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Transcultural Devon: Interview with Hector

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    Hi Hector! I'm Emma and
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    I'm a Modern languages student
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    at the University of Exeter.
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    Firstly,
    thank you so much for coming today
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    and for taking part in this interview
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    for Transcultural Devon.
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    I'm very interested
    to hear about your experiences
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    and your life,
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    and...
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    I hope you enjoy this opportunity!
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    And...
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    if it is okay,
    I am going to ask you a few questions
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    about your experience of moving here,
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    to the UK.
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    So,
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    I am going to ask questions in three parts
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    firstly, your motivation for migration,
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    your hopes and realities,
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    your identity, and finally your advice.
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    Okay, please could you introduce yourself
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    and tell me a little about yourself?
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    Okay, very well,
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    I'm Hector,
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    and...
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    I've been here in England
    for six and a half years already
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    [I came with
    my ex-partner and her daughter]
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    and...
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    the truth being,
    we wanted a change from Spain
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    because the employment situation
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    isn't too good at the moment,
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    and we also decided to make a change
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    so the daughter could learn English here,
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    in an English school.
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    Yes.
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    [Originally we were moving for one year]
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    but in the end,
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    I mean look,
    I have been here for six years already,
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    so what was meant to be for a short period
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    in the end was for a lot longer.
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    Okay, thank you
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    and...
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    could you tell me a little about your job
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    here in England?
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    Is it the same as in Spain or different?
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    Well, I am a vet and...
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    in Spain I worked with small animals.
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    I worked in a type of
    animal protection, with dogs and cats
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    and I found the first job that I had
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    before...I arrived here.
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    I had an interview,
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    and I started as soon as I was in England.
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    [It was a little different
    because I was working...]
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    in the area of animal health, in abattoirs
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    completing post-mortem inspections,
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    I had this job for two years
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    [and after this I then changed jobs]
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    and started to do TB testing on the farms
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    in Devon and Cornwall,
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    Yes.
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    [and a year and a half ago,]
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    I changed jobs again, and started working
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    for the Ministry, for the Government.
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    Okay!
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    [But I will always be a vet!]
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    Okay, thank you, and
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    why did you decide to move here, to Devon?
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    And to England?
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    Well, to be honest we didn't know exactly
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    where we were going to go
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    but I had a friend who was working
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    in the first company that I worked for.
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    He told me that
    they needed more people, and more vets
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    so I sent my CV and had an interview
    [Yes.]
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    and in the end
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    we decided to accept the offer
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    that was for here in England but,
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    we didn't know where exactly it would be
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    so, they gave me a position that was here
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    close to Exeter,
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    and we started to look for schools
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    and colleges around the area
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    and we saw that Exeter suited us the best,
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    and therefore we decided to come here.
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    I see,
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    and now do you live in Exeter city centre?
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    Yes, I live in Exeter, close to Polsloe
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    very close to the centre,
    about 20 minutes away.
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    [Okay]
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    When I first moved here,
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    I lived in Leeds for a few weeks
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    then I lived in Hertfordshire for a week,
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    Yes.
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    [but since then, just in Exeter.]
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    And do you like living in Exeter?
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    I do like Exeter, but...
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    I miss the Spanish weather a little
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    because I am from the south of Spain
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    so I miss the sun a lot.
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    Yes.
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    [Other than my family and friends]
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    but above all,
    what I miss the most is the weather.
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    The winters here aren't necessarily cold
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    [but...]
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    it is always raining
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    and the truth is,
    I need the sun, a lot of it!
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    [laughter] Yes!
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    [so it is what I miss the most!]
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    Okay, so you mentioned the weather,
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    but what was the hardest thing
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    to leave behind in Spain?
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    Well apart from the weather,
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    my group of friends and family
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    because my family,
    are all in the south of Spain,
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    other than my sister, she is in Italy.
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    Okay
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    [But also making a complete change,]
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    and having to form new friendships here,
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    but in the end this is
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    something that happens naturally.
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    It's something that, well..
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    with living in a new place
    and simply being in a new city
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    in the end,
    you are going to meet new people,
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    a new group of friends,
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    you are going to do group activities
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    like playing football,
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    allowing you to meet a lot of people.
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    But,
    what I found most difficult at the start
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    was the complete change,
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    leaving behind my friends and family,
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    and just starting a new life,
    [Yes.]
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    in a new culture, a new house,
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    new customs,
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    you have a lot to do,
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    like bills, housing, schools,
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    the language, and all that. Well...
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    it's like...
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    a purpose,
    but it is also something that
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    you work towards, you know?
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    It's like...
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    a reason,
    for moving from one place to another
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    it's like a goal.
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    Yes.
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    I can imagine it is very difficult.
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    And, when you moved to Devon,
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    was it the first time
    you had been to the UK?
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    Well, I'd been here before
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    but... only visiting.
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    I have been to Scotland,
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    visiting some friends,
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    I have also been to Bristol
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    Yes.
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    [but only for a holiday,]
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    for a few weeks, or couple of days.
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    Okay, and you mentioned that...
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    you miss your group of friends in Spain
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    therefore, is there a Spanish community
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    here in Devon?
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    Is there a big community or not really?
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    Here, well definitely in Exeter,
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    I believe there are loads of Spaniards,
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    for example,
    we have created a WhatsApp groupchat
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    so we can play football
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    and I think there are about 50 or 60
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    not only Spaniards,
    but lots of different nationalities
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    [80% are Spanish people]
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    but there is a lot of people,
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    English, Italian, South American
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    from Paraguay, Peru, Chile.
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    But there is...
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    I believe, many Spaniards living here
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    in Exeter and in Devon.
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    People that, for one reason or another,
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    have also decided to make a change
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    from Spain to here.
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    And I believe always, well almost always
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    the main reason why people move here
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    is for work.
    [Yes.]
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    The situation is really bad in Spain
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    they don't give you much help
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    or...
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    many economic benefits
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    or opportunities like they have here.
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    Therefore,
    many people decide to make a change
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    after many years of trying to find
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    a job relating to their degree
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    but not every
    degree gives the same opportunities.
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    So they decide
    to have a fresh start elsewhere
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    and the main place people go to
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    for the language,
    and the proximity to Spain
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    is here, to England.
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    Yes, that's true.
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    And... what...
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    would you say helped you to adapt
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    to a new society in England?
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    Is there something in particular?
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    Well, at the start,
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    the family I had helped me a lot
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    my ex-partner, and her daughter.
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    Yes.
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    [They helped to motivate me.]
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    We had to adapt,
    and just get to know the area really,
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    because none of us knew the language,
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    So, being together,
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    I believe helped us a lot
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    and in the end,
    we were meeting people quite quickly
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    so we found a good group of people.
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    I think that above all, when you
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    go somewhere that isn't your country
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    the most important thing is,
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    to find a group of people
    that you can identify with
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    and you feel comfortable with.
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    Yes.
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    [If you are with people]
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    it doesn't matter if you are in England,
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    in the US, Ireland, or wherever.
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    It could be one
    of the worst places in the world to live
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    but if you find people,
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    to relate to, to share experiences with,
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    to have a few beers with, to do sport with
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    it's fundamental.
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    If you don't find
    people you feel comfortable with
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    I think it is very difficult to endure.
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    At least for me,
    due to the person I am, I-
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    am an extrovert
    who likes to meet people
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    if I don't find people in a new place,
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    I don't think I would
    stick it out more than a few months.
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    So for me, the most important thing
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    is the people you are going to meet.
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    Yes, I agree. And...
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    would you say that you experienced
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    culture shock, when you arrived in the UK?
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    Because the culture is quite different?
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    Yes, I noticed it quite a bit because...
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    the way of life is quite different.
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    I suppose it's influenced by the weather,
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    but over in Spain,
    we are used to doing everything outside
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    always in the street, always outside.
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    But here it's more difficult.
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    There is more of a pub culture here,
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    people do socialise as well,
    but for me the culture is quite different.
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    It's not that...
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    it's a huge difference
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    that perhaps it would be
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    if you went to Asia,
    as the culture is so different,
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    [Yes.]
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    because we are still Europeans.
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    But... every country
    I believe has a different culture,
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    different habits,
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    and at the start it was a little shocking
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    but little by little,
    you adapt to where you are living.
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    Although you will keep your traditions,
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    for example
    I keep some of my Spanish habits.
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    But in the end, you are going to adapt
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    and mark your country as here.
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    Yes, and...
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    is there something that
    surprised you about living in the UK?
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    or the British public?
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    Well...
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    I suppose at the start when I arrived
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    there were more things that surprised me.
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    Now, after a lot of time
    I believe I have accepted everything
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    there is nothing that...
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    well,
    I always compare things from here to Spain
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    to see if we do things similarly
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    or we do things differently,
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    but, I don't see it as surprises.
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    I can notice the differences,
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    but it isn't
    something that really shocked me
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    like it would in another place.
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    Okay, and...
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    what have you found the most challenging,
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    and the easiest about living here?
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    Well...
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    for me, what I find most hard
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    like I mentioned earlier, is the weather
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    the rain,
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    and not being able to enjoy the sun
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    or the beach as much as I would like.
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    At the beginning,
    I also found the language hard
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    especially, I remember when I spoke
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    on the telephone,
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    I understood almost nothing when I had to
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    sort out the electricity bill,
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    or the water bill, or rent.
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    I found it so hard to understand
    people talking on the telephone
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    Yes.
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    [And now,
    well I got used to it because...]
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    part of my work is to stay in contact
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    with farmers on the phone,
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    I have to call them,
    and have to approve moves, or licences.
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    [So I have to spend a lot of
    time talking to them on the phone]
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    so in the end,
    you start to understand more and more.
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    But at the start,
    I found it really difficult.
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    Yes, you talk about speaking on the phone,
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    and as we have already spoken in English,
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    I know that your English is now fantastic,
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    [laughter]
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    so how did you learn it?
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    And how much did you know before moving?
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    Well...
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    actually, I studied it in highschool
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    in Spain, for two or three years
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    but, it's English that you learn in...
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    well at least,
    talking in relation to my country, Spain,
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    the English that you learn,
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    for me is very basic.
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    You learn vocabulary, grammar
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    you learn verbs, a lot of things
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    but I believe,
    until you move to the country
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    in which the language is spoken,
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    [you won't learn the language]
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    because you can know a lot of vocabulary
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    but when you are in a conversation
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    with an English person
    [Yes.]
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    at the start this happened to me,
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    you don't realise
    how little English you actually know.
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    Because you can
    come here having studied something
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    but until you are in a conversation with
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    someone here, from England
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    Yes.
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    [you don't really realise how low]
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    in my case anyway,
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    the level of language that you have is.
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    Therefore until you
    move to a country that speaks it,
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    you won't fully know or understand it.
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    Yes, I experienced the same
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    when I was in Spain, it's very difficult.
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    And do you believe this level of English
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    helped you to assimilate into the UK?
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    Having learn't English? Yes.
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    Yes.
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    [For me it has been fundamental,]
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    knowing how to defend myself completely
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    in almost all situations.
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    I believe that if you don't
    stand up for yourself in the language
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    well clearly you can
    survive with no problems
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    I know a lot of people...
    well I mean I don't speak it very well
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    but there are
    people that speak it better, or worse
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    [Yes.]
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    and they are still here.
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    However,
    knowing the language where you are
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    is fundamental,
    because you need it in your daily life.
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    So you need to learn it in some form,
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    whether it be a high or basic level
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    but you need
    to know how to stand up for yourself
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    in any situation
    or for anything you might need.
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    You need to practice the language for
    all the challenges you may come across.
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    Yes, very true,
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    and have you ever felt 'out of place'
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    or different as an immigrant and
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    have you experienced any discrimination?
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    No. No I haven't.
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    Well...
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    I have never experienced discrimination,
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    perhaps maybe one time,
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    but I'm not sure if I consider it.
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    In parties there have been a few comments
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    telling me to speak in their language
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    or something like that,
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    but they are very specific cases.
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    The truth is that I haven't felt
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    a very racist feeling here, in England.
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    You can see it happening, in other places
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    but it's not something that is mentioned
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    as something that happens here very often.
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    Okay
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    [It can happen,
    it happens in Spain, Italy and elsewhere]
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    this discriminatory sentiment can occur,
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    but it's not
    a norm that I have noticed here.
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    Okay, that's good.
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    And do you think that Brexit will affect
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    your life here a lot?
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    Well...being honest
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    I don't know how Brexit will affect it
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    I think due to the job I have,
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    it won't affect me currently,
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    but, I believe the people that decide to,
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    in the future, in a few months,
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    perhaps move to England to work,
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    I believe it's going to be more difficult.
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    It is going to be more complicated
    when it comes to starting a new job here
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    but...
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    as I arrived here more than six years ago
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    and I have already got a settled status,
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    I don't think
    Brexit will affect me too much
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    when it comes to my world of work.
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    Okay, that is good. And...
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    [I hope!]
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    Yes! [laughter]
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    [and...]
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    Do you think in general
    the UK is a welcoming place?
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    Yes, yes. Um yes...
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    I think that...
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    I speak on my behalf,
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    and the behalf of
    a lot of people who come from abroad,
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    the UK has given me
    the facilities to get involved here,
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    and to set myself up here,
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    which,
    I didn't think I would get at the start.
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    But the truth is I don't
    have any complaints regarding this.
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    Because since the very first moment
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    I have always had opportunities, and if
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    something didn't work out,
    I was able to find something else and
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    you always have a chance to do something
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    or you can...
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    progress in your career.
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    The truth is that...
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    you are given all the help to move here.
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    Okay, and in terms of
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    the current situation with the pandemic
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    how have you found
    the lockdown period in the UK?
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    and have you spoken with family,
    in Spain and compared the two situations?
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    The truth is that for me,
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    it has been quite a hard year
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    due to the fact that I'm here
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    with restrictions on returning
    to your home, or to your country
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    honestly, it's tiring.
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    And... in terms of my job for example
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    I'm now working from home 80% of the time,
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    which is also very tiring
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    because I like to go out, to visits,
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    to farms,
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    but right now I can't.
    [Yes.]
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    [Therefore for me it has been a hard year]
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    in terms of the pandemic
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    but I think that's just in general
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    because the whole world has been affected.
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    I don't think that anyone
    is comfortable with the situation.
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    So it's something that,
    well it's a pain in the neck
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    that we have to try to improve in some way
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    and we hope
    that maybe with the vaccination
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    it could be a way out, or a solution.
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    I think that here in England
    the rate of vaccination is quite high
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    they are doing it a lot quicker
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    in comparison
    with other European countries
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    [we can only hope that,]
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    the situation improves.
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    And the situation in Spain...
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    I think that,
    at the beginning of the pandemic
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    I think the lockdown
    here was much more relaxed
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    because, since the beginning,
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    you were allowed to go outside
    on the street for an hour to do exercise
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    however when I spoke with people in Spain
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    they had a hard lockdown because
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    they couldn't leave to do anything
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    only to go food shopping.
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    The streets were empty,
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    it was something completely different.
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    It wasn't like here,
    you saw people walking in the street
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    but in Spain,
    you weren't even allowed to walk.
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    However now, for us here,
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    since November or December I think
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    everything has been closed:
    the restaurants, the bars, the gyms.
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    However in Spain, for some time now,
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    before Christmas, you could go out.
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    You could go out in the street,
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    grab something to drink in the bars,
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    I think there is a curfew
    they are open between 6pm and 8pm
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    but I think now,
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    they have a lockdown,
    but not as serious as ours.
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    Yes, yes it's true, it's been a hard year
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    it's been a hard year for everyone.
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    Yes, and... as time has passed,
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    how would you
    compare your experience of migration
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    with what you had hoped it to be?
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    In what sense?
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    For example,
    what did you think before coming here?
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    And is it the
    same as what you hoped it to be?
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    I..., well when I came here
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    my idea was to stay for only one year,
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    Yes.
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    [so in the end,]
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    due to life's circumstances
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    you're getting another job,
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    you're making new friends,
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    in the end you are living your life
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    [and...]
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    at the beginning,
    I was only staying for a year
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    but in the end, well I decided to stay
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    I don't know for how long but...
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    I also want to return to where i'm from.
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    Okay
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    [But, you never know,]
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    you never know
    if you are going to be here for one year,
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    six months, five years, ten years
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    you never know.
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    Okay, and now a little about your identity
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    do you think
    you are a very different person
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    when you are in Spain?
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    Um, I don't think...
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    I think not, I believe
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    I'm the same here, there, wherever
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    you are the same person,
    you don't change your way of being
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    when you are in a different country.
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    Yes.
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    [They only thing
    you change perhaps is your habits]
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    based on where you are, but...
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    in terms of personality, I am the same
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    whether I am in England or in Spain
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    I behave the same with the people here,
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    people in Spain, my family, everyone.
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    Yes, that's great.
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    And how do you maintain
    for example, your Spanish traditions?
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    while you are here in the UK?
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    Well, for example I love to cook
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    Okay
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    [I try to cook
    lots of typical Spanish food]
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    because I like the food, and...
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    I could cook other cuisines, but...
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    I do try to cook typical dishes from here.
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    Yes.
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    I am from the south of Spain,
    it's sunny, there are beaches
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    and here we are also in the south,
    with beaches that are really beautiful
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    it just lacks the weather,
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    so here I try and do the same,
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    when spring and summer arrive
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    I tend to go on the weekend
    to Cornwall and Devon, to the beaches
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    I try to do these things.
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    Okay, and what type of food
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    is typical for your region in Spain?
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    any examples?
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    Well...
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    in my region they make Spanish omelette,
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    gazpacho, salmorejo,
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    Yes.
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    there is guiso, which is like a stew
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    [Ah okay,]
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    there are loads of typical dishes.
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    Yes.
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    and, in a normal year,
    how many times do you go to Spain?
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    Well in a normal year, I usually go for
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    two long holidays
    which are Christmas and Easter
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    and possibly another two more times
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    perhaps a long weekend, or five days
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    for Easter for example,
    or another time for four or five days
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    in total more or less four times a year.
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    Okay, and you have mentioned
    your plans to move back to Spain
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    do you think you will continue living
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    in the UK, I don't know, for a few years?
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    Or potentially forever?
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    What do you think?
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    Well to be honest I don't know,
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    I don't think I will go back to Spain
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    any time soon,
    let's say between now and a year
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    [but my intention is
    to return if I find something]
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    if I find a stable job there,
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    I would go back to Spain.
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    After six or seven years,
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    I feel good here, but I don't feel
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    as if I want to live here forever.
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    I know if I had the opportunity,
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    I'd go back to Spain.
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    Okay... yes.
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    And now some of your advice,
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    what are some of the most important things
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    that people can do to improve the process
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    of moving to a new country, or community?
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    I believe that, mainly, have an open mind
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    open to everything that could happen
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    good things, bad things
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    and always keep it as open as possible,
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    because, when you
    leave and change from a place that
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    is your comfort zone
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    to somewhere completely different,
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    a country where you don't know
    the language, the people, the culture
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    you need to be open
    to any experiences that might come up
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    whether good or bad.
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    Therefore,
    you need to have a clear mind, a calm mind
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    and although,
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    at the start there are more bad things,
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    you have to
    always have a positive mentality
  • 28:21 - 28:22
    [Yes.]
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    because it will change,
    at the start, nothing is easy
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    it is not just handed to you.
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    So at the start, it could be,
    that you find it more difficult
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    to get into a routine,
    a job, a language, the people
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    [but in the end, I believe]
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    if you stay positive, with a clear mind
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    you will meet people,
    you will get to know the place,
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    you are going to enjoy what your doing
  • 28:47 - 28:50
    and in the end you will feel comfortable.
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    Okay, yes. And would you like to
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    move to another country?
  • 28:56 - 28:59
    or just Spain and England?
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    Well, I lived in Italy for a year,
  • 29:02 - 29:06
    I did my Erasmus year there for 11 months
  • 29:06 - 29:09
    and, to be honest,
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    if I found something else
  • 29:12 - 29:15
    if I got a job opportunity,
  • 29:15 - 29:20
    I wouldn't say no to moving elsewhere
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    because I like to go to new places.
    [Yes.]
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    So, it's not that
    I just want to go back to Spain,
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    I want to go back
    if perhaps there's another job opportunity
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    but if I'm given
    an opportunity elsewhere in the world,
  • 29:35 - 29:38
    [and it is in line with the job I'm doing]
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    I don't mind moving to another country
  • 29:41 - 29:43
    to have another experience.
  • 29:43 - 29:45
    I don't know...
    you only get one life
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    you have to make the most of everything
  • 29:47 - 29:48
    that comes your way.
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    Yes!
  • 29:49 - 29:53
    And, what advice
    would you give to other Spaniards
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    specifically that are moving to the UK?
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    Do you have any advice?
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    The only thing I would say is
    if you can move to the south of England
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    because I think Birmingham and Manchester
    [laughter]
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    me no, but I do know
    other people that prefer these places
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    but I need to be in the South, always.
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    Yes, with the beaches
  • 30:16 - 30:17
    [Yes.]
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    But what I would say to them is
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    to come with
    a desire to learn, to meet people,
  • 30:26 - 30:28
    to experience the culture,
  • 30:28 - 30:31
    and that if you have the opportunity
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    or you have a job,
  • 30:34 - 30:36
    or you want to start a new life
  • 30:36 - 30:40
    don't be scared to do so, try it
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    and if it fails,
    you always have time to go back
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    to your country,
    to Spain, France, Italy, wherever.
  • 30:49 - 30:52
    So if they decide to change their life
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    or try a new opportunity here in England
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    do it,
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    Yes.
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    [it will most likely work out]
  • 30:58 - 31:00
    [but if not, it doesn't matter!]
  • 31:00 - 31:02
    It's simply another life experience
  • 31:02 - 31:05
    and if it is bad, it's not a failure
  • 31:05 - 31:08
    simply another experience,
    you can return and then try again
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    it's not a problem.
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    Yes,
    I think that is very important advice.
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    Okay,
    and is there anything I haven't asked
  • 31:17 - 31:20
    that you would like to add?
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    No, well I don't know,
  • 31:23 - 31:28
    well like I said, for now I'm here, and..
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    I don't have any issues with where I am
  • 31:31 - 31:34
    and what I am doing right now
  • 31:34 - 31:38
    and, I don't close doors to anything.
  • 31:40 - 31:44
    In the end, you will keep going
  • 31:44 - 31:47
    and you will continue
    leading your life by force of habit
  • 31:47 - 31:50
    so whatever is coming will come,
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    if I have to stay, I will stay,
    if I have to leave, I will leave
  • 31:53 - 31:55
    I don't put limits on anything
  • 31:55 - 32:00
    I don't put expiry dates on anything
  • 32:00 - 32:04
    simply do, create, work,
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    for as long as you can.
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    Okay, well,
  • 32:09 - 32:13
    thank you very much
    for participating in this Hector.
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    It was very interesting
    and I hope you have enjoyed it!
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    I hope you continue...
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    [It has been a pleasure!]
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    enjoying living here in the UK.
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    I will stop the recording now.
标题:
Transcultural Devon: Interview with Hector
Video Language:
Spanish
Duration:
32:29

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