From shame to pride, and everything in between | Kris Barz Mendonça | TEDxCSU
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0:10 - 0:11Hi everyone!
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0:11 - 0:13(Applause) (Cheers)
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0:13 - 0:16Hi. Ready for some drag story time?
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0:16 - 0:18(Audience) Yes!
Kris Barz Mendonça: All right. -
0:19 - 0:20Hello.
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0:20 - 0:22My name is Kris Barz Mendonça,
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0:22 - 0:25or at least the person
who is underneath all of this. -
0:25 - 0:28I'm a comics writer and artist.
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0:28 - 0:31Today, I would like to talk to you
about a few themes, -
0:31 - 0:32and with the help of my comics,
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0:32 - 0:35I would love you to join me
in this little journey of mine -
0:35 - 0:37growing up in Brazil.
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0:38 - 0:40I was born in 1985.
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0:40 - 0:43I'm a kid from the early 90s.
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0:44 - 0:47My family moved
around the country quite a lot -
0:47 - 0:49because of my father's work
in the military. -
0:49 - 0:54But at that time, we lived in a small city
in the countryside of Southern Brazil. -
0:55 - 0:56I never behaved
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0:56 - 1:01like my parents and other kids
expected a regular boy to behave. -
1:01 - 1:08I was sensitive, not at all aggressive,
and for that, I was considered effeminate. -
1:09 - 1:13For being how I was,
I was first called "viado," -
1:13 - 1:19which is the bad word people use
for gay people in Brazil, -
1:19 - 1:20the f-word here,
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1:20 - 1:24and also a sissy, "mulherzinha,"
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1:26 - 1:28even before I knew what those meant.
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1:28 - 1:33So, with that, I learned that
if I didn't behave like the other boys, -
1:33 - 1:35I was not part of them.
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1:35 - 1:39Every once in a while,
my father went skydiving with his friends. -
1:39 - 1:42He used to say that heights
were his biggest fear, -
1:42 - 1:45and by doing that, he was facing them.
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1:46 - 1:49So I learned that boys
had to do dangerous things. -
1:49 - 1:52I don't think that was
his biggest fear, though. -
1:52 - 1:57I think his biggest fear
was that I would actually become "viado." -
1:58 - 1:59But he never said that.
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1:59 - 2:03So I learned that boys
not only couldn't be afraid, -
2:03 - 2:04but most importantly,
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2:04 - 2:08they couldn't let others know
about their fears. -
2:08 - 2:11He was very strict with me
because of that. -
2:11 - 2:17I spent my childhood afraid
of not behaving how he expected me to, -
2:17 - 2:22and also afraid of becoming a "gay,"
whatever that was. -
2:22 - 2:24At that time, I just knew it was bad.
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2:24 - 2:26I also feared other boys.
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2:26 - 2:28They were all up in my grill
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2:28 - 2:32for every little thing I did or said
that was not manly. -
2:32 - 2:37So I learned that if I didn't behave
in a masculine way, -
2:37 - 2:40I was automatically considered feminine.
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2:41 - 2:47I lived in a constant state of vigilance,
coming mostly from boys and men. -
2:47 - 2:50Eventually, I became my own vigilante.
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2:50 - 2:55I grew up in this tiny little box
that was so tight, so not my shape, -
2:55 - 2:59that it made my childhood miserable.
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3:00 - 3:04I was a miserable kid and teenager
because I couldn't be myself. -
3:05 - 3:08I couldn't even discover
what myself actually was, -
3:09 - 3:14that myself was not only gay,
which I finally accepted at the age of 19, -
3:14 - 3:16but also queer.
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3:17 - 3:23I did enjoy soccer and cars at first,
but I also wanted to play house and dolls. -
3:23 - 3:28Like any other child, I was curious,
and I wanted to explore everything. -
3:28 - 3:31Initially, there were
no boundaries in my mind. -
3:31 - 3:34I was told about them gradually.
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3:34 - 3:37I stayed away from cars, guns and soccer
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3:37 - 3:41because playing with boys
involved physical and verbal aggressions. -
3:41 - 3:43Being isolated was safer,
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3:43 - 3:48so I isolated myself,
started drawing and writing. -
3:49 - 3:51So I've told you my name is Kris,
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3:51 - 3:55but my whole first name is Krisagon -
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3:55 - 3:57not common in Brazil at all, by the way.
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3:58 - 4:01I grew up in a country that speaks
a Latin-based language, Portuguese. -
4:01 - 4:04We have gendered nouns and adjectives.
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4:04 - 4:06In order to make words
masculine or feminine, -
4:06 - 4:10we add to the end of the word
an "o" for masculine -
4:10 - 4:12or an "a" for feminine.
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4:12 - 4:16Because I was considered
effeminate by other kids, -
4:16 - 4:19one thing they did
with my name to bully me -
4:19 - 4:21was to add an "a" to the end of it.
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4:21 - 4:25So "Krisagon" would become "Krisagona."
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4:25 - 4:28So I learned that in order
to offend another boy, -
4:28 - 4:33all I had to do was call him
anything that resembled a girl, -
4:33 - 4:38and whenever it happened to me,
I should be as offended as possible -
4:38 - 4:39because nothing could be worse
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4:39 - 4:43than being compared to
or to be called a girl. -
4:46 - 4:51Boys' stuff had to be rude,
aggressive, uncaring. -
4:51 - 4:52That was not me,
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4:52 - 4:56so I stayed playing with the girls
or with "girly things." -
4:57 - 4:59And the girls were very welcoming to me,
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4:59 - 5:02but whenever they wanted
to push me away for some reason, -
5:02 - 5:04they just said, "This is a girls' thing."
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5:04 - 5:08So I learned that I wasn't
part of the girls either. -
5:10 - 5:12I had a cousin the same age as me.
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5:12 - 5:15He lived an hour away,
and every once in a while, -
5:15 - 5:18his family came to visit
to spend the weekend. -
5:18 - 5:23Like me, he was also called "viado"
and "mulherzinha," a sissy, -
5:23 - 5:25by other kids.
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5:25 - 5:31Like mine, his family was conservative,
but he had some liberties that I didn't. -
5:31 - 5:36He could role-play as our favorite
children's TV show host, Xuxa. -
5:36 - 5:41He had her official bike and microphone,
both pink, with tassels. -
5:42 - 5:46When I was with him, I was granted
some of those liberties too. -
5:47 - 5:49He could play with dolls.
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5:49 - 5:54I envied him so much
because he must have had so much fun, -
5:54 - 5:59and I could never dream to be that close
to such girly things on my own. -
6:00 - 6:02The dolls were not his, of course.
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6:02 - 6:04They belonged to his female cousins.
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6:04 - 6:08He had some liberties,
but still, not one doll of his own. -
6:09 - 6:14So I learned that boys
couldn't like pink, like dolls, -
6:14 - 6:16or role-play like a parent.
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6:16 - 6:18Only girls could do that.
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6:19 - 6:21All of these rules were there somehow.
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6:21 - 6:26It was like there was
this guidebook for being a boy. -
6:28 - 6:31A lot of those rules were spoken -
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6:31 - 6:32many times forced upon.
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6:32 - 6:34Another whole lot of them
were unspoken, -
6:34 - 6:37but you could feel
that they were still there. -
6:38 - 6:42I had less and less and less identity,
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6:43 - 6:47the more and more rules
were being added to that book, -
6:47 - 6:48such as ...
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6:48 - 6:51The no-crying rule was of course
one of the first ones: -
6:51 - 6:53boys don't cry.
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6:53 - 6:57Boys could not sit or stand
crossing their legs, -
6:57 - 7:00rest their hands on their waist;
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7:00 - 7:03wrists had to be always stiff,
never too loose; -
7:03 - 7:06because those were girly things.
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7:07 - 7:09I could not have my hair long.
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7:10 - 7:16I also learned that I should avoid
anything with the number 24 in my life -
7:16 - 7:19because that was a gay number in Brazil.
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7:20 - 7:22Yes, a gay number.
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7:22 - 7:24(Laughter)
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7:25 - 7:26It still is.
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7:26 - 7:32In Brazilian senate,
offices go from number 23 to 25. -
7:32 - 7:36Soccer players avoid having that number
on the back of their shirts. -
7:37 - 7:41And I also learned that
even though girls could wear pants, -
7:41 - 7:46boys could never, ever,
wear skirts or earrings. -
7:47 - 7:52As a teenager, I learned that in every
new school that I was transferred to, -
7:52 - 7:57I had to kiss a girl as soon as possible,
before people started calling me gay. -
7:58 - 8:01I also learned that
if I didn't speak aggressively, -
8:01 - 8:03I was not feared by the other boys,
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8:03 - 8:09and if I spoke softly, which meant girly,
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8:09 - 8:11I was not respected.
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8:13 - 8:16You probably also had your own book.
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8:16 - 8:18Was it any similar to mine?
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8:19 - 8:21Do you still keep it?
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8:23 - 8:28I remember a summer weekend
my cousin and family came to visit. -
8:29 - 8:33My father and other men were planning
on skydiving that Sunday afternoon. -
8:34 - 8:35The families had picnics
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8:35 - 8:40while watching those brave,
macho men up in the sky. -
8:40 - 8:42That afternoon,
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8:42 - 8:46I saw the perfect opportunity
to play with dolls. -
8:48 - 8:52The mothers prepared the sandwiches.
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8:52 - 8:59My sister was probably realizing by then
that, as a girl, that was her job too. -
9:00 - 9:01Because we were men,
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9:01 - 9:05my cousin, his father
and his older brother and myself -
9:05 - 9:09had to do the chores
that were expected from us: -
9:09 - 9:11none.
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9:11 - 9:13(Laughter)
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9:13 - 9:16So, because of that, we just went playing.
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9:17 - 9:20And with that, I learned that,
because I was a boy, -
9:20 - 9:23I didn't have to do
any cooking or any cleaning. -
9:24 - 9:28My father was thousands
of feet up in the sky, -
9:28 - 9:30being macho,
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9:30 - 9:36facing his fear in order to be praised
by his family for his courage. -
9:36 - 9:40Today I know that all he needed was love.
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9:41 - 9:43Being admired was his way of getting it
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9:43 - 9:47because he didn't know
how to express his feelings. -
9:48 - 9:51My cousin and I went straight
to the cornfields. -
9:51 - 9:53We were on a mission,
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9:53 - 9:59and for that, we would have to use
our creativity and imagination. -
10:00 - 10:04There, the corncobs, still a little green,
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10:04 - 10:08became dolls with beautiful purple hair
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10:08 - 10:12and amazing green and yellow outfits.
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10:13 - 10:17From afar, we were just
playing with corncobs. -
10:17 - 10:22They could just as well be
airplanes, guns, swords. -
10:23 - 10:27We were above any suspicion,
even under my father's eyes, -
10:27 - 10:30who ironically could see
everything from above. -
10:31 - 10:33That was a happy afternoon.
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10:35 - 10:39Oppression can keep us
from discovering who we are. -
10:39 - 10:44Gender stereotypes and sexism
condition our minds, -
10:44 - 10:45how we treat others,
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10:45 - 10:49the biases we have for or against someone.
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10:49 - 10:54It dictates the way we have sex,
regardless of our sexualities. -
10:54 - 10:58It influences our choices
during elections. -
10:58 - 11:02It shapes our identities,
whether you want it or not. -
11:02 - 11:05And I'm not talking about
being gay or being straight. -
11:05 - 11:08I'm talking about not being free.
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11:10 - 11:13In the end of the afternoon,
my father was back. -
11:13 - 11:16His time to play was over,
and so was mine. -
11:17 - 11:18Nothing could incriminate us
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11:18 - 11:23of having played with dolls
and being sissies. -
11:23 - 11:26They were just corncobs
left behind on the ground. -
11:27 - 11:30My cousin and I grew apart over the years.
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11:30 - 11:33I live in Colorado now;
he lives in Estonia. -
11:33 - 11:36Now in our 30s, we are both out and proud.
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11:38 - 11:42Thanks to the internet, I called him
two years ago in order to reconnect. -
11:43 - 11:48I visited him in Estonia,
and we shared our memories and struggles, -
11:48 - 11:53finally being ourselves together
as queer cousins, unapologetically. -
11:54 - 11:58And we had a lot of fun at the karaoke,
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11:58 - 12:02breaking one of those endless rules
in that damn book. -
12:02 - 12:05We sang and danced to the Spice Girls.
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12:05 - 12:06(Laughter)
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12:06 - 12:09(Applause)
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12:14 - 12:15And ...
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12:16 - 12:17I was Baby Spice, by the way.
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12:17 - 12:19(Laughter)
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12:21 - 12:23Even though we progress as a society,
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12:23 - 12:26bullying, because of sexuality
and gay shaming, still exists -
12:26 - 12:28in the US, in Brazil
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12:28 - 12:32and many other countries
where it is not illegal to be gay anymore. -
12:32 - 12:36Bullying can be
one of the causes of trauma, -
12:36 - 12:38and it can intersect with many things.
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12:38 - 12:40Homophobia is one of them.
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12:42 - 12:44At the same time,
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12:44 - 12:47people who grew up
facing oppression like this one -
12:47 - 12:50are often told that in the end of the day,
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12:50 - 12:54those awful experiences
were actually good to build character. -
12:55 - 12:56I've heard that.
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12:56 - 12:59That feels like a little pat
on the shoulder that says, -
12:59 - 13:04"Hey, you went through this awful thing,
but you're well and you're alive." -
13:05 - 13:06Well,
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13:06 - 13:09a lot of queer people are not alive.
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13:09 - 13:14A lot of queer people are alive,
but are they well? -
13:14 - 13:16At what expense?
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13:16 - 13:17Their self-esteem?
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13:17 - 13:19Their mental health?
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13:20 - 13:23Am I and are you really well?
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13:24 - 13:27There should be no shame in saying "No."
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13:29 - 13:31How can you heal from trauma then?
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13:31 - 13:33I can't give you solutions, I'm sorry.
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13:33 - 13:39All I can do is share
my own experience and my story. -
13:40 - 13:43Healing, for me,
has been certainly not easy -
13:43 - 13:47and definitely not
a straight, smooth path. -
13:47 - 13:48And most of all,
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13:48 - 13:54healing from trauma based
on homophobic bullying is not final. -
13:54 - 13:55It is a process.
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13:55 - 13:57Some days, you feel like you've done it.
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13:57 - 14:01Some other days, you just feel
like you're just starting all over again. -
14:01 - 14:05It is frustrating, it's tiring,
but you've got to keep trying. -
14:06 - 14:09Art and therapy
have been helping me a lot. -
14:09 - 14:11Writing my stories and drawing them
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14:11 - 14:16makes me more powerful
than what happened to me as a kid. -
14:16 - 14:22Therapy, which I only started
at the age of 29, -
14:22 - 14:27helps me understand, decompartmentalize
and deal with what happened to me. -
14:28 - 14:33Those bad experiences
get smaller and weaker -
14:33 - 14:36every time I create
a new thing out of them, -
14:36 - 14:38and that includes drag.
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14:39 - 14:43Do you remember my name, Krisagon,
and that bad nickname I got? -
14:43 - 14:46So, as an adult,
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14:46 - 14:50I decided to take something
that had been painful and traumatic for me -
14:50 - 14:51for most of my life,
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14:51 - 14:55and turn it into something
beautiful and creative. -
14:55 - 15:01Me doing drag is that little boy in me
finally being able to play with dolls. -
15:02 - 15:05More than that, I get to be that doll.
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15:05 - 15:08I get to bend the rules,
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15:08 - 15:11or even throw that damn book
out of the window. -
15:11 - 15:16So the persona who is talking to you
right now is Krisa Gonna. -
15:17 - 15:18Nice to meet you.
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15:19 - 15:22(Applause)
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15:28 - 15:31I am not ashamed of that nickname anymore.
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15:31 - 15:35I own it, and I get to make my own rules,
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15:35 - 15:38in or out of drag.
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15:38 - 15:40I hope my bullies
from 1st grade to college -
15:40 - 15:42have found their freedom by now.
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15:42 - 15:46Because, you know, bullies,
they hate other people's freedom. -
15:46 - 15:48That's why they bully.
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15:49 - 15:51It actually depends on them -
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15:51 - 15:53you know, it's not my duty to teach them.
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15:53 - 15:57and they have to realize
that that behavior also hurts them, -
15:57 - 15:59but I hope they watch this.
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16:00 - 16:05Art and psychological therapy
should be accessible resources to everyone -
16:05 - 16:08because everyone needs them.
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16:08 - 16:11We all have work to do on ourselves.
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16:11 - 16:12I know I do.
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16:12 - 16:15After all, I was socialized as a boy.
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16:16 - 16:19My family was the traditional family.
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16:20 - 16:25It was also so fractured
by what we call toxic masculinity. -
16:26 - 16:29Maybe that's what
traditional family actually means. -
16:29 - 16:35I only had compulsory, heterosexual,
supermasculine examples to follow. -
16:35 - 16:39It goes beyond my father,
beyond his father. -
16:41 - 16:46A lot of men go through
different but still conditionings -
16:46 - 16:49of what it means to be a man.
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16:50 - 16:51No wonder today we have,
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16:51 - 16:55statistically speaking
and backed by research, -
16:55 - 16:56less men going to therapy
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16:56 - 17:00because they don't talk about
their feelings, and they don't seek help. -
17:00 - 17:04We have less men feeling they
are naturally equipped to be a good parent -
17:04 - 17:07because that is supposed to be
a woman's role. -
17:07 - 17:11Do you remember who got to play
house and dolls as a kid? -
17:11 - 17:14We have more men dealing with suicide -
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17:14 - 17:18do you remember who was taught to be tough
and not share emotions? - -
17:18 - 17:21inconsequently dealing more
with substance abuse -
17:22 - 17:26as a way to anesthetize their feelings
of fear, anger and sadness. -
17:26 - 17:32Now, I'm not a psychologist,
neither a sociologist nor a social worker. -
17:32 - 17:35I'm just a queer person
socialized as a boy, -
17:35 - 17:37out as gay and queer,
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17:37 - 17:41who trusts scientists and researchers
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17:41 - 17:44who study all these things
I told you about. -
17:44 - 17:46We should all trust them.
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17:46 - 17:50Remember, in our society,
shame comes for free. -
17:50 - 17:54But also remember
you don't have to feel shame -
17:54 - 17:57in order to know what it's like
to be proud of yourself. -
17:58 - 18:04Changing how you raise boys will not
make them heterosexual or homosexual. -
18:04 - 18:09Being allowed and incentivized
to play with multiple kinds of toys -
18:09 - 18:11will only make kids more creative,
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18:11 - 18:15better prepared for
the social challenges in life -
18:15 - 18:19and more accepting of people,
including themselves. -
18:20 - 18:22They will be free.
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18:22 - 18:23Thank you.
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18:23 - 18:24(Applause) (Cheers)
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18:24 - 18:26["Let ME speak, not my scars.
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18:26 - 18:28They are supporting roles;
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18:28 - 18:32no, better yet, sidekicks that didn't even
have to be here." - Emicida]
- Title:
- From shame to pride, and everything in between | Kris Barz Mendonça | TEDxCSU
- Description:
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Homophobia works in different ways around the world, but its modus operandi very often is rooted in misogyny and toxic masculinity. The consequences for queer people are very commonly shame and self-hatred. We need to heal ourselves. Art and therapy can be important tools to deal with PTSD based on homophobic bullying.
Kris Barz Mendonça is a Brazilian Colorado-based queer artist. His body of work includes and merges illustration, comics, storytelling, drag and dance. Through art, he questions, challenges and reinterprets traditional gender roles, hetero-normativity and toxic masculinity, creating his own path to healing trauma caused by compulsory gay shaming and homophobic bullying.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
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- English
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