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Carmen: Hi. We're Mediengruppe Bitnik,
this is Doma, my name is Carmen. We're
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really happy to be here; thanks for having
us. And we'd like to show you a series of
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works. We don't quite know how many; we've
been kind of changing the slides, so we'll
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have to see what fits. I think... just 2
words about Mediengruppe Bitnik: We're
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from Zurich originally. We're based in
Berlin now... have been based for 1 and a
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half years and we work on the digital, but
usually our works also affect physical
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spaces, as you'll see in a minute. And
we'd like to talk about recent works
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around bots remote code glitch. So, the
first work is called "random darknet
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shopper". We produced this work in 2014
together with Kunst Halle Sankt Gallen.
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This was after the Snowden revelations in
2013, where we kind of felt that, as
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artists, we needed to re-assess our
cultural "heimat", the internet. As a kind
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of it was this mass surveillance thing and
we kind of felt we couldn't work there
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anymore or that many of our works were too
naive and so together with Kunst Halle
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Sankt Gallen, which is an art space in
Switzerland, we put together a show around
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darknet, because we felt that by looking
at internet subculture, we could kind of
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question ideas around anonymity, intimacy,
identity, trust... And in this show we had
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12 works by various artists around these
topics and our work was "random darknet
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shopper".
Doma: So, basically the random darknet
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shopper is a piece of software... is a
small bot, which we started in autumn
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2014. We started with the interest in the
question of trust: "How do you gain trust
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in encrypted networks, where you don't
know to whom you're speaking to?", "How
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does those trust mechanism work when
everything is kind of obfuscated and
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encrypted?" And we wanted to challenge
this question, basically, on the darknet
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markets, which were kind of a big topic, a
controversial topic, after the Silk Road
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raid. And we thought that it might be good
to evaluate these questions with a bot,
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questioning also "How does trust-building
work when you have goods, which are
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shipped from all over the world to the
buyers?" and so we wrote this part which
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was called the "random darknet shopper",
which had $100 weekly budget, based in
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bitcoins, and the idea was that the bot
would log in to the deep webs and go to
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the biggest dark net market at that time,
it was called agora I think, and randomly
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select an item and then buy it and
directly send it to the exhibition space,
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without our interference. So the idea was
that in the exhibition, we had 12 of those
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vitrines -- they were empty -- basically
waited to be filled over 12 weeks of the
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duration of the exhibition.
Carmen: So we basically connected the very
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dark markets of the darknet with the very
visible space of the art gallery.
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Doma: Technically it was pretty simple: It
was basically a small python script which
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remote-controlled a Firefox and basically
logged in to the darknet markets through
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Tor and then just clicked around to choose
a random category, get all the items below
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$100, randomly choose one, hit the buy
button, send an encrypted message to the
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seller to send it directly to the
exhibition space, and pay the fee or the
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things in bitcoins.
Carmen: So, over time we wanted to have a
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whole landscape of goods from the
darknets. There was also a lot of talk in
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the media at the time -- well, there still
is -- about the darknets and what you can
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buy there and we didn't believe what they
were telling us; we really wanted to see
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what we would randomly get from the
darknet. And the first item was called
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"fire brigade masterkey set", which the
seller said was a set of keys usually
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owned by the fire brigade in the UK to
open storage...
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Doma: ...public gates in public spaces,
stuff they need access to, so...
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Carmen: We have no idea whether it's true
or not.
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Doma: But we still really like that
object, because it has that potential of
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opening doors in the UK.
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Carmen: The second item was cigarettes
from the Ukraine. So basically, in very
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good darknet fashion, circumventing the
taxation on tobacco in the European Union.
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Doma:I think, it was about $35 at that
time.
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Carmen: Yeah.
Doma: Third week, we had this Louis
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Vuitton Trevi handbag for $95. And
actually, if we speak about trust, this
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was the only item which wasn't delivered,
but the seller was kind enough to send the
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bitcoins back, because he knew he couldn't
deliver. So, also here, it kind of worked.
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Carmen: Then, we received the Lord of the
Rings collection by JRR Tolkien in PDF
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format, which, for $1, which we printed .
Doma: It's several thousand pages. Then,
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the first or ... second super-digital
item: It was called Visa.
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Carmen: Visa Platinum top card, sent from
Torland for $35. Apparently this was a
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Visa prepaid. We received a visa, so the
visa number, the expiry date, the name and
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the little number you have on the back.
Doma: And we didn't dare to use it.
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Carmen: Then, sixth week the random
darknet shopper selected 10 yellow ecstasy
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pills with a Twitter logo on them...
giggling in the audience
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Carmen: ... sent from Germany for $48 to
Switzerland; they actually arrived. We
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took them as a title for the talk also,
because we really liked the description.
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We displayed them like the rest.
Doma: They came in this stealth packaging,
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pretending to be a DVD in this alufoil and
then vacuumed again.
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Carmen: Yes and around about this time,
also the press started picking up on the
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work, because they kind of felt that this
random darknet shopper was questioning or
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posing questions around who's responsible
if a bot commits something illegal. So,
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"What happens when a software box goes on
the darknet shopping spree?", the Guardian
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asked. Who is responsible when a bot
randomly shops for ecstasy in the darknet?
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Is it the person who programmed it, is it
the person who executes it, can a robot or
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a piece of software be jailed if it
commits a crime?
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giggling in the audience
Doma: And also what happens if the code is
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open source and written by many people,
like if you have an algorithm which goes
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wild?
Carmen: But the random darknet shopper
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just continued shopping and it bought some
Nike Air Yeezy 2 limited edition trainers
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for $75.
Doma: If you convert the bitcoins into
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nowadays' value, it would be around $3000.
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Doma: It costed $75 at the time.
Carmen: Then, we received a cap with a
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built-in camera that little... that's
where the camera is, from the US for $99.
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Doma: Then a thing I really liked, it's
called the decoy first class letter. So,
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it's basically a plain letter you receive,
like a service and it came from Australia,
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addressed to our exhibition space in
Switzerland. It's basically an empty
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letter, just to basically traceroute your
postal system, to check if the system is
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ok, if you can receive mails...
giggling in the audience
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Doma: ...if it's... maybe somebody opens
it. So, the idea by buying stuff in the
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deep webs is basically also to anonymize
somehow your postal box and to test that
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you can basically send yourself a letter
and see if something happens. It's also
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good tactics, basically, if you want to
introduce a new address somewhere, start
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sending letters there and the post office,
the post person, the delivery person, will
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get used to it and basically...
Carmen: Yeah. The next item was a Sprite
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stash can. You probably know this, this is
an empty soda can, constructed to weigh
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the same as a full one and you can screw
the top on, so you can place whatever you
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want inside and it's hidden away
Doma: Then, the next one: These Diesel man
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jeans replica from Hong Kong for $79.
Carmen: And the last item we received was
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a high quality scan of a Hungarian
passport for online verification. So, here
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you see, this is basically how we
displayed the items and this all went
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really well, until we took down the
exhibition in January 2015 and the day
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after the exhibition closed, the public
prosecutor of St. Gallen in Switzerland
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basically seized the whole work and we
were a bit confused.
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Carmen: So, we were a bit confused in the
first moment, because of the timing. So,
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after the exhibition closed, they seized
the whole work, but it turned out, that
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for them it was mostly about the drugs the
random darknet shopper had bought. We were
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kind of worried about the passport and the
visa card as well, which they felt was
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totally okay.
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Doma: And in the first moment, the
question also by the public prosecutor was
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raised, it was about responsibility: Who
is responsible in this specific moment? Is
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it the artists who wrote the code? Is it
the museum who basically hosts the show?
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Is it the curator? Is it the people who
work there? Because me and Carmen, we have
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never touched those drugs; we have not,
basically... it was all done somehow
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automatically. Or is it the bot himself
who is somehow its own legal entity and
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could be punished? So, in order to somehow
also protect the staff of the museum and
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to also to get our items back, we thought
"The stuff is ours; we want the things
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back.", we raised our hands and said "No;
I think, if you want to charge somebody,
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you should charge us."
Carmen: And we were summoned for an
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interrogation, which was really
interesting. There we learned that the
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drugs actually contained MDMA, so the
police had tested them and confirmed that
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they did.
Doma: I mean, we knew through the ratings
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on the drugs on the darknet markets, that
this stuff was good.
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laughter
Carmen: But then we kind of had to
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discuss. We tried to explain what we
were... that we were trying to raise these
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questions in public through publicly
accessible art piece, because we felt it
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very important that we talk about these
things. Nevertheless, the public
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prosecutor decided to destroy the drugs,
which was very unfortunate. We, of cause,
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claimed they were an art piece.
Doma: So, you're destroying an art piece
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here and our lawyer was also referencing
all other artworks which involved drug
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from the whole history.
Carmen: Yeah, but we did receive the whole
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work back in the end, except for the
drugs, and all charges were dropped
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against us and the public prosecutor wrote
a very nice letter, saying that we
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actually were allowed to break certain
laws to raise certain questions within
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society. Without specifically naming
freedom of art.
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Doma: So, our understanding of why they
seized the whole thing, is that they were
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afraid what the next artist would do. So,
the first one buys it, the second one
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takes it as a performative act and the
third one gives it to the audience and
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it's kind of clear that they need to draw
a line. So, the question about
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responsibility was not solved.
Carmen: No, we still have it. We then
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continued with this question of bots and
the mechanical gaze... Oh, okay. You're
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jumping, sorry, wrong introduction... The
same year, we were asked to do a public
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art piece, which is always the case in
Switzerland when public buildings are
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built, part of the money has to go into an
art piece and usually that art piece is
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sculptural: It can be a sculpture in the
lobby o...
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Doma: ... a sculpture in public space. It
should... there're different kind of
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things you need to address; the public art
piece should work for 30 years, should be
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sustainable, so it's mostly made out of
stone.
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Carmen: So, for us as digital artists,
this was a very interesting question, also
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because the building is the house for
Electronic Arts in Basel, also
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Switzerland. So, for us the question was
"How can we talk about digital topics, but
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not using digital media?"
Doma: And we asked ourself "Is there a way
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of... I mean we thought a lot about
architecture and software and how
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basically the software you use is also
infecting the architecture which is built
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and since this is all software, what we
have never seen is a software error. So,
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we ask ourself "Is it possible to build or
is it funny to build a software error into
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stone?" and...
Carmen: We kind of had to try that.
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Doma: We had to try that, so we took a
picture of the place, of this house, and
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basically glitched it through a small
script and told them to rebuild it and
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this is how it looks now.
Carmen: This is what the building looks
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like today. So, they... You can see it.
They...
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Carmen: And when you stand there it kind
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of gives you a surreal feeling: There's a
square in front of this facade and you
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you're not sure, whether your eyes are
wrong or the building is wrong, and then,
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when you come closer, you then, of course,
see.
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Doma: And also here, the glitch reveals
stuff, like... People came to us and asked
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"How does the piping system work?"
giggling
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Doma: "Is it still here?" And this is
something which we like about software
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glitches. That you sometimes you get an
understanding how a system works only of
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breaking it or by forcing it to throw
errors.
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Carmen: Then we...
*the 2 lecturers discuss something,
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whispering*
Carmen: Sorry.
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Doma: We need to discuss what we are
speaking about.
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laughter
Doma Okay, so we'll skip another project,
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because we are running out of the time.
Carmen: I think the last piece we'd like
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to just quickly show you is very recent.
We're still kind of amazed at this. So,
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this year, we were asked to do a book on
our work and we felt... This was really
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difficult for us, because usually we do
websites and you can change websites and
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then you do a book and you kind of... it's
printed and then it's there and that
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really... it was very hard for us, but
once we decided to do this, we kept
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thinking about "How can we break this very
static print format of the book?" and
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together with the 2 designers of the book,
Konrad Renner (???) and Christoph Knurz
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(???), we thought about... we said "Well,
the title should be code, because maybe
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through the title, you could inject code
into various websites, because books,
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they're online, you can buy them online.
And we decided to go
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for as its title.
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Dona: JavaScript, which normally, like
YAML, you can't write JavaScript into a
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commentary field on Facebook, because
these things is parsed out and so the
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browser does not execute that code, so
they check it, but we thought "Maybe if
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it's so deep in the databases, like the
ISBN databases, the national
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bibliographies and whatever, it might pop
up somewhere."
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Carmen:And the book came out in September
and then in October we realized that on
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Walther Kรถnig, which is a big art
bookseller with a big online website, it
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worked, so when you search for
"!Mediangruppe Bitnik" on the website...
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Hope this works... And you go to the
catalog...
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Doma: So, this one this one is pretty
okay. I mean, normally if you... on other
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website it breaks the "buy" button, which
is not in our interest, but...
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laughter
Doma: So, you can still buy it on
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Buchhandlung Walther Kรถnig. Just click
"okay" and then it's okay. So, here's just
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a small collection of 10, 12, which are
popping up. It's like... everyday we get
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more. And we can show you a small video of
2, 3 pieces.
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Carmen: Don't know what we're going to see
now. I think eBay.
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Doma: I don't know.
Carmen: Okay. This is eBay.
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Doma: So, ebay.co.uk.
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Doma: BAM! And this only worked on or...
they already fixed it, so somebody made a
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bug report. I like this one.
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Doma: So, thank you!
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Carmen: Thanks.
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herald speaks, but it is unintelligible
due to technical problems
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Herald: We have 5 minutes for a very short
Q&A if there are already people lying out
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(???). Please, number 2.
M2: Very cool talk, thanks. I'm from
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Switzerland, so I wonder, you were lucky
that you got dropped off the charges. How
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much would it got for the charges if you
would not drop them? Do you know?
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Doma: I don't you know. I mean, it was
basically or here it was about drug
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possession and 10 ecstasy pills and we
were totally okay to take this fine. We
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don't know it, but it was kind of...
Carmen: It would have been fine, because
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in Switzerland, according to our lawyer,
it would have been for personal use. I
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mean, this is not the amount you carry
around, apparently, if you're selling, so
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we would have gotten away with a fine.
M2: So and I... Thanks very much that you
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said that actually writing the code and
then the program buys it makes you
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actually responsible, right? So, would
you... At the end you said, it was your...
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"I would take the charge", because you
were writing the code...
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Carmen: Yes, the problem was that usually,
at least in Swiss law, possession of drugs
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needs to mean that the drugs were either
found on your person or in a space that
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can be... that definitely belongs to you.
And the problem was that it was clear from
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the process that we hadn't touched the
drugs and we didn't want somebody else to
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get fined for drug possession ; that would
have made no sense. We wanted to also
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publicly discuss this... having to step up
and say "No, it was us."
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M2: Thanks.
Herald: Okay, final one.
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Microphone x: Hi. Sorry... thanks for the
talk. I have to ask: Does the plumbing
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work?
Carmen: Yeah. It works, because... so the
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pillars were... I'll try to explain
briefly. So, architecturally this building
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was a storage for dry goods and the
pillars used to support the building, but
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when they turned it into a museum, they
actually filled the space between the
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pillars with insulation, so the pillars
were gone. And then the architects didn't
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like it. They thought, the pillars should
be there, because the building didn't look
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good, so they actually put fake pillars
onto the facade again and so we could just
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take the empty pillars and cut them up and
put the plumbing inside. So, now the
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visible plumbing is fake, but the real
plumbing is inside the pillars; that's how
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it works.
applause
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Herald: Amazing work. One final, big round
of applause for Mediengruppe Bitnik and
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thanks for being here!
Carmen: Thank you; thanks.
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Doma: Thank you.
applause
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