A tale of two political systems
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0:00 - 0:02Good morning.
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0:02 - 0:07My name is Eric Li, and I was born here.
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0:07 - 0:09But no, I wasn't born there.
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0:09 - 0:12This was where I was born:
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0:12 - 0:16Shanghai, at the height of the Cultural Revolution.
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0:16 - 0:17My grandmother tells me that she heard
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0:17 - 0:21the sound of gunfire along with my first cries.
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0:21 - 0:24When I was growing up, I was told a story
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0:24 - 0:28that explained all I ever needed to know about humanity.
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0:28 - 0:29It went like this.
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0:29 - 0:33All human societies develop in linear progression,
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0:33 - 0:36beginning with primitive society, then slave society,
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0:36 - 0:39feudalism, capitalism, socialism,
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0:39 - 0:42and finally, guess where we end up?
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0:42 - 0:45Communism!
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0:45 - 0:49Sooner or later, all of humanity,
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0:49 - 0:51regardless of culture, language, nationality,
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0:51 - 0:54will arrive at this final stage
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0:54 - 0:56of political and social development.
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0:56 - 0:58The entire world's peoples will be unified
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0:58 - 1:01in this paradise on Earth
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1:01 - 1:03and live happily ever after.
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1:03 - 1:06But before we get there, we're engaged
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1:06 - 1:08in a struggle between good and evil,
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1:08 - 1:11the good of socialism against the evil of capitalism,
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1:11 - 1:13and the good shall triumph.
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1:13 - 1:16That, of course, was the meta-narrative
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1:16 - 1:19distilled from the theories of Karl Marx.
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1:19 - 1:21And the Chinese bought it.
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1:21 - 1:24We were taught that grand story day in and day out.
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1:24 - 1:27It became part of us, and we believed in it.
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1:27 - 1:29The story was a bestseller.
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1:29 - 1:31About one third of the entire world's population
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1:31 - 1:34lived under that meta-narrative.
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1:34 - 1:37Then, the world changed overnight.
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1:37 - 1:40As for me, disillusioned by the failed religion of my youth,
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1:40 - 1:43I went to America and became a Berkeley hippie.
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1:43 - 1:47(Laughter)
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1:47 - 1:50Now, as I was coming of age, something else happened.
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1:50 - 1:52As if one big story wasn't enough,
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1:52 - 1:55I was told another one.
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1:55 - 1:58This one was just as grand.
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1:58 - 2:00It also claims that all human societies
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2:00 - 2:04develop in a linear progression towards a singular end.
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2:04 - 2:07This one went as follows:
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2:07 - 2:09All societies, regardless of culture,
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2:09 - 2:12be it Christian, Muslim, Confucian,
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2:12 - 2:14must progress from traditional societies
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2:14 - 2:17in which groups are the basic units
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2:17 - 2:21to modern societies in which atomized individuals
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2:21 - 2:22are the sovereign units,
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2:22 - 2:26and all these individuals are, by definition, rational,
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2:26 - 2:28and they all want one thing:
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2:28 - 2:30the vote.
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2:30 - 2:33Because they are all rational, once given the vote,
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2:33 - 2:34they produce good government
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2:34 - 2:37and live happily ever after.
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2:37 - 2:40Paradise on Earth, again.
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2:40 - 2:43Sooner or later, electoral democracy will be
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2:43 - 2:47the only political system for all countries and all peoples,
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2:47 - 2:49with a free market to make them all rich.
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2:49 - 2:53But before we get there, we're engaged in a struggle
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2:53 - 2:54between good and evil.
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2:54 - 2:56(Laughter)
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2:56 - 2:58The good belongs to those who are democracies
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2:58 - 3:00and are charged with a mission of spreading it
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3:00 - 3:04around the globe, sometimes by force,
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3:04 - 3:07against the evil of those who do not hold elections.
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3:07 - 3:09(Video) George H.W. Bush: A new world order ...
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3:09 - 3:11(Video) George W. Bush: ... ending tyranny in our world ...
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3:11 - 3:13(Video) Barack Obama: ... a single standard for all
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3:13 - 3:16who would hold power.
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3:16 - 3:18Eric X. Li: Now --
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3:18 - 3:26(Laughter) (Applause)
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3:26 - 3:30This story also became a bestseller.
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3:30 - 3:32According to Freedom House,
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3:32 - 3:35the number of democracies went from 45 in 1970
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3:35 - 3:37to 115 in 2010.
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3:37 - 3:40In the last 20 years, Western elites tirelessly
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3:40 - 3:44trotted around the globe selling this prospectus:
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3:44 - 3:46Multiple parties fight for political power
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3:46 - 3:48and everyone voting on them
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3:48 - 3:50is the only path to salvation
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3:50 - 3:53to the long-suffering developing world.
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3:53 - 3:56Those who buy the prospectus are destined for success.
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3:56 - 3:59Those who do not are doomed to fail.
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3:59 - 4:02But this time, the Chinese didn't buy it.
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4:02 - 4:05Fool me once ...
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4:05 - 4:09(Laughter)
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4:09 - 4:11The rest is history.
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4:11 - 4:13In just 30 years, China went from
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4:13 - 4:15one of the poorest agricultural countries in the world
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4:15 - 4:18to its second-largest economy.
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4:18 - 4:20Six hundred fifty million people
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4:20 - 4:21were lifted out of poverty.
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4:21 - 4:24Eighty percent of the entire world's poverty alleviation
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4:24 - 4:26during that period happened in China.
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4:26 - 4:29In other words, all the new and old democracies
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4:29 - 4:32put together amounted to a mere fraction
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4:32 - 4:37of what a single, one-party state did without voting.
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4:37 - 4:41See, I grew up on this stuff: food stamps.
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4:41 - 4:43Meat was rationed to a few hundred grams
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4:43 - 4:45per person per month at one point.
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4:45 - 4:49Needless to say, I ate all my grandmother's portions.
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4:49 - 4:53So I asked myself, what's wrong with this picture?
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4:53 - 4:55Here I am in my hometown,
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4:55 - 4:57my business growing leaps and bounds.
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4:57 - 4:59Entrepreneurs are starting companies every day.
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4:59 - 5:02Middle class is expanding in speed and scale
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5:02 - 5:04unprecedented in human history.
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5:04 - 5:07Yet, according to the grand story,
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5:07 - 5:10none of this should be happening.
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5:10 - 5:13So I went and did the only thing I could. I studied it.
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5:13 - 5:15Yes, China is a one-party state
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5:15 - 5:19run by the Chinese Communist Party, the Party,
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5:19 - 5:21and they don't hold elections.
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5:21 - 5:23Three assumptions are made
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5:23 - 5:26by the dominant political theories of our time.
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5:26 - 5:29Such a system is operationally rigid,
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5:29 - 5:33politically closed, and morally illegitimate.
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5:33 - 5:36Well, the assumptions are wrong.
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5:36 - 5:38The opposites are true.
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5:38 - 5:41Adaptability, meritocracy, and legitimacy
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5:41 - 5:43are the three defining characteristics
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5:43 - 5:46of China's one-party system.
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5:46 - 5:47Now, most political scientists will tell us
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5:47 - 5:51that a one-party system is inherently incapable
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5:51 - 5:53of self-correction.
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5:53 - 5:55It won't last long because it cannot adapt.
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5:55 - 5:57Now here are the facts.
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5:57 - 6:00In 64 years of running the largest country in the world,
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6:00 - 6:03the range of the Party's policies has been wider
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6:03 - 6:06than any other country in recent memory,
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6:06 - 6:10from radical land collectivization to the Great Leap Forward,
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6:10 - 6:13then privatization of farmland,
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6:13 - 6:15then the Cultural Revolution,
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6:15 - 6:18then Deng Xiaoping's market reform,
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6:18 - 6:21then successor Jiang Zemin took the giant political step
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6:21 - 6:24of opening up Party membership to private businesspeople,
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6:24 - 6:27something unimaginable during Mao's rule.
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6:27 - 6:31So the Party self-corrects in rather dramatic fashions.
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6:31 - 6:34Institutionally, new rules get enacted
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6:34 - 6:36to correct previous dysfunctions.
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6:36 - 6:38For example, term limits.
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6:38 - 6:41Political leaders used to retain their positions for life,
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6:41 - 6:42and they used that to accumulate power
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6:42 - 6:44and perpetuate their rules.
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6:44 - 6:47Mao was the father of modern China,
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6:47 - 6:49yet his prolonged rule led to disastrous mistakes.
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6:49 - 6:52So the Party instituted term limits
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6:52 - 6:55with mandatory retirement age of 68 to 70.
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6:55 - 6:58One thing we often hear is,
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6:58 - 7:01"Political reforms have lagged far behind economic reforms,"
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7:01 - 7:04and "China is in dire need of political reform."
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7:04 - 7:07But this claim is a rhetorical trap
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7:07 - 7:10hidden behind a political bias.
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7:10 - 7:12See, some have decided a priori
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7:12 - 7:14what kinds of changes they want to see,
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7:14 - 7:18and only such changes can be called political reform.
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7:18 - 7:21The truth is, political reforms have never stopped.
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7:21 - 7:24Compared with 30 years ago, 20 years, even 10 years ago,
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7:24 - 7:26every aspect of Chinese society,
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7:26 - 7:27how the country is governed,
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7:27 - 7:29from the most local level to the highest center,
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7:29 - 7:32are unrecognizable today.
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7:32 - 7:35Now such changes are simply not possible
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7:35 - 7:39without political reforms of the most fundamental kind.
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7:39 - 7:41Now I would venture to suggest the Party
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7:41 - 7:45is the world's leading expert in political reform.
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7:45 - 7:48The second assumption is that in a one-party state,
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7:48 - 7:51power gets concentrated in the hands of the few,
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7:51 - 7:53and bad governance and corruption follow.
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7:53 - 7:56Indeed, corruption is a big problem,
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7:56 - 7:58but let's first look at the larger context.
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7:58 - 8:00Now, this may be counterintuitive to you.
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8:00 - 8:03The Party happens to be one of the most meritocratic
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8:03 - 8:06political institutions in the world today.
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8:06 - 8:10China's highest ruling body, the Politburo, has 25 members.
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8:10 - 8:12In the most recent one, only five of them
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8:12 - 8:15came from a background of privilege, so-called princelings.
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8:15 - 8:18The other 20, including the president and the premier,
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8:18 - 8:21came from entirely ordinary backgrounds.
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8:21 - 8:23In the larger central committee of 300 or more,
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8:23 - 8:25the percentage of those who were born
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8:25 - 8:27into power and wealth was even smaller.
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8:27 - 8:30The vast majority of senior Chinese leaders
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8:30 - 8:33worked and competed their way to the top.
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8:33 - 8:35Compare that with the ruling elites
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8:35 - 8:37in both developed and developing countries,
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8:37 - 8:40I think you'll find the Party being near the top
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8:40 - 8:42in upward mobility.
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8:42 - 8:45The question then is, how could that be possible
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8:45 - 8:48in a system run by one party?
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8:48 - 8:51Now we come to a powerful political institution,
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8:51 - 8:52little-known to Westerners:
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8:52 - 8:55the Party's Organization Department.
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8:55 - 8:57The department functions like a giant
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8:57 - 9:00human resource engine that would be the envy
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9:00 - 9:03of even some of the most successful corporations.
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9:03 - 9:05It operates a rotating pyramid
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9:05 - 9:07made up of three components:
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9:07 - 9:09civil service, state-owned enterprises,
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9:09 - 9:11and social organizations like a university
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9:11 - 9:14or a community program.
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9:14 - 9:16They form separate yet integrated career paths
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9:16 - 9:18for Chinese officials.
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9:18 - 9:21They recruit college grads into entry-level positions
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9:21 - 9:24in all three tracks, and they start from the bottom,
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9:24 - 9:25called "keyuan" [clerk].
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9:25 - 9:27Then they could get promoted
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9:27 - 9:32through four increasingly elite ranks:
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9:32 - 9:35fuke [deputy section manager], ke [section manager], fuchu [deputy division manager], and chu [division manger].
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9:35 - 9:37Now these are not moves from "Karate Kid," okay?
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9:37 - 9:41It's serious business.
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9:41 - 9:43The range of positions is wide,
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9:43 - 9:45from running health care in a village
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9:45 - 9:47to foreign investment in a city district
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9:47 - 9:49to manager in a company.
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9:49 - 9:52Once a year, the department reviews their performance.
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9:52 - 9:54They interview their superiors, their peers,
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9:54 - 9:57their subordinates. They vet their personal conduct.
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9:57 - 9:59They conduct public opinion surveys.
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9:59 - 10:01Then they promote the winners.
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10:01 - 10:02Throughout their careers, these cadres
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10:02 - 10:06can move through and out of all three tracks.
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10:06 - 10:08Over time, the good ones move beyond the four base levels
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10:08 - 10:11to the fuju [deputy bureau chief] and ju [bureau chief] levels.
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10:11 - 10:14There, they enter high officialdom.
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10:14 - 10:16By that point, a typical assignment will be
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10:16 - 10:19to manage a district with a population in the millions
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10:19 - 10:23or a company with hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue.
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10:23 - 10:26Just to show you how competitive the system is,
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10:26 - 10:30in 2012, there were 900,000 fuke and ke levels,
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10:30 - 10:33600,000 fuchu and chu levels,
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10:33 - 10:36and only 40,000 fuju and ju levels.
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10:36 - 10:38After the ju levels,
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10:38 - 10:41the best few move further up several more ranks,
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10:41 - 10:44and eventually make it to the Central Committee.
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10:44 - 10:47The process takes two to three decades.
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10:47 - 10:50Does patronage play a role? Yes, of course.
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10:50 - 10:53But merit remains the fundamental driver.
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10:53 - 10:56In essence, the Organization Department runs
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10:56 - 10:58a modernized version of China's centuries-old
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10:58 - 11:00mentoring system.
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11:00 - 11:03China's new president, Xi Jinping,
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11:03 - 11:05is the son of a former leader, which is very unusual,
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11:05 - 11:07first of his kind to make the top job.
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11:07 - 11:10Even for him, the career took 30 years.
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11:10 - 11:12He started as a village manager,
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11:12 - 11:14and by the time he entered the Politburo,
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11:14 - 11:16he had managed areas with a total population
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11:16 - 11:18of 150 million people
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11:18 - 11:22and combined GDPs of 1.5 trillion U.S. dollars.
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11:22 - 11:25Now, please don't get me wrong, okay?
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11:25 - 11:28This is not a put-down of anyone. It's just a statement of fact.
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11:28 - 11:32George W. Bush, remember him?
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11:32 - 11:34This is not a put-down.
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11:34 - 11:35(Laughter)
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11:35 - 11:38Before becoming governor of Texas,
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11:38 - 11:41or Barack Obama before running for president,
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11:41 - 11:43could not make even a small county manager
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11:43 - 11:45in China's system.
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11:45 - 11:47Winston Churchill once said that democracy
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11:47 - 11:50is a terrible system except for all the rest.
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11:50 - 11:54Well, apparently he hadn't heard of the Organization Department.
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11:54 - 11:56Now, Westerners always assume that
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11:56 - 11:59multi-party election with universal suffrage
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11:59 - 12:02is the only source of political legitimacy.
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12:02 - 12:06I was asked once, "The Party wasn't voted in by election.
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12:06 - 12:08Where is the source of legitimacy?"
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12:08 - 12:12I said, "How about competency?"
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12:12 - 12:13We all know the facts.
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12:13 - 12:15In 1949, when the Party took power,
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12:15 - 12:18China was mired in civil wars, dismembered by foreign aggression,
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12:18 - 12:23average life expectancy at that time, 41 years old.
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12:23 - 12:26Today, it's the second largest economy in the world,
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12:26 - 12:28an industrial powerhouse, and its people live
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12:28 - 12:30in increasing prosperity.
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12:30 - 12:33Pew Research polls Chinese public attitudes,
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12:33 - 12:35and here are the numbers in recent years.
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12:35 - 12:40Satisfaction with the direction of the country: 85 percent.
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12:40 - 12:42Those who think they're better off than five years ago:
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12:42 - 12:4470 percent.
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12:44 - 12:47Those who expect the future to be better:
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12:47 - 12:50a whopping 82 percent.
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12:50 - 12:53Financial Times polls global youth attitudes,
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12:53 - 12:56and these numbers, brand new, just came from last week.
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12:56 - 12:59Ninety-three percent of China's Generation Y
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12:59 - 13:02are optimistic about their country's future.
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13:02 - 13:08Now, if this is not legitimacy, I'm not sure what is.
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13:08 - 13:11In contrast, most electoral democracies around the world
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13:11 - 13:13are suffering from dismal performance.
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13:13 - 13:15I don't need to elaborate for this audience
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13:15 - 13:20how dysfunctional it is, from Washington to European capitals.
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13:20 - 13:23With a few exceptions, the vast number
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13:23 - 13:25of developing countries that have adopted electoral regimes
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13:25 - 13:29are still suffering from poverty and civil strife.
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13:29 - 13:31Governments get elected, and then they fall
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13:31 - 13:34below 50 percent approval in a few months
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13:34 - 13:38and stay there and get worse until the next election.
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13:38 - 13:40Democracy is becoming a perpetual cycle
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13:40 - 13:42of elect and regret.
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13:42 - 13:46At this rate, I'm afraid it is democracy,
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13:46 - 13:48not China's one-party system, that is in danger
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13:48 - 13:51of losing legitimacy.
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13:51 - 13:54Now, I don't want to create the misimpression
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13:54 - 13:56that China's hunky-dory, on the way
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13:56 - 13:57to some kind of superpowerdom.
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13:57 - 14:00The country faces enormous challenges.
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14:00 - 14:02The social and economic problems that come
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14:02 - 14:06with wrenching change like this are mind-boggling.
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14:06 - 14:10Pollution is one. Food safety. Population issues.
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14:10 - 14:14On the political front, the worst problem is corruption.
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14:14 - 14:17Corruption is widespread and undermines the system
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14:17 - 14:18and its moral legitimacy.
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14:18 - 14:21But most analysts misdiagnose the disease.
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14:21 - 14:24They say that corruption is the result of the one-party system,
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14:24 - 14:26and therefore, in order to cure it,
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14:26 - 14:28you have to do away with the entire system.
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14:28 - 14:31But a more careful look would tell us otherwise.
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14:31 - 14:34Transparency International ranks China
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14:34 - 14:37between 70 and 80 in recent years among 170 countries,
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14:37 - 14:40and it's been moving up.
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14:40 - 14:42India, the largest democracy in the world,
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14:42 - 14:4494 and dropping.
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14:44 - 14:46For the hundred or so countries that are ranked below China,
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14:46 - 14:49more than half of them are electoral democracies.
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14:49 - 14:53So if election is the panacea for corruption,
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14:53 - 14:56how come these countries can't fix it?
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14:56 - 14:59Now, I'm a venture capitalist. I make bets.
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14:59 - 15:02It wouldn't be fair to end this talk without
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15:02 - 15:04putting myself on the line and making some predictions.
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15:04 - 15:06So here they are.
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15:06 - 15:09In the next 10 years, China will surpass the U.S.
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15:09 - 15:11and become the largest economy in the world.
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15:11 - 15:13Income per capita will be near the top
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15:13 - 15:16of all developing countries.
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15:16 - 15:18Corruption will be curbed, but not eliminated,
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15:18 - 15:20and China will move up 10 to 20 notches
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15:20 - 15:23to above 60 in T.I. ranking.
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15:23 - 15:26Economic reform will accelerate, political reform will continue,
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15:26 - 15:30and the one-party system will hold firm.
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15:30 - 15:33We live in the dusk of an era.
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15:33 - 15:36Meta-narratives that make universal claims
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15:36 - 15:38failed us in the 20th century
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15:38 - 15:41and are failing us in the 21st.
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15:41 - 15:43Meta-narrative is the cancer
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15:43 - 15:46that is killing democracy from the inside.
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15:46 - 15:48Now, I want to clarify something.
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15:48 - 15:50I'm not here to make an indictment of democracy.
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15:50 - 15:53On the contrary, I think democracy contributed
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15:53 - 15:56to the rise of the West and the creation of the modern world.
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15:56 - 15:59It is the universal claim that many Western elites
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15:59 - 16:03are making about their political system, the hubris,
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16:03 - 16:06that is at the heart of the West's current ills.
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16:06 - 16:08If they would spend just a little less time
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16:08 - 16:11on trying to force their way onto others,
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16:11 - 16:14and a little bit more on political reform at home,
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16:14 - 16:18they might give their democracy a better chance.
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16:18 - 16:20China's political model will never supplant
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16:20 - 16:22electoral democracy, because unlike the latter,
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16:22 - 16:24it doesn't pretend to be universal.
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16:24 - 16:28It cannot be exported. But that is the point precisely.
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16:28 - 16:31The significance of China's example
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16:31 - 16:33is not that it provides an alternative,
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16:33 - 16:37but the demonstration that alternatives exist.
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16:37 - 16:41Let us draw to a close this era of meta-narratives.
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16:41 - 16:44Communism and democracy may both be laudable ideals,
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16:44 - 16:48but the era of their dogmatic universalism is over.
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16:48 - 16:51Let us stop telling people and our children
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16:51 - 16:53there's only one way to govern ourselves
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16:53 - 16:55and a singular future towards which
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16:55 - 16:57all societies must evolve.
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16:57 - 17:00It is wrong. It is irresponsible.
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17:00 - 17:04And worst of all, it is boring.
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17:04 - 17:08Let universality make way for plurality.
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17:08 - 17:11Perhaps a more interesting age is upon us.
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17:11 - 17:13Are we brave enough to welcome it?
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17:13 - 17:15Thank you.
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17:15 - 17:31(Applause)
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17:31 - 17:34Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks.
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17:34 - 17:37Bruno Giussani: Eric, stay with me for a couple of minutes,
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17:37 - 17:39because I want to ask you a couple of questions.
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17:39 - 17:43I think many here, and in general in Western countries,
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17:43 - 17:46would agree with your statement about analysis
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17:46 - 17:49of democratic systems becoming dysfunctional,
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17:49 - 17:52but at the same time, many would kind of find
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17:52 - 17:56unsettling the thought that there is an unelected
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17:56 - 18:01authority that, without any form of oversight or consultation,
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18:01 - 18:04decides what the national interest is.
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18:04 - 18:07What is the mechanism in the Chinese model
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18:07 - 18:09that allows people to say, actually,
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18:09 - 18:12the national interest as you defined it is wrong?
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18:12 - 18:16EXL: You know, Frank Fukuyama, the political scientist,
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18:16 - 18:20called the Chinese system "responsive authoritarianism."
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18:20 - 18:23It's not exactly right, but I think it comes close.
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18:23 - 18:27So I know the largest public opinion survey company
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18:27 - 18:29in China, okay?
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18:29 - 18:31Do you know who their biggest client is?
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18:31 - 18:33The Chinese government.
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18:33 - 18:36Not just from the central government,
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18:36 - 18:37the city government, the provincial government,
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18:37 - 18:39to the most local neighborhood districts.
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18:39 - 18:41They conduct surveys all the time.
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18:41 - 18:44Are you happy with the garbage collection?
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18:44 - 18:46Are you happy with the general direction of the country?
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18:46 - 18:49So there is, in China, there is a different kind of mechanism
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18:49 - 18:53to be responsive to the demands and the thinking of the people.
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18:53 - 18:56My point is, I think we should get unstuck
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18:56 - 18:59from the thinking that there's only one political system --
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18:59 - 19:00election, election, election --
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19:00 - 19:02that could make it responsive.
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19:02 - 19:04I'm not sure, actually, elections produce
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19:04 - 19:07responsive government anymore in the world.
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19:07 - 19:11(Applause)
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19:11 - 19:13BG: Many seem to agree.
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19:13 - 19:15One of the features of a democratic system
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19:15 - 19:19is a space for civil society to express itself.
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19:19 - 19:21And you have shown figures about the support
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19:21 - 19:24that the government and the authorities have in China.
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19:24 - 19:27But then you've just mentioned other elements
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19:27 - 19:29like, you know, big challenges, and there are, of course,
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19:29 - 19:32a lot of other data that go in a different direction:
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19:32 - 19:35tens of thousands of unrests and protests
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19:35 - 19:38and environmental protests, etc.
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19:38 - 19:41So you seem to suggest the Chinese model
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19:41 - 19:43doesn't have a space outside of the Party
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19:43 - 19:45for civil society to express itself.
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19:45 - 19:49EXL: There's a vibrant civil society in China,
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19:49 - 19:51whether it's environment or what-have-you.
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19:51 - 19:53But it's different. You wouldn't recognize it.
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19:53 - 19:56Because, by Western definitions, a so-called civil society
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19:56 - 19:59has to be separate or even in opposition
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19:59 - 20:01to the political system,
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20:01 - 20:05but that concept is alien for Chinese culture.
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20:05 - 20:08For thousands of years, you have civil society,
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20:08 - 20:10yet they are consistent and coherent
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20:10 - 20:13and part of a political order, and I think
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20:13 - 20:17it's a big cultural difference.
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20:17 - 20:20BG: Eric, thank you for sharing this with TED.
EXL: Thank you.
- Title:
- A tale of two political systems
- Speaker:
- Eric X. Li
- Description:
-
It's a standard assumption in the West: As a society progresses, it eventually becomes a capitalist, multi-party democracy. Right? Eric X. Li, a Chinese investor and political scientist, begs to differ. In this provocative, boundary-pushing talk, he asks his audience to consider that there's more than one way to run a successful modern nation.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 20:37
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