 18:11They think we don't care
what happens to them. -
18:11 - 18:13They think we don't accept them.
-
18:13 - 18:16Can we find a way
to make them feel differently? -
18:17 - 18:20What will it take for us
to see them and notice them -
18:20 - 18:25before they become either the victims
or the perpetrators of violence? -
18:25 - 18:29Can we make ourselves care about them
and consider them to be our own? -
18:29 - 18:34And not just be outraged when the victims
of violence look like ourselves? -
18:34 - 18:39Can we find a way to reject hatred
and heal the divisions between us? -
18:39 - 18:43The thing is we cannot afford
to give up on each other or on our kids, -
18:43 - 18:45even if they've given up on us.
-
18:45 - 18:47We are all in this together.
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18:47 - 18:53And in the long term, revenge and violence
will not work against extremists. -
18:54 - 18:57Terrorists want us
to huddle in our houses in fear, -
18:57 - 19:00closing our doors and our hearts.
-
19:00 - 19:03They want us to tear open
more wounds in our societies -
19:03 - 19:07so that they can use them
to spread their infection more widely. -
19:07 - 19:10They want us to become like them:
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19:10 - 19:12intolerant, hateful and cruel.
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19:14 - 19:17The day after the Paris attacks,
-
19:17 - 19:20a friend of mine
sent this photo of her daughter. -
19:21 - 19:23This is a white girl and an Arab girl.
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19:23 - 19:25They're best friends.
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19:25 - 19:29This image is the kryptonite
for extremists. -
19:31 - 19:34These two little girls
with their superpowers -
19:34 - 19:36are showing the way forward
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19:36 - 19:39towards a society
that we need to build together, -
19:40 - 19:44a society that includes and supports,
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19:45 - 19:47rather than rejects our kids.
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19:48 - 19:49Thank you for listening.
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19:49 - 19:56(Applause)
- Title:
- What we don’t know about Europe’s Muslim kids and why we should care | Deeyah Khan | TEDxExeter
- Description:
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Aged 17, Deeyah fled from Norway confused, lost and torn between cultures. Unlike some young Muslims she picked up a camera instead of a gun. She now uses her camera (and her superpower) to shed light on the clash of cultures between Muslim parents who prioritise honour and their children's desire for freedom. She argues that we need to understand what is happening to fight the pull to extremism.
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At TEDxExeter 2016 our speakers encapsulated the idea of movement, that grappling with humanity’s toughest questions requires first a vision, a dream, and then action.Video Production Chromatrope (http://chromatrope.co.uk/)
Production Manager Andy Robertson (http://www.youtube.com/familygamertv)Deeyah Khan is a critically acclaimed music producer and Emmy and Peabody award-winning documentary film director. Her work highlights human rights, women's voices and freedom of expression. Her skill as a multidisciplinary artist led her to film and music as the language for her social activism. Born in Norway to immigrant parents of Pashtun and Punjabi ancestry, the experience of living between different cultures, both the challenges and the beauty, dominates her artistic vision.
Her 2012 multi-award winning documentary Banaz: A Love Story chronicles the life and death of Banaz Mahmod. Her second film the Bafta-nominated Jihad involved two years of interviews and filming with Islamic extremists, convicted terrorists and former jihadis.
Deeyah is the founder of social purpose arts and media production company, Fuuse which works to create intercultural dialogue and understanding by confronting the most complex and controversial topics, and sharing alternative views and excluded voices.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 19:58