WEBVTT 00:00:01.523 --> 00:00:02.960 Twice a week, 00:00:02.984 --> 00:00:05.492 I drive from my home near Tijuana, Mexico, 00:00:05.516 --> 00:00:08.674 over the US border, to my office in San Diego. 00:00:08.698 --> 00:00:12.854 The stark contrast between the poverty and desperation on one side of the border 00:00:12.878 --> 00:00:14.737 and the conspicuous wealth on the other 00:00:14.761 --> 00:00:16.449 always feels jarring. 00:00:16.473 --> 00:00:19.203 But what makes this contrast feel even starker 00:00:19.227 --> 00:00:22.514 is when I pass by the building that those of us who work on the border 00:00:22.538 --> 00:00:24.855 unaffectionately refer to as the black hole. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:27.316 The black hole is the Customs and Border Protection, 00:00:27.340 --> 00:00:28.641 or CBP facility, 00:00:28.665 --> 00:00:30.466 at the San Ysidro port of entry, 00:00:30.490 --> 00:00:32.879 right next to a luxury outlet mall. 00:00:32.903 --> 00:00:34.975 It's also where, at any one time, 00:00:34.999 --> 00:00:36.791 there's likely 800 immigrants 00:00:36.815 --> 00:00:40.259 locked in freezing, filthy, concrete cells below the building. 00:00:40.609 --> 00:00:43.291 Up top: shopping bags and frappuccinos. 00:00:43.315 --> 00:00:47.093 Downstairs: the reality of the US immigration system. 00:00:47.117 --> 00:00:50.212 And it's where, one day in September of 2018, 00:00:50.236 --> 00:00:52.465 I found myself trying to reach Anna, 00:00:52.489 --> 00:00:56.347 a woman who CBP had recently separated from her seven-year-old son. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:57.101 --> 00:00:58.412 I'm an immigration attorney 00:00:58.436 --> 00:01:01.220 and the policy and litigation director of Al Otro Lado, 00:01:01.244 --> 00:01:05.497 a binational nonprofit helping immigrants on both sides of the US-Mexico border. 00:01:05.982 --> 00:01:09.188 We'd met Anna several weeks earlier at our Tijuana office, 00:01:09.212 --> 00:01:13.196 where she explained that she feared she and her son would be killed in Mexico. 00:01:13.220 --> 00:01:16.871 So we prepared her for the process of turning herself over to CBP 00:01:16.895 --> 00:01:18.220 to ask for asylum. 00:01:19.109 --> 00:01:22.341 A few days after she'd gone to the port of entry to ask for help, 00:01:22.365 --> 00:01:23.947 we received a frantic phone call 00:01:23.971 --> 00:01:26.365 from her family members in the United States, 00:01:26.389 --> 00:01:29.762 telling us that CBP officials had taken Anna's son from her. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:30.357 --> 00:01:32.243 Now, not that this should matter, 00:01:32.267 --> 00:01:34.791 but I knew that Anna's son had special needs. 00:01:34.815 --> 00:01:35.973 And once again, 00:01:35.997 --> 00:01:38.744 this news filled me with the sense of panic and foreboding 00:01:38.768 --> 00:01:41.576 that has unfortunately become a hallmark of my daily work. 00:01:42.020 --> 00:01:44.957 I had a signed authorization to act as Anna's attorney, 00:01:44.981 --> 00:01:46.989 so I rushed over to the port of entry 00:01:47.013 --> 00:01:48.901 to see if I could speak with my client. 00:01:49.259 --> 00:01:52.349 Not only would CBP officials not let me speak to Anna, 00:01:52.373 --> 00:01:54.753 but they wouldn't even tell me if she was there. 00:01:55.063 --> 00:01:57.269 I went from supervisor to supervisor, 00:01:57.293 --> 00:02:00.476 begging to submit evidence of Anna's son's special needs, 00:02:00.500 --> 00:02:02.778 but no one would even talk to me about the case. 00:02:03.133 --> 00:02:06.240 It felt surreal to watch the shoppers strolling idly by 00:02:06.264 --> 00:02:08.860 what felt like a life-and-death situation. 00:02:09.490 --> 00:02:12.506 After several hours of being stonewalled by CBP, 00:02:12.530 --> 00:02:13.918 I left. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:13.942 --> 00:02:15.101 Several days later, 00:02:15.125 --> 00:02:17.704 I found Anna's son in the foster-care system. 00:02:17.728 --> 00:02:19.760 But I didn't know what happened to Anna 00:02:19.784 --> 00:02:21.133 until over a week later, 00:02:21.157 --> 00:02:24.132 when she turned up at a detention camp a few miles east. 00:02:24.458 --> 00:02:26.871 Now, Anna didn't have a criminal record, 00:02:26.895 --> 00:02:29.672 and she followed the law when asking for asylum. 00:02:29.696 --> 00:02:33.353 Still, immigration officials held her for three more months, 00:02:33.377 --> 00:02:35.250 until we could win her release 00:02:35.274 --> 00:02:37.511 and help her reunify with her son. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:37.893 --> 00:02:41.162 Anna's story is not the only story I could tell you. 00:02:41.186 --> 00:02:44.037 There's Mateo, an 18-month-old boy, 00:02:44.061 --> 00:02:46.125 who was ripped from his father's arms 00:02:46.149 --> 00:02:48.831 and sent to a government shelter thousands of miles away, 00:02:48.855 --> 00:02:51.772 where they failed to properly bathe him for months. 00:02:51.796 --> 00:02:52.968 There's Amadou, 00:02:52.992 --> 00:02:54.668 an unaccompanied African child, 00:02:54.692 --> 00:02:59.759 who was held with adults for 28 days in CBP's horrific facilities. 00:03:00.581 --> 00:03:02.799 Most disturbingly, there's Maria, 00:03:02.823 --> 00:03:07.108 a pregnant refugee who begged for medical attention for eight hours 00:03:07.132 --> 00:03:09.599 before she miscarried in CBP custody. 00:03:09.926 --> 00:03:12.982 CBP officials held her for three more weeks 00:03:13.006 --> 00:03:15.069 before they sent her back to Mexico, 00:03:15.093 --> 00:03:17.030 where she is being forced to wait months 00:03:17.054 --> 00:03:19.236 for an asylum hearing in the United States. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:20.331 --> 00:03:23.656 Seeing these horrors day in and day out has changed me. 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:25.736 I used to be fun at parties, 00:03:25.760 --> 00:03:29.343 but now, I inevitably find myself telling people 00:03:29.367 --> 00:03:32.248 about how our government tortures refugees at the border 00:03:32.272 --> 00:03:34.264 and in the detention camps. 00:03:34.288 --> 00:03:36.074 Now, people try to change the subject 00:03:36.098 --> 00:03:40.488 and congratulate me for the great work I'm doing in helping people like Anna. 00:03:40.512 --> 00:03:42.599 But I don't know how to make them understand 00:03:42.623 --> 00:03:46.179 that unless they start fighting, harder than they ever thought possible, 00:03:46.203 --> 00:03:49.504 we don't know which of us will be the next to suffer Anna's fate. 00:03:50.337 --> 00:03:53.022 Trump's mass separations of refugee families 00:03:53.046 --> 00:03:54.202 at the southern border 00:03:54.226 --> 00:03:55.997 shocked the conscience of the world 00:03:56.021 --> 00:03:58.838 and woke many to the cruelties of the US immigration system. 00:03:59.307 --> 00:04:00.466 It seems like today, 00:04:00.490 --> 00:04:03.791 more people than ever are involved in the fight for immigrant rights. 00:04:03.815 --> 00:04:07.101 But unfortunately, the situation is just not getting better. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:07.749 --> 00:04:10.685 Thousands protested to end family separations, 00:04:10.709 --> 00:04:13.185 but the government is still separating families. 00:04:13.209 --> 00:04:16.050 More than 900 children have been taken from their parents 00:04:16.074 --> 00:04:17.701 since June of 2018. 00:04:18.188 --> 00:04:22.034 Thousands more refugee children have been taken from their grandparents, 00:04:22.058 --> 00:04:24.823 siblings and other family members at the border. 00:04:24.847 --> 00:04:26.432 Since 2017, 00:04:26.456 --> 00:04:30.022 at least two dozen people have died in immigration custody. 00:04:30.046 --> 00:04:32.878 And more will die, including children. 00:04:34.006 --> 00:04:37.387 Now, we lawyers can and will keep filing lawsuits 00:04:37.411 --> 00:04:40.537 to stop the government from brutalizing our clients, 00:04:40.561 --> 00:04:43.265 but we can't keep tinkering around the edges of the law 00:04:43.289 --> 00:04:46.089 if we want migrants to be treated humanely. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:46.614 --> 00:04:50.720 This administration would have you believe that we have to separate families 00:04:50.744 --> 00:04:52.458 and we have to detain children, 00:04:52.482 --> 00:04:55.553 because it will stop more refugees from coming to our borders. 00:04:55.577 --> 00:04:57.220 But we know that this isn't true. 00:04:57.244 --> 00:04:59.149 In fact, in 2019, 00:04:59.173 --> 00:05:01.577 the number of apprehensions at our southern border 00:05:01.601 --> 00:05:03.212 has actually gone up. 00:05:03.236 --> 00:05:05.347 And we tell people every day at the border, 00:05:05.371 --> 00:05:07.514 "If you seek asylum in the United States, 00:05:07.538 --> 00:05:09.212 you risk family separation, 00:05:09.236 --> 00:05:11.560 and you risk being detained indefinitely." 00:05:11.584 --> 00:05:14.909 But for many of them, the alternative is even worse. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:15.862 --> 00:05:19.980 People seek refuge in the United States for a lot of different reasons. 00:05:20.004 --> 00:05:22.941 In Tijuana, we've met refugees from over 50 countries, 00:05:22.965 --> 00:05:24.949 speaking 14 different languages. 00:05:25.267 --> 00:05:28.180 We meet LGBT migrants from all over the world 00:05:28.204 --> 00:05:31.061 who have never been in a country in which they feel safe. 00:05:31.418 --> 00:05:33.323 We meet women from all over the world 00:05:33.347 --> 00:05:35.641 whose own governments refuse to protect them 00:05:35.665 --> 00:05:39.053 from brutal domestic violence or repressive social norms. 00:05:39.619 --> 00:05:41.667 Of course, we meet Central American families 00:05:41.691 --> 00:05:43.484 who are fleeing gang violence. 00:05:43.508 --> 00:05:45.524 But we also meet Russian dissidents, 00:05:45.548 --> 00:05:47.032 Venezuelan activists, 00:05:47.056 --> 00:05:51.016 Christians from China, Muslims from China, 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:53.436 and thousands and thousands of other refugees 00:05:53.460 --> 00:05:56.006 fleeing all types of persecution and torture. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:56.563 --> 00:06:00.103 Now, a lot of these people would qualify as refugees 00:06:00.127 --> 00:06:02.563 under the international legal definition. 00:06:02.871 --> 00:06:06.196 The Refugee Convention was created after World War II 00:06:06.220 --> 00:06:09.063 to give protection to people fleeing persecution 00:06:09.087 --> 00:06:13.527 based on their race, religion, nationality, political opinion 00:06:13.551 --> 00:06:15.813 or membership in a particular social group. 00:06:16.115 --> 00:06:19.980 But even those who would be refugees under the international definition 00:06:20.004 --> 00:06:22.807 are not going to win asylum in the United States. 00:06:22.831 --> 00:06:25.029 And that's because since 2017, 00:06:25.053 --> 00:06:29.109 the US Attorneys General have made sweeping changes to asylum law, 00:06:29.133 --> 00:06:33.101 to make sure that less people qualify for protection in the United States. 00:06:33.474 --> 00:06:36.244 Now these laws are mostly aimed at Central Americans 00:06:36.268 --> 00:06:38.101 and keeping them out of the country, 00:06:38.125 --> 00:06:41.165 but they affect other types of refugees as well. 00:06:41.498 --> 00:06:45.450 The result is that the US frequently deports refugees 00:06:45.474 --> 00:06:47.541 to their persecution and death. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:48.689 --> 00:06:52.839 The US is also using detention to try to deter refugees 00:06:52.863 --> 00:06:55.448 and make it harder for them to win their cases. 00:06:55.472 --> 00:07:00.321 Today, there are over 55,000 immigrants detained in the United States, 00:07:00.345 --> 00:07:02.797 many in remote detention facilities, 00:07:02.821 --> 00:07:04.551 far from any type of legal help. 00:07:04.575 --> 00:07:06.577 And this is very important. 00:07:06.601 --> 00:07:09.616 Because it's civil and not criminal detention, 00:07:09.640 --> 00:07:11.918 there is no public defender system, 00:07:11.942 --> 00:07:14.831 so most detained immigrants are not going to have an attorney 00:07:14.855 --> 00:07:16.354 to help them with their cases. 00:07:16.768 --> 00:07:18.823 An immigrant who has an attorney 00:07:18.847 --> 00:07:21.863 is up to 10 times more likely to win their case 00:07:21.887 --> 00:07:23.287 than one who doesn't. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:23.760 --> 00:07:26.862 And as you've seen, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, 00:07:26.886 --> 00:07:30.220 but the situation is even worse for refugee families today 00:07:30.244 --> 00:07:32.673 than it was during family separation. 00:07:32.697 --> 00:07:35.189 Since January of 2019, 00:07:35.213 --> 00:07:36.991 the US has implemented a policy 00:07:37.015 --> 00:07:41.038 that's forced over 40,000 refugees to wait in Mexico 00:07:41.062 --> 00:07:44.000 for asylum hearings in the United States. 00:07:44.024 --> 00:07:46.849 These refugees, many of whom are families, 00:07:46.873 --> 00:07:49.999 are trapped in some of the most dangerous cities in the world, 00:07:50.023 --> 00:07:51.985 where they're being raped, kidnapped 00:07:52.009 --> 00:07:54.180 and extorted by criminal groups. 00:07:54.204 --> 00:07:57.815 And if they survive for long enough to make it to their asylum hearing, 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:01.179 less than one percent of them are able to find an attorney 00:08:01.203 --> 00:08:03.203 to help them with their cases. 00:08:04.363 --> 00:08:08.923 The US government will point to the lowest asylum approval rates 00:08:08.947 --> 00:08:11.455 to argue that these people are not really refugees, 00:08:11.479 --> 00:08:15.185 when in fact, US asylum law is an obstacle course 00:08:15.209 --> 00:08:16.994 designed to make them fail. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:17.018 --> 00:08:19.967 Now not every migrant at the border is a refugee. 00:08:19.991 --> 00:08:22.078 I meet plenty of economic migrants. 00:08:22.102 --> 00:08:25.197 For example, people who want to go to the United States to work, 00:08:25.221 --> 00:08:27.007 to pay medical bills for a parent 00:08:27.031 --> 00:08:29.674 or school fees for a child back home. 00:08:29.698 --> 00:08:32.709 Increasingly, I'm also meeting climate refugees. 00:08:32.733 --> 00:08:36.543 In particular, I'm meeting a lot of indigenous Central Americans 00:08:36.567 --> 00:08:39.313 who can no longer sustain themselves by farming, 00:08:39.337 --> 00:08:41.526 due to catastrophic drought in the region. 00:08:42.061 --> 00:08:43.799 We know that today, 00:08:43.823 --> 00:08:46.561 people are migrating because of climate change, 00:08:46.585 --> 00:08:48.776 and that more will do so in the future, 00:08:48.800 --> 00:08:52.513 but we simply don't have a legal system to deal with this type of migration. 00:08:53.522 --> 00:08:56.841 So, it would make sense, as a start, 00:08:56.865 --> 00:08:58.704 to expand the refugee definition 00:08:58.728 --> 00:09:01.585 to include climate refugees, for example. 00:09:01.609 --> 00:09:04.490 But those of us in a position to advocate for those changes 00:09:04.514 --> 00:09:06.371 are too busy suing our government 00:09:06.395 --> 00:09:10.410 to keep the meager legal protections that refugees enjoy under the current law. 00:09:10.434 --> 00:09:12.467 And we are exhausted, 00:09:12.491 --> 00:09:14.691 and it's almost too late to help. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:15.760 --> 00:09:16.918 And we know now 00:09:16.942 --> 00:09:19.221 that this isn't America's problem alone. 00:09:19.245 --> 00:09:22.490 From Australia's brutal offshore detention camps 00:09:22.514 --> 00:09:27.807 to Italy's criminalization of aid to migrants drowning in the Mediterranean, 00:09:27.831 --> 00:09:30.641 first-world countries have gone to deadly lengths 00:09:30.665 --> 00:09:33.260 to keep refugees from reaching our shores. 00:09:33.640 --> 00:09:36.985 But they've done more than restrict the refugee definition. 00:09:37.009 --> 00:09:40.350 They've created parallel, fascist-style legal systems 00:09:40.374 --> 00:09:44.469 in which migrants have none of the rights that form the basis of a democracy, 00:09:44.493 --> 00:09:48.207 the alleged foundation of the countries in which they're seeking refuge. 00:09:48.776 --> 00:09:50.721 History shows us that the first group 00:09:50.745 --> 00:09:54.538 to be vilified and stripped of their rights is rarely the last, 00:09:54.562 --> 00:09:57.054 and many Americans and Europeans 00:09:57.078 --> 00:10:01.239 seem to accept an opaque and unjust legal system for noncitizens, 00:10:01.263 --> 00:10:03.001 because they think they are immune. 00:10:03.025 --> 00:10:04.231 But eventually, 00:10:04.255 --> 00:10:07.889 these authoritarian ideals bleed over and affect citizens as well. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:08.644 --> 00:10:10.149 I learned this firsthand 00:10:10.173 --> 00:10:13.172 when the US government placed me on an illegal watch list 00:10:13.196 --> 00:10:15.744 for my work helping immigrants at the border. 00:10:16.411 --> 00:10:18.363 One day, in January of 2019, 00:10:18.387 --> 00:10:20.298 I was leaving my office in San Diego 00:10:20.322 --> 00:10:22.950 and crossing the border to go back to my home in Mexico. 00:10:23.609 --> 00:10:26.912 Mexican officials, although they had given me a valid visa, 00:10:26.936 --> 00:10:29.675 stopped me and told me that I couldn't enter the country 00:10:29.699 --> 00:10:33.523 because a foreign government had placed a travel alert on my passport, 00:10:33.547 --> 00:10:36.229 designating me as a national security risk. 00:10:36.253 --> 00:10:39.993 I was detained and interrogated in a filthy room for hours. 00:10:40.017 --> 00:10:41.493 I begged the Mexican officials 00:10:41.517 --> 00:10:44.389 to let me go back to Mexico and pick up my son, 00:10:44.413 --> 00:10:46.699 who was only 10 months old at the time. 00:10:47.515 --> 00:10:48.675 But they refused, 00:10:48.699 --> 00:10:51.141 and instead, they turned me over to CBP officials, 00:10:51.165 --> 00:10:53.910 where I was forced back into the United States. 00:10:53.934 --> 00:10:57.406 It took me weeks to get another visa so that I could go back to Mexico, 00:10:57.430 --> 00:11:00.065 and I went to the border, visa in hand. 00:11:00.089 --> 00:11:02.136 But again, I was detained and interrogated 00:11:02.160 --> 00:11:05.033 because there was still a travel alert on my passport. 00:11:05.597 --> 00:11:06.871 Shortly after, 00:11:06.895 --> 00:11:08.928 leaked internal CBP documents 00:11:08.952 --> 00:11:11.006 confirmed that my own government 00:11:11.030 --> 00:11:14.174 had been complicit in issuing this travel alert against me. 00:11:14.538 --> 00:11:17.506 And since then, I haven't traveled to any other countries, 00:11:17.530 --> 00:11:19.403 because I'm afraid I'll be detained 00:11:19.427 --> 00:11:21.760 and deported from those countries as well. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:22.228 --> 00:11:24.514 These travel restrictions, detentions 00:11:24.538 --> 00:11:26.625 and separation from my infant son 00:11:26.649 --> 00:11:30.727 are things I never thought I would experience as a US citizen, 00:11:30.751 --> 00:11:34.703 but I'm far from the only person being criminalized for helping immigrants. 00:11:34.727 --> 00:11:38.489 The US and other countries have made it a crime to save lives, 00:11:38.513 --> 00:11:41.442 and those of us who are simply trying to do our jobs 00:11:41.466 --> 00:11:44.914 are being forced to choose between our humanity and our freedom. 00:11:45.498 --> 00:11:47.410 And the thing that makes me so desperate 00:11:47.434 --> 00:11:49.998 is that all of you are facing the same choice, 00:11:50.022 --> 00:11:51.903 but you don't understand it yet. 00:11:52.553 --> 00:11:54.895 And I know there are good people out there. 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:56.831 I saw thousands of you in the streets, 00:11:56.855 --> 00:11:58.788 protesting family separation. 00:11:59.268 --> 00:12:02.910 And that largely helped bring about an end to the official policy. 00:12:03.588 --> 00:12:06.461 But we know that the government is still separating children. 00:12:06.485 --> 00:12:08.525 And things are actually getting worse. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:08.549 --> 00:12:11.368 Today, the US government is fighting for the right 00:12:11.392 --> 00:12:14.826 to detain refugee children indefinitely in prison camps. 00:12:15.538 --> 00:12:16.958 This isn't over. 00:12:16.982 --> 00:12:20.196 We cannot allow ourselves to become numb or look away. 00:12:21.077 --> 00:12:23.291 Those of us who are citizens of countries 00:12:23.315 --> 00:12:27.220 whose policies cause detention, separation and death, 00:12:27.244 --> 00:12:29.869 need to very quickly decide which side we're on. 00:12:30.401 --> 00:12:35.259 We need to demand that our laws respect the inherent dignity of all human beings, 00:12:35.283 --> 00:12:38.584 especially refugees seeking help at our borders, 00:12:38.608 --> 00:12:41.997 but including economic migrants and climate refugees. 00:12:42.719 --> 00:12:45.501 We need to demand that refugees get a fair shot 00:12:45.525 --> 00:12:47.680 at seeking protection in our countries 00:12:47.704 --> 00:12:50.076 by ensuring that they have access to council 00:12:50.100 --> 00:12:51.926 and by creating independent courts 00:12:51.950 --> 00:12:55.315 that are not subject to the political whims of the president. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:56.069 --> 00:12:57.847 I know it's overwhelming, 00:12:57.871 --> 00:13:00.228 and I know this sounds cliché, but ... 00:13:01.267 --> 00:13:03.722 we need to call our elected representatives 00:13:03.746 --> 00:13:05.412 and demand these changes. 00:13:06.094 --> 00:13:07.674 I know you've heard this before, 00:13:07.698 --> 00:13:09.587 but have you made the call? 00:13:09.611 --> 00:13:11.746 We know these calls make a difference. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:12.897 --> 00:13:16.635 The dystopian immigration systems being built up in first-world countries 00:13:16.659 --> 00:13:19.223 are a test of citizens 00:13:19.247 --> 00:13:22.545 to see how far you're willing to let the government go 00:13:22.569 --> 00:13:26.545 in taking away other people's rights when you think it won't happen to you. 00:13:27.427 --> 00:13:29.966 But when you let the government take people's children 00:13:29.990 --> 00:13:31.625 without due process 00:13:31.649 --> 00:13:34.831 and detain people indefinitely without access to council, 00:13:34.855 --> 00:13:36.522 you are failing the test. 00:13:37.109 --> 00:13:39.276 What's happening to immigrants now 00:13:39.300 --> 00:13:42.934 is a preview of where we're all headed if we fail to act. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:43.442 --> 00:13:44.610 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:44.634 --> 00:13:49.730 (Applause)