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The living tech we need to support human life on other planets

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    For thousands of years,
    well, really probably millions of years,
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    our ancestors have looked up at the sky
    and wondered what's up there,
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    and they've also started to wonder,
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    hmm, could we be alone in this planet?
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    Now, I'm fortunate that I get to get paid
    to actually ask some of those questions,
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    and sort of bad news for you,
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    your tax dollars are paying me
    to try to answer some of those questions.
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    But then, about 10 years ago,
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    I was told, I mean asked,
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    if I would start to look at the technology
    to help get us off planet,
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    and so that's what I'm going
    to talk to you about today.
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    So playing to the local crowd,
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    this is what it looks like
    in your day-to-day life in Boston,
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    but as you start to go off planet,
    things look very, very different.
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    So there we are,
    hovering above the WGBH studios.
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    And here's a very famous picture
    of the Earthrise from the Moon,
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    and you can see the Earth
    starting to recede.
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    And then what I love is this picture
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    that was taken from the surface of Mars
    looking back at the Earth.
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    Can anyone find the Earth?
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    I'm going to help you out a little.
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    (Laughter)
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    Yeah.
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    The point of showing this
    is that when people start to go to Mars,
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    they're not going to be able
    to keep calling in
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    and be micromanaged
    the way people on a space station are.
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    They're going to have to be independent.
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    So even though they're up there,
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    there are going to be all sorts of things
    that they're going to need,
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    just like people on Earth
    need things like, oh, transportation,
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    life support, food, clothing and so on.
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    But unlike on Earth,
    they are also going to need oxygen.
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    They're going to have to deal with about
    a third of the gravity that we have here.
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    They're going to have to worry
    about habitats, power, heat, light
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    and radiation protection,
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    something that we don't actually
    worry about nearly as much on the Earth,
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    because we have this beautiful
    atmosphere and magnetosphere.
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    The problem with that is
    that we also have a lot of constraints.
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    So the biggest one for us is upmass,
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    and the number that I've used for years
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    is it costs about 10,000 dollars to launch
    a can of Coke into low Earth orbit.
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    The problem is, there you are
    with 10,000 dollars later,
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    and you're still in low Earth orbit.
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    You're not even at the Moon
    or Mars or anything else.
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    So you're going to have to
    try to figure out
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    how to keep the mass as low as possible
    so you don't have to launch it.
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    But on top of that cost issue
    with the mass,
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    you also have problems of storage
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    and flexibility and reliability.
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    You can't just get there and say,
    "Oops, I forgot to bring,"
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    because Amazon.com
    just does not deliver to Mars.
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    So you better be prepared.
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    So what is the solution for this?
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    And I'm going to propose to you
    for the rest of this talk
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    that the solution actually is life,
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    and when you start to look
    at life as a technology,
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    you realize, ah, that's it,
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    that's exactly what we needed.
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    This plant here, like every person here
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    and every one of your dogs and cats
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    and plants and so on,
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    all started as a single cell.
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    So imagine, you're starting
    as a very low upmass object
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    and then growing into something
    a good deal bigger.
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    Now, my hero Charles Darwin,
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    of course, reminds us that there's
    no such thing as a designer in biology,
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    but what if we now have the technology
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    to design biology,
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    maybe even design,
    oh, whole new life-forms
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    that can do things for us
    that we couldn't have imagined otherwise?
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    So years ago, I was asked
    to start to sell this program,
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    and while I was doing that,
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    I was put in front of a panel at NASA,
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    as you might sort of imagine,
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    a bunch of people in suits
    and white shirts and pencil protectors,
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    and I did this sort of crazy, wild,
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    "This is all the next great thing,"
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    and I thought they would be blown over,
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    and instead the chairman of the committee
    just looked at me straight in the eye,
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    and said, "So what's the big idea?"
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    So I was like, "OK, you want Star Trek?
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    We'll do Star Trek."
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    And so let me tell you
    what the big idea is.
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    We've used organisms
    to make biomaterials for years.
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    So here's a great picture
    taken outside of Glasgow,
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    and you can see lots
    of great biomaterials there.
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    There are trees that you could
    use to build houses.
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    There are sheep where you
    can get your wool from.
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    You could get leather from the sheep.
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    Just quickly glancing around the room,
    I'll bet there's no one in this room
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    that doesn't have some kind of animal
    or plant product on them,
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    some kind of biomaterial.
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    But you know what?
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    We're not going to take sheep
    and trees and stuff to Mars.
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    That's nuts, because
    of the upmass problem.
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    But we are going to take things like this.
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    This is Bacillus subtilis.
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    Those white dots that you see are spores.
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    This happens to be a bacterium
    that can form incredibly resistant spores,
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    and when I say incredibly resistant,
    they've proven themselves.
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    Bacillus subtilis spores have been flown
    on what was called LDEF,
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    Long Duration Exposure Facility,
    for almost six years
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    and some of them survived that in space.
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    Unbelievable, a lot better
    than any of us can do.
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    So why not just take the capabilities,
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    like to make wood or to make wool
    or spider silk or whatever,
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    and put them in Bacillus subtilis spores,
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    and take those with you off planet?
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    So what are you going to do
    when you're off planet?
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    Here's an iconic picture of Buzz Aldrin
    looking back at the Eagle
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    when he landed, oh, it was almost
    50 years ago, on the surface of the Moon.
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    Now if you're going to go
    to the Moon for three days
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    and you're the first person to set foot,
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    yeah, you can live in a tin can,
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    but you wouldn't want to do that
    for, say, a year and a half.
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    So I did actually a calculation,
    being in California.
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    I looked at what the average size
    of a cell at Alcatraz is,
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    and I have news for you,
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    the volume in the Eagle there,
    in the Lunar Module,
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    was about the size of a cell at Alcatraz
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    if it were only five feet high.
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    So incredibly cramped living quarters.
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    You just can't ask a human
    to stay in there for long periods of time.
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    So why not take these biomaterials
    and make something?
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    So here's an image
    that a colleague of mine
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    who is an architect, Chris Maurer,
    has done of what we've been proposing,
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    and we'll get to the point
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    of why I've been standing up here
    holding something
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    that looks like a dried sandwich
    this whole lecture.
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    So we've proposed that the solution
    to the habitat problem on Mars
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    could just simply lie in a fungus.
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    So I'm now probably
    going to turn off everyone
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    from ever eating a mushroom again.
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    So let's talk about fungi for a second.
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    So you're probably familiar
    with this fruiting body of the fungus.
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    That's the mushroom.
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    But what we're interested in actually
    is what's beneath the surface there,
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    the mycelium,
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    which are these root hair-like structures
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    that are really the main part
    of the mushroom.
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    Well, it turns out you can take those --
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    there's a micrograph I did --
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    and you can put them in a mold
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    and give them a little food --
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    and it doesn't take much,
    you can grow these things on sawdust --
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    so this piece here was grown on sawdust,
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    and that mycelium then
    will fill that structure
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    to make something.
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    We've actually tried
    growing mycelium on Mars Simulant.
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    So no one's actually
    gone to the surface of Mars,
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    but this is a simulated surface of Mars,
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    and you can see those
    hair-like mycelia out there.
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    It's really amazing stuff.
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    How strong can you make these things?
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    Well, you know, I could give you
    numbers and tests and so on,
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    but I think that's probably
    the best way to describe it.
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    There's one of my students
    proving that you can do this.
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    To do this, then, you've got to figure out
    how to put it in context.
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    How's this actually going to happen?
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    I mean, this is a great idea, Lynn,
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    but how are you going to get
    from here to there?
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    So what we're saying is you grow up
    the mycelium in the lab, for example
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    and then you fill up a little structure,
    maybe a house-like structure that's tiny,
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    that is maybe a double-bagged sort of
    plastic thing, like an inflatable --
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    I sort of think L.L.Bean when I see this.
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    And then you put it in a rocket ship
    and you send it off to Mars.
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    Rocket lands,
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    you release the bag
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    and you add a little water,
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    and voila, you've got your habitat.
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    You know, how cool would that be?
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    And the beauty of that is you don't
    have to take something prebuilt.
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    And so our estimates are that we could
    save 90 percent of the mass
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    that NASA is currently proposing
    by taking up a big steel structure
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    if we actually grow it on site.
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    So let me give you another big idea.
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    What about digital information?
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    What's really interesting is
    you have a physical link to your parents
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    and they have a physical link
    to their parents, and so on,
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    all the way back to the origin of life.
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    You have never broken that continuum.
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    But the fact is that we can do that today.
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    So we have students
    every day in our labs --
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    students in Boston even do this --
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    that make up DNA sequences
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    and they hit the "send" button
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    and they send them
    to their local DNA synthesis company.
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    Now once you break that physical link
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    where you're sending it across town,
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    it doesn't matter if you're sending it
    across the Charles River
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    or if you're sending
    that information to Mars.
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    You've broken that physical link.
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    So then, once you're on Mars,
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    or across the river or wherever,
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    you can take that digital information,
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    synthesize the physical DNA,
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    put it maybe in another organism
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    and voila, you've got
    new capabilities there.
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    So again, you've broken
    that physical link. That's huge.
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    What about chemistry?
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    Biology does chemistry for us on Earth,
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    and again has for literally
    thousands of years.
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    I bet virtually everyone in this room
    has eaten something today
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    that has been made
    by biology doing chemistry.
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    Let me give you a big hint there.
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    What about another idea?
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    What about using DNA itself
    to make a wire?
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    Because again, we're trying
    to miniaturize everything.
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    DNA is really cheap.
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    Strawberries have
    a gazillion amount of DNA.
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    You know, you could take
    a strawberry with you, isolate the DNA,
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    and one of my students
    has figured out a way
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    to take DNA and tweak it a little bit
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    so that you can incorporate
    silver atoms in very specific places,
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    thus making an electrical wire.
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    How cool is that?
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    So while we're on the subject of metals,
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    we're going to need to use metals
    for things like integrated circuits.
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    Probably we're going to want it
    for some structures, and so on.
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    And things like integrated circuits
    ultimately go bad.
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    We could talk a lot about that,
    but I'm going to leave it at that,
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    that they do go bad,
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    and so where are you going
    to get those metals?
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    Yeah, you could try to mine them
    with heavy equipment,
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    but you get that upmass problem.
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    And I always tell people, the best way
    to find the metals for a new cell phone
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    is in a dead cell phone.
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    So what if you take biology
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    as the technology to get these metals out?
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    And how do you do this?
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    Well, take a look
    at the back of a vitamin bottle
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    and you'll get an idea
    of all the sorts of metals
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    that we actually use in our bodies.
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    So we have a lot of proteins
    as well as other organisms
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    that can actually
    specifically bind metals.
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    So what if we now take those proteins
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    and maybe attach them
    to this fungal mycelium
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    and make a filter so we can start
    to pull those metals out
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    in a very specific way
    without big mining equipment,
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    and, even better, we've actually
    got a proof of concept
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    where we've then taken those metals
    that we pulled out with proteins
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    and reprinted an integrated circuit
    using a plasma printer.
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    Again, how cool?
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    Electricity: I was asked
    by a head of one of the NASA centers
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    if you could ever take chemical energy
    and turn that into electrical energy.
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    Well, the great news is it's not
    just the electric eel that does it.
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    Everybody in this room
    who is still alive and functioning
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    is doing that.
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    Part of the food that you've eaten today
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    has gone to operate
    the nerve cells in your body.
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    But even other organisms,
    nonsentient ones,
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    are creating electric energy,
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    even bacteria.
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    Some bacteria are very good
    at making little wires.
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    So if we can harvest that ability
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    of turning chemical energy
    into electrical energy,
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    again, how cool would that be?
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    So here are some
    of the big ideas we talked about.
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    Let me try one more: life 2.0.
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    So for example, all of the sugars
    in our body are right-handed.
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    Why shouldn't we make an organism
    with left-handed sugars?
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    Why not make an organism that can do
    things that no organism can do today?
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    So organisms normally have evolved
    to live in very specific environments.
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    So here's this lion cub
    literally up a tree,
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    and I took a picture of him a bit later,
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    and he was a lot happier
    when he was down on the ground.
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    So organisms are designed
    for specific environments.
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    But what if you can go back
    to that idea of synthetic biology
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    and tweak 'em around?
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    So here is one of our favorite places
    in Yellowstone National Park.
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    This is Octopus Springs.
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    If you tilt your head a little bit,
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    it sort of looks like a body
    and tentacles coming out.
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    It's above the boiling
    temperature of water.
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    Those organisms that you see
    on the edge and the colors
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    actually match the temperatures
    that are there,
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    very, very high-temperature thermophiles.
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    So why not take organisms
    that can live at extremes,
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    whether it's high temperature
    or low temperature
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    or low pH or high pH
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    or high salt or high levels of radiation,
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    and take some of those capabilities
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    and put it into other organisms.
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    And this is a project
    that my students have called,
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    and I love this, the "hell cell."
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    And so we've done that.
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    We've taken organisms and sort of
    tweaked them and pushed them to the edges.
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    And this is important
    for getting us off planet
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    and also for understanding
    what life is like in the universe.
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    So let me give you
    just a couple of final thoughts.
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    First is this whole idea
    that we have all these needs
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    for human settlement off planet
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    that are in some ways
    exactly like we have on the Earth,
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    that we need the food
    and we need the shelter and so on,
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    but we have very, very
    different constraints
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    of this upmass problem and the reliability
    and the flexibility and so on.
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    But because we have these constraints
    that you don't have here,
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    where you might have to think about
    the indigenous petrochemical industry,
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    or whatever,
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    you now have constraints
    that have to unleash creativity.
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    And once you unleash this creativity
    because you have the new constraints,
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    you're forcing game-changing
    technological advances
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    that you wouldn't have gotten
    any other way.
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    Finally, we have to think a little bit,
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    is it a good idea
    to tinker around with life?
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    Well, the sort of easy answer to that is
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    that probably no one in the room
    keeps a wolf cub at home,
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    but you might have a puppy or a dog;
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    you probably didn't eat teosinte
    this summer, but you ate corn.
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    We have been doing
    genetic modification with organisms
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    for literally 10,000 or more years.
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    This is a different approach,
    but to say all of a sudden
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    humans should never touch an organism
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    is kinda silly
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    because we have that capability now
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    to do things that are far more
    beneficial for the planet Earth
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    and for life beyond that.
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    And so then the question is, should we?
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    And of course I feel
    that not only should we,
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    at least for getting off Earth,
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    but actually if we don't
    use synthetic biology,
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    we will never solve this upmass problem.
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    So once you think of life as a technology,
    you've got the solution.
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    And so, with that, I'd like to finish
    the way I always finish,
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    and say "ad astra,"
    which means, "to the stars."
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    Thank you very much, Boston.
  • 16:05 - 16:07
    (Applause)
Title:
The living tech we need to support human life on other planets
Speaker:
Lynn Rothschild
Description:

What would it take to settle Mars? In a talk about the future of space exploration, Lynn Rothschild reviews the immense challenges to living elsewhere in the universe and proposes some bold, creative solutions to making a home off planet Earth -- like "growing" houses out of fungi or using bacteria to help generate electricity.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDxTalks
Duration:
16:20

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