[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, my name is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Michelle Nario Redmond. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am a social psychologist Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I teach at Hiram College. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the psychology \Nand biomedical humanities program, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I just wrote a book on ableism, \Nthe causes and consequences Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of disability prejudice.\NMy first memory, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'll just back up and say in 1990, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the ADA passed \NI was in graduate school, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Kansas, and disability prejudice,\Nthe ADA or anything Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,related to disability issues \Nwere completely off my radar, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I worked at a place \Nwhere one of the pioneers Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of disability studies worked, \NBeatrice Wright, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had yet to have a class with her. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It really wasn't until 1995,\Nwhich was five years later, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when my daughter was born,\NSierra, with spina bifoda, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I became aware \Nof disability and found the work Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Carol Gill and Simi Litton\Nand began to educate myself Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on disability studies and its scope,\Nand the first memory I have of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,confronting inaccessible spaces\Nwas a few years later, when we enrolled Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my daughter Sierra in a preschool,\Nat a Catholic preschool, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right down the road; and it just didn't\Neven dawn on me that we would have to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work so hard for her to be accommodated\Nas a preschooler, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was really a function of\Nthe fact that the building was older, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were steps, and they really didn't\Nknow, nor did they need to legally know, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about reasonable accommodations \Nand civil rights of their students, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they were a private facility and\Nweren't subject to the ADA's rules. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it became clear to me that we needed \Nto find a new preschool, and luckily Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we found another private place - \Nit wasn't a public school - Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it was a music school settlement\Nand they had resources Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were already operating \Nunder a sort of set of presumptions Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the value of diversity\Nand diverse perspectives, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we didn't really have to ask for much,\Nbecause they bent over backwards Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to include my daughter\Nin a typical classroom, with her peers, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her preschool peers, music classes,\Nthere were so many eclectic-- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movement classes, and they even\Npurchased equipment Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for their exercise room and movement room\Nthat would be useful to her among others, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she has since grown up to become this teacher \Nand has applied to work there Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a preschool teacher, so I think\Nit would be really amazing Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if she came full circle, but I guess\Nto answer the broader question Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about being frustrated and aware of\Ninaccessibility and lack of inclusion, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were in a district that, when she then\Nwas about to move to preschool, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew that she probably wouldn't be \Nable to go to a private school, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only because of the financial cost\Nbut also because they would not have to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think about best practices\Nand the law when it came to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accommodating their \Nstudents with disabilities, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I knew we would be\Nlooking at the public school, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the public school in our neigbourhood\Nwas not accessible. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We went to visit it,\Nthe playground had a little house Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that she wouldn't have been \Nable to get into, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was really disheartening\Nand so it came at a time Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we were already \Nlooking for other opportunities, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my husband got an opportunity\Nto move us as a family Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the West Coast\Nof Portland of Oregon, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the way I-- so the way we had to\Nnavigate her early educational experiences Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was to only look at spaces and schools\Nthat were in districts that were new, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that had buildings \Nand had training in terms of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accommodating their diverse students\Nand their disabled students, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because just having the brief experiences\Nthat I did with the preschool Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and IEP meetings that were going to\Nrequire me to fight at every juncture Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for her basic rights \Nto show what she knows Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and participate and recognize herself\Nas a valuable contributor Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the school community.\NWe're not going to be forthcoming Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without a fight, \Nand so we narrowed our search Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a district,\Nand thank God we had the opportunity Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the resources to do this,\Nthat was pretty known for their Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inclusivity. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We did that also when we came back \Nto the Cleveland, Ohio area. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were able to avoid all districts\Nthat weren't at the cutting edge Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of full inclusion and proof of excellence\Nand had newer buildings Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that could accommodate those \Nwith disabilities, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I guess that that was my earliest\Nmemory of how, 'Oh, we have a road Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ahead of us and we have to take it upon\Nourselves to either continue to fight Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,battles that had already been won, \Nlegislatively, or, finds spaces, places Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and organizations that were ahead\Nof the curve Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of implementing, monitoring and \Njust execute the basic civil rights Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of their various constituents Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The impact that all of that has had on me \Nis to just be able to communicate Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with other parents and students \Nwith disabilities Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about not only knowing their rights but\Nknowing how to get those rights Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to advocate for ensuring that those \Nrights are addressed, are met. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the ADA has made \Na huge difference Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the 'ah ha' moment was even when I was\Ncollating information for this book Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on disability prejudice, I realised that \Nwhen I was a kid, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I was growing up in the 60s and 70s, \Npeople with disabilities weren't able to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do any of the things that we took for \Ngranted as kids- go to the movies Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go to restaurants, go to visit a friend,\Nat a friend's house, or invite Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,others to your birthday parties. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since the ADA passed in 1990, it wasn't \Nan immediate set of changes, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as, there has been significant progress\Nmade, particularly in public spaces Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in employment settings, where there\Nare even employers Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are part of an organization \Nof inclusive excellence, who Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recognize that disabled employees are \Nactually more reliable and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have less turnover and are worth\Ninvesting in and promoting. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, there are still so many places, \Nsmall businesses, educational institutions Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are not carrying out basic gains and\Npractices that the ADA has made possible Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's just way too much variation,\Nand I think part of that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just a lack of education in terms what Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is reasonable and what is necessary Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of accommodating your citizenry Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and lack of resources in some cases but Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also a lot of misinformation about whether Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or not it's worth it. The ADA is going to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be 30 here in July. We're celebrating all Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over the country and we are still fighting Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for businesses to do what they should have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,done 30 years ago, those that have been Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around this long. They have not, they have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have waited for complaints or they have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,failed to do but the bare minimum in Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,terms of recruiting the largest minority Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I work in the education sphere and to me, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could be doing so much more with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advertising and recruiting for those kinds Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of students that we tend to really, at Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,least my institution, do well to retain Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we're a small, intimate college Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hiram College. For years I've tried to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,encourage us to consider more universally Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,designed approaches but also approaches Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that do more when it comes to housing and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extracurricular accommodations for Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,students to who use mobility devices. For Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example, my daughter ended up having to be Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carried in her chair, to various club Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meetings while she was on the Hiram Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,College campus. She was told that, in the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,winter, when the ice storms came, that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they couldn't transport her up the long Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hill, while they were telling everyone Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,else to walk like a penguin, and we had Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vans to do this. We had to file with the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ohio Disability Rights Commission and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,request that the school think about other Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ways of accommodating her should there Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be a storm, an ice storm, and she can't Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get up to campus.