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For better health care, embrace irrationality

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    It's April of 2007,
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    and Jon Corzine,
    the Governor of New Jersey,
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    is in this horrific car accident.
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    He's in the right front
    passenger seat of this SUV
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    when it crashes on
    the Garden State Parkway.
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    He's transported
    to a New Jersey trauma center
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    with multiple broken bones
    and multiple lacerations.
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    He needs immediate surgery,
    seven units of blood,
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    a mechanical ventilator
    to help him breathe
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    and several more operations along the way.
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    It's amazing he survived.
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    But perhaps even more amazing,
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    he was not wearing a seat belt.
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    And, in fact, he never wore a seat belt,
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    and the New Jersey state troopers
    who used to drive Governor Corzine around
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    used to beg him to wear a seat belt,
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    but he didn't do it.
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    Now, before Corzine
    was Governor of New Jersey,
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    he was the US Senator from New Jersey,
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    and before that, he was
    the CEO of Goldman Sachs,
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    responsible for taking
    Goldman Sachs public,
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    making hundreds of millions of dollars.
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    Now, no matter what you think
    of Jon Corzine politically
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    or how he made his money,
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    nobody would say that he was stupid.
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    But there he was,
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    an unrestrained passenger
    in a car accident,
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    at a time when every American knows
    that seat belts save lives.
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    This single story reflects
    a fundamental weakness
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    in our approach
    to improving health behavior.
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    Nearly everything we tell doctors
    and everything we tell patients
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    is based on the idea
    that we behave rationally.
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    If you give me information, I will process
    that information in my head,
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    and my behavior will change as a result.
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    Do you think Jon Corzine didn't know
    that seat belts save lives?
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    Do you think he, like,
    just didn't get the memo?
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    (Laughter)
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    Jon Corzine did not have
    a knowledge deficit,
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    he had a behavior deficit.
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    It's not that he didn't know better.
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    He knew better.
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    It's that he didn't do better.
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    Instead, I think the mind
    is a high-resistance pathway.
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    Changing someone's mind
    with information is hard enough.
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    Changing their behavior with information
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    is harder still.
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    The only way we're going to make
    substantial improvements
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    in health and health care
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    is to make substantial improvements
    in the behavior of health and health care.
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    If you hit my patellar tendon
    with a reflex hammer,
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    my leg is going to jerk forward,
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    and it's going to jerk forward
    a lot faster and a lot more predictably
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    than if I had to think about it myself.
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    It's a reflex.
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    We need to look for the equivalent
    behavioral reflexes
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    and hitch our health care wagon to those.
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    Turns out, though,
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    that most conventional approaches
    to human motivation
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    are based on the idea of education.
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    We assume that if people
    don't behave as they should,
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    it's because they didn't know any better.
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    "If only people knew that smoking
    was dangerous, they wouldn't smoke."
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    Or, we think about economics.
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    The assumption there is that
    we're all constantly calculating
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    the costs and benefits
    of every one of our actions
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    and optimizing that to make
    the perfectly right, rational decision.
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    If that were true, then all we need to do
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    is to find the perfect
    payment system for doctors
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    or the perfect co-payments
    and deductibles for patients,
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    and everything would work out.
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    A better approach lies
    in behavioral economics.
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    Behavioral economists recognize
    that we are irrational.
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    Our decisions are based on emotion,
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    or they're sensitive to framing
    or to social context.
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    We don't always do what's in our own
    long-term best interests.
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    But the key contribution
    to behavioral economics
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    is not in recognizing
    that we are irrational;
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    it's recognizing that we are irrational
    in highly predictable ways.
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    In fact, it's the predictability
    of our psychological foibles
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    that allows us to design
    strategies to overcome them.
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    Forewarned is forearmed.
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    In fact, behavioral economists often use
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    precisely the same behavioral
    reflexes that get us into trouble
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    and turn them around to help us,
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    rather than to hurt us.
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    We see irrationality play out
    in something called "present bias,"
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    where the outcomes in front of us
    are much more motivating
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    than even more important outcomes
    far in the future.
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    If I'm on a diet --
    and I'm always on a diet --
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    (Laughter)
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    and someone offers me a luscious-looking
    piece of chocolate cake,
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    I know I should not
    eat that chocolate cake.
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    That chocolate cake will land
    on that part of my body -- permanently --
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    where that kind of food naturally settles.
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    But the chocolate cake
    looks so good and delicious,
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    and it's right in front of me,
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    and the diet can wait 'til tomorrow.
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    I used to love the comedian Steven Wright.
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    He would have these Zen-like quips.
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    My favorite one was this:
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    "Hard work pays off in the future,
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    but laziness pays off right now."
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    (Laughter)
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    And patients also have present bias.
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    If you have high blood pressure,
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    even if you would desperately
    like to avoid a stroke,
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    and you know that taking
    your antihypertensive medications
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    is one of the best ways
    to reduce that risk,
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    the stroke you avoid is far in the future
    and taking medications is right now.
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    Almost half of the patients who are
    prescribed high blood pressure pills
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    stop taking them within a year.
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    Think of how many lives we could save
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    if we could solve just that one problem.
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    We also tend to overestimate
    the value of small probabilities.
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    This actually explains
    why state lotteries are so popular,
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    even though they return
    pennies on the dollar.
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    Now, some of you
    may buy lottery tickets --
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    it's fun, there's the chance
    you might strike it rich ...
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    But let's face it:
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    this would be a horrible way
    to invest your retirement savings.
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    I once saw a bumper sticker --
    I am not making this up -- that said,
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    "State lotteries are a special tax
    on people who can't do math."
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    (Laughter)
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    It's not that we can't do the math,
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    it's that we can't feel the math.
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    And we also pay much too much
    attention to regret.
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    We all hate the feeling of missing out.
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    So, actually, there was
    this recent lottery,
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    a mega-jackpot lottery,
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    that had a huge payoff,
    something like over a billion dollars.
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    And everyone in my office
    is pooling money to buy lottery tickets,
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    and I'm not having any of this.
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    There I am, like, swaggering
    around the office,
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    "Lotteries are a special tax
    on people who can't do math."
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    (Laughter)
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    And then it hits me:
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    uh oh.
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    What if they win?
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    (Laughter)
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    I'm the only one who shows up
    at work the next day.
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    (Laughter)
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    Now, it's not that I didn't want
    my colleagues to win.
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    I just didn't want them to win without me.
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    Now, it would have been easier
    if I had just taken my 20-dollar bill
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    and put it into the office shredder,
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    and the results would have been the same.
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    Even though I knew
    I shouldn't participate,
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    I handed over my $20 bill,
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    and I never saw it again.
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    (Laughter)
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    We've done a bunch
    of experiments with patients
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    in which we give them
    these electronic pill bottles
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    so we can tell whether
    they're taking their medication or not.
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    And we reward them with a lottery.
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    They get prizes.
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    But they only get prizes
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    if they had taken
    their medication the day before.
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    If not, they get a message
    that says something like,
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    "You would have won a hundred dollars,
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    but you didn't take your medicine
    yesterday, so you don't get it."
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    Well, it turns out, patients hate that.
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    They hate the sense of missing out,
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    and because they can anticipate
    that feeling of regret
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    and they'd like to avoid it,
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    they're much more likely
    to take their medications.
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    Harnessing that sense
    of hating regret works.
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    And it leads to the more general point,
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    which is: once you recognize
    how people are irrational,
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    you're in a much better
    position to help them.
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    Now, this kind of irrationality works out
    even in men's restrooms.
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    So, for those of you
    who don't frequent urinals,
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    let me break this down for you.
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    (Laughter)
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    There is pee all over the floor.
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    (Laughter)
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    And it turns out that you
    can solve this problem
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    by etching the image of a fly
    in the back of the urinal.
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    (Laughter) (Applause)
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    And it makes perfect sense.
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    (Laughter)
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    If I see a fly,
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    I'm gonna get that fly.
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    (Laughter)
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    That fly is going down.
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    (Laughter)
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    Now, this naturally begs the question
    that if men can aim,
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    why were they peeing
    on the floor in the first place?
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    In fact, if they were going
    to pee on the floor,
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    why pee in front of the urinal?
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    You could pee anywhere.
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    (Laughter)
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    And the same thing works in health care.
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    We had a problem in our hospital
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    in which the physicians
    were prescribing brand-name drugs
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    when a generic drug was available.
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    Each one of the lines on this graph
    represents a different drug.
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    And they're listed according to how often
    they're prescribed as generic medications.
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    Those are the top are prescribed
    as generics 100 percent of the time.
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    Those down at the bottom
    are prescribed as generics
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    less than 20 percent of the time.
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    And we'd have meetings with clinicians
    and all sorts of education sessions,
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    and nothing worked --
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    all the lines are pretty much horizontal.
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    Until, someone installed
    a little piece of software
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    in the electronic health record
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    that defaulted the prescriptions
    to generic medications
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    instead of the brand-name drugs.
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    Now, it doesn't take a statistician
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    to see that this problem
    was solved overnight,
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    and it has stayed solved ever since.
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    In fact, in the two and a half years
    since this program started,
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    our hospital has saved 32 million dollars.
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    Let me say that again: 32 million dollars.
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    And all we did was make it easier
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    for the doctors to do what they
    fundamentally wanted to do all along.
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    It also works to play into
    people's notions of loss.
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    We did this with a contest
    to help people walk more.
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    We wanted everyone to walk
    at least 7,000 steps,
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    and we measured their step count
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    with the accelerometer
    on their cell phone.
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    Group A, the control group,
    just got told whether they had walked
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    7,000 steps or not.
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    Group B got a financial incentive.
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    We gave them $1.40 for every day
    they walked 7,000 steps.
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    Group C got the same financial incentive,
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    but it was framed as a loss
    rather than a gain:
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    $1.40 a day is 42 dollars a month,
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    so we gave these participants 42 dollars
    at the beginning of each month
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    in a virtual account that they could see,
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    and we took away $1.40 for every day
    they didn't walk 7,000 steps.
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    Now, an economist would say
    that those two financial incentives
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    are the same.
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    For every day you walk 7,000 steps,
    you're $1.40 richer.
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    But a behavioral economist
    would say that they're different,
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    because we're much more motivated
    to avoid a $1.40 loss
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    than we are motivated
    to achieve a $1.40 gain.
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    And that's exactly what happened.
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    Those in the group that received $1.40
    for every day they walked 7,000 steps
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    were no more likely to meet their goal
    than the control group.
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    The financial incentive didn't work.
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    But those who had a loss-framed incentive
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    met their goal 50 percent
    more of the time.
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    It doesn't make economic sense,
    but it makes psychological sense,
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    because losses loom larger than gains.
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    And now we're using loss-framed incentives
    to help patients walk more,
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    lose weight
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    and take their medications.
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    Money can be a motivator.
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    We all know that.
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    But it's far more influential
    when it's paired with psychology.
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    And money, of course,
    has its own disadvantages.
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    My favorite example of this
    involves a daycare program.
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    The greatest sin you can commit in daycare
    is picking up your kids late.
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    No one is happy.
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    Your kids are crying
    because you don't love them.
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    (Laughter)
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    The teachers are unhappy
    because they leave work late.
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    And you feel terribly guilty.
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    This daycare program in Israel
    decided they wanted to stop this problem,
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    and they did something that many
    daycare programs in the US do,
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    which is they installed
    a fine for late pickups.
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    And the fine they chose was 10 shekels,
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    which is about three bucks.
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    And guess what happened?
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    Late pickups increased.
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    And if you think about it,
    it makes perfect sense.
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    What a deal!
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    For 10 shekels --
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    (Laughter)
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    you can keep my kids all night!
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    (Laughter)
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    They took a perfectly strong
    intrinsic motivation not to be late,
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    and they cheapened it.
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    What's worse, when they
    realized their mistake
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    and they took away
    the financial incentive,
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    the late pickups still stayed
    at the high level.
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    They had already poisoned
    the social contract.
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    Health care is full
    of strong intrinsic motivations.
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    We have doctors and patients
    who already want to do the right thing.
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    Financial incentives can help,
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    but we shouldn't expect
    money in health care
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    to do all of the heavy lifting.
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    Instead, perhaps the most powerful
    influencers of health behavior
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    are our social interactions.
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    Social engagement works in health care,
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    and it works in two directions.
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    First, we fundamentally care
    what others think of us.
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    And so one of the most powerful ways
    to change our behavior
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    is to make our activities
    witnessable to others.
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    We behave differently
    when we're being observed
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    than when we're not.
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    I've been to some restaurants
    that don't have sinks in the bathrooms.
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    Instead, when you step out,
    the sink is outside
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    in the main part of the restaurant,
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    where everyone can see
    whether you wash your hands or not.
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    Now, I don't know for sure,
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    but I am convinced
    that handwashing is much greater
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    in those particular settings.
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    We are always on our best behavior
    when we're being observed.
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    In fact, there was this amazing study
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    that was done in an intensive care unit
    in a Florida hospital.
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    The handwashing rates were very low,
    which is dangerous, of course,
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    because it can spread infection.
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    And so some researchers pasted
    a picture of someone's eyes over the sink.
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    It wasn't a real person,
    it was just a photograph.
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    In fact, it wasn't even their whole face,
    it was just their eyes looking at you.
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    (Laughter)
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    Handwashing rates more than doubled.
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    It seems we care so much
    what other people think of us
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    that our behavior improves
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    even if we merely imagine
    that we're being observed.
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    And not only do we care
    what others think of us,
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    we fundamentally model our behaviors
    on what we see other people do.
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    And it all comes back to seat belts.
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    When I was a kid, I used to love
    the "Batman" TV series with Adam West.
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    Everything that Batman
    and Robin did was so cool,
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    and, of course, the Batmobile
    was the coolest thing of all.
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    Now, that show aired from 1966 to 1968,
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    and at that time, seat belts
    were optional accessories in cars.
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    But the producers of that show
    did something really important.
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    When Batman and Robin
    got in the Batmobile,
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    the camera would focus on their laps,
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    and you would see Batman and Robin
    put on their seat belts.
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    Now, if Batman and Robin
    put on their seat belts,
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    you can bet that I was going to wear
    my seat belt, too.
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    I bet that show saved thousands of lives.
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    And again, it works in health care, too.
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    Doctors use antibiotics more appropriately
    when they see how other doctors use them.
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    So many activities in health care
    are hidden, they're unwitnessed,
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    but doctors are social animals,
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    and they perform better
    when they see what other doctors do.
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    So social influence works in health care.
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    So does tying it to notions of regret
    or to loss aversion.
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    We would never think of using these tools
    if we thought that everyone was rational
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    all the time.
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    Now, just to be clear:
    I am not condemning rationality.
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    I mean, that really would be irrational.
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    But we all know that it's
    the nonrational parts of our minds
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    where we get courage,
    creativity, inspiration
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    and everything else that sparks passion.
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    And we know something else, too.
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    We know that we can be much more effective
    at improving health behavior
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    if we work with the irrational
    parts of our nature
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    instead of ignoring them
    or fighting against them.
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    When it comes to health care,
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    understanding our irrationality
    is just another tool in our toolbox.
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    And harnessing that irrationality --
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    that may be the most rational move of all.
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    Thank you.
  • 16:34 - 16:38
    (Applause)
Title:
For better health care, embrace irrationality
Speaker:
David Asch
Description:

Why do we make poor decisions that we know are bad for our health? In this frank, funny talk, behavioral economist and health policy expert David Asch explains why our behavior is often irrational -- in highly predictable ways -- and shows how we can harness this irrationality to make better decisions and improve our health care system overall.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
16:53
  • The English transcript was updated on 12/11/19:

    06:34
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    Thank you!

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