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Get what you want without threats | Tali Sharot | TEDxCambridge

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    So, we all have some behavior
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    that we would like to change
    about ourselves.
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    And we certainly all want
    to help someone else
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    change their behavior in a positive way.
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    So, maybe it's your kid,
    your spouse, your colleague.
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    So I want to share
    some new research with you
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    that I think reveals
    something really important
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    about what gets people
    to change their behavior.
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    But before I do that,
    let's zoom in on one strategy
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    that I think you probably use a lot.
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    So, let's say you're trying
    to stop yourself from snacking.
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    What do you tell yourself?
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    Well, most people,
    in a monologue, will say,
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    "Beware. You'll be fat."
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    And if this was your kid,
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    you would probably tell him
    that smoking kills
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    and, by the way, he's in big, big trouble.
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    (Laughter)
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    So, what we're trying to do here
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    is we're trying to scare
    ourselves and others
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    into changing their behavior.
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    And it's not just us.
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    Warnings and threats are really common
    in health campaigns, in policy.
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    It's because we all share
    this deep-rooted belief
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    that if you threaten people,
    if fear is induced,
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    it will get them to act.
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    And it seems like a really
    reasonable assumption,
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    except for the fact that the science shows
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    that warnings have
    very limited impact on behavior.
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    So, graphic images
    on cigarette packets, for example,
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    do not deter smokers from smoking,
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    and one study found
    that, after looking at those images,
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    quitting actually became
    a lower priority for smokers.
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    So, I'm not saying that warnings
    and threats never work,
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    but what I'm saying is, on average,
    they seem to have a very limited impact.
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    And so, the question is: why?
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    Why are we resistant to warnings?
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    Well, if you think about animals,
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    when you induce fear in an animal,
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    the most common response you will see
    is freezing or fleeing;
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    fighting, not as much.
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    And so, humans are the same.
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    So if something scares us,
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    we tend to shut down and we try
    to eliminate the negative feelings.
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    So, we might use rationalizations.
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    For example, you might tell yourself:
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    "My grandpa smoked. He lived to be 90.
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    So, I have really good genes
    and absolutely nothing to worry about."
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    And this process can actually
    make you feel more resilient
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    than you did before,
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    which is why warnings
    sometimes have this boomerang effect.
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    In other times, we simply
    put our head in the ground.
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    (Laughter)
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    Take the stock market for example.
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    Do you know when people
    pull their head out of the ground
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    to look at their accounts --
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    not to make a transaction,
    just to log in to check their account?
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    So, what you're seeing here, in black,
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    is the S&P 500 over two years,
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    and in gray, is the number of times
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    that people logged in
    to their account just to check.
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    And this is data from Karlsson,
    Loewenstein & Seppi,
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    it's control [data] for all
    the obvious confounds.
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    So, what do we see?
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    When the market is high,
    people log in all the time,
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    because positive information
    makes you feel good,
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    so you seek it out.
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    And when the market is low,
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    people avoid logging in,
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    because negative information
    makes us feel bad,
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    so we try to avoid it altogether.
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    And all this is true
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    as long as bad information
    can reasonably be avoided.
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    So, what you don't see here
    is what happened a few months later,
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    in the financial collapse of 2008,
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    when the market went drastically down
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    and that was when people
    started logging in frantically,
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    but it was a bit too late.
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    So, you can think about it like this --
    it's not just finance:
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    In many different parts of our life,
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    (Laughter)
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    we have warning signs
    and bad behaviors now.
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    And they could potentially lead
    to all these bad outcomes later,
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    but not necessarily so,
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    because there are different routs
    from your present to your future, right?
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    It can go this way, it can go that way.
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    And, as time passes,
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    you gather more and more information
    about where the wind is blowing.
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    (Laughter)
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    And, at any point, you can intervene
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    and you could potentially
    change the outcome,
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    but that takes energy
    and you might tell yourself:
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    "What's the point about worrying
    about something that might happen?
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    It might not happen."
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    Until we reach this point,
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    at which time you do jump into action,
    but sometimes it's a little bit too late.
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    So, we wanted to know, in my lab,
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    what type of information
    does leak into people.
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    So, we conducted an experiment
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    where we asked approximately 100 people
    to estimate the likelihood
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    of 80 different negative events
    that might happen to them in the future.
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    So, for example, I might ask you:
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    "What is the likelihood that you'll suffer
    hearing loss in your future?"
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    And let's say you think it's about 50%.
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    Then, I give you the opinion
    of two different experts.
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    So, expert A tells you:
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    "You know, for someone like you,
    I think it's only 40%."
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    So, they give you
    a rosier view of your future.
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    Expert B says:
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    "You know, for someone like you,
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    I actually think
    it's about 60%. It's worse."
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    So, they give you
    a bleaker view of your future.
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    What should you do?
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    Well, you shouldn't change
    your beliefs, right?
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    Wrong.
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    What we find is that people
    tend to change their beliefs
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    towards a more desirable opinion.
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    In other words, people listen
    to the positive information.
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    Now, this study was conducted
    on college students, so you might say:
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    "Well, college students are delusional,
    right? We all know that."
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    (Laughter)
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    And surely, as we grow older,
    we grow wiser.
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    So we said: "OK, let's test that.
    Does this really generalize?
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    Does it generalize
    to your kid, to your parent?
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    Does it generalize to your spouse?"
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    And so, we tested people
    from the age of 10 until the age of 80,
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    and the answer was yes.
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    In all these age groups,
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    people take in information
    they want to hear
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    -- like someone telling you
    you're more attractive than you thought --
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    than information
    that they don't want to hear.
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    And the ability to learn from good news
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    remained quite stable
    throughout the life span,
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    but the ability to learn from bad news,
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    that changes as you age.
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    So, what we found was
    that kids and teenagers
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    were the worse at learning from bad news,
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    and the ability became
    better and better as people aged.
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    But then, around the age of 40,
    around midlife,
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    it started deteriorating again.
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    So, what this means
    is that the most vulnerable populations,
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    kids and teenagers on the one hand,
    and the elderly on the other hand,
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    they're the least likely
    to accurately learn from warnings.
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    But what you can see here
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    is that it doesn't matter
    what age you are.
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    You can be 20, 30, 40, 50 or 60;
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    everyone takes in information
    they want to hear
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    more than information that they don't.
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    And so, we end up
    with a view like this of ourselves.
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    (Laughter)
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    Our mistake as teachers,
    as mentors, as employers
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    is that, instead of working
    with this positive image
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    that people so effortfully maintain,
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    we try and put a clear mirror
    in front of them.
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    We tell them: "You know,
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    the image is just going to get worse
    and worse and worse."
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    And it doesn't work.
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    It doesn't work because the brain
    will frantically try to distort the image,
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    using Photoshop and fancy lenses,
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    until it gets the image it's happy with.
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    But what would happen
    if we went along with how our brain works
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    and not against it?
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    Take handwashing, for example.
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    We all know that handwashing
    is the number one way
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    to prevent the spread of disease,
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    and this is really important in hospitals.
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    So, in a hospital
    here in the United States,
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    a camera was installed
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    to see how often medical staff
    do, in fact, sanitize their hands
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    before and after entering
    a patient's room.
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    Now, the medical staff knew
    a camera was installed.
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    Nevertheless, only one in ten
    washed their hands
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    before and after entering
    a patient's room.
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    But then, an intervention was introduced:
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    an electronic board
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    that told the medical staff
    how well they were doing.
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    Every time you washed your hands,
    the numbers went up on the screen
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    and it showed you
    your rate of your current shift
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    and the rate of the weekly staff.
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    And what happened? Boom.
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    Compliance raised to 90%,
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    which is absolutely amazing.
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    And the research staff
    were amazed as well,
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    and they made sure to replicate it
    in another division in the hospital.
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    Again, the same results.
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    So, why does this
    intervention work so well?
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    It works well
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    because, instead of using warnings
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    about bad things that can happen
    in the future, like disease,
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    it uses three principles that we know
    really drive your mind and your behavior.
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    Let me explain.
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    The first one is social incentives.
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    In the hospital study,
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    the medical staff could see
    what other people were doing.
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    They can see the rates of the shift,
    the rate of the week.
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    We're social people, we really care
    what other people are doing,
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    we want to do the same
    and we want to do it better.
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    This is an image from a study
    that we conducted,
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    led by PhD student Micah Edelson,
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    and what it's showing you is a signal
    in the emotional center of your brain
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    when you hear about the opinion of others.
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    And what we found was
    that this signal can predict
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    how likely you are
    to conform at a later time,
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    how likely you are
    to change your behavior.
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    So, the British government
    are using this principle
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    to get people to pay taxes on time.
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    In an old letter that they sent to people
    who "forgot" to pay taxes on time,
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    they simply stressed
    how important it was pay taxes,
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    and that didn't help.
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    Then, they added one sentence,
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    and that sentence said:
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    "Nine out of ten people in Britain
    pay their taxes on time."
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    And that one sentence enhanced compliance
    within that group by 15%,
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    and it's thought to bring
    into the British government
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    5.6 billion pounds.
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    So, highlighting what other people
    are doing is a really strong incentive.
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    The other principle is immediate rewards.
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    So,
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    every time the staff washed their hand,
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    they could see the numbers go up
    on the board and it made them feel good.
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    And knowing that in advance
    made them do something
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    that they, otherwise, may not want to do.
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    Now, this works because we value
    immediate rewards,
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    rewards that we can get now,
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    more than rewards
    that we can get in the future.
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    And people tend to think it's because
    we don't care about the future,
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    but that's completely wrong,
    we all care about our future, right?
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    We want to be happy and healthy
    in the future, we want to be successful,
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    but the future is so far away.
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    I mean, maybe you'll behave badly now
    and you'll be fine in the future,
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    and maybe you'll be altogether dead.
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    (Laughter)
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    So, the here-and-now you
    would rather have that tangible drink,
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    that tangible T-bone,
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    rather than something
    that's uncertain in the future.
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    If you think about it,
    it's not altogether irrational, right?
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    You're choosing something sure now
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    rather than something
    that is unsure in the future.
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    But what will happen
    if you reward people now
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    for doing actions that are good
    for them in the future?
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    Studies show that giving people
    immediate rewards
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    make them more likely to quit smoking,
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    more likely to start exercising,
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    and this effect lasts
    for at least six months,
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    because not smoking
    becomes associated with a reward,
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    and exercising becomes
    associated with a reward,
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    and it becomes a habit,
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    it becomes a lifestyle.
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    So, we can reward ourselves and others now
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    for behaving in ways
    that are good for us in the future
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    and that's a way for us
    to bridge the temporal gap.
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    And the third principle
    is progress monitoring.
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    So, the electronic board focused
    the medical staff attention
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    on improving their performance.
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    This is an image from a study
    that we conducted,
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    that shows you brain activity
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    suggestive of efficient coding
    of positive information about the future.
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    And what we found was that the brain
    does a really good job at this,
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    but it doesn't do such a good job
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    at processing negative information
    about the future.
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    So, what does this mean?
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    It means that, if you're trying
    to get people's attention,
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    you might want to highlight
    the progress, not the decline.
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    So, for example,
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    if you take that kid with the cigarette,
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    you might want to tell them:
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    "You know, if you stop smoking,
    you'll become better at sports."
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    Highlight the progress, not the decline.
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    Now, before I sum up, let me just share
    this small anecdote with you.
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    A few weeks ago, I got home
    and I found this bill on my fridge.
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    And was really surprised because
    there's never any bills on my fridge.
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    So, I was wondering why my husband
    decided to put that on our fridge.
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    And so, looking at the bill, I could see
    that what this bill was trying to do
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    is get me to be more efficient
    with my electricity use.
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    And how was it doing it?
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    Social incentives, immediate rewards
    and progress monitoring.
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    Let me show you.
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    Here are the social incentives.
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    In gray is the energy use
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    on the average energy use
    of people in my neighborhood.
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    And in blue is my energy use,
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    and in green is the most
    efficient neighbor.
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    And my reaction to this was --
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    my immediate reaction was:
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    "I'm a little bit better than average"
    (Laughter)
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    -- a tiny bit, but still...
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    and my husband had
    exactly the same reaction --
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    and "I want to get to the green bar."
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    And then, I got a smiley face.
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    That was my immediate reward and it was
    telling me, "You're doing good,"
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    and it made me want
    to put this on my fridge.
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    (Laughter)
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    And although I have this one smiley face,
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    I can see an opportunity there
    to get two smiley faces.
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    (Laughter)
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    So, there's an opportunity for progress
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    and it's showing me my progress
    throughout the year,
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    how my energy use changes
    throughout the year.
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    And the last thing this bill gave me:
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    it gave me a sense of control.
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    So, it gave me a sense of I was
    in control of my use of electricity.
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    And that is a really important thing,
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    if you try to get people
    to change their behavior,
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    because the brain is constantly trying
    to seek ways to control its environment.
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    It's one of the principles
    of what the brain is actually doing.
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    And so, giving people a sense of control
    is a really important motivator.
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    OK. So, what am I not saying?
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    I'm not saying that we do not need
    to communicate risks,
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    and I'm not saying
    that there's one-solution-fits-all,
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    but I am saying that, if we want
    to motivate change,
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    we might want to rethink how we do it,
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    because fear, the fear of losing
    your health, the fear of losing money,
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    induces inaction,
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    while the thrill of a gain induces action.
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    And so, to change behavior
    in ourselves and in others,
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    we may want to try
    these positive strategies
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    rather than threats,
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    which really capitalize
    on the human tendency
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    to seek progress.
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    Thank you.
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Title:
Get what you want without threats | Tali Sharot | TEDxCambridge
Description:

This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.
Research shows that threats and warnings have a very limited impact on behavior. So what does make us change our actions? Tali Sharot reveals three ingredients to getting what you want without threats.
Dr. Tali Sharot is a neuroscientist at University College London and the director of the Affective Brain Lab.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDxTalks
Duration:
16:49

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