All the lonely people | Karen Dolva | TEDxArendal
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0:11 - 0:14If I had died at 22,
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0:15 - 0:18it would have taken weeks
before anyone would have noticed -
0:19 - 0:22because at 22, I was studying,
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0:22 - 0:23I lived on my own,
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0:24 - 0:29and I'd pulled myself away from everyone
without anyone really noticing. -
0:30 - 0:33The next minutes will not be about me;
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0:33 - 0:37it will, however, be about the work
that I'm trying to do. -
0:38 - 0:43Because two years ago,
I decided to put an end to loneliness. -
0:44 - 0:48The loneliness that I and my co-founders
had experienced in our own lives -
0:49 - 0:55was enough for us to quit our jobs
and start a company called No Isolation. -
0:56 - 1:00We had no idea
of what we were getting into -
1:00 - 1:02and how big the issue really was.
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1:02 - 1:05And I don't think that you do either.
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1:05 - 1:11Loneliness is not just a sad feeling
that we need to get rid of -
1:11 - 1:13because we want people
to be slightly more happy. -
1:14 - 1:16Loneliness is dangerous.
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1:17 - 1:22People suffering from loneliness
are in a constant fight-or-flight mode, -
1:23 - 1:29a stress mode very much equal
to the one I'm experiencing right now, -
1:30 - 1:32only there's a huge difference
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1:33 - 1:36between me experiencing this
for a couple of minutes now -
1:36 - 1:38and living with it for years.
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1:38 - 1:42These increased stress levels
lead to a number of things, -
1:42 - 1:46but there are some consequences
that are more severe than others. -
1:47 - 1:50Several studies have shown
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1:50 - 1:56that feeling lonely results
in a 29% increased risk of heart disease. -
1:58 - 2:04Feeling lonely also increases the risk
of having a stroke by 32%. -
2:06 - 2:11You might not believe it,
but when it comes to heart disease, -
2:12 - 2:16loneliness is a bigger killer
than obesity. -
2:17 - 2:20So, If we could do
our own mini experiment: -
2:20 - 2:22all of you can raise your hand,
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2:24 - 2:27and please keep it there
until told otherwise. -
2:28 - 2:34So think about the feeling
of being all alone, -
2:34 - 2:38[what] it is like to not have anyone
you feel you can talk to -
2:38 - 2:40or reach out to in a moment.
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2:40 - 2:43Now everyone who
has never had that feeling -
2:44 - 2:46can [put] their hands down.
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2:47 - 2:50Good. So all of us - it's okay.
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2:51 - 2:54So all of us have experienced loneliness.
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2:54 - 2:58But 16% of the Norwegian population
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2:58 - 3:03reports that they're being haunted
by loneliness every day. -
3:03 - 3:05And that's in Norway.
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3:06 - 3:10According to the United Nations,
we're the happiest country in the world! -
3:10 - 3:17And still, 16% is 800,000 people
in this tiny country alone -
3:17 - 3:22that feel like they have no one
to talk to on a day-to-day basis. -
3:23 - 3:27And when you consider
how big of a taboo loneliness actually is, -
3:27 - 3:32it gets worse because people
do not willingly admit to being lonely, -
3:33 - 3:36meaning that 16 [%] is probably too low.
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3:36 - 3:41The relationship between age
and loneliness is shaped like a U. -
3:41 - 3:46The youngest and the oldest generations
are the most lonely generations. -
3:46 - 3:49And while most research
is focused on the seniors, -
3:50 - 3:54the amount of lonely young people
is severely underestimated. -
3:55 - 3:58It should be no surprise to anyone here
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3:58 - 4:04that lonely children, teenagers
and young adults perform worse at school, -
4:04 - 4:05are more depressed
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4:05 - 4:09and experience more suicidal thoughts
than their socially connected peers. -
4:10 - 4:13And then there are children
suffering from long-term illness - -
4:13 - 4:18and with long-term illness, I mean
ME and CP and cancer and heart failure, -
4:18 - 4:20all of these diagnoses -
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4:20 - 4:25and they're particularly exposed
to being socially isolated and lonely. -
4:26 - 4:29They lose their place in society
with their diagnosis. -
4:29 - 4:33It's not always easy
to find their way back. -
4:35 - 4:39I didn't realize
how important this issue was -
4:39 - 4:42until I met a woman named Anna.
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4:42 - 4:4514 years before I met her,
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4:45 - 4:49one of her twin daughters
was diagnosed with a form of cancer. -
4:50 - 4:52And Cornelia lost her life
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4:52 - 4:56after having spent two years
moving in and out of various hospitals. -
4:57 - 5:00But when Cornelia passed away,
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5:00 - 5:03Anna looked back
on the previous two years -
5:03 - 5:04with grievance
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5:04 - 5:06because the worst thing
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5:06 - 5:10had not been the diagnosis
or the treatments or the pain -
5:11 - 5:15but the fact that her teenage daughter
became isolated from her friends -
5:15 - 5:17and her normal life.
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5:18 - 5:22A 13-year-old girl is a 13-year-old girl,
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5:23 - 5:27and no diagnosis in the world
can take away her social needs. -
5:27 - 5:29But an illness
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5:29 - 5:33will definitely get in the way
of her acting upon those needs. -
5:36 - 5:39So let's move on
to something slightly less heavy. -
5:40 - 5:43I guess that all of you
have heard of Tinder. -
5:43 - 5:45It's a dating app.
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5:45 - 5:46Yep.
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5:46 - 5:50I have a theory that Tinder
has actually done more for public health -
5:50 - 5:52than we give them credit for.
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5:53 - 5:54We could discuss it forever
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5:54 - 5:58because despite Tinder doing
the very best job they can, -
5:58 - 6:02more people than ever before are single.
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6:03 - 6:05And that is actually a huge problem.
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6:06 - 6:12Because the single strongest predictor
for loneliness is not your age; -
6:13 - 6:15it is whether or not
you're in a relationship. -
6:16 - 6:21As a single woman, I'm four times
more likely to be haunted by loneliness -
6:21 - 6:23than women who are in a relationship.
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6:24 - 6:25But the silver lining
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6:25 - 6:28is that in this matter,
I'm very lucky to be a girl -
6:29 - 6:34because that guy - he is ten times
more likely to be haunted by loneliness -
6:35 - 6:37than his mates who are in relationships.
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6:39 - 6:40And yes, it is a fact
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6:40 - 6:44that single people are more miserable
than those who are hitched. -
6:45 - 6:48You would think that by 2017
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6:48 - 6:51we would have figured out
how to properly connect people. -
6:52 - 6:55But it looks like
we're getting worse at it. -
6:56 - 6:58Loneliness has become a pandemic.
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6:58 - 7:01It does not discriminate on age
or gender or borders. -
7:02 - 7:03It happens all over the world,
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7:04 - 7:08and it happens most frequently
to those of us who are already vulnerable. -
7:09 - 7:13As I said in the beginning -
I don't think I can stress this enough - -
7:13 - 7:15the constant flight-or-fight mode
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7:15 - 7:19results in a 29% increased risk
of heart diseases. -
7:20 - 7:24That's equivalent to smoking
15 cigarettes every day. -
7:24 - 7:28It is more dangerous
than being an alcoholic. -
7:29 - 7:33And on top of these physical risks,
there's one more thing: -
7:34 - 7:39feeling lonely doubles
your likelihood of getting dementia. -
7:41 - 7:42Obviously,
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7:42 - 7:46there's an enormous individual cost
in that of feeling all alone. -
7:46 - 7:48There's also an enormous public cost.
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7:49 - 7:53People getting sick is expensive;
it is extremely expensive. -
7:54 - 7:57And to give you a specific example
of how loneliness is expensive, -
7:57 - 8:00we can stay on dementia
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8:00 - 8:05because 66% of all the money
we spend on mental healthcare -
8:06 - 8:09is spent on people
suffering from dementia. -
8:10 - 8:13And loneliness doubles your risk
of developing it. -
8:15 - 8:17We're going to add one more number:
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8:17 - 8:2212% of the Norwegian population
are daily smokers; -
8:22 - 8:2516% of us or maybe more
are haunted by loneliness. -
8:26 - 8:28We know that both of them
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8:28 - 8:32give you an equally increased risk
of heart disease and strokes. -
8:33 - 8:35So they're both extremely dangerous,
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8:35 - 8:38and one of them
is even exceptionally painful. -
8:39 - 8:43But the governments of the world
are clearly focusing on only one of them. -
8:46 - 8:48But what can you really do?
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8:49 - 8:53We set up taxes for cigarettes,
and then we banned smoking inside. -
8:54 - 8:59It's quite obvious that we can't use
the same methods for curing loneliness. -
9:01 - 9:04So where do we start if we want to have
an impact on a global scale? -
9:05 - 9:10Well, I started with studying
almost the opposite of psychology -
9:10 - 9:12because I chose computer science.
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9:14 - 9:20And the debates around the impact
of technology on loneliness is growing. -
9:21 - 9:25Some argue that the use of technology
is replacing human contact; -
9:25 - 9:30others argue that technology
is all we need to establish new relations. -
9:32 - 9:34I think that debate lacks one key insight
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9:35 - 9:38because it is not
about the technology at all. -
9:38 - 9:42We could say that it is somewhat
about what the technology does -
9:42 - 9:46and somewhat about how we,
as consumers, use technology. -
9:48 - 9:50But most importantly,
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9:50 - 9:54it's about the people
who develop the technology that we use. -
9:55 - 9:58They choose how it works and what it does.
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9:59 - 10:03And different things do different things.
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10:03 - 10:07And it's people
who develop the stuff we use. -
10:09 - 10:13Developments in communication technology
have emerged rapidly. -
10:14 - 10:16But unfortunately,
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10:16 - 10:21technology is almost always developed
to make efficient people more efficient. -
10:22 - 10:28New technologies are too often built
for those who are already moving fast, -
10:29 - 10:33rather than for those
who might benefit from it the most. -
10:34 - 10:36And for vulnerable groups,
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10:36 - 10:39the most important developments
have failed to appear. -
10:40 - 10:44I can give you one
of the many perfect examples -
10:44 - 10:48of how the tech world
has left the senior generations behind. -
10:50 - 10:54Technology-based innovations
such as videoconferencing - -
10:54 - 10:56it's been around for years.
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10:57 - 11:00We've also known for years
that videoconferencing -
11:00 - 11:04has a very positive impact
on social isolation and loneliness. -
11:05 - 11:11But yet 70% - seven, zero;
more than 2/3 - of those over 80 -
11:12 - 11:13have never even tried it.
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11:14 - 11:16We know that this technology can help,
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11:16 - 11:20but still we haven't made it available
for those who could benefit from it most. -
11:22 - 11:24I imagine that many of you in the audience
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11:24 - 11:29have parents or even grandparents
that fit into the description, -
11:29 - 11:31seniors that cannot use
existing technology. -
11:32 - 11:36And then some of you
might want to jump up and say, -
11:36 - 11:39"My mom or dad can use an iPad."
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11:40 - 11:41And to statements like that
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11:41 - 11:44there's always some questions
that pop into my mind: -
11:46 - 11:49Could she go and buy that iPad,
download the programs that she needs -
11:50 - 11:52and start using it without help?
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11:53 - 11:57And why is that scenario so obscene?
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11:58 - 12:00Shouldn't she be able to do that?
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12:03 - 12:06My contribution
to put an end to loneliness -
12:07 - 12:09is developing solutions
that would work like that, -
12:10 - 12:13developing technology for smaller groups
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12:14 - 12:18that takes into consideration
their actual needs and capabilities, -
12:18 - 12:22technology that can foster
face-to-face contacts. -
12:25 - 12:28My second contribution
is talking about it. -
12:29 - 12:34Because we can tackle loneliness
by simply opening up a conversation, -
12:35 - 12:37making sure that everyone is aware.
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12:39 - 12:42I did not understand how lonely I was,
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12:42 - 12:44and of course, ironically,
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12:44 - 12:47the last thing you want
is to have people around you; -
12:47 - 12:50you do not want to let anyone in.
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12:50 - 12:54And I'm so far from being the only one
who has felt like this. -
12:55 - 12:57Depression is a massive issue.
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12:57 - 13:00But I'm 100% sure
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13:00 - 13:06that loneliness is often at the root
and always a contributor to depression. -
13:07 - 13:09Because we as humans
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13:09 - 13:11are fundamentally built
to be a part of a group. -
13:12 - 13:15We're fundamentally built
to depend on others -
13:15 - 13:17and to have others depending on us.
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13:18 - 13:22There's nothing cool or brave or great
about going through life alone. -
13:23 - 13:28So please, call the friend
that I know that you all have, -
13:29 - 13:31and just be bored together.
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13:31 - 13:34And then let people in.
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13:35 - 13:39Because when you lean on others,
you're helping them -
13:39 - 13:41and you're helping yourself
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13:42 - 13:44and you're actually helping our taxes.
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13:45 - 13:48So that was it. Thank you.
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13:48 - 13:51(Applause)
- Title:
- All the lonely people | Karen Dolva | TEDxArendal
- Description:
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Loneliness is prevalent in the world, even in some of the countries known to be the happiest. Listen to Karen Dolva talk about the issues that led to the co-founding of her company, No Isolation.
Karen Dolva is the CEO and co-founder of No Isolation. Her background is in UX/interaction design and informatics, and she previously co-founded the consultancy company UX Lab. With her co-founders, Marius Aabel and Matias Doyle, she has grown No Isolation to 36 employees, built AV1 for children with long-term illness, expanded sales into five countries and started development of a senior product in less than two years. No Isolation’s goal is to help as many people as possible to move out of social isolation and loneliness by making technology available for those who can not just use generic solutions to stay connected.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- English
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- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 13:55
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