This mad scientist makes ears out of apples
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0:01 - 0:03I've got a confession.
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0:03 - 0:05I love looking through people's garbage.
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0:06 - 0:08Now, it's not some creepy thing.
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0:08 - 0:10I'm usually just looking
for old electronics, -
0:10 - 0:12stuff I can take to my workshop and hack.
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0:12 - 0:16I do have a fetish for CD-ROM drives.
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0:16 - 0:19Each one's got three different motors,
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0:19 - 0:21so now you can build things that move.
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0:21 - 0:23There's switches so you can
turn things on and off. -
0:23 - 0:25There's even a freaking laser,
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0:25 - 0:30so you can make a cool robot
into an awesome robot. -
0:31 - 0:34Now, I've built
a lot of stuff out of garbage, -
0:34 - 0:37and some of these things
have even been kind of useful. -
0:37 - 0:38But here's the thing,
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0:38 - 0:41for me, garbage is just a chance to play,
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0:41 - 0:44to be creative and build things
to amuse myself. -
0:44 - 0:47This is what I love doing,
so I just made it part of my day job. -
0:47 - 0:50I lead a university-based
biological research lab, -
0:50 - 0:54where we value curiosity
and exploration above all else. -
0:54 - 0:56We aren't focused
on any particular problem, -
0:56 - 0:59and we're not trying to solve
any particular disease. -
0:59 - 1:02This is just a place where people can come
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1:02 - 1:05and ask fascinating questions
and find answers. -
1:05 - 1:07And I realized a long time ago
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1:07 - 1:11that if I challenge people
to build the equipment they need -
1:11 - 1:13out of the garbage I find,
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1:13 - 1:16it's a great way to foster creativity.
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1:16 - 1:17And what happened
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1:17 - 1:20was that artists and scientists
from around the world -
1:20 - 1:22started coming to my lab.
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1:22 - 1:25And it's not just because
we value unconventional ideas, -
1:25 - 1:27it's because we test and validate them
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1:27 - 1:29with scientific rigor.
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1:30 - 1:34So one day I was hacking something,
I was taking it apart, -
1:34 - 1:35and I had this sudden idea:
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1:35 - 1:39Could I treat biology like hardware?
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1:39 - 1:41Could I dismantle a biological system,
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1:41 - 1:43mix and match the parts
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1:43 - 1:46and then put it back together
in some new and creative way? -
1:46 - 1:48My lab started working on this,
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1:48 - 1:50and I want to show you the result.
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1:52 - 1:54Can any of you guys
tell me what fruit this is? -
1:55 - 1:56Audience: Apple!
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1:56 - 1:59Andrew Pelling:
That's right -- it's an apple. -
1:59 - 2:01Now, I actually want you to notice as well
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2:01 - 2:03that this is a lot redder
than most apples. -
2:04 - 2:07And that's because
we grew human cells into it. -
2:07 - 2:11We took a totally innocent
Macintosh apple, -
2:11 - 2:14removed all the apple cells and DNA
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2:14 - 2:16and then implanted human cells.
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2:16 - 2:19And what we're left with
after removing all the apple cells -
2:19 - 2:21is this cellulose scaffold.
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2:21 - 2:24This is the stuff that gives plants
their shape and texture. -
2:24 - 2:26And these little holes that you can see,
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2:26 - 2:29this is where all
the apple cells used to be. -
2:29 - 2:30So then we come along,
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2:30 - 2:34we implant some mammalian cells
that you can see in blue. -
2:34 - 2:36What happens is,
these guys start multiplying -
2:36 - 2:38and they fill up this entire scaffold.
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2:38 - 2:40As weird as this is,
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2:41 - 2:45it's actually really reminiscent
of how our own tissues are organized. -
2:45 - 2:47And we found in our pre-clinical work
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2:47 - 2:50that you can implant
these scaffolds into the body, -
2:50 - 2:52and the body will send in cells
and a blood supply -
2:52 - 2:55and actually keep these things alive.
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2:55 - 2:58This is the point
when people started asking me, -
2:58 - 3:03"Andrew, can you make
body parts out of apples?" -
3:04 - 3:06And I'm like, "You've come
to the right place." -
3:06 - 3:07(Laughter)
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3:08 - 3:10I actually brought this up with my wife.
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3:10 - 3:12She's a musical instrument maker,
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3:12 - 3:14and she does a lot
of wood carving for a living. -
3:15 - 3:16So I asked her,
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3:17 - 3:20"Could you, like,
literally carve some ears -
3:20 - 3:22out of an apple for us?"
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3:22 - 3:23And she did.
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3:23 - 3:26So I took her ears to the lab.
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3:26 - 3:28We then started preparing them.
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3:29 - 3:30Yeah, I know.
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3:30 - 3:33(Laughter)
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3:33 - 3:35It's a good lab, man.
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3:35 - 3:37(Laughter)
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3:37 - 3:38And then we grew cells on them.
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3:39 - 3:40And this is the result.
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3:42 - 3:46Listen, my lab is not
in the ear-manufacturing business. -
3:48 - 3:51People have actually been working
on this for decades. -
3:51 - 3:53Here's the issue:
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3:53 - 3:57commercial scaffolds can be
really expensive and problematic, -
3:57 - 4:00because they're sourced
from proprietary products, -
4:00 - 4:02animals or cadavers.
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4:07 - 4:10We used an apple and it cost pennies.
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4:11 - 4:13What's also really cool here
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4:13 - 4:15is it's not that hard
to make these things. -
4:15 - 4:18The equipment you need
can be built from garbage, -
4:18 - 4:22and the key processing step
only requires soap and water. -
4:23 - 4:27So what we did was put all
the instructions online as open source. -
4:27 - 4:30And then we founded
a mission-driven company, -
4:30 - 4:32and we're developing kits
to make it easier -
4:32 - 4:35for anyone with a sink
and a soldering iron -
4:35 - 4:36to make these things at home.
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4:36 - 4:40What I'm really curious
about is if one day, -
4:40 - 4:45it will be possible to repair, rebuild
and augment our own bodies -
4:46 - 4:48with stuff we make in the kitchen.
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4:49 - 4:51Speaking of kitchens,
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4:51 - 4:53here's some asparagus.
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4:53 - 4:56They're tasty, and they make
your pee smell funny. -
4:56 - 4:57(Laughter)
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4:57 - 5:00Now, I was in my kitchen,
and I was noticing -
5:00 - 5:03that when you look down
the stalks of these asparagus, -
5:03 - 5:06what you can see
are all these tiny little vessels. -
5:06 - 5:07And when we image them in the lab,
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5:07 - 5:10you can see how the cellulose
forms these structures. -
5:11 - 5:13This image reminds me of two things:
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5:14 - 5:16our blood vessels
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5:16 - 5:19and the structure and organization
of our nerves and spinal cord. -
5:20 - 5:21So here's the question:
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5:22 - 5:26Can we grow axons and neurons
down these channels? -
5:26 - 5:28Because if we can,
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5:28 - 5:32then maybe we can use asparagus
to form new connections -
5:32 - 5:35between the ends of damaged
and severed nerves. -
5:36 - 5:37Or maybe even a spinal cord.
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5:38 - 5:39Don't get me wrong --
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5:39 - 5:41this is exceptionally challenging
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5:41 - 5:43and really hard work to do,
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5:43 - 5:46and we are not the only ones
working on this. -
5:46 - 5:49But we are the only ones using asparagus.
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5:49 - 5:52(Laughter)
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5:52 - 5:55Right now, we've got
really promising pilot data. -
5:55 - 5:57And we're working with tissue engineers
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5:57 - 5:58and neurosurgeons
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5:58 - 6:00to find out what's actually possible.
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6:01 - 6:03So listen, all of the work I've shown you,
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6:03 - 6:07the stuff that I've built
that's all around me on this stage -
6:07 - 6:09and the other projects
my lab is involved in -
6:09 - 6:13are all a direct result
of me playing with your garbage. -
6:13 - 6:19Play -- play is a key part
of my scientific practice. -
6:19 - 6:23It's how I train my mind
to be unconventional and to be creative -
6:23 - 6:26and to decide to make human apple ears.
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6:26 - 6:31So, the next time any of you
are looking at some old, -
6:31 - 6:36broken-down, malfunctioning,
piece-of-crap technology, -
6:36 - 6:37I want you to think of me.
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6:38 - 6:39Because I want it.
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6:39 - 6:41(Laughter)
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6:41 - 6:45Seriously, please find any way
to get in touch with me, -
6:45 - 6:47and let's see what we can build.
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6:47 - 6:48Thank you.
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6:48 - 6:52(Applause)
- Title:
- This mad scientist makes ears out of apples
- Speaker:
- Andrew Pelling
- Description:
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Andrew Pelling speaks at TED2016
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 07:05
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