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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:02.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi, I'm Beth Haller.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.39,0:00:08.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm a professor of Mass Communication\Nat Towsen University in Maryland.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.41,0:00:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also teach Disability Studies there\Nand at several other campuses.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.34,0:00:18.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I teach at City University of New York\Nand their Disability Studies program;
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.64,0:00:23.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I teach at York University in Toronto\Nand their Disability Studies program;
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.05,0:00:26.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I teach at University of Texas, Arlington\Nand their Disability Studies minor.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.29,0:00:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I've been doing research since\Nthe early 90's
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.70,0:00:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about media representations of people\Nwith disabilities.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.25,0:00:39.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I have a kind of unique\Nrelationship to the ADA
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.18,0:00:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I did my dissertation on\Nhow the news media covered it.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.07,0:00:48.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So before I went to Temple University\Nin Philadelphia to get my PhD,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.46,0:00:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was at University of Maryland College\NPark getting my Masters and
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.27,0:00:57.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started that in 1989,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.76,0:01:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's a reason for all these numbers\N(laughs) these dates,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.18,0:01:05.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in 1988 is when the Deaf President\NNow movement happened
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.53,0:01:10.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at Gallaudet University in DC, and I think\Nsomewhere in the back of my mind
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.65,0:01:17.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew about what was happening because I\Nwas a journalist before I became academic.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.29,0:01:24.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when I started at College Park in 1989\NI ended up doing an article for a class
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.73,0:01:29.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about a deaf student at Gallaudet and I\Ngot very interested in the deaf community,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.53,0:01:31.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a huge deaf community\Nin the DC area.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.76,0:01:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ended up doing my Masters thesis on\Nhow the deaf community was represented
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.01,0:01:38.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before, during and after \NDeaf President Now
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.83,0:01:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the New York Times and the\NWashington Post, and it kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.91,0:01:44.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was a jumping-off point.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.62,0:01:50.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I left College Park it was 1991\Nand so the ADA had just been passed
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.55,0:01:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when I got to Temple to start \Nworking on my PhD
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.00,0:01:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew that I wanted to still work in\Nthe area of disability
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.17,0:02:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we just had this major disability\Nrights law passed.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.93,0:02:05.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember it more as a focus\Nof my research
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.77,0:02:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cause I don't necessarily remember seeing\Nthe actual coverage on the day it happened
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.42,0:02:16.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in 1990, but I do remember looking at all\Nthe coverage because that was the subject
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.77,0:02:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of my dissertation.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.46,0:02:23.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was really interesting to look\Nat it as an academic
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.70,0:02:28.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to kind of watch it happen and\Nthen not happen (laughs)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.53,0:02:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as it moved into the future.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.46,0:02:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my dissertation looked at how the\Nmainstream news media,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.01,0:02:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, all the big news magazines\Nand the major newspapers back then.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.79,0:02:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I finished my dissertation in '94,\Ngraduated in '95
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.61,0:02:53.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it was very early days of the ADA and \Nso it wasn't really being implemented yet
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.29,0:02:57.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they gave several years for\Npeople to get into compliance
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.77,0:03:04.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but as the years have passed it's been\Nvery interesting to watch how things
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.22,0:03:06.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weren't happening.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.39,0:03:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think what we all thought was\Ngoing to happen was:
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.00,0:03:12.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Congress passes this major\Ndisability rights law and
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.42,0:03:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then people would follow it\Nbecause it's now federal law
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.35,0:03:18.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not to discriminate based on disability
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.83,0:03:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that isn't what happened (laughs).
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.98,0:03:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And from a media standpoint, that really\Nkind of hurt the ADA because-
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.61,0:03:33.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've even had this conversation with\NDisability Studies scholars and
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.74,0:03:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disability rights activists-\Nbecause they I think thought
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.52,0:03:41.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that same way that it's now law\Nand everything will be fine,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.13,0:03:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there was such a history of being\Ncovered in the media so badly
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.25,0:03:54.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the activists thought they could get\Nthis past and everything would be fine
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.18,0:03:56.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they didn't need the\Nmedia for anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.15,0:04:01.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I come onto the scene, I start going\Nto Society for Disability Studies
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.21,0:04:06.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meetings in the early 90's,\Nstarted presenting my research
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.55,0:04:10.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even the disability community in those\Nfirst early years right after the ADA
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.33,0:04:14.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't understand why the\Nmedia was important.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.49,0:04:16.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I remember presenting\Nat a conference,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.85,0:04:21.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a Disability Studies conference,\Nand people coming up to me and saying
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.24,0:04:26.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"That's really nice that you do work on\Nmedia, but we have bigger things we
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.26,0:04:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to be dealing with: getting people\Njobs, getting people proper education
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.88,0:04:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting people out of nursing homes."\NMy response to everybody was
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.86,0:04:40.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"How do you think you're going to do that\Nif you're not getting out information
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.89,0:04:44.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into public opinion, so if you're not\Nable to change public opinion
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.31,0:04:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how can you get these\Nthings accomplished?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.40,0:04:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how do you get public opinion\Nchanged? You get a proper narrative
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.04,0:04:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going in the media." And now there's\Nactual Disability Studies research
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.88,0:05:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and disability activists who've talked\Nabout this in the early 2000's
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.16,0:05:07.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about, they took the wrong tactic\Nafter the ADA was passed
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.82,0:05:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and decided that, it was passed\Nit would get enforced.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.40,0:05:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yay we can move on." But\NUnfortunately the business kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.74,0:05:23.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,narrative came into the mix and they\Ncontrolled the message that was in the
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.81,0:05:28.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,media and so from quite a number of\Nyears after the ADA was passed,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.35,0:05:34.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it wasn't being enforced because there\Nwas this narrative in the news media
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.37,0:05:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it was an unfunded mandate and\N"Well, we never saw a person with a
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.56,0:05:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disability in our store, why do \Nwe have to do all this stuff?"
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.52,0:05:45.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well of course, the reason they didn't see\Na person with a dis- a wheelchair user
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.34,0:05:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their store is because it wasn't\Naccessible or nobody came to their
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.65,0:05:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,website because it was inaccessible\N(laughs) but they didn't get that.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.93,0:05:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of the journalists didn't know\Npeople in the disability community
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.57,0:06:00.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the disability community was\Nvery wary of the news media
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.62,0:06:06.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they'd done such a bad job, but\Nany news coverage in my opinion is better
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.63,0:06:08.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than no news coverage usually (laughs).
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.68,0:06:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the business community really took\Nover the narrative and had this really
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.48,0:06:20.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,negative perception of the ADA\Nthat was funnelling into the media,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.43,0:06:24.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then people just didn't know about it\Ncause it wasn't getting covered that much.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.41,0:06:30.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a national poll done, I believe\Nin, like, 1995, of Americans
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.27,0:06:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what they knew about the ADA\Nand other disability rights issues.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.79,0:06:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Only 18% of Americans in 1995 had even\Nheard of the American Disabilities Act
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.94,0:06:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I'm remembering the stats right. and
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.09,0:06:51.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So to me that is the fault of not engaging\Nwith media to do stories about that,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.86,0:06:53.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I know it's very difficult.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.36,0:06:58.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even today it's very difficult to get\Nthe media to do a more complex, policy,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.52,0:07:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,legal, government related\Nstory about disability
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.52,0:07:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not one of those \Ninspiration narrative stories,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.88,0:07:12.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's still worth fighting to try to\Nget those stories into the media.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.18,0:07:19.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the other kind of like data point I \Nwould say, what I always tell my students
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.69,0:07:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we're talking about the ADA: the \NADA enforcement depends on who's
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.38,0:07:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the White House.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.29,0:07:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we had quite a number of\NRepublican Presidents
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.83,0:07:34.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who did not care about the ADA being\Nenforced for, like, 8 years,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.82,0:07:39.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that is why it really only got more\Nenforced once Barack Obama became
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.36,0:07:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,president. There's a lot of external\Nfactors that meant that the ADA
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.36,0:07:49.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was not going to be changing things\Nas radically as we would have hoped,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.79,0:07:52.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or what we were thinking back in 1990.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.75,0:07:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The ADA has had impact in more recent\Nyears like I said since President Obama
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.92,0:08:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came into office and it was\Njust getting enforced.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.58,0:08:09.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I use a lot of these examples in my class,\Nof news stories about the ADA
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.73,0:08:11.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finally being implemented.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.17,0:08:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A couple that I use, one is about a\Nlittle city in Pennsylvania.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.18,0:08:26.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The headlines of a lot of ADA stories,\Nstill, are kind of I say they have this
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.09,0:08:31.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blaming tone. "Things are expensive\Nbecause of the ADA things are closing
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.38,0:08:35.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the ADA." I always tell my \Nstudents that narrative should be flipped.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.23,0:08:40.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The story really is, "Why didn't this town\Nin Pennsylvania comply with the ADA
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.89,0:08:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for however many years, 20 years."\NSo that, to me is the real story.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.26,0:08:56.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This one headline was about this town, I\Nbelieve was Logansport, Pennsylvania,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.03,0:09:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the headline was, "They must pay $8\Nmillion" for some kind of ADA compliance
Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.50,0:09:06.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they were finally going to do, I\Nthink in, like, 2008 or something.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.57,0:09:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm like, okay that $8 million\Nwould have been a lot less
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.54,0:09:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they'd just been compliant back in 1992\Nwhen they were supposed to be compliant,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.35,0:09:19.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they're still blaming the ADA.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.17,0:09:24.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now I think people, the general\Npublic now knows a lot more
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.43,0:09:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I actually chalk a lot\Nup to social media,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.54,0:09:33.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because now people are getting, not a \Nmediated story through the news media
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.62,0:09:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some journalist or some newscaster.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.78,0:09:39.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're actually on social media\Nwith people with disabilities
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.63,0:09:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see what their life is like.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.83,0:09:45.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I know in the last couple of years\Nwhen there was an assault on the ADA
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.94,0:09:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people in Congress were thinking about\Nand the President was thinking about
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.10,0:09:52.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,figuring out a way to knock it out.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.96,0:09:59.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw lots of allies on social media\Nbecause they were finally aware that there
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.27,0:10:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a disability rights law and they said\Nit should stay, it should not be repealed,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.92,0:10:08.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I think the media\Nhave a lot of power,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.03,0:10:10.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now that we have this very\Npersonal media of social media,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.94,0:10:15.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people get to know actual people with\Ndisabilities in their community
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.52,0:10:20.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they see the benefits of having\Nthings in braille or having captioning
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.70,0:10:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or having wheelchair ramps, or just\Nthinking about asking somebody before
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.27,0:10:30.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you barrel ahead and create something\Nthat may be inaccessible.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.35,0:10:35.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think the general public is a lot\Nmore aware than they were in 1995
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.33,0:10:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when only 18% of people had\Neven heard of the ADA.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.33,0:10:43.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even if they haven't heard of the ADA,\Nthey're in favour of disability rights,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.01,0:10:47.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think that one thing that came out\Nof that survey, even back in 1995,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.80,0:10:53.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that, they might have never heard of\Nthe ADA, but if you pose to Americans
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.43,0:10:57.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the concept of disability rights\Nthen they agree with that.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.95,0:11:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't think people should be\Ndiscriminated against just because they
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.60,0:11:06.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need a ramp to get into a building or\Nneed a sign language interpreter
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.65,0:11:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to apply for a job.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.22,0:11:14.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think there's a better feeling among\Nthe American public in terms of
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.78,0:11:20.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understanding disability rights and making\Nsure that everybody has equal access.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.94,0:11:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also I think people now understand\Npeople with disabilities are them,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.28,0:11:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are their friends, are their family \Nmembers, and so a lot of the hidden stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.46,0:11:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was happening before the ADA where\Npeople with disabilities were being
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.20,0:11:39.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hidden in their families, where\Nnobody talked about it,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.85,0:11:44.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I even noticed that, when I started\Nteaching at Temple when I was a grad
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.71,0:11:48.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,student, that the younger generation,\Nbecause a lot of them had grown up
Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.84,0:11:53.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in inclusive education, there was no shame\Nthey were proud to talk about their own
Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.95,0:11:58.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disability, their parent's disability,\Ntheir sibling's disability.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.05,0:12:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still remember a student, we had a \Ndiscussion, actually one of my journalism
Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.78,0:12:06.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,classes, and one student, she was talking\Nabout, her mother was fluent in sign
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.24,0:12:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,language cause both of her grandparents\Nwere deaf, so her mother's first language
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.04,0:12:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was sign language even\Nthough she was hearing.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.20,0:12:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another kid was like, "My brother\Nhas Down's Syndrome"
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.81,0:12:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said it with pride.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.34,0:12:23.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think the cultural change that the\NADA brought was really powerful too,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.23,0:12:28.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cause that is what gets you to the\Nplace, if you're a business person,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.51,0:12:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh okay, maybe I should be more open to\Nhiring somebody with Down's Syndrome
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.76,0:12:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to work in my grocery store, or whatever."
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.92,0:12:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think having that cultural change\Nwhere people are now including
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.24,0:12:47.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the disability community as\Npart of the American citizenry,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.03,0:12:50.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then that is a very powerful thing, I\Nthink that the ADA did.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.34,0:12:57.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. If the ADA stays around, I think\Nthat's a really good part of our future
Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.19,0:13:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's a really good law.\NIt was written really well,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.67,0:13:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it just needs to be\Nenforced at all times.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.28,0:13:10.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We learned about how it could be enforced\Nin those 8 years that President Obama
Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.65,0:13:14.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was in office, and I think we\Ncan continue to learn that.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.86,0:13:19.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Justice Department and Department\Nof Ed. and all the other federal agencies
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.02,0:13:23.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that enforce it, I think the\Ncommunity knows how to reach them
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.02,0:13:24.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tell them to enforce things,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.59,0:13:29.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people are even getting a little bit\Nbetter, even the business community
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.71,0:13:35.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understands now that people with\Ndisabilities are a major part of our
Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.21,0:13:41.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consumer culture, and now with the\Npandemic and everybody working online,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.78,0:13:44.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people with disabilities have\Nbeen, can be the leaders.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.59,0:13:49.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're the ones that have been doing the\Nworkaround to try to make a living
Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.37,0:13:53.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they've not been able to go\Nto an inaccessible building.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.17,0:13:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think the future is bright if we\Nwill listen to disabled people about
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.60,0:14:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the world needs to basically embrace\Neveryone and accommodate everyone,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.48,0:14:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it'll be a better future for everyone\Nbecause we talk about the hidden benefits
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.17,0:14:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of access for everyone, so think about\Nall the people that use curb cuts
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.80,0:14:20.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for their wheelie luggage and\Nall the UPS guys that use curb cuts
Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.43,0:14:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for rolling their hand carts. All the bars\Nthat use closed caption cause they're loud
Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.64,0:14:34.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So everybody gets benefits from disability\Nrelated access and I think it can only get
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.15,0:14:39.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better, if people learn to trust that the\Ndisability community can lead us,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.21,0:14:43.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they're the ones who are most\Ninnovative and entrepreneurial
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.76,0:14:51.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about making sure that they can move\Nforward in the most access-friendly ways.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.74,0:14:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there should be a lot more\Nlistening to people with disabilities
Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.86,0:15:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the future cause they've\Nalready worked out the problems
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.18,0:15:03.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're now dealing with in a pandemic.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.53,0:15:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think they can help us build a\Nfuture that's better for everyone,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.09,0:15:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether you have a disability or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.07,0:15:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What steps can we take right now?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.22,0:15:20.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think if you're not a person with\Na disability, being a good ally.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.99,0:15:27.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're a family member, being- \Nhelping to make sure that the person
Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.34,0:15:31.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your family with a disability is\Nempowered to be independent,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.38,0:15:34.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and giving them all the support they need.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.42,0:15:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're a person with a disability,\Nmaking sure that the world
Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.12,0:15:40.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is accommodating to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.31,0:15:50.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And everybody needs to focus on making\Nthe world completely accessible.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.29,0:15:54.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of people live in houses that\Ncannot be made accessible,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.62,0:15:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a lot of things are grandfathered\Ninto the ADA because they were built long
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.43,0:16:02.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before the ADA existed,\Nbut there's other locations.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.84,0:16:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's online, there's video chatting,\Nthere's all kinds of workarounds
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.98,0:16:12.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I think we can all embrace, and we\Ngot to quit whining about this stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.07,0:16:15.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because, I'm talking to you in the\Nmiddle of a pandemic (laughs).
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.72,0:16:21.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I hear so many people complaining\Nabout things that I'm like, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.17,0:16:25.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is all good, we can all\Nstill be connected, it's fine,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.63,0:16:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and things are going to change,\Nwe need to learn to adapt.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.08,0:16:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People with disabilities can teach us how\Nto adapt, and they have a major disability
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.40,0:16:39.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rights organisation called\NAdapt as well (laughs).
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.18,0:16:46.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think that's the key for all of us,\Nis to start learning to roll with it,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.56,0:16:51.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learning to adapt and make sure\Nthat we're bringing everyone along
Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.23,0:16:54.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into this new world that we're going to\Nhave to fashion post-pandemic,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.62,0:17:00.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that it's accessible to\Neveryone, that we're all equal,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.24,0:17:05.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're making sure that supports\Nand what people need are in place,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.05,0:17:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we can be a better community.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.68,0:17:12.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's kind of a weird time to be\Ntalking about all this (laughs).
Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.67,0:17:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I know it's the ADA's 30th\Nanniversary, I'm very glad that it's here
Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.76,0:17:22.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and still exists, but I really feel like\Nwe can use the model of the ADA
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.14,0:17:25.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from 30 years ago as we move forward.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.44,0:17:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're going to have to \Nrestructure so much of our world,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.52,0:17:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why not do it accessibly this time?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.57,0:17:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think the ADA can still give us\Nguidance even though it's 30 years old,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.57,0:17:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it can, it was built to lead us\Ninto the future just like a lot of our
Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.46,0:17:47.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,founding documents were, and I think if\Nwe look at the spirit of everything that's
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.39,0:17:51.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been passed in the good way of\Ngiving people rights in this country
Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.30,0:17:58.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we follow them, we will fashion the\Nfuture of a place that's hopefully very
Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.67,0:18:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accessible and make sure that everybody\Nhas equal access to our world.