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Everyone around you has a story the world needs to hear

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    Tonight, I'm going to try to make the case
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    that inviting a loved one, a friend
    or even a stranger
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    to record a meaningful interview with you
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    just might turn out to be one of the most
    important moments in that person's life,
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    and in yours.
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    When I was 22 years old,
    I was lucky enough to find my calling
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    when I fell into making radio stories.
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    At almost the exact same time,
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    I found out that my dad,
    who I was very, very close to, was gay.
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    I was taken completely by surprise.
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    We were a very tight-knit family,
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    and I was crushed.
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    At some point, in one
    of our strained conversations,
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    my dad mentioned the Stonewall riots.
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    He told me that one night in 1969,
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    a group of young black
    and Latino drag queens
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    fought back against the police
    at a gay bar in Manhattan
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    called the Stonewall Inn,
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    and how this sparked
    the modern gay rights movement.
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    It was an amazing story,
    and it piqued my interest.
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    So I decided to pick up my tape
    recorder and find out more.
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    With the help of a young archivist
    named Michael Shirker,
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    we tracked down all
    of the people we could find
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    who had been at
    the Stonewall Inn that night.
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    Recording these interviews,
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    I saw how the microphone
    gave me the license
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    to go places I otherwise
    never would have gone
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    and talk to people I might not
    otherwise ever have spoken to.
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    I had the privilege of getting to know
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    some of the most amazing,
    fierce and courageous human beings
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    I had ever met.
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    It was the first time
    the story of Stonewall
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    had been told to a national audience.
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    I dedicated the program to my dad,
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    it changed my relationship with him,
    and it changed my life.
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    Over the next 15 years,
    I made many more radio documentaries,
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    working to shine a light on people
    who are rarely heard from in the media.
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    Over and over again,
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    I'd see how this simple act
    of being interviewed
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    could mean so much to people,
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    particularly those who had been told
    that their stories didn't matter.
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    I could literally see
    people's back straighten
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    as they started to speak
    into the microphone.
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    In 1998, I made a documentary
    about the last flophouse hotels
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    on the Bowery in Manhattan.
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    Guys stayed up in these
    cheap hotels for decades.
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    They lived in cubicles
    the size of prison cells
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    covered with chicken wire
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    so you couldn't jump
    from one room into the next.
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    Later, I wrote a book on the men
    with the photographer Harvey Wang.
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    I remember walking into a flophouse
    with an early version of the book
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    and showing one of the guys his page.
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    He stood there staring at it in silence,
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    then he grabbed the book out of my hand
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    and started running down
    the long, narrow hallway
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    holding it over his head
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    shouting, "I exist! I exist."
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    (Applause)
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    In many ways, "I exist" became
    the clarion call for StoryCorps,
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    this crazy idea that I had
    a dozen years ago.
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    The thought was to take
    documentary work
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    and turn it on its head.
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    Traditionally, broadcast documentary
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    has been about recording interviews
    to create a work of art or entertainment
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    or education that is seen or heard
    by a whole lot of people,
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    but I wanted to try something
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    where the interview itself
    was the purpose of this work,
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    and see if we could give many,
    many, many people the chance
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    to be listened to in this way.
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    So in Grand Central Terminal 11 years ago,
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    we built a booth where anyone
    can come to honor someone else
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    by interviewing them about their life.
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    You come to this booth and you're met
    by a facilitator who brings you inside.
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    You sit across from, say, your grandfather
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    for close to an hour
    and you listen and you talk.
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    Many people think of it as,
    if this was to be our last conversation,
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    what would I want to ask of
    and say to this person
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    who means so much to me?
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    At the end of the session,
    you walk away with a copy of the interview
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    and another copy goes
    to the American Folklife Center
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    at the Library of Congress
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    so that your great-great-great-grandkids
    can someday get to know your grandfather
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    through his voice and story.
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    So we open this booth
    in one of the busiest places in the world
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    and invite people to have this
    incredibly intimate conversation
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    with another human being.
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    I had no idea if it would work,
    but from the very beginning, it did.
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    People treated the experience
    with incredible respect,
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    and amazing conversations happened inside.
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    I want to play just one animated excerpt
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    from an interview recorded
    at that original Grand Central Booth.
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    This is 12-year-old Joshua Littman
    interviewing his mother, Sarah.
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    Josh has Asperger's syndrome.
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    As you may know, kids with Asperger's
    are incredibly smart
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    but have a tough time socially.
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    They usually have obsessions.
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    In Josh's case, it's with animals,
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    so this is Josh talking with his mom Sarah
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    at Grand Central nine years ago.
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    (Video) Josh Littman:
    From a scale of one to 10,
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    do you think your life would be
    different without animals?
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    Sarah Littman: I think it would be
    an eight without animals,
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    because they add so much pleasure to life.
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    JL: How else do you think your life
    would be different without them?
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    SL: I could do without things
    like cockroaches and snakes.
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    JL: Well, I'm okay with snakes
    as long as they're not venomous
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    or constrict you or anything.
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    SL: Yeah, I'm not a big snake person --
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    JL: But cockroach is just
    the insect we love to hate.
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    SL: Yeah, it really is.
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    JL: Have you ever thought
    you couldn't cope with having a child?
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    SL: I remember when you were a baby,
    you had really bad colic,
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    so you would just cry and cry.
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    JL: What's colic?
    SL: It's when you get this stomach ache
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    and all you do is scream
    for, like, four hours.
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    JL: Even louder than Amy does?
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    SL: You were pretty loud,
    but Amy's was more high-pitched.
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    JL: I think it feels like everyone
    seems to like Amy more,
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    like she's the perfect little angel.
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    SL: Well, I can understand
    why you think that people like Amy more,
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    and I'm not saying it's because
    of your Asperger's syndrome,
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    but being friendly comes easily to Amy,
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    whereas I think for you
    it's more difficult,
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    but the people who take the time
    to get to know you love you so much.
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    JL: Like Ben or Eric or Carlos?
    SL: Yeah --
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    JL: Like I have better quality friends
    but less quantity? (Laughter)
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    SL: I wouldn't judge
    the quality, but I think --
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    JL: I mean, first it was like, Amy
    loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia,
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    she loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia.
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    SL: Part of that's a girl thing, honey.
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    The important thing for you
    is that you have a few very good friends,
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    and really that's what you need in life.
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    JL: Did I turn out to be the son
    you wanted when I was born?
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    Did I meet your expectations?
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    SL: You've exceeded
    my expectations, sweetie,
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    because, sure, you have these fantasies
    of what your child's going to be like,
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    but you have made me grow
    so much as a parent, because you think --
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    JL: Well, I was the one
    who made you a parent.
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    SL: You were the one who made me a parent.
    That's a good point. (Laughter)
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    But also because you think differently
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    from what they tell you
    in the parenting books,
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    I really had to learn to think
    outside of the box with you,
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    and it's made me much more creative
    as a parent and as a person,
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    and I'll always thank you for that.
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    JL: And that helped when Amy was born?
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    SL: And that helped when Amy was born,
    but you are so incredibly special to me
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    and I'm so lucky to have you as my son.
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    (Applause)
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    David Isay: After this story
    ran on public radio,
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    Josh received hundreds of letters
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    telling him what an amazing kid he was.
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    His mom, Sarah, bound them
    together in a book,
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    and when Josh got picked on at school,
    they would read the letters together.
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    I just want to acknowledge
    that two of my heroes
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    are here with us tonight.
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    Sarah Littman and her son Josh,
    who is now an honors student in college.
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    (Applause)
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    You know, a lot of people talk about
    crying when they hear StoryCorps stories,
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    and it's not because they're sad.
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    Most of them aren't.
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    I think it's because you're hearing
    something authentic and pure
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    at this moment,
    when sometimes it's hard to tell
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    what's real and what's an advertisement.
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    It's kind of the anti-reality TV.
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    Nobody comes to StoryCorps to get rich.
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    Nobody comes to get famous.
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    It's simply an act of generosity and love.
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    So many of these are just everyday people
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    talking about lives lived with kindness,
    courage, decency and dignity,
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    and when you hear that kind of story,
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    it can sometimes feel
    like you're walking on holy ground.
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    So this experiment
    in Grand Central worked,
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    and we expanded across the country.
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    Today, more than 100,000 people
    in all 50 states
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    in thousands of cities
    and towns across America
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    have recorded StoryCorps interviews.
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    It's now the largest single collection
    of human voices ever gathered.
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    (Applause)
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    We've hired and trained
    hundreds of facilitators
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    to help guide people
    through the experience.
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    Most serve a year or two with StoryCorps
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    traveling the country,
    gathering the wisdom of humanity.
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    They call it bearing witness,
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    and if you ask them,
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    all of the facilitators will tell you
    that the most important thing
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    they've learned from being present
    during these interviews
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    is that people are basically good.
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    And I think for the first years
    of StoryCorps, you could argue
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    that there was some kind
    of a selection bias happening,
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    but after tens of thousands of interviews
    with every kind of person
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    in every part of the country --
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    rich, poor, five years old to 105,
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    80 different languages,
    across the political spectrum --
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    you have to think that maybe these guys
    are actually onto something.
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    I've also learned so much
    from these interviews.
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    I've learned about the poetry
    and the wisdom and the grace
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    that can be found in the words
    of people all around us
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    when we simply take the time to listen,
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    like this interview
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    between a betting clerk in Brooklyn
    named Danny Perasa
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    who brought his wife Annie to StoryCorps
    to talk about his love for her.
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    (Audio) Danny Perasa: You see,
    the thing of it is,
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    I always feel guilty when I say
    "I love you" to you.
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    And I say it so often.
    I say it to remind you
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    that as dumpy as I am,
    it's coming from me.
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    It's like hearing a beautiful song
    from a busted old radio,
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    and it's nice of you to keep
    the radio around the house.
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    Annie Perasa: If I don't have a note
    on the kitchen table,
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    I think there's something wrong.
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    You write a love letter
    to me every morning.
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    DP: Well, the only thing
    that could possibly be wrong
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    is I couldn't find a silly pen.
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    AP: To my princess:
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    The weather outside today
    is extremely rainy.
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    I'll call you at 11:20 in the morning.
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    DP: It's a romantic weather report.
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    AP: And I love you.
    I love you. I love you.
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    DP: When a guy is happily married,
    no matter what happens at work,
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    no matter what happens
    in the rest of the day,
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    there's a shelter when you get home,
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    there's a knowledge knowing
    that you can hug somebody
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    without them throwing you downstairs
    and saying, "Get your hands off me."
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    Being married is like having
    a color television set.
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    You never want to go back
    to black and white.
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    (Laughter)
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    DI: Danny was about five feet tall
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    with crossed eyes
    and one single snaggletooth,
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    but Danny Perasa had
    more romance in his little pinky
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    than all of Hollywood's
    leading men put together.
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    What else have I learned?
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    I've learned about the almost
    unimaginable capacity
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    for the human spirit to forgive.
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    I've learned about resilience
    and I've learned about strength.
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    Like an interview with Oshea Israel
    and Mary Johnson.
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    When Oshea was a teenager,
    he murdered Mary's only son,
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    Laramiun Byrd, in a gang fight.
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    A dozen years later, Mary went to prison
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    to meet Oshea and find out
    who this person was
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    who had taken her son's life.
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    Slowly and remarkably,
    they became friends,
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    and when he was finally released
    from the penitentiary,
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    Oshea actually moved in next door to Mary.
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    This is just a short excerpt
    of a conversation they had
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    soon after Oshea was freed.
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    (Video) Mary Johnson: My natural son
    is no longer here.
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    I didn't see him graduate,
    and now you're going to college.
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    I'll have the opportunity
    to see you graduate.
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    I didn't see him get married.
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    Hopefully one day, I'll be able
    to experience that with you.
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    Oshea Israel: Just to hear you
    say those things and to be
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    in my life in the manner
    in which you are is my motivation.
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    It motivates me to make sure
    that I stay on the right path.
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    You still believe in me,
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    and the fact that you can do it
    despite how much pain I caused you,
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    it's amazing.
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    MJ: I know it's not an easy thing
    to be able to share our story together,
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    even with us sitting here
    looking at each other right now.
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    I know it's not an easy thing,
    so I admire that you can do this.
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    OI: I love you, lady.
    MJ: I love you too, son.
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    (Applause)
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    DI: And I've been reminded countless times
    of the courage and goodness of people,
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    and how the arc of history
    truly does bend towards justice.
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    Like the story of Alexis Martinez,
    who was born Arthur Martinez
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    in the Harold Ickes projects in Chicago.
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    In the interview, she talks
    with her daughter Lesley
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    about joining a gang as a young man,
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    and later in life transitioning
    into the woman she was always meant to be.
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    This is Alexis and her daughter Lesley.
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    (Audio) Alexis Martinez: One of the most
    difficult things for me was
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    I was always afraid that
    I wouldn't be allowed
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    to be in my granddaughters' lives,
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    and you blew that completely
    out of the water,
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    you and your husband.
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    One of the fruits of that is,
    in my relationship with my granddaughters,
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    they fight with each other sometimes
    over whether I'm he or she.
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    Lesley Martinez: But they're free
    to talk about it.
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    AM: They're free to talk about it,
    but that, to me, is a miracle.
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    LM: You don't have to apologize.
    You don't have to tiptoe.
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    We're not going to cut you off,
    and that's something I've always
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    wanted you to just know,
    that you're loved.
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    AM: You know, I live this every day now.
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    I walk down the streets as a woman,
    and I really am at peace with who I am.
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    I mean, I wish I had a softer voice maybe,
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    but now I walk in love
    and I try to live that way every day.
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    DI: Now I walk in love.
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    I'm going to tell you
    a secret about StoryCorps.
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    It takes some courage
    to have these conversations.
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    StoryCorps speaks to our mortality.
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    Participants know this recording
    will be heard long after they're gone.
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    There's a hospice doctor named Ira Byock
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    who has worked closely with us
    on recording interviews
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    with people who are dying.
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    He wrote a book called
    "The Four Things That Matter Most"
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    about the four things you want to say
    to the most important people in your life
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    before they or you die:
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    thank you, I love you,
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    forgive me, I forgive you.
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    They're just about the most powerful words
    we can say to one another,
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    and often that's what happens
    in a StoryCorps booth.
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    It's a chance to have a sense of closure
    with someone you care about --
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    no regrets, nothing left unsaid.
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    And it's hard and it takes courage,
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    but that's why we're alive, right?
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    So, the TED Prize.
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    When I first heard from TED
    and Chris a few months ago
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    about the possibility of the Prize,
    I was completely floored.
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    They asked me to come up
    with a very brief wish for humanity,
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    no more than 50 words.
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    So I thought about it,
    I wrote my 50 words,
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    and a few weeks later,
    Chris called and said, "Go for it."
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    So here is my wish:
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    that you will help us
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    take everything we've learned
    through StoryCorps
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    and bring it to the world
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    so that anyone anywhere
    can easily record a meaningful interview
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    with another human being
    which will then be archived for history.
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    How are we going to do that? With this.
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    We're fast moving into a future
    where everyone in the world
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    will have access to one of these,
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    and it has powers I never
    could have imagined 11 years ago
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    when I started StoryCorps.
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    It has a microphone,
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    it can tell you how to do things,
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    and it can send audio files.
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    Those are the key ingredients.
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    So the first part of the wish
    is already underway.
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    Over the past couple of months,
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    the team at StoryCorps
    has been working furiously
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    to create an app that will bring
    StoryCorps out of our booths
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    so that it can be experienced
    by anyone, anywhere, anytime.
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    Remember, StoryCorps has always
    been two people and a facilitator
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    helping them record their conversation,
    which is preserved forever,
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    but at this very moment,
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    we're releasing a public beta version
    of the StoryCorps app.
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    The app is a digital facilitator
    that walks you through
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    the StoryCorps interview process,
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    helps you pick questions,
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    and gives you all the tips you need
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    to record a meaningful
    StoryCorps interview,
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    and then with one tap upload it
    to our archive at the Library of Congress.
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    That's the easy part, the technology.
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    The real challenge is up to you:
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    to take this tool and figure out
    how we can use it
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    all across America and around the world,
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    so that instead of recording
    thousands of StoryCorps interviews a year,
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    we could potentially record
    tens of thousands
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    or hundreds of thousands
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    or maybe even more.
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    Imagine, for example,
    a national homework assignment
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    where every high school student
    studying U.S. history across the country
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    records an interview
    with an elder over Thanksgiving,
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    so that in one single weekend
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    an entire generation of American lives
    and experiences are captured.
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    (Applause)
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    Or imagine mothers on opposite
    sides of a conflict somewhere in the world
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    sitting down not to talk
    about that conflict
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    but to find out who they are as people,
  • 18:25 - 18:29
    and in doing so,
    begin to build bonds of trust;
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    or that someday it becomes
    a tradition all over the world
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    that people are honored
    with a StoryCorps interview
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    on their 75th birthday;
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    or that people in your community
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    go into retirement homes or hospitals
    or homeless shelters or even prisons
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    armed with this app to honor the people
    least heard in our society
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    and ask them who they are,
    what they've learned in life,
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    and how they want to be remembered.
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    (Applause)
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    Ten years ago, I recorded
    a StoryCorps interview with my dad
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    who was a psychiatrist,
    and became a well-known gay activist.
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    This is the picture
    of us at that interview.
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    I never thought about that recording
    until a couple of years ago,
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    when my dad, who seemed
    to be in perfect health
  • 19:19 - 19:21
    and was still seeing patients
    40 hours a week,
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    was diagnosed with cancer.
  • 19:24 - 19:27
    He passed away very suddenly
    a few days later.
  • 19:27 - 19:30
    It was June 28, 2012,
  • 19:30 - 19:34
    the anniversary of the Stonewall riots.
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    I listened to that interview
    for the first time at three in the morning
  • 19:37 - 19:39
    on the day that he died.
  • 19:39 - 19:41
    I have a couple of young kids at home,
  • 19:41 - 19:45
    and I knew that the only way
    they were going to get to know this person
  • 19:45 - 19:49
    who was such a towering figure in my life
    would be through that session.
  • 19:49 - 19:53
    I thought I couldn't believe in StoryCorps
    any more deeply than I did,
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    but it was at that moment
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    that I fully and viscerally grasped
    the importance of making these recordings.
  • 20:00 - 20:02
    Every day, people come up to me
  • 20:02 - 20:06
    and say, "I wish I had interviewed
    my father or my grandmother or my brother,
  • 20:06 - 20:08
    but I waited too long."
  • 20:08 - 20:10
    Now, no one has to wait anymore.
  • 20:10 - 20:12
    At this moment,
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    when so much of how we communicate
    is fleeting and inconsequential,
  • 20:16 - 20:18
    join us in creating this digital archive
  • 20:18 - 20:23
    of conversations that are
    enduring and important.
  • 20:23 - 20:25
    Help us create this gift to our children,
  • 20:25 - 20:29
    this testament to who
    we are as human beings.
  • 20:29 - 20:33
    I hope you'll help us make
    this wish come true.
  • 20:33 - 20:38
    Interview a family member, a friend
    or even a stranger.
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    Together, we can create an archive
    of the wisdom of humanity,
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    and maybe in doing so,
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    we'll learn to listen a little more
    and shout a little less.
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    Maybe these conversations will remind us
    what's really important.
  • 20:54 - 20:57
    And maybe, just maybe,
  • 20:57 - 21:00
    it will help us recognize
    that simple truth
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    that every life, every single life,
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    matters equally and infinitely.
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    Thank you very much.
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    (Applause)
  • 21:11 - 21:15
    Thank you. Thank you.
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    (Applause)
  • 21:17 - 21:20
    Thank you.
  • 21:20 - 21:25
    (Applause)
Title:
Everyone around you has a story the world needs to hear
Speaker:
Dave Isay
Description:

Dave Isay opened the first StoryCorps booth in New York’s Grand Central Terminal in 2003 with the intention of creating a quiet place where a person could honor someone who mattered to them by listening to their story. Since then, StoryCorps has evolved into the single largest collection of human voices ever recorded. His TED Prize wish: to grow this digital archive of the collective wisdom of humanity. Hear his vision to take StoryCorps global — and how you can be a part of it by interviewing someone with the StoryCorps app.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
21:38

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