(h) TROM - 2.21 Family and Love
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0:02 - 0:07Here's an idea that is regarded as a
normal one among human beings. -
0:09 - 0:12The family represents a horde,
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0:12 - 0:16the gathering of some animals
after a genetic sequence. -
0:16 - 0:21For most animal groups this is the
result of struggling for survival -
0:21 - 0:23or the animal need for mating.
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0:23 - 0:27For humans those reasons
are long past -
0:27 - 0:30and the family is formed
by the current culture. -
0:30 - 0:36Thus, normality is found in a family
with two parents plus children, -
0:36 - 0:38many parents plus children,
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0:39 - 0:43or just the two potential
parents without children. -
0:43 - 0:46Culture has changed
the idea of family, -
0:46 - 0:49and family is just an idea.
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0:50 - 0:52In such a group;
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0:52 - 0:57parents are those who raise their
children and take part in their education. -
0:57 - 1:00Parents should have a good
understanding of psychology, -
1:00 - 1:03environmental influence
on human behaviour -
1:03 - 1:07and some general knowledge
about the importance of genes. -
1:07 - 1:08Without this knowledge,
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1:09 - 1:13education of children is risky,
random and 'personal', -
1:14 - 1:18based solely on the ideas
of some individuals. -
1:25 - 1:28For most people
the family is a goal -
1:28 - 1:33and children a fulfillment,
all rendered by culture. -
1:36 - 1:39This creates certain problems.
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1:39 - 1:42For example the
issue of children. -
1:42 - 1:44Whether you are
a parent or not, -
1:45 - 1:48you ever wonder why
you want to have a baby? -
1:48 - 1:49What's the point?
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1:50 - 1:51Because you need to?
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1:51 - 1:53Because it is gentle?
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1:53 - 1:55Because you want to
play with him? -
1:56 - 1:58For personal fulfillment?
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1:58 - 2:02Most parents relive childhood
moments through their children -
2:02 - 2:06or want children to represent the
success that they have not acquired. -
2:06 - 2:08A kind of trophy.
-
2:08 - 2:11I'm not saying it's wrong,
but you have to ask yourself, -
2:11 - 2:14why do you want
to have a baby? -
2:16 - 2:20[Jacque Fresco] - So women are given
a particular role in this culture. -
2:20 - 2:25When you give a baby dolls, or a girl,
you're already programming her. -
2:25 - 2:29When you tie a big bow in her hair,
you're programming her. -
2:29 - 2:32So women in the future will pick up
whatever the hell they want. -
2:33 - 2:36Electric trains... not
necessarily the babydolls. -
2:36 - 2:40Wiping the baby's ass is
not a real great career. -
2:40 - 2:44In other words, they're trying to get women
to believe in having children, you know? -
2:44 - 2:46Children are a pain in the ass!
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2:47 - 2:48They are not pleasant.
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2:48 - 2:50They can't say anything new.
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2:50 - 2:52They require a lot of your time.
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2:52 - 2:55You can't travel, you can't
do a lot of things... -
2:55 - 2:59So the population in the
future will be diminished. -
2:59 - 3:02Now, a lot of you believe
"Oh, I like to have my own children" -
3:03 - 3:05"I want my name going
into the future" -
3:05 - 3:06See?
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3:07 - 3:09Now, if you have a child,
say eleven years old, -
3:09 - 3:14and the hospital calls you, "We gave
you the wrong child eleven years ago." -
3:14 - 3:16You don't have to turn it in.
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3:17 - 3:20Don't you see that all children
are about the same? -
3:20 - 3:23They're all the same about
the same things. -
3:24 - 3:27My kids are the same
as any other kids, -
3:27 - 3:30they are just brought up with
a different value system. -
3:30 - 3:33No kids reflects you unless...
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3:33 - 3:38All that they inherit is the shape of the
ears, and the nose, and the head... -
3:38 - 3:41Similar, somewhat similar to you.
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3:41 - 3:43And the guys says
"That's a replica". -
3:43 - 3:47If the child misbehaves they say:
"He got that from your mother". -
3:47 - 3:53In the future, people when raise kids...
They are all the same... -
3:54 - 3:56If we try to visualize the future,
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3:56 - 3:59It is the same:
Families and all that... -
3:59 - 4:03So if I make movies about the future,
I have to use families in there. -
4:03 - 4:07There'll be no families, most
people won't own children, -
4:07 - 4:11but today, that's normal,
so you have to use that, -
4:11 - 4:13if you really want to
change people. -
4:13 - 4:16Otherwise, you'll come up and they'll say
"What the hell are you talking about?" -
4:16 - 4:18"I wouldn't wanna
live in your world!" -
4:19 - 4:22Your grandmother I told you,
if you took her to Miami Beach, -
4:22 - 4:25and she saw the girls with
their butts hanging out, -
4:25 - 4:28she'll say "They've gone too far".
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4:28 - 4:31Now, she is right where
she is coming from, -
4:31 - 4:32but not today.
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4:32 - 4:36But you got to understand your grandmother
was brought up in a different world. -
4:36 - 4:39So we teach the kids in school
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4:39 - 4:40that your parents,
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4:40 - 4:43your grandfather, were
brought up in different times -
4:43 - 4:45and their values are
different than ours. -
4:46 - 4:48Don't look them as BAD,
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4:48 - 4:51understand where they
are coming from, -
4:51 - 4:53that the Indian is not stupid,
-
4:53 - 4:56all they do in their culture
is dance around a fire -
4:58 - 5:01because that's all they know,
that's all that they've been exposed to... -
5:04 - 5:06Now comes the next problem:
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5:06 - 5:08Overcrowding due to culture.
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5:09 - 5:11It is extremely dangerous,
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5:11 - 5:14because this system is
perpetuating the idea -
5:14 - 5:17that family is the goal
of every man's life, -
5:17 - 5:20and children are part of this idea.
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5:23 - 5:27[Peter Joseph] -For example, the Catholic
church, and a lot of other religions -
5:27 - 5:30that feed off of those early
old testament ideologies, -
5:31 - 5:36they advocate this illusion that
we can just procreate constantly, -
5:36 - 5:38and everyone's going to be fine.
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5:38 - 5:41God will take care
of everyone. -
5:42 - 5:47As of right now, with
the future of energy, -
5:47 - 5:50established energy,
the future of -
5:50 - 5:53the way we are orienting ourselves
on this planet through depletion, -
5:53 - 5:55I'm not having any children.
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5:56 - 5:59While I try to be as optimistic as possible
with The Zeitgeist Movement, -
6:00 - 6:03and what we could do, which is
phenomenal, what we could do. -
6:04 - 6:06As of right now, we have
some powerful barriers. -
6:06 - 6:08I'm not having children.
Why? Why would I say that? -
6:08 - 6:12First of all,
I wouldn't feel good. -
6:12 - 6:16I would feel utterly negligent and
irresponsible at this point in time, -
6:16 - 6:19to bring in another human being.
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6:19 - 6:21Most people when they
give birth to children, it's a -
6:21 - 6:24traditionalized self-serving,
established notion where, -
6:24 - 6:26"We are going to have
kids and a family". -
6:26 - 6:28To hell with the carrying
capacity of the Earth, -
6:28 - 6:31to hell with the fact that
we might be impoverished. -
6:31 - 6:34I mean, you see this in
trailer parks all the time. -
6:34 - 6:37I used to live in a trailer park. I've seen
this countless, countless times. -
6:37 - 6:39People don't have any
relationship to anything. -
6:39 - 6:42They have no education, as far
as what makes society work, -
6:42 - 6:45as far as what the processes
are that feed them. -
6:45 - 6:47So, they continue to have kids
over and over and over again, -
6:47 - 6:50or do many, many things that have
no relationship to anything. -
6:50 - 6:52But let's focus on
the children aspect. -
6:52 - 6:54For me to bring in a child,
is for me to actually say: -
6:54 - 6:58"I believe the world will
be in good shape -
6:58 - 7:00for the duration of
my child's life." -
7:00 - 7:01And then it becomes:
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7:01 - 7:03"What if my child has
a grand child? -
7:03 - 7:06Should the world have
the integrity -
7:06 - 7:11to maintain stability
for that child as well? -
7:11 - 7:12This is the question.
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7:12 - 7:14This is what all parents out there
should be asking themselves. -
7:14 - 7:17They shouldn't be having children
for their own self-serving needs -
7:17 - 7:20so they can have "a family"
and be traditional, and -
7:20 - 7:23show up at church and
have their two kids. -
7:24 - 7:26It has to relate to something real.
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7:26 - 7:31Humanity has to start thinking about
its relationship to the Earth. -
7:31 - 7:34Until it does so, we're
fucking doomed. -
7:35 - 7:39We have created a
economic structure, -
7:39 - 7:42a religious-philosophical
structure, -
7:42 - 7:48that is absolutely de-coupled
from anything tangible and real, -
7:48 - 7:51and these ideologies
are what will destroy -
7:51 - 7:54the human species and
destroy the planet. -
7:55 - 7:59- I enjoy working there, but there're
other things I wanna do! -
7:59 - 8:01- Like what?
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8:02 - 8:04- Well...
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8:05 - 8:10Eventually, I like to get married
and have kids. -
8:15 - 8:17I said "eventually", you
don't have to panic. -
8:19 - 8:21"We have talked about
naming our kids." -
8:21 - 8:24I just thought that was
somewhere off in the future... -
8:24 - 8:29and as much I hate to admit it,
all I kept thinking was: -
8:29 - 8:34"Drew, you'll never ever sleep
with another woman again... ever!" -
8:37 - 8:40[Jacque Fresco] - Love
is a biased word. -
8:40 - 8:44You yourself, and most people
in the radio audience, -
8:45 - 8:47have done things that
they are sorry for, -
8:47 - 8:48have done things
that they thought -
8:48 - 8:50were insufficient...
All of us! -
8:51 - 8:54So, sometimes you love yourself,
sometimes you don't, -
8:54 - 8:56sometimes you hate yourself!
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8:56 - 8:59So, if you marry somebody, sometimes
you love them very much, -
8:59 - 9:01sometimes a little less,
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9:01 - 9:03sometimes you are
disappointed in them... -
9:03 - 9:08So love is not is a fixed thing,
it's a fluctuating situation. -
9:08 - 9:15If you marry a girl that has
seven qualities that you like, -
9:15 - 9:18after you're married 5 years
you meet another girl -
9:18 - 9:21that has 27 qualities
that you like. -
9:21 - 9:24You can't help, but feel
for that person. -
9:24 - 9:26[Roxanne Meadows] -In the
future, -
9:26 - 9:29you'll probably love as many
people who are lovable -
9:29 - 9:33you'll share ideas and
values with many people -
9:33 - 9:37and you probably won't have
one person as a possession. -
9:37 - 9:40Today, a lot of people who are
married, that's their possession, -
9:40 - 9:44and if anything happens to them,
if they die, it's really... -
9:44 - 9:49terrible that's the only people that they share
their life, and their values and their work with. -
9:50 - 9:51[J.Fresco] - So you see,
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9:51 - 9:56all of our values, the way we look at the
world, we've learned that at a certain time, -
9:57 - 9:59and I'm saying that in the future
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9:59 - 10:03people will be very different
than we are today. -
10:03 - 10:07People will not use the word "Love",
they'll use the word "Extensionality". -
10:08 - 10:11I associate with the person
because they enhance my life, -
10:11 - 10:15they make my life easier,
we have a lot in common, -
10:15 - 10:18we understand each other
in many different areas, -
10:18 - 10:23and as the years go by we've increased
and improved our relationship. -
10:23 - 10:25That's what love
will really become. -
10:26 - 10:30today it's just a word, like
religion, is a verbal hobby. -
10:30 - 10:37On a radio broadcast Larry King once
asked me what I thought of Christianity, -
10:37 - 10:41and I said "It's a great idea, when are
they going to put it into practice?" -
10:43 - 10:46Well, you brought up
the word "emotion". -
10:46 - 10:48That's one of the major problems.
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10:48 - 10:52Korzybski called it
"Thalamic Behavior". -
10:52 - 10:56And behavior that was rational,
he called "Cortical Behavior", -
10:56 - 10:59referring to the cortex
of the brain. -
10:59 - 11:03Now emotional behavior
really might spike you -
11:03 - 11:07to feel a certain way (good
or bad, or right or wrong), -
11:08 - 11:12but Cortical Behavior is to
point out the shortcomings -
11:12 - 11:16so that people can avoid
accidents or fire... -
11:16 - 11:20You teach them how to
handle varying situations. -
11:20 - 11:23For example, if there's an
automobile accident, -
11:23 - 11:25and the children are
trapped in the car, -
11:25 - 11:28and the gasoline is spilling over
the engine, and the mother is -
11:28 - 11:32"Oh my god! My children are trapped in the car,
they are going to burn to death!" -
11:32 - 11:34That's Thalamic Behavior.
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11:34 - 11:37If she picks up a log, or a rock
and breaks the windows -
11:37 - 11:42and pulls the children out,
that's Cortical Behavior. -
11:42 - 11:46We want to convert all
emotions into useful directions -
11:47 - 11:49as near as we are able to.
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11:49 - 11:51[R. Meadows] - I like the
example of when there's a... -
11:51 - 11:55a cliff, and a road on
the side of a cliff, -
11:55 - 11:58and the car might go over and
somebody gets in an accident -
11:58 - 12:00and the first person that comes
to them, and they're hurt, -
12:00 - 12:02and they hold their hand
and they cry with them -
12:03 - 12:04and they say "There, there".
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12:04 - 12:07And then there's a doctor
that acts upon it -
12:07 - 12:09and mends them
and fixes them. -
12:10 - 12:13But the engineer that you hear
nothing about, who comes along -
12:14 - 12:16and puts a wall at the
side of the road, -
12:16 - 12:19or tilts the road and puts the brace
so there are no accidents, -
12:19 - 12:22you don't hear anything
about those in society. -
12:22 - 12:25And those are the people that really
should be honored. -
12:26 - 12:27[P. Joseph] - I couldn't
agree more. -
12:27 - 12:29I use the example of,
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12:29 - 12:33Mother Teresa vs.
Louis Pasteur, -
12:33 - 12:35and people always have
an emotional -
12:35 - 12:39affiliation and identification with
the generosity of this person, -
12:39 - 12:43yet they don't realize that the scientists
have done more for humanity -
12:43 - 12:46than all of the philanthropists
combined. -
12:46 - 12:50[R.M.] -Right, and if you designed a
society where you don't need charity, -
12:50 - 12:54that's a higher form of
concern and compassion. -
12:54 - 12:55[P.J.] -Absolutely.
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12:55 - 13:01[J.F.] -Unfortunately, Peter, the society
does that when they work on you, -
13:01 - 13:06because each society emphasizes
certain types of emotions. -
13:06 - 13:09In motion pictures, soap
operas, we learn it. -
13:09 - 13:14We learn to be emotional,
we learn to be irrational -
13:14 - 13:17and we learn to be what
some people call stupid, -
13:17 - 13:20by associating with stupid people.
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13:20 - 13:23The more irrational people
you associate with, -
13:23 - 13:27the more difficult it is for your
behavior to become sane. -
13:28 - 13:31We resent a murderer
or a thief. -
13:32 - 13:33We resent that.
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13:33 - 13:35But we don't resent war!!
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13:36 - 13:37That's amazing!
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13:37 - 13:39If somebody kills somebody,
we get angry. -
13:40 - 13:44The abortionists, those who
are against abortion, -
13:44 - 13:48you've measured they'd be at the forefront
against war, because it kills everybody: -
13:48 - 13:51unborn children, women...
Everybody! -
13:51 - 13:54And you would imagine that they
would line up against war. -
13:54 - 13:57But, the brain is so manipulated
by the culture, -
13:57 - 14:01that they become angry at
using the wrong fork. -
14:01 - 14:05You know, if you go to dinner at a
proper place, use the wrong fork, -
14:05 - 14:08people become angry
and disappointed in you! -
14:08 - 14:12But if you're a racist, they don't,
which is amazing! -
14:12 - 14:16The Ku Klux Klan once had
three million members. -
14:16 - 14:18That just shows you
where society is. -
14:19 - 14:21We are not civilized yet.
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14:21 - 14:23We've got a long way to go.
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14:23 - 14:26We live in a very 'unsane' culture.
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14:26 - 14:29I do not believe we will make
the history books of the future... -
14:29 - 14:35Except as a pathetic development
in human evolution. -
14:43 - 14:48ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS
1.Education -
14:51 - 14:55A human being must distinguish
between imagination (marriage) -
14:55 - 15:01and reality (physical attraction, sex,
admiration for other people). -
15:01 - 15:05When you know our reality, you
will make decisions accordingly, -
15:05 - 15:10you will not unconsciously comply with
the culture in which you were born. -
15:10 - 15:15At most you will accept cultural
situations as some rituals, -
15:15 - 15:17but remain aware of reality.
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15:17 - 15:22The monetary system maintains this
culture by promoting the idea of family. -
15:23 - 15:27Even worse, they've created
big business from this: -
15:27 - 15:32Holidays, specific objects for
the family, houses and cars, -
15:32 - 15:35all these things are designed
with the family in mind, -
15:35 - 15:39they are just consumption
for the monetary system. -
15:59 - 16:03It's very strange how human beings
who comply with the culture, -
16:03 - 16:06in this case through
marriage then family, -
16:06 - 16:10miss out on millions of opportunities
to meet other people -
16:10 - 16:12because they restrict
themselves. -
16:13 - 16:16We are so many,
but we know so little.
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"Before the Big-Bang, till present, and beyond."
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