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We the people, the citizen scientists | Effy Vayena | TEDxAthens

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    I will speak to you in English,
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    although you can tell
    my native language is Greek.
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    One of my favourite authors,
    Vladimir Nabokov, wrote once:
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    "My personal tragedy, the one that cannot
    and should not be anyone's concern,
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    is that I abandoned
    my natural language, my natural idiom".
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    And although I won't go as far as him
    to say that it is my personal tragedy,
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    I did abandon Greek,
    and I adopted English.
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    The language of science,
    of modern science.
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    And I adopted English when I embarked on
    my intellectual and professional journey,
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    to study something
    that fascinated me for a long time,
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    and that was the interaction
    between science and society.
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    How do they relate to each other?
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    How, through this interaction,
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    moral boundaries are emerging
    for science and for society.
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    In other words, I've been trying to study
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    how the language of science
    and the language of society relate.
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    Is this a tragic relationship
    of abandonment,
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    or is it a relationship of symbiosis,
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    and if the latter,
    what does it mean really?
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    How does it work?
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    And what I'm going
    to talk to you about tonight
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    is an illustration of that relationship,
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    because I find the example of tonight
    much more interesting than many other
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    because it is about science,
    made by non-scientists.
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    Now many of you, in this beautiful room,
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    are calling yourselves scientists I guess,
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    and we heard today
    a few scientists speaking.
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    To do that, you studied at an institution,
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    you had tests, certificates,
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    and you entered a community of experts.
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    A close-knit community, which has
    a particular language, and a code.
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    Now, in this closed net we take pride,
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    because science is important,
    and scientists are important,
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    and without science, our lives
    wouldn't be as liveable as they are,
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    and our opportunities
    to flourish would be limited.
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    And that's an important thing to remember.
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    So science and scientists
    are very important,
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    but the question I want to put to you is,
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    how would it be if I told you
    that non-scientists, any of you,
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    ordinary people out there,
    can actually contribute
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    to the development
    of scientific knowledge?
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    How would it be, if just ordinary people,
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    who don't understand
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    the scientific method,
    the scientific thinking,
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    people who never stepped foot in a lab
    that sequences people's DNA,
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    they can make a significant contribution
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    in the development
    of scientific knowledge.
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    This is not bad science fiction.
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    As we speak there are millions of people,
    the ones you see here, on this slide,
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    around science,
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    that are actually making
    important contributions
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    to scientific development.
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    Now, the phenomenon
    is called "Citizen Science",
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    and the people who do it
    "Citizen Scientists".
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    It's a hard thing to define,
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    so I will try to use
    some examples to define it,
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    but before I do that, my remark is,
    when I use the word "Citizen",
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    please don't think of citizen
    in the sense of a membership to a state,
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    rather, membership
    to the state of knowledge,
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    or to the republic of knowledge.
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    A republic in which we are all members,
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    and in which we all have
    rights and responsibilities.
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    Let me get to the examples.
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    Citizen Science comes in various forms.
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    One such form is in crowds.
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    4,500 people contributed
    their observations
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    during a solar eclipse
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    which helped scientists understand why,
    during the solar eclipse,
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    there is an eerie sense of cold wind
    for those observers.
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    For many years, scientists were trying
    to understand that, but they couldn't;
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    what they were missing
    is all these observations.
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    Imagine 4,500 scientists
    making an observation,
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    that's a lot to ask from scientists.
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    Those citizens contributed that.
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    In 2007, a group of astronomers
    developed Galaxy Zoo,
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    an open platform where
    they uploaded pictures of galaxies.
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    A lot of observable galaxies
    that we need to understand,
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    but we have to classify first.
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    They asked the public to help
    classify those galaxies and they thought,
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    well there are going to be a few people
    maybe, interested in this project,
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    who knows how many.
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    In the first year, 150,000 people
    made over 50 million classifications,
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    a lot of people
    got interested in this project.
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    Galaxy Zoo is one of the very successful
    Citizen Scientist projects,
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    and has now moved into something
    called "Zooniverse",
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    which is a platform that hosts
    a lot of Citizen Science projects,
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    from Astronomy, to Physics, to Medicine,
    Biology, and many other areas.
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    But Citizen Science comes also
    in other, smaller kind of constellations.
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    These are the Hempels.
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    The girls, the twins,
    were born with a disease.
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    It took them two years to find out
    what the disease was.
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    It looked bad, and the doctors
    eventually figured out
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    that they suffered from
    the Nieman Pick C disease.
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    There is no treatment,
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    they probably wouldn't
    come to adolescence.
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    The responsible gene for that
    is the one that controls our lipids.
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    The parents are not scientists,
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    they haven't gone to an institution
    that teaches science,
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    and they don't have a degree in science.
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    They were devoted, caring,
    curious, maybe desperate,
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    and really convinced
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    that they have to do something
    to help their kids.
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    The girls are suffering
    from a rare disease,
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    so not really in the centre
    of the scientific interest.
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    They pushed very hard,
    they fund-raised,
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    they networked with scientists,
    they collaborated with scientists,
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    they were even able to come up,
    themselves, over their own study,
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    with a compound, cyclodextrin,
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    that convinced eventually some scientists
    to put it in a clinical trial.
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    The clinical trial is today funded
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    by the National Institute
    of Health in the United States.
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    We still have to know the result but still
    it is a contribution to their kids,
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    but also to the generalizable knowledge,
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    to the tree of scientific knowledge.
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    Kim Goodsell is an extreme athlete.
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    While she was training for Iron Man,
    she started having instability.
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    She went to doctors,
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    they diagnosed her, eventually,
    with two diseases.
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    Probably rare again,
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    and told her that she simply had bad luck;
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    well, she was not
    very satisfied with that.
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    She needed to do something,
    and she convinced herself
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    that she needed a unifying diagnosis
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    of how can one have
    two diseases at the same time
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    and we don't know what to do about it?
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    She invested hundreds
    of hours to study genetics,
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    not in an institution, not in a lab,
    studying sources that she found,
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    and trying to connect the dots;
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    and she eventually did, to the surprise
    of the top experts in the field.
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    Today she says her contribution
    not only helped her, to improve her life,
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    but also to produce that little
    tiny bit of knowledge
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    that can be generalized and help others.
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    My last example is Sara Riggare.
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    Sara is a Parkinson's patient,
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    and she also calls herself
    Citizen Scientist.
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    She has to take six prescription
    medications, six times a day,
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    at five different intervals,
    in six different combinations.
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    You can do the math.
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    What Sara says is that
    that's a lot of self care.
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    All the blue dots on that graph
    are the 8,765 hours that she self-cares.
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    The red dot, it's the one hour
    that she sees her physician in a year.
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    What she says is that she doesn't want
    one more hour, or a lot more red dots.
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    What she argues is that
    in all those blue dots
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    there is a lot of knowledge
    that she can collect,
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    and that knowledge can help her,
    can also be used for other patients.
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    This is a kind of knowledge
    we don't capture,
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    because she goes to the doctor
    only for that hour,
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    and she tells him or her
    that she took the pills
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    or she feels better or worse.
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    Her point and her advocacy
    has been to encourage patients
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    to collect this data,
    to collect the observations,
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    and put them back into the pot of data
    that scientists can analyse.
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    The reason that Sara is arguing
    that this can happen,
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    and she is trying to motivate
    the Parkinson's community
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    and many other patients for that,
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    is because, with the technology
    we have today, that is possible.
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    We all walk around with our smartphones,
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    we can take pictures,
    we can measure things,
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    we all have sensors, or most of us,
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    and globally we know that
    there are more smartphones,
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    active subscriptions and mobile phones,
    than people on the planet.
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    So that's not just a few people,
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    there's lots of people
    with the technology.
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    We are mostly on the internet,
    most of us on the internet,
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    we have technology, we have connectivity,
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    and there's something else
    that's happening.
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    There is a social trend about empowerment:
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    how we, as scientists, citizens,
    patients, whatever capacity we have,
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    can become more in control of our lives
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    and become more active participants
    in decisions that matter about our lives.
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    And these different things
    that are happening
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    have created a very fertile environment
    for this movement of Citizen Science
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    to emerge, and also to flourish.
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    But you can ask the question.
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    I told you already that science is great,
    it has done so much for us,
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    does it really need all those people?
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    Doing things of that sort?
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    Maybe the Hempels or Kim Goodsell
    are extreme cases, and that's welcome,
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    but do we have to
    systematically go out there
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    and encourage people to do that stuff?
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    Does science need that?
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    And, more importantly,
    does society need that?
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    And I'll answer the question, I hope,
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    "We live in a society absolutely dependent
    on science and technology,
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    and yet we have cleverly arranged things

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    so that almost no one understands
    science and technology.
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    That's a clear prescription for disaster".
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    Scientific literacy
    around the world is not great,
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    even in countries that produce
    some very serious science;
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    at the same time,
    science becomes more complex,
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    and we more dependent on science.
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    And yet we don't understand it,
    lots of people don't understand it.
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    Citizen Science and this engagement
    with the scientific activity,
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    this hands-on engagement,
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    can actually contribute
    to filling this gap.
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    Science is important for democracy,
    I hope you agree with me on that,
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    but I'll explain quickly
    why I think it's really important.
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    Democracy is something
    that we all participate in,
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    or we ought to participate in:
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    we have to make decisions collectively,
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    about scientific matters
    and societal matters.
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    And the important thing we have to do
    is to be able to think critically,
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    and not be swayed
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    by things that are not real,
    by non-facts, et cetera
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    Science, the scientific thinking,
    the scientific method,
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    the critical eye that science introduces
    to the way we approach things,
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    can help us do that.
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    Can also help us think,
    and probably understand,
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    that sometimes true things
    are counter-intuitive,
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    and that's always a little harder on us.
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    But for democracy we would need
    to develop those skills.
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    And because democracy
    is something that is for all of us,
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    we can't expect that the tools
    of thinking, of critical thinking,
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    and of these possibilities of evaluation,
    are only kept for the experts.
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    We all have to be able
    to deal with those tools.
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    "Out on the edge
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    you see all kinds of things
    you can't see from the center."
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    "Big, undreamed-of things -
    the people on the edge see them first."
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    If you have people on the edge of science,
    they can see things.
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    The rare disease people can see things.
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    Sara Riggare can see things,
    she is not in the centre of science.
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    She is out there.
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    And she can imagine things
    that it would be very useful
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    if those scientists in the centre
    were able to understand.
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    There is insight on the edge
    that is necessary for the centre.
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    This language of the side,
    of the edge, can be useful
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    to the language of the centre,
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    and it's an opportunity
    with Citizen Science to bring it in,
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    and therefore it's an opportunity
    to enrich science,
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    if people from the edge
    are coming to the centre.
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    It is therefore important,
    not only for society,
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    not only for democracy,
    but also for science itself,
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    to encourage and respect
    and protect Citizen Science.
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    And in fact, in my view,
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    it's important for all of us,
    no matter what role we play.
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    And if it is so important,
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    we also have to protect Citizen Science
    from some risks that it might run.
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    And there are two risks:
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    one is the risk to be hijacked;
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    Citizen Science has become fashionable,
    it is becoming fashionable,
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    because, who wouldn't like
    a big crowd of 4,500 people,
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    or of a million people,
    doing a task voluntarily,
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    giving data voluntarily,
    without asking to be paid,
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    without asking anything,
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    just doing it for the interest of science,
    for the interest of scientific knowledge.
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    It's a great thing.
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    There are a lot of interests
    coming in there.
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    If Citizen Science gets hijacked,
    if people are exploited, it won't work.
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    If people are not given credit
    for what they do, it won't work.
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    If people's interest of altruism
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    to help science, to help
    our society become better,
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    are hijacked by other interests
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    that are not aligned with the motivations
    of Citizen Scientists, it won't work.
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    And that would be a huge loss,
    so we have to protect this phenomenon,
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    we have to protect the participation
    of all citizens to science,
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    from that particular risk
    of being hijacked.
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    But Citizen Science
    runs also another risk.
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    A little bit more subtle
    but equally important.
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    This is the risk of suffocation.
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    Our standard science,
    our mainstream science,
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    the one we take pride in and we like,
    and it has helped us so much,
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    is a closed system,
    it has its own language,
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    it has its own rules,
    and for the most part
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    that's a good thing,
    we don't want lousy science
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    that changes its rules every now and then,
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    but we want openness in science
    and inside the scientific community.
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    We want openness that will allow science
    to see its own blind spots,
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    because it has them.
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    That means openness to accept
    that those people from the edge
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    have something important
    to contribute to the centre,
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    and therefore means
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    that it won't suffocate that activity
    that's coming towards the centre.
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    And for that we don't even need
    to invent a new moral imperative,
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    a new ethic.
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    It's actually a very fundamental thing
    in our morality, in our humanity,
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    to have people, all of us, participate
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    in a valuable social
    activity like science.
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    And you won't have to go
    too far to discover this,
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    it's already inscribed in the Universal
    Declaration of Human Rights.
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    One specific article which,
    even if you are familiar
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    with International Law and Human Rights
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    you may not have actually
    paid attention to because nobody did,
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    is this one, Article 27,
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    which recognises that we all
    have this right to participate
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    in the cultural life,
    the community, enjoy the Arts,
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    and to share in the scientific
    advancements and its benefits.
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    While we are all interested
    in the benefit,
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    we have paid little attention
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    to the importance of sharing
    in the scientific advancement.
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    It's now a big opportunity
    to have Citizen Science
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    and that participation in the making
    of scientific advancements,
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    giving us all the hope we probably need.
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    And I hope we won't miss this chance.
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    Thank you very much.
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    (Applause)
Title:
We the people, the citizen scientists | Effy Vayena | TEDxAthens
Description:

At the intersection of multiple fields, Effy Vayena explores how values such as freedom of choice, participation and privacy are affected by recent developments in precision medicine and in digital health.

Effy Vayena is Professor of Health Policy at the University of Zurich, where she leads the Health Ethics and Policy Lab.

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx

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