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Daniel Lind-Ramos in “Everyday Icons” - Season 11 - "Art in the Twenty-First Century" | Art21

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    ♪ upbeat percussion ♪
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    I was born here in Loíza.
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    We have a lot of invention going on.
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    The aesthetic of the masquerade.
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    related with the Fiesta de Santiago Apostol
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    related with African heritage.
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    I like to play with that.
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    A lot of energy is going on,
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    and energy not only
    with Loíza, Puerto Rico.
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    but with the Caribbean in general.
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    There is a communication
    going above the language.
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    There is something that is felt.
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    [leaves rustling in the wind]
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    [waves crashing]
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    There are many stories
    related with immigration
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    in the Caribbean.
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    Most of the objects
    that I try to pick up
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    are objects related with that story.
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    I have found a lot of shoes,
    for example,
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    a lot of objects with luggage.
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    The sea bring it.
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    ♪ uplifting ethereal music ♪
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    I love it.
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    The mangrove that I am doing
    upstairs needs a lot of green,
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    and this could also represent the forest.
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    Beautiful.
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    This is a great finding.
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    It's a curved one.
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    It is like this.
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    What does the hurricane do, you know?
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    Or the movement of the wind.
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    The thing is that if
    I have an idea based on
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    one of my experiences,
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    the material activate
    my imagination.
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    ♪ ethereal music ♪
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    I say, "Oh, I have this object
    and it's related with this
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    narrative that I'm
    trying to organize."
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    ♪♪♪
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    And I start playing with it.
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    I incorporate that object.
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    Or I have to invent
    an object to the idea,
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    putting this object
    related with this one.
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    It's a very organic
    way of organizing.
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    ♪♪♪
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    Here in Loíza, the
    community, for me,
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    is like an
    extension of my studio.
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    — Nunu!
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    Mira.
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    Have you seen any more springs?
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    — On the Suárez plot. I have to talk to —
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    — But have you seen any more
    in the street?
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    — Yes, which is why —
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    ♪♪♪
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    See that color?
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    Everything have been
    choosen to react against.
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    Here, look at this.
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    It's beautiful, isn't it?
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    Look at that.
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    ♪♪♪
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    [Daniel VO] It
    takes time, I feel it.
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    You have to be
    there all the time.
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    You have to live with the piece.
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    ♪♪♪
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    I literally sleep with a
    notebook and with a pencil there
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    so I could trap the idea.
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    It's interesting how
    sometimes you are sleeping
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    and then a solution comes.
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    And then there is a day
    when you go to the studio
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    and there is an harmony.
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    "Oh, there it is."
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    My intention with
    this approach is,
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    among other things, to remember.
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    [man VO] The first pictures
    now coming in from Puerto Rico.
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    Hurricane Maria
    slamming into the island and,
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    as you heard, one official
    saying the island is destroyed.
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    [man VO] Tonight,
    Maria's direct hit,
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    devastating Puerto Rico.
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    [Daniel VO] I remember
    listening the roof of the house.
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    I was by myself, and
    the sound of the wind...
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    [cacophonous noises], you know.
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    It was really terrible.
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    Then, I opened the door.
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    I wasn't supposed to
    do that, of course.
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    Then you see the palm trees fighting.
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    It was sublime and terrible
    at the same time.
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    It was something else.
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    And that's what I'm
    trying to do with this.
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    How could I talk
    about the terrible
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    and the sublime
    at the same time?
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    ♪ tense ambient music ♪
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    Bit by bit, I was gathering
    debris from the hurricane.
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    The tarp comes like a sea.
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    See here?
    Like a sea.
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    Water...
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    sand, represented by the burlap.
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    The rays of the storm, we
    use copper and aluminum.
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    The thunder.
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    [drum booming]
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    So music, rhythm, sound are
    related with the theme too.
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    And here, there is a figure
    that might be pointing to
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    Virgin Mary.
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    The hurricane was
    called "Maria,"
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    and Maria is the
    mother of Christ.
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    For me to cite the
    iconic representation,
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    there is a
    contradiction there:
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    Virgin Mary in the
    context of destruction.
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    ♪♪♪
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    The way that these
    houses are built,
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    they are not built in order
    to support the strength of a
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    hurricane.
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    So I'm talking about
    the problem of housing, too --
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    the people with less
    resources to build something
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    strong and properly in order
    to live in this area in the
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    Caribbean.
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    Something that I remember from
    my childhood is that plant with
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    those flowers.
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    So imagine this road without
    this -- sand and a lot of trees,
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    but the same road.
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    [dog barking]
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    [Daniel VO] The
    experience of catastrophe,
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    that's not
    exclusive of Puerto Ricans.
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    There is a universality,
    regardless where you live in
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    this world.
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    People have to invent again.
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    When you don't have electricity,
    you don't have water,
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    you have to be inventive.
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    And it's interesting because
    knowledge from the past came again.
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    I remember when I was
    a child here in Loíza,
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    everybody was doing something.
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    My grandmother
    was a sewer,
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    my uncle Louis
    was a mask maker,
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    and my other uncle
    was a cabinet maker.
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    So you could imagine the
    activities as a child,
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    working with tools
    and woods and things.
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    It was beautiful!
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    ♪ emotional music ♪
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    I like to construct
    something that have unity,
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    even though I am
    using diverse materials.
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    They are all alive, you know?
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    For me, that's language.
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    The way you arrange
    them to obtain unity,
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    there I find beauty.
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    ♪♪♪
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    [buzzing]
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    [Jorge] I'm going to put it there.
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    [Daniel] Try making a sound however you like.
    Just try!
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    [conch blows]
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    That would be nice. It's melancholic.
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    [blowing continues]
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    Seems like already the Spaniards
    were here killing Indians.
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    Like a lament, the longing of
    something that has disappeared,
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    you know?
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    Which is that land
    before Columbus arrived.
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    Use your imagination, yeah!
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    Recreate that in your mind
    and then bring it through the
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    — instrument, yeah!
    — Okay.
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    [Jorge] I'm gonna be trying to do what
    our Taino Indians used to do,
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    and that is play it
    with the sound that
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    was what they used
    to communicate.
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    [Daniel] He was my student. [laughs]
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    [Jorge] If you didn't
    learn something with Daniel...
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    -[chuckles]
    -You are not in the right place.
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    He doesn't take a "No."
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    No, invent yourself, reinvent.
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    Yeah, he pushes
    you to the limit.
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    "Okay, listen, try it."
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    ♪ rapid drumming ♪
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    [conch blows]
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    Here in Loíza we use
    costume all year long.
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    Let's get you a bigger one.
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    Mask for Victor!
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    The activity that I have
    here is to invite people
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    from my community, my
    friends and family.
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    Those neighbors dress in
    the costume like ancestors
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    that came from the past
    to be with us celebrating.
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    African ancestry is
    very important ingredient
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    of our identity here in
    Puerto Rico, of course.
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    — This is the only town in Puerto Rico
    founded by Black people.
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    But no one ever taught me about the
    African continent.
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    and I'm a person of African descent.
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    No matter how others see it,
    Spain is not my motherland.
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    My motherland is Africa.
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    Now we are going to invite our poets.
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    They will be reading poetry there,
    and if there is somebody
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    in the public that would like
    to also, you know, read poetry
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    or whatever.
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    ♪ drumming ♪
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    [Woman] Real estate is their religion.
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    The taxes, I pay those.
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    They saw us on the floor, they kicked us
    in the ribs and they took advantage
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    with investments, with influence,
    with everything they can buy with money.
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    "You can't live there, that's an Airbnb."
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    [Daniel] You have this space where
    everybody who wants
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    could come and say something
    and communicate.
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    ♪ uplifting music ♪
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    [Woman] As a community and people
    passing on traditions and histories
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    we have the responsibility to
    continue with this, to survive.
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    [Man] We went to grade school together.
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    We're like family on this long journey
    through a good life.
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    ♪♪♪
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    My intention was to find a language.
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    find a process, find materials
    that established the link
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    between our collective experience
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    and somehow bring something
    different but authentic.
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    ♪♪♪
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    We have that knowledge from the past.
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    We want to keep it and
    bring it to other generation.
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    ♪♪♪
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    ♪ ethereal ambient music ♪
Title:
Daniel Lind-Ramos in “Everyday Icons” - Season 11 - "Art in the Twenty-First Century" | Art21
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