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"Dear Brother Tim,
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Please excuse my English
which is very bad."
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This comes from Nadia from Madagascar.
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"Is the concept of church buildings
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(going to a church - the building)
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every Sunday -
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that is the way most Christians
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work to assemble biblical?"
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So it's a question.
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There's a question mark
at the end of this.
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"Is the concept of church buildings -
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the way most Christians assemble -
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is that biblical?
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Going to a church - the
building - every Sunday?
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In the light of Scriptures,
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Holy Spirit, and prayer,
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God revealed to me that it wasn't
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and that we have to return
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to the biblical assembling -
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the home church,
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taught by Jesus Christ and the Apostles.
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Jesus didn't tell us to build
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nor to name buildings
where we had to assemble.
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Even when 3,000 people were converted
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the day of Pentecost,
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they didn't say, oh,
let's go build a building.
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I've discovered also that
all this way of assembling
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are inherited from paganism,
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Roman, and Athenian traditions."
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So she asks the question,
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but then before she gives anybody
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time to answer it,
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she says that Scripture, Holy Spirit,
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and prayer - God has revealed to her
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that it wasn't correct and right.
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So I think she's not actually -
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I don't get the feeling
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that she's asking about
or asserting herself
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as to whether or not buildings
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should be called churches.
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Certainly, the church is the people -
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not the building,
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but that doesn't seem to be her issue.
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Her issue seems to be
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with buildings altogether.
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Her issue seems to be:
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Is it right and appropriate
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to buy a building for a church -
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the church being the people -
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to come together and meet in.
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She says that Scripture,
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Holy Spirit, and prayer -
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through all those means, God has revealed
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that it wasn't
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and that we have to return
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to the biblical assembling -
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the home church -
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taught by Jesus Christ and the Apostles.
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So she's making that assertion,
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but let's ask that question.
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(incomplete thought)
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When I read questions,
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I don't just buy into their assertions.
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We need to step back and ask
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if their presuppositions are correct.
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Are they right?
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Are they biblical?
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She is saying that Jesus
Christ and the Apostles
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taught that the only proper way
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for the church to meet is in the home.
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So, we don't need to spend
a whole lot of time on this.
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But let's think.
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Here's one thing we can lay down.
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Jesus Himself never anywhere in Scripture
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taught that the church when it assembled,
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when two or three gathered
together in His name,
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you had to do it in a home.
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Nor did He say you had to buy a building.
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He simply is silent on the matter.
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He doesn't deal with it.
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You cannot come up with a verse
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where Jesus Christ discusses this.
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So what do we have?
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What we have is the book of Acts.
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Because I can tell you this as well,
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there is no place in any of the epistles,
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and I'll include the book of Acts,
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that demands that we meet
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in any specific location.
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There is no commandment.
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There is no mandate.
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It doesn't exist.
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What we have is the
example of the early church -
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primarily the book of Acts,
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but there are some places
in the epistles as well
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where indeed we're told where they met.
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Let's look at some of those.
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The first thing I want you
to think about is this:
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Acts 2:42. Let's turn there.
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Acts 2:42.
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Whoever gets there, read it to me.
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Acts 2:42.
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"And they continued steadfastly
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in the Apostles' doctrine
and the fellowship,
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and the breaking of bread and prayers."
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How far did you want me to read?
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Tim: Now see, hold your place.
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That text tells us
what the early church did.
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And what did they do? Four things.
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(from the room)
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Doctrine, fellowship,
breaking of bread, and prayers.
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Tim: They gave themselves
to the Apostles' doctrine,
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to what?
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(from the room) Breaking of bread.
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Tim: Breaking of bread.
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(from the room) Prayers.
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Tim: Prayer.
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And that's not the right order, brother.
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What's the exact Spirit-given order?
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(from the room)
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They continued steadfastly
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in the Apostles' doctrine (Tim: right),
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fellowship, breaking of
bread, and then prayer.
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Tim: There you go.
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Now, go down to v. 46.
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What does it say?
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"So continuing daily with
one accord in the temple,
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and breaking bread from house to house..."
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Tim: Okay. Stop.
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Where did they meet?
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(from the room) House to house.
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Tim: Before that.
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In the temple and...
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where did they break bread?
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House to house.
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Now see, again, there's no mandate.
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There's no commandment.
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There's no imperative
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with regards to one or the other.
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Now what was the temple?
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The temple was a public place.
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The temple was a public building.
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They met there.
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We don't know how long
the early church met there,
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but they met there.
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Jesus often met there and would teach,
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but the Christians
gathered together there.
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They also gathered
together house to house.
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Let me ask you this.
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Paul - remember this? Acts 20?
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When he brings the elders
from Ephesus together?
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Remember, he's at Miletus.
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He's on his way to Jerusalem.
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He calls together the Ephesian elders,
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and he says this:
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I have been faithful to you guys.
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And I taught publicly
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and from house to house.
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Let me ask you something.
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See how well you know your Bibles.
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When Paul was in Ephesus,
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where did he teach publicly?
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(unintelligible)
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Now he did that.
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He did that in the synagogues,
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but see, it doesn't really say
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that the churches - the church -
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gathered together in the synagogue.
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But when he was at Ephesus
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and he taught publicly,
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where did he do it?
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One place specifically
that we're told about
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that he did it for two years.
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It kind of sounds like a dinosaur.
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Anybody know? Amy, you know?
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The Hall of one Tyrannus.
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Tyrannus - he basically
gathered the saints together
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and taught in a school.
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So here's my point.
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The early church in the temple
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and house to house.
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When he's at Ephesus publicly -
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at least one of the public places
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was in the school of Tyrannus,
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and then house to house.
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Are we specifically told
that you have to do it publicly
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or that you have to do it house to house?
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Now look, it's true that when
we go through Scripture,
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we have accounts of the church that met -
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can anybody give me examples?
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The church that met in whose house?
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(from the room) Philemon?
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Tim: In Philemon you've got it.
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Somebody look it up in Philemon.
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Philemon 1:2 - Somebody look that up
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and read that.
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"And Apphia our sister
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and Archippus our fellow soldier,
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and the church in your house..."
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Tim: The church in your house.
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You could go to Romans 16.
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You're going to get this idea
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of people meeting in a house.
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Collosians 4:15,
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1 Corinthians 16:9. It's true.
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There were churches that
met in people's houses.
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But let me ask you this question:
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1 Corinthians 14:23.
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Somebody want to read that?
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"Therefore if the whole church assembles,
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and all speak in tongues..."
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Tim: Now just stop right there.
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When the whole church,
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or if the whole church assembles -
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what church?
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Who's he writing to right there?
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1 Corinthians 14 - who's he writing to?
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The church at Corinth.
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Can I ask you this?
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You remember in the book of Acts
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when Paul went to Corinth?
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Jesus Christ Himself spoke to him.
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Do you remember what He said to him?
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"Many people..." He had many people.
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Do you know how many people were saved?
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(incomplete thought)
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You guys can tell me what
you think "many people" is.
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Is this many people?
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This many people can fit in a house.
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I have a feeling the church at Corinth
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was quite a bit bigger
than this many people.
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I think when Jesus told Paul,
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"I have many people in that city,"
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I think He meant a whole
lot more than this.
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And he talks there in 1 Corinthians 14:23
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about the whole church coming together.
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Where would they do that?
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Brethren, there's no commandment
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where they need to do that.
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Where would they do it?
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Well, look historically.
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Where have people done it?
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People have met in barns.
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People have met in homes.
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People have met outside.
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(from the room) Burger restaurants.
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Tim: People have met
in burger restaurants.
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The Covenanters would meet
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out in secluded, hidden areas.
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Brethren, throughout history people
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have met where they can.
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There's nothing in
Scripture that forbids us
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to meet in a building
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or to purchase a building
for the church to meet in.
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That's not prohibited.
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It's not as though there's some holy aura
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about meeting in the homes.
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They met in the temple,
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the lecture hall of Tyrannus.
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There just simply isn't anything
in Scripture that mandates.
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So, listen, that's legalistic
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to demand that we
meet one place or the other.
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To demand it -
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it's just simply not
mandated in Scripture.
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We're free there.
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We're free to meet
where it's conducive to meet.
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Okay, next one...