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Bill Nye Debates Ken Ham - HD

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    Oh, hi kids! I have an incredible message for you.
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    As you can see, it's a very exciting place.
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    Now tell your parents!
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    Kids 12 and under free in 2014 when accompanied by a paying adult.
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    We hope to see you soon!
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    Good evening. I'm pleased to welcome you to Legacy Hall
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    of the Creation Museum in Northern Kentucky
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    in the metropolitan area of Cincinnati.
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    I'm Tom Foreman from CNN and I'm pleased to be tonight's
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    moderator for this Evolution versus Creation debate.
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    This is a very old question! Where did we come from?
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    My answer is from Washington this morning by airplane.
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    (laughter from audience)
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    But there is a much more profound, longer answer
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    that people have sought after for a long time.
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    So tonight's question to be debated is the following:
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    Is Creation a viable model of origins in today's modern, scientific era?
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    Our welcome extends to hundreds of thousands of people
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    who are watching on the internet at debatelive.org.
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    We're glad you have joined us.
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    Of course, you are auditory and here,
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    all the folks who've joined us as well.
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    We're joined by 70 media representatives from many
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    of the world's great news organizations.
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    We're glad to have them here as well.
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    And now let's welcome our debaters: Mr. Bill Nye and Mr. Ken Ham.
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    (audience applauds)
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    We had a coin toss earlier to determine
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    who would go first of these two men.
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    The only thing missing was Joe Namath in a fur coat.
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    But it went very well. Mr. Ham won the coin toss
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    and he opted to speak first. But first, let me tell you
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    a little bit about both of these gentlemen.
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    Mr. Nye's website describes him as a scientist,
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    engineer, comedian, author, and inventor.
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    Mr Nye, as you may know, produced a number of award-winning TV shows,
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    including a program he became so well-known for:
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    Bill Nye the Science Guy.
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    While working on the Science Guy show, Mr. Nye won
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    seven national Emmy awards for writing, performing,
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    and producing the show. Won 18 Emmys in five years!
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    In between creating the shows, he wrote five kids books about science,
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    including his latest title, Bill Nye's Great Big Book of Tiny Germs.
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    Billy Nye is the host of three television series:
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    his program, "The 100 Greatest Discoveries"--
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    it airs on the Science Channel. "The Eyes of Nye"--
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    airs on PBS stations across the country. He frequenly appears
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    on interview programs to discuss a variety of science topics.
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    Mr. Nye serves as Executive Director of the Planetary Society,
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    the world's largest space interest group.
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    He is a graduate of Cornell, with a Bachelors
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    of Science degree in Mechanical Engineering.
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    Mr. Ken Ham is the president and co-founder of Answers of Genesis,
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    a bible-defending organization that upholds the authority
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    of the scriptures from the very first verse.
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    Mr. Ham is the man behind the popular, high-tech
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    Creation Museum, where we're holding this debate.
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    The museum has had 2 million visitors in six years
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    and has attracted much of the world's media.
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    The Answers in Genesis website, as well, trafficked
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    with 2 million visitors alone last month. Mr. Ham is also
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    a best-selling author, a much in-demand speaker,
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    and the host of a daily radio feature carried on 700 plus stations.
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    This is his second public debate on Evolution and Creation.
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    The first was at Harvard, in the 1990s.
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    Mr. Ham is a native of Australia. He earned
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    a Bachelors degree in Applied Science, with an emphasis in
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    Environmental Biology, from the Queensland's Institute of Technology,
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    as well as a Diploma of Education at the University
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    of Queensland in Brisbon, Australia.
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    And now...Mr. Ham, you opted to go first, so you will
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    be first with your five minute opening statement.
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    Well, good evening. I know that not everyone watching
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    this debate will necessarily agree with what I have to say,
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    but I'm an Aussie and live over here in America
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    and they tell me I have an accent and so it doesn't matter
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    what I say, some people tell me. We just like to hear you saying it.
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    So...um...I hope you enjoy me saying it anyway.
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    Well, the debate topic is this: Is Creation
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    a viable model of origins in today's modern scientific era?
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    You know, when this was first announced on the internet,
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    there were lots of statements-- like this one
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    from the Richard Dawkins Foundation.
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    "Scientists should not debate Creationists. Period."
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    And this one from one of the Discovery.com websites.
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    "Should Scientists Debate Creationists?"
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    You know, right here I believe there's a gross misrepresentation
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    in our culture. We're seeing people being indoctrinated
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    to believe that Creationists can't be Scientists.
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    I believe it's all a part of secularists hi-jacking the word "Science".
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    I want you to meet a modern-day scientist who's a Biblical Creationist.
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    My name is Stuart Burgess.
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    I'm a professor of Engineering Design at Bristol University in the U.K.
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    I have published over a 130 scientific papers on
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    the scientific design in Engineering and Biological systems.
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    From my research work, I find that the scientific evidence
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    fully supports Creationism as the best explanation to origins.
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    I've also designed major parts of space crafts,
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    launched by ESA and NASA.
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    So here's a biblical Creationist,
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    who's a scientist, who's also an inventor.
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    And I want young people to understand that.
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    You know, the problem, I believe, is this: we need to define terms correctly.
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    We need to define Creation/Evolution in regard to origins
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    and we need to define science. And in this opening statement,
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    I want to concentrate on dealing with the word "science".
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    I believe the word "science" has been hijacked by secularists.
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    Now, what is science?
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    Well, the origin of the word comes from the Classical Latin "scientia",
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    which means "to know". And if you look up a dictionary,
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    it'll say science means "the state of knowing, knowledge".
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    But there's different types of knowledge and I believe
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    this is where the confusion lies.
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    There's experimental or observational sciences, as we call it.
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    That's using the scientific method, observation,
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    measurement, experiment, testing. That's what produces
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    our technology, computers, space craft, jet planes,
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    smoke detectors, looking at DNA, antibiotics, medicines and vaccines.
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    You see, all scientists, whether Creationists or Evolutionists,
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    actually have the same observational or experimental science.
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    And it doesn't matter whether you're a Creationist or an Evolutionist,
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    you can be a great scientist.
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    For instance, he's an atheist, who is a great scientist--
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    Craig Venter, one of the first researchers to sequence the human genome.
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    Or Dr. Raymond Damadian. He is a man who invented
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    the MRI scan and revolutionized medicine. He's a biblical Creationist.
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    But I want us to also understand molecules-to-man
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    evolution belief has nothing to do with developing technology.
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    You see, when we're talking about origins, we're talking about the past.
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    We're talking about our origins. We weren't there.
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    We can't observe that, whether it's molecules-to-man evolution,
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    or whether it's a creation account.
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    I mean, you're talking about the past.
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    We'd like to call that Origins or Historical Science,
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    knowledge concerning the past. Here at the Creation Museum,
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    we make no apology about the fact that our Origins or Historical science
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    actually is based upon the biblical account of origins.
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    Now, when you research science textbooks being used
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    in public schools, what we found is this:
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    by and large, they are Origins or Historical Science
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    based upon man's ideas about the past--for instance, the ideas of Darwin.
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    And our research has found that public school textbooks
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    are using the same word "science" for Observational Science
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    and Historical Science. They arbitrarily define science
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    as naturalism and outlaw the supernatural.
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    They present molecules-to-man evolution as fact.
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    They are imposing, I believe, the religion
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    of naturalism or atheism on generations of students.
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    You see, I assert that the word "science" has been hijacked
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    by secularists in teaching evolution to force the religion
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    of naturalism on generations of kids.
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    Secular evolutionists teach that all life developed
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    by natural processes from some primordial form.
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    That man is just an evolved animal, which has great bearing
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    on how we view life and death.
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    For instance, as Bill states, "It's very hard to accept,
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    for many of us, that when you die, it's over."
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    But, you see, the Bible gives us a totally different account of origins,
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    of who we are, where we came from, the meaning of life, and our future.
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    That through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin.
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    But that God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son.
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    Whoever believes in Him should not perish and have everlasting life.
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    So is creation a viable model of origins in today's modern scientific era?
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    I say the creation/evolution debate is a conflict
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    between two philosophical worldviews based on two different accounts
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    of origins or science beliefs and creation
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    is the only viable model of historical science confirmed
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    by observational science in today's modern scientific era.
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    And that is time. I had the unenviable job of being the time-keeper here.
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    So I'm like the referee of football they don't like,
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    but I will periodically, if either one of our debaters
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    runs over on anything, I will stop them in the name of keeping it fair for all.
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    Mr. Ham, thank you for your comments. Now it's Mr. Nye's
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    turn for a five minute opening statement. Mr. Nye.
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    Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here.
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    I very much appreciate you including me in your facility here.
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    Now, looking around the room I think I see just one bow tie.
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    Is that right? Just one. I'm telling you, once you try it--
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    oh, there's two! That's great. I started wearing bow ties
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    when I was young, in high school.
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    My father showed me how. His father showed him.
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    And there's a story associated with this, which I find remarkable.
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    My grandfather was in the rotary, and he attended
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    a convention in Philadelphia, and even in those days,
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    at the turn of the last century, people rented tuxedos.
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    And the tuxedo came with a bow tie--untied bow tie.
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    So he didn't know how to tie it.
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    So...wasn't sure what to do, but he just took a chance.
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    He went to the hotel room next door, knocked on the door,
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    "Excuse me? Can you help me tie my tie?"
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    And the guy said, "Sure. Lie down on the bed."
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    So...my grandfather wanted to have the tie on,
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    wasn't sure what he was getting into, so he's said
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    to have lain on the bed and the guy tied a perfect bow tie knot and,
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    quite reasonably, my grandfather said,
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    "Thank you. Why'd I have to lie down on the bed?"
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    The guy said, "I'm an undertaker."
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    (audience laughs)
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    It's the only way I know how to do it.
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    Now that story was presented to me as a true story.
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    It may or may not be. But it gives you something to think about.
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    And it's certainly something to remember.
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    So, here tonight, we're gonna have two stories
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    and we can compare Mr. Ham's story to the story
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    from what I will call the outside, from mainstream science.
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    The question tonight is: Does Ken Ham's Creation Model hold up?
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    Is it "viable"?
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    So let me ask you: what would you be doing if you weren't here tonight?
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    That's right, you'd be home watching CSI.
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    CSI Petersburg. Is that coming--I think it's coming.
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    And on CSI, there is no distinction made between
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    historical science and observational science.
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    These are construct unique to Mr. Ham.
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    We don't normally have these anywhere in the world except here.
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    Natural laws that applied in the past apply now.
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    That's why they're natural laws. That's why we embrace them.
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    That's how we made all these discoveries
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    that enabled all this remarkable technology.
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    So CSI is a fictional show, but it's based absolutely
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    on real people doing real work.
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    When you go to a crime scene and find evidence,
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    you have clues about the past. And you trust those clues
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    and you embrace them and you move forward to convict somebody.
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    Mr. Ham and his followers have this remarkable view
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    of a worldwide flood that somehow influenced everything that we observe in nature.
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    A 500 foot wooden boat, eight zookeepers for 14,000 individual animals,
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    every land, plant in the world under water for a full year?
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    I ask us all: is that really reasonable?
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    You'll hear a lot about the Grand Canyon, I imagine, also,
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    which is a remarkable place and it has fossils.
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    And the fossils in the Grand Canyon are found in layers.
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    There's not a single place in the Grand Canyon
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    where the fossils of one type of animal cross over
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    into the fossils of another. In other words,
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    when there was a big flood on the earth, you would expect
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    drowning animals to swim up to a higher level.
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    Not any one of them did. Not a single one.
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    If you could find evidence of that, my friends, you could change the world.
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    Now, I just wanna remind us all:
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    there are billions of people in the world who are deeply religious,
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    who get enriched, who have a wonderful sense of community from their religion.
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    They worship together, they eat together, they live
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    in their communities and enjoy each others company. Billions of people.
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    But these same people do not embrace the extraordinary view
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    that the earth is somehow only 6,000 years old. That is unique.
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    And here's my concern: what keeps the United States ahead,
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    what makes the United States a world leader, is our technology,
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    our new ideas, our innovations. If we continue to eschew science,
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    eschew the process and try to divide science
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    into observational science and historic science,
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    we are not gonna move forward. We will not embrace natural laws.
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    We will not make discoveries. We will not invent and innovate and stay ahead.
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    So if you ask me if Ken Ham's Creation model is viable, I say no.
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    It is absolutely not viable. So stay with us over the next period
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    and you can compare my evidence to his. Thank you all very much.
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    (audience applauds)
Title:
Bill Nye Debates Ken Ham - HD
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Is creation a viable model of origins in today's modern, scientific era? Leading creation apologist and bestselling Christian author Ken Ham is joined at the Creation Museum by Emmy Award-winning science educator and CEO of the Planetary Society Bill Nye.

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  • Holy cow, great work, Sara and Cathy! It's fantastic that of you both took the time to tackle this right away. I'm not able to help for a few more hours, but I plan to check back later to see how things are going and try to chip in.

    I'm not a moderator or related to the Captions Requested team in any capacity other than plain old contributor, in case it sounds otherwise up top. I'm just a teammate and subtitler* who knows that doing this takes time, and for you guys to get so much done so quickly is pretty awesome.

    Cheers,
    Camille

    *doesn't appear to 'officially' be a word at present, but, like, why?

  • Hey, Camille! Thanks so much! And many thanks to Cathy for adding more dialogue. It was great to wake up to. I hope we'll be able to get this done soon!

  • thank you very much , with out your work i wont be able to translate it into other language
    thanx , thanx
    waiting to finish it

  • I'm enjoying the work, and I want to make sure the debate can be heard. It was really interesting to hear in its entirety. :-)

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