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I would like to tell you about
the most embarrassing thing
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that has ever happened to me in my years
of working as a palliative care physician.
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This happened a couple of years ago.
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I was asked as a consultant to see
a woman in her 70s --
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retired English professor
who had pancreatic cancer.
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I was asked to see her because
she had pain, nausea, vomiting.
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When I went to see her,
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we talked about those symptoms,
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and in the course of that consultation,
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she asked me whether I thought
that medical marijuana might help her.
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I thought back to everything
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that I had learned in medical school
about medical marijuana,
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which didn't take very long
because I had learned absolutely nothing.
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And so I told her that as far as I knew,
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medical marijuana had
no benefits whatsoever.
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And she smiled and nodded and reached
into the handbag next to the bed,
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and pulled out a stack of about a dozen
randomized controlled trials
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showing that medical
marijuana has benefits
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for symptoms like nausea
and pain and anxiety.
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She handed me those articles and said,
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"Maybe you should read these
before offering an opinion ...
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doctor."
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(Laughter)
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So I did.
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That night I read all of those articles
and found a bunch more.
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When I came to see her the next morning,
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I had to admit that it looks like
there is some evidence
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that marijuana can offer medical benefits,
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and I suggested that if she
really was interested,
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she should try it.
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You know what she said?
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This 73-year-old, retired
English professor?
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She said, "I did try it
about six months ago.
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It was amazing.
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I've been using it every day since.
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It's the best drug I've discovered.
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I don't know why it took me
73 years to discover this stuff.
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It's amazing."
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(Laughter)
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That was the moment at which I realized
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I needed to learn something
about medical marijuana
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because what I was prepared for
in medical school
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bore no relationship to reality.
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So I started reading more articles,
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I started talking to researchers,
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I started talking to doctors,
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and most importantly,
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I started listening to patients.
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I ended up writing a book
based on those conversations,
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and that book really revolved
around three surprises --
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surprises to me, anyway.
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One I already alluded to --
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that there really are some benefits
to medical marijuana.
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Those benefits may not be
as huge or as stunning
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as some of the most avid proponents
of medical marijuana
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would have us believe,
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but they are real.
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Surprise number two:
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medical marijuana does have some risks.
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Those risks may not be
as huge and as scary
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as some of the opponents of medical
marijuana would have us believe,
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but they are real risks, nonetheless.
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But it was the third surprise
that was most ...
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surprising.
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And that is that a lot
of the patients I talked with
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who've turned to medical
marijuana for help,
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weren't turning to medical marijuana
because of its benefits
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or the balance or risks and benefits,
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or because they thought
it was a wonder drug,
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but because it gave them
control over their illness.
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It let them manage their health
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in a way that was productive and efficient
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and effective and comfortable for them.
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To show you what I mean,
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let me tell you about another patient.
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Robin was in her early 40s when I met her.
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She looked though
like she was in her late 60s.
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She had suffered from rheumatoid arthritis
for the last 20 years,
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her hands were gnarled by arthritis,
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her spine was crooked,
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she had to rely
on a wheelchair to get around.
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She looked weak and frail,
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and I guess physically she probably was,
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but emotionally, cognitively,
psychologically,
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she was among the toughest
people I've ever met.
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And when I sat down next to her
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in a medical marijuana dispensery
in Northern California
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to ask her about why she turned
to medical marijuana,
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what it did for her,
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and how it helped her,
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she started out by telling me things
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that I had heard
from many patients before.
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It helped with her anxiety;
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it helped with her pain;
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when her pain was better,
she slept better.
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And I'd heard all that before.
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But then she said something
that I never heard before,
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and that is that it gave her
control over her life
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and over her health.
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She could use it when she wanted,
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in the way that she wanted,
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at the dose and frequency
that worked for her.
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And if it didn't work for her,
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then she could make changes.
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Everything was up to her.
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The most important thing she said
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was she didn't need
anybody else's permission --
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not a clinic appointment,
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not a doctor's prescription,
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not a pharmacist's order.
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It was all up to her.
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She was in control.
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And if that seems like a little thing
for somebody with chronic illness,
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it's not --
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not at all.
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When we face a chronic serious illness,
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whether it's rheumatoid arthritis
or lupus or cancer or diabetes,
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or cirrosis,
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we lose control.
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And note what I said:
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"when," not "if."
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All of us at some point in our lives
will face a chronic serious illness
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that causes us to lose control.
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We'll see our function decline,
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some of us will see our cognition decline,
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we'll be no longer able
to care for ourselves,
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to do the things that we want to do.
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Our bodies will betray us,
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and in that process,
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we'll lose control.
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And that's scary.
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Not just scary --
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that's frightening,
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it's terrifying.
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When I talk to my patients,
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my palliative care patients,
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many of whom are facing illnesses
that will end their lives,
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they have a lot of be frightened of --
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pain, nausea, vomiting,
constipation, fatigue,
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their impending mortality.
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But what scares them more
than anything else
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is this possibility that at some point,
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tomorrow or a month from now,
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they're going to lose
control of their health,
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of their lives,
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of their healthcare,
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and they're going to become
dependent on others,
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and that's terrifying.
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So it's no wonder really
that patients like Robin,
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who I just told you about,
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who I met in that clinic,
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turn to medical marijuana
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to try to claw back some
semblance of control.
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How do they do it though?
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How do these medical
marijuana dispensaries --
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like the one where I met Robin --
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how do they give patients like Robin
back the sort of control that they need?
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And how do they do it
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in a way that mainstream
medical hospitals and clinics,
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at least for Robin,
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weren't able to?
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What's their secret?
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So I decided to find out.
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I went to a seedy clinic
in Venice Beach in California,
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and got a recommendation
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that would allow me to be
a medical marijuana patient.
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I got a letter of recommendation
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that would let me buy medical marijuana.
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I got that recommendation illegally,
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because I'm not
a resident of California --
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you should note that.
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I should also note,
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for the record,
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that I never used that letter
of recommendation to make a purchase,
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and to all of you DEA agents out there --
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(Laughter)
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love the work that you're doing,
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keep it up.
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(Laughter)
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Even though it didn't let me
make a purchase though,
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that letter was priceless
because it let me be a patient.
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It let me experience what patients
like Robin experience
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when they go to a medical
marijuana dispensary.
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And what I experienced --
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what they experience every day,
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hundreds of thousands
of people like Robin --
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was really amazing.
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I walked into the clinic,
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and from the moment that I entered
many of these clinics and dispensaries,
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I felt like that dispensary,
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that clinic,
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was there for me.
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There were questions
at the outset about who I am
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what kind of work I do,
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what my goals are in looking for
a medical marijuana prescription,
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or product,
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what my goals are,
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what my preferences are,
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what my hopes are,
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how do I think, how do I hope
this might help me,
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what am I afraid of.
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These are the sorts of questions
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that patients like Robin
get asked all the time.
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These are the sorts of questions
that make me confident
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that the person I'm talking with
really has my best interests at heart,
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and wants to get to know me.
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The second thing I learned
in those clinics
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is the availability of education.
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Education from the folks
behind the counter,
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but also education from folks
in the waiting room.
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People I met were more than happy,
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as I was sitting next to them --
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people like Robin --
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to tell me about who they are,
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why they use medical marijuana,
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what helps them,
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how it helps them,
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and to give me advice and suggestions.
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Those waiting rooms really are
a hive of interaction, advice and support.
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And third, the folks behind the counter.
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I was amazed at how willing
those people were
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to spend sometimes an hour or more
talking me through the nuances
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of this strain versus that strain,
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smoking versus vaporizing,
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edibles versus tinctures,
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all, remember, without me making
any purchase whatsoever.
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Think about the last time
you went to any hospital or clinic
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and the last time anybody spent an hour
explaining those sorts of things to you.
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The fact that patients like Robin
are going to these clinics,
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are going to these dispensaries,
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and getting that sort
of personalized attention
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and education and service,
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really should be a wake-up call
to the healthcare system.
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People like Robin are turning away
from mainstream medicine,
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turning to medical
marijuana dispensaries
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because those dispensaries
are giving them what they need.
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If that's a wake-up call
to the medical establishment,
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it's a wake-up call that many
of my colleagues are either not hearing
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or not wanting to hear.
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When I talk to my colleagues,
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physicians in particular,
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about medical marijuana,
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they say, "Oh, we need more evidence.
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We need more research into benefits,
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we need more evidence about risks."
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And you know what?
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They're right.
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They're absolutely right.
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We do need much more evidence
about the benefits of medical marijuana.
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We also need to ask the federal government
to reschedule marijuana to Schedule II,
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or to deschedule it entirely
to make that research possible.
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We also need more research
into medical marijuana's risks.
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Medical marijuana's risks --
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we know a lot about the risks
of recreational use,
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we know next to nothing about
the risks of medical marijuana.
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So we absolutely do need research,
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but to say that we need research
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and not that we need
to make any changes now
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is to miss the point entirely.
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People like Robin aren't
seeking out medical marijuana
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because they think it's a wonder drug,
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or because they think
it's entirely risk-free.
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They seek it out because the context
in which it's delivered and administered
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and used,
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gives them the sort of control
they need over their lives.
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And that's a wake-up call
we really need to pay attention to.
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The good news though is that
there are lessons we can learn today
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from those medical marijuana dispensaries.
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And those are lessons
we really should learn.
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These are often small,
mom-and-pop operations
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run by people with no medical training,
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and while it's embarrassing to think
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that many of these clinics
and dispensaries are providing services
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and support and meeting patients' needs
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in ways that billion-dollar
healthcare systems aren't --
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we should be embarrassed by that --
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but we can also learn from that.
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And they're probably
three lessons at least
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that we can learn
from those small dispensaries.
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One: we need to find way
to give patients more control
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in small but important ways,
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how to interacting
with healthcare providers,
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when to interact
with healthcare providers,
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how to use medications in ways
that work for them.
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In my own practice,
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I've gotten much more
creative and flexible
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in supporting my patients
in using drugs safely
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to manage their symptoms --
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with emphasis on safely.
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Many of the drugs that I prescribe
are drugs like opioids or benzodiazepines
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which can be dangerous if overused.
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But here's the point.
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They can be dangerous if they're overused,
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but they can also be ineffective
if they're not used in a way
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that's consistent with what
patients want and need.
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So that flexibility,
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if it's delivered safely,
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can be extraordinarily valuable
for patients and their families.
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That's number one.
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Number two: education --
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huge opportunities to learn from
some of the tricks
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of those medical marijuana dispensaries
to provide more education
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that doesn't require
a lot of physician time necessarily,
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or any physician time,
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but opportunities to learn about
what medications we're using
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and why,
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prognosis, trajectories of illness,
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and most impotantly,
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opportunities for patients
to learn from each other.
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How can we replicate what does on
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in those clinic and medical dispensary
clinic waiting rooms?
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How patients learn from each other,
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how people share with each other.
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And last but not least,
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putting patients first the way
those medical marijuana dispensaries do,
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making patients feel legitimately
like what they want,
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what they need,
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is why as healthcare providers,
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we're here.
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Asking patients about their hopes,
their fears, their goals and preferences.
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As a palliative care provider,
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I ask all my patients what they're
hoping for and what they're afraid of.
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But here's the thing.
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Patients shouldn't have to wait
until they're chronically seriously ill,
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often near the end of life,
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they shouldn't have to wait until
their seeing a physician like me
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before somebody asks them,
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"What are you hoping for?"
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"What are you afraid of?"
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That should be baked into the way
that healthcare is delivered.
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We can do this --
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we really can.
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Medical marijuana dispensaries
and clinics all across the country
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are figuring this out.
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They're figuring this out in ways
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that larger, more mainstream
health systems are years behind.
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But we can learn from them,
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and we have to learn from them.
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All we have to do is swallow our pride,
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put aside the thought for minute
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that because we have lots of letters
after our names,
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because we're experts,
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because we're chief medical officers
of a large healthcare system,
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we know all there is to know about
how to meet patients' needs.
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We need to swallow our pride.
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We need to go visit a few medical
marijuana dispensaries.
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We need to figure out what they're doing.
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We need to figure out why so many
patients like Robin
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are leaving our mainstream medical clinics
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and going to these medical
marijuana dispensaries instead.
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We need to figure out
what their tricks are,
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what their tools are,
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and we need to learn from them.
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If we do,
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and I think we can,
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and I absolutely think we have to,
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we can guarantee all of our patients
will have a much better experience.
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Thank you.
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