The intricate economics of terrorism
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0:01 - 0:03I'm going to show you how terrorism
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0:03 - 0:06actually interacts with our daily life.
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0:06 - 0:1015 years ago I received a phone call from a friend.
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0:10 - 0:13At the time he was looking after the rights of political prisoners
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0:13 - 0:16in Italian jails.
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0:16 - 0:20He asked me if I wanted to interview the Red Brigades.
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0:20 - 0:22Now, as many of you may remember,
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0:22 - 0:26the Red Brigades was a terrorist, Marxist organization
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0:26 - 0:28which was very active in Italy
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0:28 - 0:32from the 1960s until the mid-1980s.
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0:32 - 0:34As part of their strategy
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0:34 - 0:38the Red Brigades never spoke with anybody, not even with their lawyers.
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0:38 - 0:42They sat in silence through their trails,
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0:42 - 0:46waving occasionally at family and friends.
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0:46 - 0:52In 1993 they declared the end of the armed struggle.
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0:52 - 0:54And they drew a list of people with whom they would talk,
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0:54 - 0:56and tell their story.
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0:56 - 0:59And I was one of those people.
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0:59 - 1:02When I asked my friend why the Red Brigades want to talk to me,
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1:02 - 1:06he said that the female members of the organization
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1:06 - 1:09had actually supported my name.
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1:09 - 1:12In particular, one person had put it forward.
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1:12 - 1:15She was my childhood friend.
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1:15 - 1:17She had joined the Red Brigades
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1:17 - 1:20and became a leader of the organization.
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1:20 - 1:22Naturally, I didn't know that
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1:22 - 1:24until the day she was arrested.
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1:24 - 1:28In fact, I read it in the newspaper.
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1:28 - 1:30At the time of the phone call
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1:30 - 1:32I just had a baby,
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1:32 - 1:34I successfully completed a management buyout
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1:34 - 1:37to the company I was working with,
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1:37 - 1:40and the last thing I wanted to do was to go back home
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1:40 - 1:43and touring the high-security prisons.
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1:43 - 1:46But this is exactly what I did
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1:46 - 1:48because I wanted to know
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1:48 - 1:50what had turned my best friend
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1:50 - 1:52into a terrorist,
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1:52 - 1:56and why she'd never tried to recruit me.
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1:56 - 1:58(Laughter)
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1:58 - 2:01(Applause)
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2:01 - 2:06So, this is exactly what I did.
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2:06 - 2:10Now, I found the answer very quickly.
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2:10 - 2:12I actually had failed
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2:12 - 2:15the psychological profiling of a terrorist.
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2:15 - 2:17The center committee of the Red Brigades
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2:17 - 2:19had judged me too single-minded
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2:19 - 2:23and too opinionated to become a good terrorist.
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2:23 - 2:26My friend, on the other hand, she was a good terrorist
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2:26 - 2:29because she was very good at following orders.
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2:29 - 2:32She also embraced violence.
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2:32 - 2:34Because she believed that the only way
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2:34 - 2:37to unblock what, at the time,
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2:37 - 2:39was known as a blocked democracy,
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2:39 - 2:43Italy, a country run by the same party for 35 years
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2:43 - 2:47was the arms struggle.
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2:47 - 2:50At the same time, while I was interviewing the Red Brigades,
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2:50 - 2:53I also discovered that their life was not ruled
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2:53 - 2:56by politics or ideology,
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2:56 - 2:59but actually was ruled by economics.
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2:59 - 3:02They were constantly short of cash.
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3:02 - 3:05They were constantly searching for cash.
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3:05 - 3:07Now, contrary to what many people believe,
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3:07 - 3:11terrorism is actually a very expensive business.
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3:11 - 3:13I'll give you an idea.
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3:13 - 3:18In the 1970s, the turnover of the Red Brigades
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3:18 - 3:20on a yearly basis
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3:20 - 3:22was seven million dollars.
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3:22 - 3:24This is roughly between 100
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3:24 - 3:26and 150 million, today.
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3:26 - 3:29Now, you know, if you live underground
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3:29 - 3:34it's really hard to produce this amount of money.
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3:34 - 3:38But this also explains why, when I was interviewing the Red Brigades,
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3:38 - 3:41and then, later on, other arms organizations,
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3:41 - 3:46including members of al-Zarqawi group in the Middle East,
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3:46 - 3:49everybody was extremely reluctant
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3:49 - 3:52to talk about ideology, or politics.
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3:52 - 3:54Because they had no idea.
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3:54 - 3:58The political vision of a terrorist organization
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3:58 - 4:01is decided by the leadership,
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4:01 - 4:04which, generally, is never more than five to seven people.
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4:04 - 4:07All the others do, day in and day out,
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4:07 - 4:09is search for money.
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4:09 - 4:11Once, for example, I was interviewing
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4:11 - 4:14this part-timer from the Red Brigades.
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4:14 - 4:16It was a psychiatrist. He loved sailing.
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4:16 - 4:20He was a really keen sailor. And he had this beautiful boat.
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4:20 - 4:22And he told me that the best time of his life
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4:22 - 4:25was when he was a member of the Red Brigades
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4:25 - 4:27and he went sailing, every summer, back and forth
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4:27 - 4:29from Lebanon, where he would pick up
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4:29 - 4:31Soviet weapons from the PLO,
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4:31 - 4:34and then carry them all the way to Sardinia
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4:34 - 4:37where the other arms organization from Europe would go
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4:37 - 4:40and take their share of the arms.
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4:40 - 4:44For that service the Red Brigades were actually paid a fee,
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4:44 - 4:47which went to fund their organization.
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4:47 - 4:50So, because I am a trained economist
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4:50 - 4:52and I think in economic terms,
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4:52 - 4:54all of the sudden I thought,
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4:54 - 4:56maybe there is something here.
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4:56 - 4:58Maybe there is a link, a commercial link,
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4:58 - 5:02between one organization and another one.
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5:02 - 5:05But it was only when I interviewed
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5:05 - 5:09Mario Moretti, the head of the Red Brigades,
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5:09 - 5:12the man who kidnapped and killed Aldo Moro,
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5:12 - 5:15Italian former prime minister,
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5:15 - 5:17that I finally realized
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5:17 - 5:20that terrorism is actually business.
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5:20 - 5:22I was having lunch with him
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5:22 - 5:24in a high-security prison in Italy.
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5:24 - 5:27And as we were eating,
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5:27 - 5:29I had the distinct feeling
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5:29 - 5:32that I was back in the city of London,
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5:32 - 5:36having lunch with a fellow banker or an economist.
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5:36 - 5:40This guy thought in the same way I did.
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5:40 - 5:46So, I decided that I wanted to investigate the economics of terrorism.
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5:46 - 5:50Naturally, nobody wanted to fund my research.
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5:50 - 5:52In fact, I think many people thought that I was a bit crazy.
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5:52 - 5:55You know, that woman that goes around to foundations
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5:55 - 5:59asking for money, thinking about the economics of terrorism.
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5:59 - 6:02So, in the end, I took a decision
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6:02 - 6:05that, in retrospect, did change my life.
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6:05 - 6:07I sold my company,
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6:07 - 6:10and funded the research myself.
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6:10 - 6:12And what I discovered
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6:12 - 6:14is this parallel reality,
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6:14 - 6:18another international economic system,
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6:18 - 6:21which runs parallel to our own,
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6:21 - 6:23which has been created by arms organizations
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6:23 - 6:25since the end of World War II.
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6:25 - 6:27And what is even more shocking
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6:27 - 6:31is that this system
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6:31 - 6:34has followed, step by step, the evolution
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6:34 - 6:36of our own system,
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6:36 - 6:38of our Western capitalism.
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6:38 - 6:41And there are three main stages.
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6:41 - 6:44The first one is the state sponsor of terrorism.
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6:44 - 6:47The second one is the privatization of terrorism.
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6:47 - 6:51And the third, of course, is the globalization of terrorism.
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6:51 - 6:54So, state sponsor of terrorism,
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6:54 - 6:56feature of the Cold War.
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6:56 - 6:58This is when the two superpowers were fighting
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6:58 - 7:00a war by proxy,
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7:00 - 7:03along the periphery of the sphere of influence,
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7:03 - 7:06fully funding arms organizations.
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7:06 - 7:09A mix of legal and illegal activities is used.
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7:09 - 7:12So, the link between crime and terror
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7:12 - 7:15is established very early on.
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7:15 - 7:17And here is the best example,
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7:17 - 7:20the Contras in Nicaragua, created by the CIA,
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7:20 - 7:23legally funded by the U.S. Congress,
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7:23 - 7:26illegally funded by the Reagan administration
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7:26 - 7:32via covert operation, for example, the Iran-Contra Affair.
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7:32 - 7:35Then comes the late 1970s, early '80s,
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7:35 - 7:38and some groups successfully carry out
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7:38 - 7:40the privatization of terrorism.
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7:40 - 7:43So, they gain independence from the sponsor,
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7:43 - 7:47and start funding themselves.
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7:47 - 7:52Now, again we see a mix of legal and illegal activities.
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7:52 - 7:55So, Arafat used to get a percentage
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7:55 - 7:58of the smuggling of hashish
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7:58 - 8:02from Bekáa Valley, which is the valley between Lebanon and Syria.
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8:02 - 8:06And the IRA, which control the private transportation system
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8:06 - 8:09in Northern Ireland, did exactly the same thing.
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8:09 - 8:11So, every single time
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8:11 - 8:14that somebody got into a taxi in Belfast
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8:14 - 8:16without knowing, actually,
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8:16 - 8:19was funding the IRA.
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8:19 - 8:21But the great change came, of course,
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8:21 - 8:24with globalization and deregulation.
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8:24 - 8:27This is when arms organization were able to link up,
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8:27 - 8:29also financially, with each other.
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8:29 - 8:31But above all, they started to do
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8:31 - 8:34serious business with the world of crime.
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8:34 - 8:36And together they money-laundered
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8:36 - 8:40their dirty business through the same channel.
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8:40 - 8:43This is when we see the birth of the transnational
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8:43 - 8:46arms organization Al Qaeda.
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8:46 - 8:49This is an organization that can raise money across border.
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8:49 - 8:52But also that is able to carry out attacks
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8:52 - 8:55in more than one country.
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8:55 - 8:58Now, deregulation also brought back
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8:58 - 9:00rogue economics.
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9:00 - 9:02So what is rogue economics?
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9:02 - 9:04Rogue economics is a force which is constantly
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9:04 - 9:08lurking in the background of history.
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9:08 - 9:11It comes back at times of great transformation,
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9:11 - 9:14globalization being one of those transformations.
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9:14 - 9:17It is at this times in which
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9:17 - 9:20politics actually loses control of the economy,
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9:20 - 9:23and the economy becomes a rogue force
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9:23 - 9:25working against us.
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9:25 - 9:26It has happened before in history.
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9:26 - 9:30It has happened with the fall of the Roman Empire.
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9:30 - 9:32It has happened with Industrial Revolution.
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9:32 - 9:37And it actually happened again, with the fall of the Berlin wall.
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9:37 - 9:42Now, I calculated how big was this international
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9:42 - 9:44economic system composed by crime,
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9:44 - 9:47terror, and illegal economy,
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9:47 - 9:49before 9-11.
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9:49 - 9:54And it is a staggering 1.5 trillion dollars.
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9:54 - 9:56It is trillions, it's not billions.
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9:56 - 9:59This is about twice the GDP of the United Kingdom,
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9:59 - 10:01soon will be more,
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10:01 - 10:03considering where this country is going.
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10:03 - 10:06(Laughter)
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10:06 - 10:08Now, until 9-11,
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10:08 - 10:10the bulk of all this money
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10:10 - 10:12flew into the U.S. economy
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10:12 - 10:16because the bulk of the money was denominated in U.S. dollars
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10:16 - 10:19and the money laundering was taking place
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10:19 - 10:21inside the United States.
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10:21 - 10:24The entry point, of course, of most of this money
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10:24 - 10:26were the off-shore facilities.
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10:26 - 10:30So, this was a vital injection of cash
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10:30 - 10:33into the U.S. economy.
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10:33 - 10:38Now, when I went to look at the figures of the U.S. money supply,
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10:38 - 10:40the U.S. money supply is the amount
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10:40 - 10:43of dollars that the Federal Reserve
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10:43 - 10:45prints every year
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10:45 - 10:47in order to satisfy
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10:47 - 10:50the increase in the demand for dollars,
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10:50 - 10:52which, of course, reflects the growth
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10:52 - 10:54of the economy.
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10:54 - 10:58So, when I went to look at those figures, I noted that since the late 1960s
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10:58 - 11:02a growing number of these dollars
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11:02 - 11:04was actually leaving the United States,
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11:04 - 11:07never to come back.
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11:07 - 11:09These were money taken out
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11:09 - 11:13in suitcases or in containers, in cash of course.
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11:13 - 11:16These were money taken out by criminals and money launderers.
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11:16 - 11:19These were money taken out to fund
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11:19 - 11:21the growth of the terror,
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11:21 - 11:25illegal and criminal economy.
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11:25 - 11:29So, you see, what is the relationship?
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11:29 - 11:33The United States actually is a country
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11:33 - 11:37that is the reserve currency of the world.
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11:37 - 11:39What does it mean? That means that
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11:39 - 11:42it has a privilege that other countries do not have.
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11:42 - 11:46It can borrow against the total amount of dollars
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11:46 - 11:48in circulation in the world.
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11:48 - 11:51This privilege is called seigniorage.
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11:51 - 11:54No other country can do that.
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11:54 - 11:56All the other countries, for example the United Kingdom,
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11:56 - 12:00can borrow only against the amount of money
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12:00 - 12:04in circulation inside its own borders.
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12:04 - 12:06So, here is the implication of the relationship
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12:06 - 12:11between the worlds of crime, terror, and illegal economy, and our economy.
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12:11 - 12:14The U.S. in the 1990s
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12:14 - 12:16was borrowing against the growth
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12:16 - 12:20of the terror, illegal and criminal economy.
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12:20 - 12:25This is how close we are with this world.
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12:25 - 12:27Now, this situation changed, of course, after 9-11,
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12:27 - 12:30because George Bush launched the War on Terror.
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12:30 - 12:32Part of the War on Terror
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12:32 - 12:35was the introduction of the Patriot Act.
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12:35 - 12:37Now, many of you know that the Patriot Act
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12:37 - 12:40is a legislation that greatly reduces
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12:40 - 12:43the liberties of Americans in order to protect them
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12:43 - 12:45against terrorism.
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12:45 - 12:47But there is a section of the Patriot Act
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12:47 - 12:49which refers specifically to finance.
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12:49 - 12:53And it is, in fact, an anti-money-laundering legislation.
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12:53 - 12:55What the Patriot Act did was
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12:55 - 12:57to prohibit U.S. bank,
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12:57 - 12:59and U.S.-registered foreign banks
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12:59 - 13:03from doing any businesses with off-shore facilities.
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13:03 - 13:06It closed that door between the money laundering
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13:06 - 13:09in dollars, and the U.S. economy.
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13:09 - 13:14It also gave the U.S. monetary authorities
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13:14 - 13:17the right to monitor any dollar transaction
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13:17 - 13:21taking place anywhere in the world.
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13:21 - 13:23Now, you can imagine what was the reaction of the international
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13:23 - 13:25finance and banking.
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13:25 - 13:28All the bankers said to their clients,
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13:28 - 13:31"Get out of the dollars and go and invest somewhere else."
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13:31 - 13:34Now, the Euro was a newly born currency
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13:34 - 13:38of great opportunity for business, and, of course, for investment.
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13:38 - 13:40And this is what people did.
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13:40 - 13:42Nobody wants the U.S. monetary authority
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13:42 - 13:44to check their relationship,
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13:44 - 13:48to monitor their relationship with their clientele.
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13:48 - 13:50The same thing happened, of course,
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13:50 - 13:54in the world of crime and terror.
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13:54 - 13:59People simply moved their money-laundering activities
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13:59 - 14:02away from the United States
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14:02 - 14:05into Europe.
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14:05 - 14:07Why did this happen? This happened because
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14:07 - 14:10the Patriot Act was a unilateral legislation.
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14:10 - 14:12It was introduced only in the United States.
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14:12 - 14:15And it was introduced only for the U.S. dollars.
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14:15 - 14:17In Europe, a similar legislation
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14:17 - 14:19was not introduced.
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14:19 - 14:21So, within six months
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14:21 - 14:23Europe became the epicenter
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14:23 - 14:26of the money-laundering activities
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14:26 - 14:29of the world.
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14:29 - 14:33So, this is how incredible are the relationship
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14:33 - 14:35between the world of crime
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14:35 - 14:37and the world of terror,
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14:37 - 14:40and our own life.
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14:40 - 14:42So, why did I tell you this story?
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14:42 - 14:44I told you this story because you
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14:44 - 14:47must understand that there is a world
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14:47 - 14:51that goes well beyond the headlines of the newspapers,
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14:51 - 14:53including the personal relationship that you have
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14:53 - 14:56with friends and family.
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14:56 - 14:59You got to question everything that is told to you,
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14:59 - 15:01including what I just told you today.
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15:01 - 15:03(Laughter)
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15:03 - 15:05This is the only way for you
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15:05 - 15:08to step into the dark side, and have a look at it.
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15:08 - 15:10And believe me,
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15:10 - 15:12it's going to be scary.
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15:12 - 15:15It's going to be frightful, but it's going to enlighten you.
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15:15 - 15:18And, above all, it's not going to be boring.
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15:18 - 15:20(Laughter)
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15:20 - 15:24(Applause)
- Title:
- The intricate economics of terrorism
- Speaker:
- Loretta Napoleoni
- Description:
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Loretta Napoleoni details her rare opportunity to talk to the secretive Italian Red Brigades -- an experience that sparked a lifelong interest in terrorism. She gives a behind-the-scenes look at its complex economics, revealing a surprising connection between money laundering and the US Patriot Act.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 15:24
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